Election 2016 (Page 4)

agreed.    I guess your bandwagon groweth.  

Tuwood - for a person as well spoken (I guess written, as we have never spoken) as yourself, how do you overlook the 4th grade vocabulary? (4th grade is generous).   Is he really that limited or does he design his speeches for the lowest common denominator, which is pretty demeaning to the American people, IMO.

And I guess Hillary speaking with a thick southern accent when in the south is not demeaning.  Or Obama speaking at a black college graduation and sounding like he is from the hood is not demeaning.  I'd call it knowing your audience.

He did a great job of explaining the problems.  I know I've said it before, but no matter what we think of Sanders and Trump they did a great job of exposing this mess.  I truly had no idea it was so broken prior to this year.

**edit**  Oh, and 3% participation at an orgy?   hahahahahaha

Thanks for the compliment, but writing has always been a struggle for me.  I was one of those kids that hated english classes and barely passed them while taking all of the advanced math and science classes and acing them.  I still remember when my english comp professor in college handed me my first paper back telling me it was the worst thing he'd ever read and looks like I had my dog write it.  I was really upset that he thought my dog was that dumb.   

Anyways, I've seen a few articles trying to insinuate that Trump was dumb because he spoke at a lower grade level.  There was even a university that did an extensive study on all the candidates earlier this year which was kind of entertaining.

It's really nothing more than a cheap attempt to make people think he's dumb, but it's a bit of a tough sell when you're talking about somebody who built and runs a multi-billion dollar enterprise in my opinion.

I've been to several political events over the years and typically the speaker just reads a speech or drones on about something half incoherent.  Trump is different, he really connects with the audience in a way I haven't seen before.  He conveys big problems in simple ways that people can understand and he repeats a lot of the same things over and over to make them resonate with the voters.

The Democrats have had a fair amount of success marginalizing candidates in the past by labeling them as being dumb.  Often times they use speaking ability as the rationale because it's most apparent to people.  George W. Bush was a great example of that.  He wasn't an intellectually dumb guy at all, but he was not a very good speaker so he "sounded dumb" and it stuck in many ways.

On a side note the study that had Trump at 4th grade put Hillary at 6th grade (i believe) and Bernie at 9th or 10th grade.  So if we're going by grade school I am not comfortable with a 4th grader or a 6th grader running the country and I would have to go with Bernie. lol

For anyone looking for an alternative to Trump or Clinton - Johnson/Weld

"Feel the Johnson"

I've never disliked Palin, but you did do a good job of describing her.   I get a little defensive when people call her "dumb" because I don't feel it's accurate, but I do tend to agree with you that she's not very intellectually curious and seems to just parrot the right wing agenda with her cute accent.   

Do we get to label him as offensive and sexist because of the campaign slogan?  hehe  (btw, I love it)

One of my FB friends who is probably the most liberal of them all just posted this today.  He's a big Bernie supporter and I'm pretty sure the lady in the video is as well, but she did a really good job of making the case of why/how Trump will beat Hillary.  Her motive is pretty obvious that Bernie needs to win the nomination for the DNC to have a chance.  (warning, some NSFW language)

https://www.facebook.com/iamaliceanil/videos/1282066555154730/

Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn

Originally posted by tuwood

One of my FB friends who is probably the most liberal of them all just posted this today.  He's a big Bernie supporter and I'm pretty sure the lady in the video is as well, but she did a really good job of making the case of why/how Trump will beat Hillary.  Her motive is pretty obvious that Bernie needs to win the nomination for the DNC to have a chance.  (warning, some NSFW language)

https://www.facebook.com/iamaliceanil/videos/1282066555154730/

 

(I thought you were the most liberal of your friends? ) I've heard some of those arguments before, and there's no doubt that Hillary has shown before that she fades late in the race. At this exact moment, I'm not worried about the polls that show Trump gaining ground because it's not really apples to apples. When Trump hadn't yet cemented the nomination and neither had Hillary, she was leading. Now he's the presumptive nominee and she's still battling on two fronts. Once Sanders concedes, whether it's at the convention or before, and assuming (safely, I think) that he will throw his endorsement behind her and encourage his supporters to do likewise, I suspect the polling will shift back to where she's leading Trump. I don't think the email thing is going to stick, even with the new information and the rebuke from the JD. I think, not unlike Benghazi, that everyone who has an opinion on the subject has already formed it. I doubt anyone is going to change their decision about voting for her-- for or against-- based on this or any other new revelations.

I do agree that polls now will continue to shift.  It's fun to watch the momentum, but I'm sure it will go back a forth a few times before we're done.

The email thing could stick if all the people blocking it get out of the way, but in effect I tend to agree that it won't stick because there's just not enough time.  Even if everything goes absolutely worse case on it we'll be in the middle of next year before it ever comes out and Hillary would just pardon herself by then.  Lol

I just read a long thread about his endorsement on a conservative site last night and it was pretty entertaining.  Most people were along the lines of Trump should just ignore him.  lol
That being said, I agree it was pretty weak endorsement but I do at least give him credit for not pouting in the corner like several of the other candidates are.   

I mean what else is he going to do with his time between now and July?

i have yet to understand the polls.  When I think they're way off they're dead on and when I think they're dead on they're way off.

I honestly think Bernie's hanging out for the FBI primary.  There's obviously no possible way for him to win and there's no way he can sway enough super delegates either, so the only logical explanation is that he's hanging on "just in case" she gets whacked.

In reality I think me being appointed as Trumps VP is likely a higher probability than Hillary getting indicted prior to the election.  lol

I'm not familiar with the methodology of the "Big Data" poll so it's just another data point of many, but I did find the article interesting:

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/opinion/2016/06/07/opinion-big-data-reports-latino-support-for-trump-on-rise-at-37/

The thing I found most interesting was how Trump and Clinton are virtually identical in their support/dislike.  That's a really big deal because Hispanics overwhelmingly vote Democrat in past elections.  I think Romney got something like 25% of the Hispanic vote in 2012.