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 2023-06-30 1:16 AM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
 1806    , Kronobergs lan |  Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPENOriginally posted by jmhpsu93 Very solid week progressing along. Yesterday got in a really good 75 minute Bikram session and then a noon Z2 into Z3 ride (hour). This morning was some short steady state intervals on the bike and a 25+ minute run on the treadmill with some tempo intervals, then did 30 minutes of strength and #$@$#!! planks. Mike, crushing it, as usual.. enjoy the long weekend! |
| 2023-06-30 5:04 AM in reply to: 0 |
| 1806 , Kronobergs lan | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Originally posted by bulfrog Originally posted by drfoodlove I got a little curious about how my training this year is stacking up to last year's training, Your comments about this year compared to last year got me thinking about my own progress. 1st Jan - 30 June 2022, approx. 90 hours SBR total, and 11lbs gained. 1st Jan - 30 June 2023, approx. 138 hours SBR total and 11lbs dropped. I don't have a similar workout to compare to. But there's no question that's a better first half of the year than last. Nice increase Andrew (and drop)! I got curious about my numbers too. Could only compare whole years Jul 21 to June 22 : 214 hours Jul 22 to June 23 : 289 hours a nice increase too but not as much as Andrew. Anyone else want to share their 22vs23 numbers? I have a feeling we're all crushing it! Edited by Rollergirl 2023-06-30 6:38 AM |
| 2023-06-30 8:27 AM in reply to: Rollergirl |
Member 2951  Carbondale, Illinois | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Originally posted by Rollergirl Originally posted by bulfrog Originally posted by drfoodlove I got a little curious about how my training this year is stacking up to last year's training, Your comments about this year compared to last year got me thinking about my own progress. 1st Jan - 30 June 2022, approx. 90 hours SBR total, and 11lbs gained. 1st Jan - 30 June 2023, approx. 138 hours SBR total and 11lbs dropped. I don't have a similar workout to compare to. But there's no question that's a better first half of the year than last. Nice increase Andrew (and drop)! I got curious about my numbers too. Could only compare whole years Jul 21 to June 22 : 214 hours Jul 22 to June 23 : 289 hours a nice increase too but not as much as Andrew. Anyone else want to share their 22vs23 numbers? I have a feeling we're all crushing it! Awesome work, both of you!! I'm game to compare, but don't know how to access the time specific data. I can only see 2022 and 2023 as whole years, and then May and June 2023 in my training log. |
| 2023-06-30 8:32 AM in reply to: drfoodlove |
Member 2951 Carbondale, Illinois | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN This morning was a 3500yd swim, which was 300, 300, 400, then 100x25, which I thoroughly enjoyed, even though I was kinda dumb and reduced the rest interval by 25" from what my coach had posted (originally on the 1', I decided I wanted to do them on the 35"). The split for today's workout was 80/20, but I don't think it was what they were thinking when they designed the plan! After getting home and having some coffee and breakfast on the balcony, I did a 1:12 tempo ride, with 4x10 in Z3. That felt really good--strong and in control. My June is over...here are the results Swim: 11h 26m 43s - 27102.21 Yd Bike: 22h 49m 48s Run: 14h 56m 39s - 65.66 Mi Strength: 3h 50m Everything is about the same as for May. I mean, I did swim 25 more yards in June (but I did it in 2 hours less time!). How did your month's shake out (when they're finished)? |
| 2023-06-30 8:45 AM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Member 2951 Carbondale, Illinois | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN I did find this data on my training peaks account (and I readily acknowledge that there is probably a lot more there that I'm not utilizing) Not too shabby... June '23 51:30:42 May '23 51:25:22 April '23 51:13:33 March '23 47:35:23 February '23 37:03:24 January '23 42:07:14 December '22 9:05:56 November '22 21:24:49 October '22 29:16:11 September+11:14 '22 14:48:00 August '22 35:00:37 July '22 53:58:23 June '22 55:47:24 I'm at 280.75ish hours for 2023 |
| 2023-06-30 9:04 AM in reply to: drfoodlove |
| 1806 , Kronobergs lan | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Originally posted by drfoodlove This morning was a 3500yd swim, which was 300, 300, 400, then 100x25, which I thoroughly enjoyed, even though I was kinda dumb and reduced the rest interval by 25" from what my coach had posted (originally on the 1', I decided I wanted to do them on the 35"). The split for today's workout was 80/20, but I don't think it was what they were thinking when they designed the plan! After getting home and having some coffee and breakfast on the balcony, I did a 1:12 tempo ride, with 4x10 in Z3. That felt really good--strong and in control. My June is over...here are the results Swim: 11h 26m 43s - 27102.21 Yd Bike: 22h 49m 48s Run: 14h 56m 39s - 65.66 Mi Strength: 3h 50m Everything is about the same as for May. I mean, I did swim 25 more yards in June (but I did it in 2 hours less time!). How did your month's shake out (when they're finished)? Nice June Gretchen here's my June totals S 9853 meters it doesn't show time but at 3' per 100 (including rests) that's almost 5 hours in the water B 264 km - 10:47 hours R 119km 13:20 hours |
| 2023-06-30 9:17 AM in reply to: drfoodlove |
Expert 4759 Middle River, Maryland Silver member | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN June's a wrap for me with a slllllooooooow 2250 yard swim this morning that I totally butchered the Garmin recording on (first forgot set the pool distance back to SCY, then forgot to start the session after I fixed it). Totals: Swim: 3h 32m 01s - 9050.09 Yd Lowest SBR totals this year but that was on purpose because I had a taper (for a race that I didn't do), followed by a transition period/vacation (from a race that I didn't do). The last two weeks were really solid. YTD (happy so far, though I'd like my swim to be higher but who doesn't?): Swim: 27h 32m 57s - 67493.59 Yd I can't figure out how to easily pull BT data over a six-month period., but manually calculating the SBR stuff I'm a little ahead in swimming (+3K yards), a little more ahead in biking (almost +150 miles), and significantly ahead in running (+36 miles). I'd hazard a guess I'm on par with my walking and a tad higher in strength training than at this point last year as I've been much more consistent with it. I'm starting off the second half with probably close to 550-600 miles in July on the bike and trying to tread water so to speak in swimming, running, and my strength/core work but I'm guessing something's gotta give. Happy Friday everyone!!
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| 2023-07-01 2:03 AM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Member 2951 Carbondale, Illinois | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Y'all...it is 10am and I've already done a 4:30 bike/40" brick, had coffee, done my puzzles for the day, paid bills, done a load of laundry, and worked some. I do suppose this is what happens when you get up at 2am (yes, I did!) and train, but I honestly do not know what to do with myself!! Okay, reality is that I'm going to work for a few hours until the Bombers (Aussie rules footy) game starts around 12:30 and then I'll probably fall asleep during the game, so I'll have to rewatch it, which should take me right up to bedtime! Nathalie--hope your race goes well!! |
| 2023-07-01 8:28 AM in reply to: 0 |
| 1806 , Kronobergs lan | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Fall asleep, yes, that’s what I’d do! Race went well, happy with all 4. Time 1:17:40. Didn’t win though (came second) but I have 3 more chances this season (remember, I have to win a race as my hockey team are champions this year. Happened both in 2018 and 2021, can’t let the side down) Thank you to the guy wearing his tri shorts inside out for racing me on the bike, we passed each other a few times, that helped. Race report to follow. Edited by Rollergirl 2023-07-01 8:44 AM |
| 2023-07-01 9:54 AM in reply to: #5283710 |
Member 2951 Carbondale, Illinois | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Great job, Nathalie!!! Guy wearing shorts inside out is a new one on me!! Funny! I’ve let more than one person know their helmet is on backwards, but never that. |
| 2023-07-02 12:43 AM in reply to: drfoodlove |
Member 2951 Carbondale, Illinois | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Another annoying aborted swim attempt this morning. Got to the pool to find it closed for cleaning...again. Listen, I get it, stuff happens that you can't predict, but at least send out a message to your clients that the pool is closed as soon as you know it is closed for emergency situations. Everybody and their brother has WhatsApp and sends texts at all hours of the day and night...this isn't a big ask in Egypt communication-wise. I'm super annoyed, because shifting the swim to tomorrow means my one day a week to sleep in just got taken from me. Good news is that this incident gave me my first "I can't wait to go home" moment of the trip. Just under two weeks left and I think I'm getting mentally ready for the transition. Hope everyone's day is starting better than mine! |
| 2023-07-02 2:34 AM in reply to: drfoodlove |
| 1806 , Kronobergs lan | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Yes, very annoying indeed! Only 2 weeks until you go home? already? Wow! Time flies! I am sure your wife, family and friends back home will be delighted to hear that the main reason you can’t wait to go home is the regular pool hours! LOL |
| 2023-07-02 2:46 AM in reply to: Rollergirl |
Member 2951 Carbondale, Illinois | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Originally posted by Rollergirl Yes, very annoying indeed! Only 2 weeks until you go home? already? Wow! Time flies! I am sure your wife, family and friends back home will be delighted to hear that the main reason you can’t wait to go home is the regular pool hours! LOL Does it help at all that today I also tried to go to the bank, the office I get paid from, the pharmacy, and the nut shop and all of them were closed without posting their closure and/or informing anyone when they might be open again? Cause that's where I'm at today and it ain't pretty over here. |
| 2023-07-02 3:28 AM in reply to: 0 |
| 1806 , Kronobergs lan | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Race report is up, for your reading pleasure https://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid... Edited by Rollergirl 2023-07-02 6:12 AM |
| 2023-07-02 3:46 AM in reply to: 0 |
| 1806 , Kronobergs lan | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN |
| 2023-07-02 10:25 PM in reply to: Rollergirl |
Regular 1638 Auckland, North Island | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN June was a step backwards for me. As you all know, broken toe, followed by the winter sniffles = all the excuses but too many missed workouts. Swim: 3,050m, 1hr 28 min Bike: 420km, 15hr 31 min Run: 45.5km, 6hr 05min Strength and mobility: 0 |
| 2023-07-02 10:47 PM in reply to: bulfrog |
Regular 1638 Auckland, North Island | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN @Gretchen, Sounds like home time can't come soon enough for you. Experiencing the other cultures is all well and good, but there is no place like home. Great job on your 2am start bike/run mission. What time do you get to sleep for that? I suppose that's one benefit of being away from your family, no sideways looks for going to bed at 6pm because you have a super early workout. @Nathalie, Great job on your race. @Mike, How goes the tour de france challenge? Nice job on a solid first half the year. Up on everything has to be good @Nicole, how was the wedding? Hope you had a good time, but not so good you're regretting it for the next few days  My week ended ok, but not great. Friday night: 90 min on the bike watching the warriors, check. Unfortunately had a pretty heavy loss. Still, a lot of season left to go Saturday morning: Mr 6s soccer is off for a few weeks due to school holidays, so went for my run Saturday for the first time in a while. 90(ish) minutes in the wind/rain check Saturday night, Miss 2 was up for several hours through the middle of the night, not feeling well, and a couple of throw ups. Then, I woke up tired, with very blocked up sinuses, end result back to bed, Sunday bike ride canceled. Ended up, 2 rides, 2 1/2 hours. 3 runs, 2 1/2 hours. 5 hours total for the week. Considering I had 2 days off not terrible, but always disappointed in myself to skip workouts. Still suffering a bit from the winter sniffles, quite blocked up today. I'm 50:50 whether to make today a rest day, or do an easy workout tonight. I always struggle with the balancing act, I don't want to make myself properly sick and be down and out for weeks. But I also don't want to skip lots of workouts I should be able to train through. Today is 4 weeks till the 'official start' of my 70.3 training plan. So it's important that in 4 weeks im fit, healthy and ready to go. But I also don't want to spend the next 4 weeks losing the fitness I have managed to build so far this year. It's always a balancing act. |
| 2023-07-03 1:58 AM in reply to: 0 |
| 1806 , Kronobergs lan | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Andrew sorry to hear you and the family are struggling with bugs. If you feel up to it, an easy workout is probably best. And by easy I mean a going shopping speed (easy spin, zone 0) session on Zwift while watching something. Keeps the body active but doesn’t take any strength away as your body needs to concentrate on fightting the bad guys. Just found out that the girl who beat me by 7 minutes in my last tri of the season last year has entered the same race this year. Challenge accepted b*tch (said in friendly manner here ). So I need to up my training and find 7 minutes. It doesn’t mean I’ll beat her as she my have got better too. It doesn’t mean I’ll win the race as somebody faster my sign up. But it means that I have something to aim for. Advice and help gratefully received. How do I go about it? It’s a sprint so 7 minutes is big Edited by Rollergirl 2023-07-03 1:59 AM |
| 2023-07-03 4:02 AM in reply to: 0 |
Member 2951 Carbondale, Illinois | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Originally posted by Rollergirl Challenge accepted b*tch (said in friendly manner here ). LOVE IT!! Start with the low hanging fruit...transitions (although I think you had a 38" T2 in your last race, so I'm not sure how you can improve on that!). And make sure your swim catch is the new form, not the old!! Hmmmm...other than that, little things like running the straightest route on the run, don't stick to the edge of the route, choose the route that has the fewest steps around corners (if possible and safe!) Bike--just hammer a little bit more? Don't ask me...my motto for sprints is to go as fast as possible in that moment and hope when you fall apart it is right after the finish line. This is why I don't do many sprints! Edited by drfoodlove 2023-07-03 4:05 AM |
| 2023-07-03 4:13 AM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Member 2951 Carbondale, Illinois | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN @Andrew--sorry to hear about the illness woes (still/again?) Anyway, my advice is the exact opposite of Nathalie's--maybe it is time to consider an actual planned training stoppage to let your body get back to fully healthy on the bug front (and any little niggles you might have). If you plan it to be a no training week, there is no stress that you aren't training. The cool thing about the human body (and also the thing that sucks sometimes) is that we only have one way to respond to stress. It doesn't matter if the stress it heavy training loads, or poor nutrition, illness, or mom and dad fighting in the living room, or being chased by a tiger--your body does the same thing, it activates your fight or flight mechanism (if you're interested, this is called Selye's stress model). With all your illnesses, you've been adding stress on top of your training load (not to mention your daily life stresses) and you've been adding the mental stress of the do I train/don't I train to all of this. If you take training and the question of whether you will train out of the equation for a week(ish), you give your body a much greater chance at recovery than if you continue to decide on a day to day basis. Can't hurt...one week won't kill your fitness, just be sure to come back easily so you don't undo all the progress you made with an injury (or an illness relapse!). For me...2000 yds in the pool, with a lot of kicking and pulling work. Somehow I can kick fast, I can pull fast, but when I try to put them together, it does not result in a fast swim. I think there is a communication breakdown somewhere between my top and bottom halves that makes swimming difficult. (and the pool was open only a short 15' after it was supposed to be this morning, after the engineer tested the water in 5 different places...I'm convinced he was looking for the reading that would make it so I could swim, because I was already sitting on the deck waiting...somewhat impatiently.). |
| 2023-07-03 9:01 AM in reply to: 0 |
| 1806 , Kronobergs lan | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Originally posted by drfoodlove Originally posted by Rollergirl Challenge accepted b*tch (said in friendly manner here ). LOVE IT!! Start with the low hanging fruit...transitions (although I think you had a 38" T2 in your last race, so I'm not sure how you can improve on that!). And make sure your swim catch is the new form, not the old!! Hmmmm...other than that, little things like running the straightest route on the run, don't stick to the edge of the route, choose the route that has the fewest steps around corners (if possible and safe!) Bike--just hammer a little bit more? Don't ask me...my motto for sprints is to go as fast as possible in that moment and hope when you fall apart it is right after the finish line. This is why I don't do many sprints! I don't think transitions are low hanging fruit. I am pretty much on top of my game there (that's the only thing I am good at) Checked last year's and my T2 at that race was 37'' against her 54''. Not sure about our T1 because the result lists adds up the swim + T1 and I didn't change my watch until about 2k into the bike. There is always a few seconds to grab here but that's not where the big money is. Yes, I think I need to be better on the bike. Will increase the training volume here. Thanks, and yes, I need to watch my swim technique. Edited by Rollergirl 2023-07-03 10:45 AM |
| 2023-07-03 12:07 PM in reply to: Rollergirl |
Expert 4759 Middle River, Maryland Silver member | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Hey, all. Happy Monday. We kinda sorta have a four-day weekend here in the U.S. (I'm working a half day today, again kinda sorta Just finished Stage 3 this morning with about 25 miles around my area. It is so grossly humid and hot out. When I finished it was like 87 freedoms and the humidity was high enough that it was raining a little, then the sun came out and cooked me. hrTSS was like 20% higher than my wattage TSS on Training Peaks. Got in a 1500 swim beforehand so a good day despite the rough ride. Stage 1 was an hour-long race in Zwift, which was brutal, and Stage 2 was around one of the state parks with my daughter, who while not on my level yet is getting so much better on the bike since early this and last year. Year round bike training will do that for you (I gave her my old trainer). Stage 4 is another 30 or so miles outdoors tomorrow before heading inside to Zwift a bunch of worlds and races. @Andrew: pushing through the sniffles is OK, but if anything is below the neck time to shut it down. I agree with the ladies...either super easy for a few days or just shut it down until you're better. You've had a good start to the year so you have a lot of fitness banked. @Nathalie: great race, and love the attitude towards that evil woman; I'm going to agree you aren't going to improve your transitions much - maybe swim harder? I mean like gas yourself a little and rely on the fact you're burning arm/core matches vs. legs. You're a really solid racer across the board so you're going to have to experiment a little to see what you're capable of. Or just do what Gretchen does and redline it from the get go and hope you flame out 5 feet past the finish and not 1 mile into the run. @Gretchen: so glad you'll be back soon - that schedule of yours is insane; and don't worry the "closing the pool and not telling anyone" is not just an Egyptian custom...they do it here at the Y from time to time Hope everyone has a healthy week!
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).| 2023-07-03 8:35 PM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Regular 1638 Auckland, North Island | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN 7 minutes sounds like a lot of time to find in a sprint. But of course you have to try and take the b**ch down. haha. Like Gretchen, I'm a diesel engine, so haven't had much experience with the shorter, higher intensity stuff. I would say though, intervals are going to be your best friend. Swim, focus on technique, you already have had some tips from a coach to work on. work on that. Bike, Lots of intervals pushing harder than your goal power. some short (1-2 minutes) really hard Z5 stuff, some longer 5-20 min Just above your goal race pace. Every ride has hard intervals in it. Run, train like your training for a 5km run. every week: 1 tempo or cruise interval run, 1 Interval run, (Z4-5 intervals) well above 5k pace. 1 longer run, with the end of the run @5km pace or faster, getting you used to pushing hard on fatigued legs. Also check over your gear. Make sure your bottles etc. are in nice and aero positions. Make sure your drivetrain is clean and properly lubed. I'm assuming you're not going to go out and buy a set of zipp wheels, but make sure you optimise what you have, fast tires (gp5000s) latex tubes (if you're not running tubeless that is) You also might want to look into a pair of the new carbon plated 'super shoes'. They are probably worth a couple of minutes on their own. #NotACoach |
| 2023-07-03 9:07 PM in reply to: drfoodlove |
Regular 1638 Auckland, North Island | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Originally posted by drfoodlove @Andrew--sorry to hear about the illness woes (still/again?)..... Haha, I think in this case it's still. 2 or 3 weeks of the Mike style 'perma-cold'. I know the symptoms above/below the neck guidelines like mike said, in this case it's all above. Which in a way is a pain, if I were properly sick with a fever/sweats etc. then taking a break is a no brainer. It's the 'little bit sick' zone where I've got the should I or should I not dilema. I did run for a very easy paced 30 min on the treadmill last night, but I am leaning towards Gretchen's theory of taking a few days to a week totally off and trying to properly recover. That said, I have 2 young children at home, so my overall stress level is not going to get particularly low for the next couple of decades. Like you said Gretchen, a week makes very little difference in the long run. And I have to remember that the goal is to perform well in December and March. (and ultimately be living the Ironman lifestyle into my 80's) not do a specific run/ride some random week in July. Blah. Being responsible sucks. |
| 2023-07-04 12:34 AM in reply to: bulfrog |
Member 2951 Carbondale, Illinois | Subject: RE: Beer Drinkers Appreciation Society (BDAS) 2023 Mentor Group - ALWAYS OPEN Originally posted by bulfrog 7 minutes sounds like a lot of time to find in a sprint. But of course you have to try and take the b**ch down. haha. Like Gretchen, I'm a diesel engine, so haven't had much experience with the shorter, higher intensity stuff. I would say though, intervals are going to be your best friend. Swim, focus on technique, you already have had some tips from a coach to work on. work on that. Bike, Lots of intervals pushing harder than your goal power. some short (1-2 minutes) really hard Z5 stuff, some longer 5-20 min Just above your goal race pace. Every ride has hard intervals in it. Run, train like your training for a 5km run. every week: 1 tempo or cruise interval run, 1 Interval run, (Z4-5 intervals) well above 5k pace. 1 longer run, with the end of the run @5km pace or faster, getting you used to pushing hard on fatigued legs. Also check over your gear. Make sure your bottles etc. are in nice and aero positions. Make sure your drivetrain is clean and properly lubed. I'm assuming you're not going to go out and buy a set of zipp wheels, but make sure you optimise what you have, fast tires (gp5000s) latex tubes (if you're not running tubeless that is) You also might want to look into a pair of the new carbon plated 'super shoes'. They are probably worth a couple of minutes on their own. #NotACoach I love that your advice includes new gear! It you can't find the speed, buy it!! (and Zipp wheels are awful nice!!) |
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