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 2013-01-16 8:08 AM in reply to: #4542521 |
Expert  1121  |  Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED90 min Z1 trainer ride this morning. And shoveling 4 inches of very heavy wet snow. Boooooo |
| 2013-01-16 8:14 AM in reply to: #4580708 |
Pro 4723   CyFair | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED rizer22 - 2013-01-16 8:08 AM 90 min Z1 trainer ride this morning. And shoveling 4 inches of very heavy wet snow. Boooooo
And this is why snow if fun to visit and not live in. |
| 2013-01-16 8:52 AM in reply to: #4580708 |
Veteran 580 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED rizer22 - 2013-01-16 8:08 AM 90 min Z1 trainer ride this morning. And shoveling 4 inches of very heavy wet snow. Boooooo Have you hit the trails yet? I plan on going Sunday. |
| 2013-01-16 9:03 AM in reply to: #4542521 |
Extreme Veteran 826 Bristow | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED 1 hr zr ride with intervals. Very fatigued this morning. Hopefully I can get to bed early tonight and get a good nights rest. |
| 2013-01-16 9:19 AM in reply to: #4580785 |
Expert 1121 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED ccmpsyd - 2013-01-16 9:52 AM Nope. I haven't been completely released yet. ZR/Z1 trainer rides are all I am allowed to do right now. It's killing me, but 2013 is about being smart. I have no other choice. Spring XC MTB Race series starts end of March. Ill be ready to ride those races but won't be competing much early on rizer22 - 2013-01-16 8:08 AM 90 min Z1 trainer ride this morning. And shoveling 4 inches of very heavy wet snow. Boooooo Have you hit the trails yet? I plan on going Sunday. Edited by rizer22 2013-01-16 9:20 AM |
| 2013-01-16 9:30 AM in reply to: #4542521 |
Expert 1481 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED Hour Z1 with intervals only into Z2 as part of my recovery week and then a 5 mile run on the dreadmill in Z1. Core work for 20 minutes. Only an inch of snow at my house and I think most of it will melt. I only live a mile from the coast and 20 minutes from the Cape so it usually turns to rain at my house much sooner than inland or north. |
| 2013-01-16 9:35 AM in reply to: #4580002 |
Pro 4672 Nutmeg State | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED luv2bhealthy - 2013-01-15 5:14 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-01-15 5:21 AM luv2bhealthy - 2013-01-14 10:49 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-01-14 6:17 PMAs sort of a general response -- I think we're all capable of a lot more than we may initially thinking. By Training smart and making good decisions, I think almost everyone is capable of a HIM. What exactly do you mean by training smart and making goods decisions?Train in such a way to address your limiters and maintain your strengths (this is different for every person). We tend to like to train out strengths because we like what we're good at. Also its important to understand how things work together. Someone who runs (relatively) poorly off of the bike may think they should run more but if you take a closer look its often that they don't have enough bike endurance or poorly execute the bike, which leads to a poor run. Like most things, its tough to make objective decisions about yourself, which can lead to (sometimes) purposeless training. If all the training you do has a purpose, you don't have to expend really large amounts of time to have a solid finish (now working to get to the top of your AG at a large race is a different story). OK, I don't have any qualms where my weakness lies - the bike. Do I poorly execute the bike? I don't know because I don't know what that means. I go out and ride. I actually like going up hills; I am more cautious going down because I don't want to crash (I know, but I'd rather lose a little time then be out for injuries). Without seeing your results / current training I would venture to guess its bike endurance or stregnth endurance issue. If you want to post your results from last year, I'll take a closer look. |
| 2013-01-16 10:26 AM in reply to: #4542521 |
Extreme Veteran 3020 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED What's a strength endurance issue? |
| 2013-01-16 12:55 PM in reply to: #4580992 |
Regular 211 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED Did 2100m in masters this morning, and wasn't nearly as tired as I was Monday. Won't say I'm definitely back yet, but today was a good sign. |
| 2013-01-16 1:09 PM in reply to: #4580992 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED jarvy01 - 2013-01-16 10:26 AM What's a strength endurance issue? So an endurance issue is one where you can't perform a certain muscular action over a prolonged period of time. Strength endurance is the ability to exert a certain amount of force over a prolonged period of time. So one might be able to pull 350 watts for a few minutes on a bike. Well in the grand scheme of things they're strong by definition but what is the point? You need to address the maximum amount of force they can sustain over 56 miles (for a half). |
| 2013-01-16 2:40 PM in reply to: #4542521 |
Extreme Veteran 3020 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED Thank you for explaining that, Scott! |
| 2013-01-16 3:09 PM in reply to: #4581320 |
Extreme Veteran 826 Bristow | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED uhcoog - 2013-01-16 2:09 PM jarvy01 - 2013-01-16 10:26 AM What's a strength endurance issue? So an endurance issue is one where you can't perform a certain muscular action over a prolonged period of time. Strength endurance is the ability to exert a certain amount of force over a prolonged period of time. So one might be able to pull 350 watts for a few minutes on a bike. Well in the grand scheme of things they're strong by definition but what is the point? You need to address the maximum amount of force they can sustain over 56 miles (for a half). So say for the bike portion, since you bring it up, what type of exercises help with strength endurance? Intervals and te such? |
| 2013-01-16 4:05 PM in reply to: #4580882 |
Extreme Veteran 418 Texas | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED kaburns1214 - 2013-01-16 9:35 AM luv2bhealthy - 2013-01-15 5:14 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-01-15 5:21 AM luv2bhealthy - 2013-01-14 10:49 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-01-14 6:17 PMAs sort of a general response -- I think we're all capable of a lot more than we may initially thinking. By Training smart and making good decisions, I think almost everyone is capable of a HIM. What exactly do you mean by training smart and making goods decisions?Train in such a way to address your limiters and maintain your strengths (this is different for every person). We tend to like to train out strengths because we like what we're good at. Also its important to understand how things work together. Someone who runs (relatively) poorly off of the bike may think they should run more but if you take a closer look its often that they don't have enough bike endurance or poorly execute the bike, which leads to a poor run. Like most things, its tough to make objective decisions about yourself, which can lead to (sometimes) purposeless training. If all the training you do has a purpose, you don't have to expend really large amounts of time to have a solid finish (now working to get to the top of your AG at a large race is a different story). OK, I don't have any qualms where my weakness lies - the bike. Do I poorly execute the bike? I don't know because I don't know what that means. I go out and ride. I actually like going up hills; I am more cautious going down because I don't want to crash (I know, but I'd rather lose a little time then be out for injuries). Without seeing your results / current training I would venture to guess its bike endurance or stregnth endurance issue. If you want to post your results from last year, I'll take a closer look. Haha! Well, my one big problem was riding a hybrid the entire season so I actually developed bike endurance, I just wasn't very fast. Although, there were some tri participants using mountain bikes and seemed to do ok. My races are out there but in draft form. I'll publish so you can see them. Most women can ride 17 mph and I only average 12-13 mph so maybe the new bike will help. I just need more time in the saddle... I just wonder what I could do different though. I just go ride, but is there something specific I SHOULD be doing? |
| 2013-01-16 4:49 PM in reply to: #4581516 |
Pro 4672 Nutmeg State | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED kidtri33 - 2013-01-16 4:09 PM uhcoog - 2013-01-16 2:09 PM jarvy01 - 2013-01-16 10:26 AM What's a strength endurance issue? So an endurance issue is one where you can't perform a certain muscular action over a prolonged period of time. Strength endurance is the ability to exert a certain amount of force over a prolonged period of time. So one might be able to pull 350 watts for a few minutes on a bike. Well in the grand scheme of things they're strong by definition but what is the point? You need to address the maximum amount of force they can sustain over 56 miles (for a half). So say for the bike portion, since you bring it up, what type of exercises help with strength endurance? Intervals and te such? Hills and low cadence work. |
| 2013-01-16 4:52 PM in reply to: #4581617 |
Pro 4672 Nutmeg State | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED luv2bhealthy - 2013-01-16 5:05 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-01-16 9:35 AM luv2bhealthy - 2013-01-15 5:14 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-01-15 5:21 AM luv2bhealthy - 2013-01-14 10:49 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-01-14 6:17 PMAs sort of a general response -- I think we're all capable of a lot more than we may initially thinking. By Training smart and making good decisions, I think almost everyone is capable of a HIM. What exactly do you mean by training smart and making goods decisions?Train in such a way to address your limiters and maintain your strengths (this is different for every person). We tend to like to train out strengths because we like what we're good at. Also its important to understand how things work together. Someone who runs (relatively) poorly off of the bike may think they should run more but if you take a closer look its often that they don't have enough bike endurance or poorly execute the bike, which leads to a poor run. Like most things, its tough to make objective decisions about yourself, which can lead to (sometimes) purposeless training. If all the training you do has a purpose, you don't have to expend really large amounts of time to have a solid finish (now working to get to the top of your AG at a large race is a different story). OK, I don't have any qualms where my weakness lies - the bike. Do I poorly execute the bike? I don't know because I don't know what that means. I go out and ride. I actually like going up hills; I am more cautious going down because I don't want to crash (I know, but I'd rather lose a little time then be out for injuries). Without seeing your results / current training I would venture to guess its bike endurance or stregnth endurance issue. If you want to post your results from last year, I'll take a closer look. Haha! Well, my one big problem was riding a hybrid the entire season so I actually developed bike endurance, I just wasn't very fast. Although, there were some tri participants using mountain bikes and seemed to do ok. My races are out there but in draft form. I'll publish so you can see them. Most women can ride 17 mph and I only average 12-13 mph so maybe the new bike will help. I just need more time in the saddle... I just wonder what I could do different though. I just go ride, but is there something specific I SHOULD be doing? The issue is that there is no one thing everyone should be doing. Everyone is different. Genreally you want to have an athlete doing a lot of aerobic riding and then add in bike specific stregnth work (hills, low cadence work), speed work (intervals), tempo work, etc. to address the athelte's specific limiters. In order to figure out what's going to work best for you, you need to do a little testing, look at the data and plan accordingly. As a general rule, the more you ride, the faster you will bike (and run). I'm believer that you can't really over train the bike. |
| 2013-01-16 5:18 PM in reply to: #4581675 |
Extreme Veteran 418 Texas | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED kaburns1214 - 2013-01-16 4:52 PM luv2bhealthy - 2013-01-16 5:05 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-01-16 9:35 AM luv2bhealthy - 2013-01-15 5:14 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-01-15 5:21 AM luv2bhealthy - 2013-01-14 10:49 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-01-14 6:17 PMAs sort of a general response -- I think we're all capable of a lot more than we may initially thinking. By Training smart and making good decisions, I think almost everyone is capable of a HIM. What exactly do you mean by training smart and making goods decisions?Train in such a way to address your limiters and maintain your strengths (this is different for every person). We tend to like to train out strengths because we like what we're good at. Also its important to understand how things work together. Someone who runs (relatively) poorly off of the bike may think they should run more but if you take a closer look its often that they don't have enough bike endurance or poorly execute the bike, which leads to a poor run. Like most things, its tough to make objective decisions about yourself, which can lead to (sometimes) purposeless training. If all the training you do has a purpose, you don't have to expend really large amounts of time to have a solid finish (now working to get to the top of your AG at a large race is a different story). OK, I don't have any qualms where my weakness lies - the bike. Do I poorly execute the bike? I don't know because I don't know what that means. I go out and ride. I actually like going up hills; I am more cautious going down because I don't want to crash (I know, but I'd rather lose a little time then be out for injuries). Without seeing your results / current training I would venture to guess its bike endurance or stregnth endurance issue. If you want to post your results from last year, I'll take a closer look. Haha! Well, my one big problem was riding a hybrid the entire season so I actually developed bike endurance, I just wasn't very fast. Although, there were some tri participants using mountain bikes and seemed to do ok. My races are out there but in draft form. I'll publish so you can see them. Most women can ride 17 mph and I only average 12-13 mph so maybe the new bike will help. I just need more time in the saddle... I just wonder what I could do different though. I just go ride, but is there something specific I SHOULD be doing? The issue is that there is no one thing everyone should be doing. Everyone is different. Genreally you want to have an athlete doing a lot of aerobic riding and then add in bike specific stregnth work (hills, low cadence work), speed work (intervals), tempo work, etc. to address the athelte's specific limiters. In order to figure out what's going to work best for you, you need to do a little testing, look at the data and plan accordingly. As a general rule, the more you ride, the faster you will bike (and run). I'm believer that you can't really over train the bike. So, realistically 3-5 days a week on the bike would be good? And what exactly is low cadence work. Hills, no problem. Is speed work best accomplished on a trainer or can I do on the road? How about tempo work? OK, sorry, I really am bike illiterate! |
| 2013-01-16 5:21 PM in reply to: #4581675 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED kaburns1214 - 2013-01-16 4:52 PM luv2bhealthy - 2013-01-16 5:05 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-01-16 9:35 AM luv2bhealthy - 2013-01-15 5:14 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-01-15 5:21 AM luv2bhealthy - 2013-01-14 10:49 PM kaburns1214 - 2013-01-14 6:17 PMAs sort of a general response -- I think we're all capable of a lot more than we may initially thinking. By Training smart and making good decisions, I think almost everyone is capable of a HIM. What exactly do you mean by training smart and making goods decisions?Train in such a way to address your limiters and maintain your strengths (this is different for every person). We tend to like to train out strengths because we like what we're good at. Also its important to understand how things work together. Someone who runs (relatively) poorly off of the bike may think they should run more but if you take a closer look its often that they don't have enough bike endurance or poorly execute the bike, which leads to a poor run. Like most things, its tough to make objective decisions about yourself, which can lead to (sometimes) purposeless training. If all the training you do has a purpose, you don't have to expend really large amounts of time to have a solid finish (now working to get to the top of your AG at a large race is a different story). OK, I don't have any qualms where my weakness lies - the bike. Do I poorly execute the bike? I don't know because I don't know what that means. I go out and ride. I actually like going up hills; I am more cautious going down because I don't want to crash (I know, but I'd rather lose a little time then be out for injuries). Without seeing your results / current training I would venture to guess its bike endurance or stregnth endurance issue. If you want to post your results from last year, I'll take a closer look. Haha! Well, my one big problem was riding a hybrid the entire season so I actually developed bike endurance, I just wasn't very fast. Although, there were some tri participants using mountain bikes and seemed to do ok. My races are out there but in draft form. I'll publish so you can see them. Most women can ride 17 mph and I only average 12-13 mph so maybe the new bike will help. I just need more time in the saddle... I just wonder what I could do different though. I just go ride, but is there something specific I SHOULD be doing? The issue is that there is no one thing everyone should be doing. Everyone is different. Genreally you want to have an athlete doing a lot of aerobic riding and then add in bike specific stregnth work (hills, low cadence work), speed work (intervals), tempo work, etc. to address the athelte's specific limiters. In order to figure out what's going to work best for you, you need to do a little testing, look at the data and plan accordingly. As a general rule, the more you ride, the faster you will bike (and run). I'm believer that you can't really over train the bike.
Herein lies the reason why I say BT or Fink or whoever's plans will get you to complete a tri and not necessarily compete (or get the most out of your abilities). They don't address YOUR specific deficiencies. |
| 2013-01-16 7:09 PM in reply to: #4542521 |
Expert 1121 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED And that's the reason Sonic Endurance Rocks!!!!Scott, just noticed you have a level 3 Cycling license. Can you tell us about that? |
| 2013-01-16 7:16 PM in reply to: #4542521 |
Expert 1121 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED Kelly and Scott, how much for one of the Sonic black head sweats hats? I want one. |
| 2013-01-16 8:06 PM in reply to: #4581817 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED rizer22 - 2013-01-16 7:09 PM And that's the reason Sonic Endurance Rocks!!!!Scott, just noticed you have a level 3 Cycling license. Can you tell us about that?
Honestly I did it to boost my credentials for getting into the USAT Coaching clinics. There was some interesting science on hydration and A TON of info on para cycling that while not all together applicable was interesting. Shockingly the doping section left a lot to be desired. LOL.
Oh and I figured out I know NOTHING about track cycling. |
| 2013-01-16 9:44 PM in reply to: #4542521 |
Regular 211 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED Sigh. I need advice. A good friend told me today that he's getting married on this upcoming September 7, Saturday, the day before the Nations Tri - one of my planned "A" races. The wedding will be more or less local, though about 2 hours drive away. I dont know what time that day the wedding will be. I'm ok with going to the wedding and not drinking and even sneaking out of the reception early, but with the travel time to and from, I'm worried about having enough time to do all my race prep and get enough sleep, even then. Bike racking lasts from 11 am to 8 pm on Saturday, the day before the race. I have already paid the $190 entry fee, and their website says it is non- refundable and non-transferable, on pain of losing my USATri license. Some of you more experienced types must have had a serious conflict with an important race arise like this before. How did you handle it? I have to say that "non-refundable and non-transferable" is a real when the entry fee is almost 200 bucks and real life happens. Any thoughts? |
| 2013-01-16 11:02 PM in reply to: #4582002 |
Extreme Veteran 418 Texas | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED At that cost, I'd have to race, but I would want to fit in my friends wedding, too, so I would do both. Could you do some race prep the day before? I couldn't just dump $190. |
| 2013-01-17 4:59 AM in reply to: #4542521 |
Veteran 580 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED If he were really that good of a friend, he wouldn't have chosen to get married on the day of your race. Kidding of course. For me, it would all depend on the friend and the logistics of the race, how hard I had been working for it etc. |
| 2013-01-17 6:33 AM in reply to: #4542521 |
Master 2151 Johns Creek, Georgia | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED I would somehow figure out how to do both. Assuming he's a good friend, you don't want to miss his special day (and regret it later), but I wouldn't just toss away $190 either. Do you know anyone racing that could help you get set up the day before? If you figure out how to do both, you may be tired racing, but I think you'll be happy you still attended your friends wedding. |
| 2013-01-17 6:37 AM in reply to: #4582113 |
Extreme Veteran 3020 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2013 (Year 3!) - CLOSED ccmpsyd - 2013-01-17 5:59 AM If he were really that good of a friend, he wouldn't have chosen to get married on the day of your race. Kidding of course. For me, it would all depend on the friend and the logistics of the race, how hard I had been working for it etc. x2. If it were one of my best girlfriends, then I'd ditch the race. For an acquaintance I'd probably skip the wedding. You may be able to make it all work anyway. The wedding may take away some pre-race nerves and give you something else to focus on. Look at when packet pick-up is as well. Some races are day before only, but others let you do race day pick-up. |
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