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 2014-02-13 1:50 PM in reply to: TTom |
New user  37  San Rafael, California |  Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official ThreadI am using the BT training log, just because it does a good job breaking down the training volume and is pretty adaptive to my needs. I also joined a mentor group just to ask newbie questions, as this is my first IM that I am attempting. I live about 50 miles away from the race, so I am planning on driving up the day of the expo and the day of the race. Fortunately, my friends and family understand that I won't have a whole lot of time for them that weekend. I do plan on riding/running the course in the next few months to become acclimated to the course. |
| 2014-02-13 3:07 PM in reply to: TTom |
| 12 Plaistow, New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread I'm planning to use the BT log for all of my training. I'm using one of the BT IM training plans as a framework and following it as much as possible. I use Strava just for fun and to look at pace and cadence and HR details, but the BT log is a much better big-picture view of my weeks and my breakdown of hours. And, as I think someone said, it's good to look back and see what I was doing, both later in the training and also after the race. |
| 2014-02-13 5:56 PM in reply to: Happyinmarin |
Member 133 | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Originally posted by Happyinmarin I am using the BT training log, just because it does a good job breaking down the training volume and is pretty adaptive to my needs. I also joined a mentor group just to ask newbie questions, as this is my first IM that I am attempting. I live about 50 miles away from the race, so I am planning on driving up the day of the expo and the day of the race. Fortunately, my friends and family understand that I won't have a whole lot of time for them that weekend. I do plan on riding/running the course in the next few months to become acclimated to the course. Lucky you! How awesome to be able to ride the course. I haven't used BT log, but I just starting and put everyone in this thread as a friend. Between this log and Strava, we will be able to encourage each other. Rita |
| 2014-02-13 10:51 PM in reply to: ritakandel |
Expert 1276 Salem | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread If you can't ride it you can view the whole Bike Course on YouTube - 4 different parts to the whole race. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-7wQb2_5nM It is from View the Race. If the link doesn't work just google Vineman Bike Course Video. You might already know about this, but just in case. |
| 2014-02-14 11:02 AM in reply to: TriGuyBri |
Member 133 | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Originally posted by TriGuyBri If you can't ride it you can view the whole Bike Course on YouTube - 4 different parts to the whole race. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-7wQb2_5nM It is from View the Race. If the link doesn't work just google Vineman Bike Course Video. You might already know about this, but just in case. Thanks for the video link Brian. It has nice narration too. It was great to get some land marks for chaulk hill and just to have an idea what the course is like overall. Awesome! |
| 2014-02-14 2:56 PM in reply to: TTom |
| 34 | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread 1. Kate 2. 2 years 3. first iron distance 4. Time?? Hoping to make it through training without injuries. And ride the bike course without a crash. I have been lurking for awhile to pick up anything I can about the course, but so excited about the race I thought I would join! |
| 2014-02-14 4:07 PM in reply to: khaddon |
Regular 673 SF Bay area | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Hey Kate, welcome to the thread! It's going to be great to hear how things progress as the months fly by! Dan, I'm down in Fremont and plan to ride the course, or parts of it, 3+ times during training. I'll try to remember to let you know when I'll be doing that to see if you'd like to join in the fun. It'll likely be on Thursdays to avoid all the wine-tasting-then-driving crowd that frequents the roadways up there. Anyone else is, of course, also welcome if they are willing to make the trip :-) Brian, I've got a question for you. Are there changing tents in transition for the Vineman? I haven't seen any mention of them but was planning to slip into fully padded bike shorts for the ride and a pair of running shorts for the run. If there is not a changing tent, I'll make sure to practice more in the tri shorts. Looks like a lot of us will be using BT for logging our training, I did decide to go with the training program available from Vineman (Dave LaTourette) as I had great results with the 70.3 plan last year. It is a shorter plan, only 16 weeks, so I've put together my own pre-plan base training. It is going well and I am, for the first time ever, training with a partner - boy does that make long rides/runs go faster. She's been doing HMs during the winter so is in great running shape and is pulling me into better condition. Thus far I've been focusing on low heart rate/aerobic base runs I've had success with in the past, but am loving the more intense shorter workouts I'm getting now. This week - 10.7 hours (5.3, 3.3, 2.1 S/B/R). Hard to believe that is only half the volume of peak week!!!
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| 2014-02-15 5:18 PM in reply to: TTom |
Expert 1276 Salem | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Tom, There are changing tents. At T1 the tent is located at the exit to the swim. To be honest I used the tent but if I did it again I would stay at my bike and wrap some kind of towel or changing robe to get my bike shorts on. I used bib bike shorts. It was just as dirty in the changing tent as it was by the bike. There was a very tiny small piece of carpet in the tent. Bring an old towel to use on the ground so you can step on to get your shorts on, socks and shoes then go for the rest. I think I had to run back 10 rows to get to the tent. Some people could have run 60-70 YDS or so to get to the tent in T1. T2 the tents are located by the run out towards the far end. It gets hot and muggy in the tent. I used the Changing tent in T2 as well but it was on grass so much cleaner. I changed into Tri shorts for the run and a running shirt. I was able to set up my T2 right across from the Changing tent area as this was the setup for men 50-54. If you can help it I would say do not use the tents. Find a way to not have to use the T1 Tent. T2 was ok. I'd try to find some kind of changing robe like they use for changing after surfing or make your own. |
| 2014-02-15 9:23 PM in reply to: TriGuyBri |
Expert 1276 Salem | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread I knew I had a picture of the T2 Changing Tents. You can see the run exit off to the left of the picture. I think I was 4 rows for the end of T2. (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (168KB - 5 downloads) |
| 2014-02-15 9:26 PM in reply to: TriGuyBri |
Expert 1276 Salem | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread I can post more pictures of the venues T1 the day before the event, swim area, T2 Area. bike in/ bike out and run out. If you want them for perspective. |
| 2014-02-17 5:16 PM in reply to: TriGuyBri |
Member 241 | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Originally posted by TriGuyBri I can post more pictures of the venues T1 the day before the event, swim area, T2 Area. bike in/ bike out and run out. If you want them for perspective. That would be awesome if you could post more pictures Brian. |
| 2014-02-17 9:42 PM in reply to: 0 |
Expert 1276 Salem | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread |
| 2014-02-19 12:29 AM in reply to: 0 |
Expert 1276 Salem | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Here are some pics. These are at Johnson Beach. Swim venue and T1. T1, Russian River looking up the river from T1 and the Start, Swim start, above the small Dam, hill you have to come up leaving T1, Swim Exit under the banner. Edited by TriGuyBri 2014-02-19 12:35 AM (image.jpg) (image.jpg) (image.jpg) (image.jpg) (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (165KB - 5 downloads) image.jpg (168KB - 3 downloads) image.jpg (18KB - 4 downloads) image.jpg (280KB - 3 downloads) image.jpg (26KB - 4 downloads) |
| 2014-02-19 12:39 AM in reply to: 0 |
Expert 1276 Salem | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread T2 Windsor High School. Run in for laps 1 and 2, Start for Run out, Bike In, T2 going towards Run out, T2 looking toward the expo. Edited by TriGuyBri 2014-02-19 12:46 AM (image.jpg) (image.jpg) (image.jpg) (image.jpg) (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (25KB - 5 downloads) image.jpg (220KB - 4 downloads) image.jpg (196KB - 4 downloads) image.jpg (161KB - 4 downloads) image.jpg (175KB - 7 downloads) |
| 2014-02-20 12:21 AM in reply to: 0 |
Regular 673 SF Bay area | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Thanks Brian! I remember the run in off the bike in the 70.3 as being really long. Was it also long in the full? I didn't really mind as it served as a sort of easy warmup for the run. So last Saturday night I went to a friend's 55th birthday party which was a bowling party. I like bowling so thought this would be a lot of fun. Unfortunately the approach to the lane was sticky With the result that I managed to tweak my hips/gluteus somehow. It's been a frustrating few days as it heals, but my training partner rightly reminded me that we are still just base building so it is not a total loss. I'm going to try and look at it as a stepback training week designed for recovery. Bummer though as it really felt like things were coming together on the bike and run. Anyone have any mental tricks to get through these kinds of setbacks? Edited by TTom 2014-02-20 12:28 AM |
| 2014-02-20 9:59 AM in reply to: TTom |
| 34 | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Tom - Sounds like something I would do, frustrating. Before every marathon I have run, I hurt something, have to take a few days off. I think part of endurance trainging is learning how to manage the minor injuries and not letting them get worse. I tell myself if it hurts to walk, it will hurt to run, take 3-7 days off. I will usually try something nonimpact to maintain fitness. Better to let it heal than keep training and making it worse. You will be surprised how little you lose if you can keep doing something. Hang in there, don't push it, you have plenty of time. |
| 2014-02-20 10:14 AM in reply to: khaddon |
Member 241 | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Originally posted by khaddon Tom - Sounds like something I would do, frustrating. Before every marathon I have run, I hurt something, have to take a few days off. I think part of endurance trainging is learning how to manage the minor injuries and not letting them get worse. I tell myself if it hurts to walk, it will hurt to run, take 3-7 days off. I will usually try something nonimpact to maintain fitness. Better to let it heal than keep training and making it worse. You will be surprised how little you lose if you can keep doing something. Hang in there, don't push it, you have plenty of time. Tom, in the Base building phase I usually do 3 weeks high volume and then 1 week low volume (rest week). Maybe take this week as a rest week and tell yourself that it is simply in line with your training. Take the rare opportunity to sleep more which your body will thank you for. I just read an article about how some of the most impressive performances (i.e. Craig Alexander in Kona and Sebastian Kienle in 70.3 Worlds) have come after periods of forced rest (they were significantly injured or sick early in their season). This may actually be just what you needed! |
| 2014-02-20 10:40 PM in reply to: TTom |
Regular 140 Roseville, CA | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Originally posted by TTom Thanks Brian! I remember the run in off the bike in the 70.3 as being really long. Was it also long in the full? I didn't really mind as it served as a sort of easy warmup for the run. So last Saturday night I went to a friend's 55th birthday party which was a bowling party. I like bowling so thought this would be a lot of fun. Unfortunately the approach to the lane was sticky With the result that I managed to tweak my hips/gluteus somehow. It's been a frustrating few days as it heals, but my training partner rightly reminded me that we are still just base building so it is not a total loss. I'm going to try and look at it as a stepback training week designed for recovery. Bummer though as it really felt like things were coming together on the bike and run. Anyone have any mental tricks to get through these kinds of setbacks? I knpw the feeling as I sit here reading this with a heating pad on my back. I tweaked something this past weekend riding motocross. That sport and triathlon training do not necessarily go hand in hand  I will be out htis whole week - hopefully this weekend I can get on the bike. |
| 2014-02-20 11:30 PM in reply to: TTom |
Expert 1276 Salem | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread The bike into T2 is quite long and also mostly on concrete. I walked in. Of course my right outside foot was hurting pretty bad by the time I got off the bike. Once you get to T2 it is all grass until you head out on the run. |
| 2014-02-21 1:08 AM in reply to: TriGuyBri |
Regular 673 SF Bay area | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I've got my stretches and strengthening exercises underway and am seeing improvement. Swam Tuesday but did only pull drills and worked on weak side breathing with paddles and buoy as I wanted to give the lower body some rest. Today though did 500 in drills then 15x100 on 2:00 as my main set averaging 1:44/100 there so getting back on track. I recently had my 910 replaced as the elevation readings were really wacky, and I'm finding this new unit is a bit more finicky on the lap button. Going to have to figure that one out as I had a few laps today that showed up as 2:00 which means the button didn't work when I pushed it to start the interval. Like they say if it ain't one thing, it's another! Next challenge - easing back into the bike and run. |
| 2014-02-27 7:29 PM in reply to: TTom |
Member 96 | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Your first name? Joe How long have you been doing triathlons (of any distance)? 4 years What number of "140.6" or "Iron-Distance" race is this for you? This will be #2. At registration time, what's your finish goal? I would like to go under 14 hours Any words of wisdom about this race specifically or this distance in general? I have done Vineman 70.3 and it was an awesome experience. Great course...we will have a great time! I am in sacramento if anyone in the area wants to ride some time. |
| 2014-02-27 8:46 PM in reply to: Joetrujillo1978 |
Member 241 | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Welcome to the thread Joe. Hope you are enjoying all the rain you've been getting. Hopefully it keeps us from walking the swim in July! |
| 2014-02-28 1:18 AM in reply to: Joetrujillo1978 |
Regular 673 SF Bay area | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Hey Joe, welcome to the group! Looks like Brian is the closest to you (Roseville) so you guys may be able to pretty easily hook up for a ride. Some of us will be riding all or parts of the race course during training so if scheduling permits you may want to join in on that since it is just a couple of hours from you. |
| 2014-02-28 1:38 PM in reply to: TTom |
Member 96 | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Tom, I would love to join. Keep me informed. |
| 2014-03-25 9:45 AM in reply to: Joetrujillo1978 |
Member 133 | Subject: RE: Full Vineman 2014 Triathlon : Official Thread Not a lot of activity on the forum... How is everyone's training going? |
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