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2010-05-09 10:54 PM
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JoshKaptur - 2010-05-09 3:13 PM

Thanks to those who have asked about my race!  I'm exhausted but had an amazing day, so I hope you'll forgive me if I just copy what I wrote in my log:


Still waiting for the official results to be posted... but the unofficial results printed at the race said my time was 4:55:32!!!!!  I don't have my splits but if that is legit then I am so happy I can't even describe it to you!!!

I had a secret goal that I considered barely possible if everything came together perfectly to go sub 5 (sounds crazy but that would be a 50 minute PR).  When I left the hotel on race morning there were 20mph constant winds with gusts to 30... plus it was HUMID (I sweat a lot).  I went from being nervous to being completely "oh well" and just decided to have fun.  I knew everyone would be b*tching about how choppy the lake was and how hard the bike was going to be and all that.  I love the irony of triathletes who pay thousands of dollars to challenge themselves and suffer and then get all sissified when it's windy or hilly or choppy or hot or whatever.  HTFU people, we're all equally disadvantaged.

I switched my garmin over to HR/time only, and removed my bike computer... something I've been wanting to experiment with for some time but always have big time goals so won't let myself.  With the wind today, I figured what the heck.

So when I felt good I pushed a little harder, and when I felt bad I held back a little more.  I didn't worry about maintaining any paces on the bike or anything... I didn't know what my pace was!  I just road what felt good and backed off if my HR got above 150.  Figured I'd save it for the run.

This was my first race ever racing towards the front of the pack.  I was in the first swim wave.  My swim has really improved recently.  I borrowed Scott-the-dirt-eater's wetsuit and it tested about 10sec faster per 100y in the pool the day before.  I also got passed several minutes into the race by someone from the wave behind me, and determined that I would grab onto his feet and draft him.  I don't know what got into me but I was able to do it and hold on... and it was unbelievable how much faster I was able to go.  I was hurting but it felt so good to be going that fast through the water.  

On the bike I'm used to passing tons of people as a result of my poor swim.  This was different... I probably passed about 10 people on the first lap and I probably got passed by about 20 people.  It was pretty spread out and everyone was cooking along at what felt like a pretty decent pace.  MAN the wind was brutal.  Just brutal.  But I felt good and stuck with my plan.

I was shocked to experience on lap two just how many people among the fasties also make the same mistakes I've seen (and made) in the middle of the pack.  I passed about 30 people in the last 10 miles of the bike.  I remembered some of them BLOWING by me like I was standing still earlier on the bike... now they had obviously blown up and were just hoping it would end... with the wind and the bad pavement showing no mercy... and dreading the fact that they had to run a half marathon afterwards.  I, on the other hand, felt great and was actually looking forward to the run.

I do have my run split... it was 1:38:01... which would have been a stand-alone half marathon PR for me by ~9 minutes.  Again I am so stoked for this.  That even includes forgetting my race belt (I've now done this in 2 races) and having to spend about 40 seconds going back to T2 to retrieve it.  I was passed by 3-4 people on the run, and I passed dozens.  I may have passed a few more than that at the end, but it was impossible to tell because it was a 3 loop course so I was passing hundreds of people by lap 3.  The bottom line is that it was obvious I had paced myself right and saved it for the run, so that despite having a respectable bike time I was just cruising through the hot/humid/windy run while most of the people around me were suffering pretty badly.

4:55:32 was my unofficial finish.  What is so exciting about that is a quick gland to the right will show you my HIM PR from 2008 at Diamondman... a MUCH easier course... was 5:49:45.




Great race and great report.  I sometimes think we all can perform better if we go by feel and leave some of the high tech gear behind.  It seems like it can be a mental limiter at times.  Seems to be the case in your effort today, you went by feel and kicked butt. 

Congrats,

Greg


2010-05-09 11:40 PM
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calimavs - 2010-05-09 6:06 PM So I just got back from my longest ride ever in my life - 38 miles. Did a loop with my husband from our house out across the Golden Gate Bridge into the hills in Marin County and back. The forecast called for a chance of showers and we got rained on a bit but the thing we really had to deal with was the wind. It was relentless!

The ride was good but I'm sort of beating myself up now because I am so darn slow. I realize that the route we took was hilly and it was windy and we had a lot of stop lights but I was barely able to average 12 mph. I ride 2-3x a week and my husband only rides a few times a month and he can still smoke me on the bike. I think I'm just frustrated/worried because I want to try to do the bike for my HIM in under 4 hours and unless I get substantially faster between now and then I don't see that happening. I'm going to talk to my coach and see what he says about really trying to work on my biking since it really is what is going to hold me back going into the HIM.

Thanks for listening, sometimes it just feels good to vent about a frustrating day of training.  


I can totally relate to this and I understand  your frustration. I can work for months and months on my running and my significant other decides to join me on a occasional run (read once a month..maybe) and he right behind me until I tell him to just pass me and get it over with. Makes me crazyYell     It is hard not to compare yourself to others.  Glad you felt you could vent.Smile
2010-05-09 11:49 PM
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Thanks for all the suggestions/encouragement about the bike adjustment. I appreciate it.
I hope to get out again sometime soon. The weather is turning (again) and now the weather report calls for "May snowstorm heading this way".   The water here is never going to warm up! I wonder if the races I have offer a bike run option Smile
2010-05-10 12:29 AM
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Kath2163 - 2010-05-09 2:27 PM I finally got to take my bike out on the road today. It wasn't a long ride but long enough to test things out. My forearms got tired pretty fast and I moved my elbows onto the pads which helped. Also my the inside of my left shoulder blade started aching. Not sure what this is about. I don't  have this problem when I am in the aerobars on my road bike. Maybe some adjustments need to be made?
Here are some pics of today's ride. We were in Cherry Creek Park which is where numerous tris and other races happen.


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2010-05-10 12:37 AM
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calimavs - 2010-05-09 6:06 PM So I just got back from my longest ride ever in my life - 38 miles. Did a loop with my husband from our house out across the Golden Gate Bridge into the hills in Marin County and back. The forecast called for a chance of showers and we got rained on a bit but the thing we really had to deal with was the wind. It was relentless!

The ride was good but I'm sort of beating myself up now because I am so darn slow. I realize that the route we took was hilly and it was windy and we had a lot of stop lights but I was barely able to average 12 mph. I ride 2-3x a week and my husband only rides a few times a month and he can still smoke me on the bike. I think I'm just frustrated/worried because I want to try to do the bike for my HIM in under 4 hours and unless I get substantially faster between now and then I don't see that happening. I'm going to talk to my coach and see what he says about really trying to work on my biking since it really is what is going to hold me back going into the HIM.

Thanks for listening, sometimes it just feels good to vent about a frustrating day of training.  


I always find that on race day I tend to go a little faster than training because you don't have to stop for red lights and stop signs and usually you can swing wide around the corners. I also think that doing hills will only do good things for you. If you train the hills then on a hilly course you will be trained for what you're doing. Even training in the wind is good because if there isn't wind on race day, you'll think you're flying on the bike. I know it sucks to train in tough conditions and I curse them also but I think that the more obstacles I have in training the easier race day will seem. I also don't know how much riding you're doing but I found with my running that I just wasn't getting enough in and it really showed on race day. Keep your chin up, you are doing amazing things.
2010-05-10 12:47 AM
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Great job on the 1/2 IM this weekend. What a time (under 5 hours). I'm interested in how your nutrition and fluid intake went on the race.

I had a pretty decent weekend. I did my OWS on Saturday and did my 5k tonight. I'm almost at the point that I can continuously run the whole 5k. I PR'd again tonight and almost have my time down to 12 min miles. I know for everyone else this is slow but for me it's a big improvement. I hope to run almost all the 5K this weekend at my sprint. I can see that the running will start to be more enjoyable when I get in better shape. In the beginning, it was torture just to do 3 miles.

Sounds like most of us got in a bit of training. I think we're all doing great.


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phxphotog - 2010-05-10 1:47 AM Great job on the 1/2 IM this weekend. What a time (under 5 hours). I'm interested in how your nutrition and fluid intake went on the race.




I ate a power-bar and a gatorade for breakfast.  On the bike I had 1 gatorade (in my aerobottle) and then re-filled with HEED which was offered on the course at 4 points.  I drank 4 bottles of HEED.  So 5 bottles of sports drink for a 2:45ish ride = 1 bottle every 35ish minutes.  I also got a water at each aid station, but dumped the majority on my head/back although I did take a few sips before ditching it in the drop zone.

On the run I alternated HEED (or coke depending on what was available) and WATER at each aid station... I believe I took something at 10 of them.  I was unwilling to stop running so I was kind of at the mercy of whatever the kids had in their hands.

I did not consume any solid foods until after the race, and felt adequately fueled the entire race.  It was pretty warm and muggy, so I was sweating quite a bit.  Despite how much I drank, I did not have to urinate at all during the race, though I thought I was going to need to early on in the bike.
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Kath2163 - 2010-05-10 12:49 AM Thanks for all the suggestions/encouragement about the bike adjustment. I appreciate it.
I hope to get out again sometime soon. The weather is turning (again) and now the weather report calls for "May snowstorm heading this way".   The water here is never going to warm up! I wonder if the races I have offer a bike run option Smile

If the weather is keeping you inside on the trainer, it is a good time to condition yourself for riding in aero. 

The weather has been strange this year all over!!

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PennState - 2010-05-10 12:00 PM Anyone training today?


Did my long weekly swim this morning. It is always one of my favorite weekly workouts. Will spin later today...locaion TBD based on rain
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PennState - 2010-05-10 9:00 AM Anyone training today?


Nope! Monday rest day before a very busy week of training and getting ready to fly to Rochester NY for my little sister's college graduation this coming weekend.
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PennState - 2010-05-10 12:00 PM Anyone training today?

Just some core and upper body strength training in the fit room this morning.  Maybe a swim after work, but more than likely the swim will occur later in the week when the air temp warms a bit.

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PennState - 2010-05-10 9:00 AM Anyone training today?


Nope! Monday rest day before a very busy week of training and getting ready to fly to Rochester NY for my little sister's college graduation this coming weekend.

Well if I was home I would meet you for a run!  Which school is she graduating from?

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Nope! Monday rest day before a very busy week of training and getting ready to fly to Rochester NY for my little sister's college graduation this coming weekend.

Well if I was home I would meet you for a run!  Which school is she graduating from?



She's graduating double major in neurobiology and psychology from University of Rochester. I'm going to totally be a proud big sis on Sunday. I've heard a lot about the Erie Canal Multi Use trail in Rochester so I'm going to try to get in a run there if I can during our trip.


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calimavs - 2010-05-10 12:50 PM
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Nope! Monday rest day before a very busy week of training and getting ready to fly to Rochester NY for my little sister's college graduation this coming weekend.

Well if I was home I would meet you for a run!  Which school is she graduating from?



She's graduating double major in neurobiology and psychology from University of Rochester. I'm going to totally be a proud big sis on Sunday. I've heard a lot about the Erie Canal Multi Use trail in Rochester so I'm going to try to get in a run there if I can during our trip.

I've heard about those smart kids that hang out there! The closest they let me to that place is the half marathons that run through the campus!   Congratulations to her (and you) for completing what sounds like a challenging program!

The Erie Canal trails are nice and there are some nice trails along the Genesee river too.  Highland Park is also a nice place for a run this time of year.  Although I beleive the Lilac Festival is starting this weekend and it gets a little crowded for a run.  I hope the weather there improves!!! 

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PennState - 2010-05-10 9:00 AM Anyone training today?


3 mile run, 2000 yards of swimming (mostly drills).
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I'm a Facebooker! Have noooooo idea what Twitter is though (yup, I live under a rock).

Tried swimming this morning.  I can swim comfortably if I concentrate on controlling my breath.  Seems that I can't extend my right arm while I exhale and kick. Embarassed  I have the attention span of a gnat so swimming like that got old real quick.  I noticed this same problem when I tried getting on the trainer this weekend. I had no pain until I forgot to pay attention to my breathing and then the muscles would just be at the right amount of contractedness and it'd hurt a little.

I'm thinking about checking out the upper body ergometer at the Y.  I usually just see peeps in wheel chairs using it, but I'm going to show 'em what a future Iron(wo)man can do with that thing!  There would be no twisty motion, so I can't see how it'd get hurt, right?



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PennState - 2010-05-10 9:00 AM Anyone training today?


3 mile run, 2000 yards of swimming (mostly drills).


thats great! How did it feel??
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PennState - 2010-05-10 9:00 AM Anyone training today?


3 mile run, 2000 yards of swimming (mostly drills).


thats great! How did it feel??
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PennState - 2010-05-10 9:00 AM Anyone training today?


3 mile run, 2000 yards of swimming (mostly drills).


thats great! How did it feel??


I puked after the swim.

Ever see Rocky during the training montage when he's carrying that huge log, and he drops it out of exhaustion.  Then he thinks, 'Yo, dere's no way I'll beat Apollo if I can't do this', picks it up, and goes on.  My kick drills were kinda like that.

It did feel good being back, I haven't really trained in 2 weeks.  20 miles LSD on the bike tommorow.  I'm doing nothing but volume the first few weeks, I'll add in intensity when my legs have adapted.
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PennState - 2010-05-10 9:00 AM Anyone training today?


3 mile run, 2000 yards of swimming (mostly drills).


thats great! How did it feel??


I puked after the swim.

Ever see Rocky during the training montage when he's carrying that huge log, and he drops it out of exhaustion.  Then he thinks, 'Yo, dere's no way I'll beat Apollo if I can't do this', picks it up, and goes on.  My kick drills were kinda like that.

It did feel good being back, I haven't really trained in 2 weeks.  20 miles LSD on the bike tommorow.  I'm doing nothing but volume the first few weeks, I'll add in intensity when my legs have adapted.


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