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It's funny that you are saying that because I just responded to another friend's post on different thread about the same thing.  I have a runny and stuffy nose for several hours after a pool swim, particularly at the Y.  At home (we have a salt water pool), I get the runny nose, but no stuffiness.  I attribute it to water getting into the sinus cavity.  The runny nose is just that water being released, along with the sinuses trying to clean the nasal passages.  I think the stuffiness from the Y pool is the irritation caused by all the harsh chemicals.  Of course, this is a guess.  However, you may want to try a saline nose spray before and after a swim in the pool to see if that helps.  I've also heard of people using a Neti Pot after each swim to wash out the sinus cavity. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neti_pot).

Congrats on the 1 mile continuous swim!!  I'm with the rest of them, we'll be looking forward to hearing you swam 2 miles now!  Go gettem!!  You could come down to Chesapeakeman and swim the 2.4 miles with me in Sept!

I've been reading up on heart rate training and am interested in setting up my zones properly because I just used the 220-age method and don't think that is accurate for me.  I would like to get more precision if I'm going to be monitoring my heart rate.  Joe Friels book says that you can use a 1 hour race to determine your Lactate Threshold Heart Rate (LTHR).  So,  if I use my sprint race this past march as a starting point, my garmin hr data shows my average HR for bike and run was 159/158, respectively, and 159 overall for that race.  Is this a good start to getting a more accurate read on  my LTHR, it is very different than the age formula.

Age Formula
Z1  89-107
Z2  107-125

Run LTHR (based on Sprint race on 3/27/10)
Z1  104-134
Z2  135-144

Am I looking at this correctly?  Thanks.

I use the Joe Friel method myself.  I've done the test in the book for cycling (bumping watts up every minute until you see a bump in the graph).  I've also done the :30 test that is talked about in BT forums.  Both came out the same.  (by the way, the one done with a power meter was sooooo much easier)

Yep, what Aaron said.  "220-age is junk"  Once you do an AT test ,you can plug them in here.  http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/edit-hrzones.asp?zoneid=31510.  Here is what mine looks like.  http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/view-hrzones.asp?zoneid=31510

Edited by ray6foot7 2010-06-25 10:05 AM

How cool is this sport?  On Sunday, I'll be racing alongside Greg Bennett, Matty Reed and Sara McLarty, three of the top triathletes in the world!  OK... they may be just a TAD bit in front of me... but you get the idea.

Awesome...have fun Bill!

That's great Bill! Have a wonderful race...don't get too hot out there and enjoy the wetsuit-free swim.

And even cooler is that if you get a chance to talk with them they'll probably actually talk to you!

Have fun and go get after it.

Lots of mixed emotions about today's race.  Some very sad news... in the sprint race yesterday, one of the swimmers never exited the water, so they started a search yesterday that continued into today.  I haven't checked the news yet, but I heard they recovered his body just after our race started.  Needless to say, the olympic race today was switched to a duathlon. 

I wasn't prepared for a duathlon and have actually never raced one.  I went out pretty fast on the run... didn't try to, just did what felt good.  And I actually set a PR for 5k.  Got on the bike and my legs felt pretty weak for the first few miles.  Drank tons of water and gatorade and felt like I hydrated perfectly.  About 2/3 of the way through the bike, my calves started to cramp up, so I upped the gatorade intake.  Had 3 GU packs on the bike.  At T2, I took 3 Enduralytes and drank lots more.  By now, it was 90 degrees out and I was hurting.  I ran the first mile or so, but then decided to do a walk/run mix because I was now cramping up in my ribs.

Started feeling better around mile 4, so I ran more than walked, but it was brutally hot.  Several people were on the sides of the road being treated by paramedics.  I was able to "run" the last mile and finished at 3:07, which is EXACTLY my time from last year.  About 20 minutes after I crossed the finish line, they closed the course due to the heat.  Crazy day.

Full race report coming in the next day or two.  I need to let this one sink in a little before writing the full RR.  The athlete that didn't make it home really hit me hard.

Race report is up...  I hope everyone had a great weekend.

Wow, not sure how to respond that race Bill.  What a tragedy.  Our prayers go out to Derek and his family.  Reminds us all how precious life is and to be as safe as possible, but nothing is guaranteed.

On the race, good job dealing with that heat.  I don't know how you guys do it.

On a lighter note... An interesting note about my performance in this year's Philly Tri vs. last year's...  Check out my consistency...

2009 result: 3:07:36
2010 result: 3:07:38

The results were practically identical, but the 2010 race was a Du instead of a Tri and the temperature was about 20 degrees hotter this year.  Ray, like you said in your first race... I took what the day gave me (and it gave me a nasty rash on my butt!).

Wow...that makes me pause and get things in perspective. Great job handling what the day dished out.

I always look at that as 100m of the "drill of my choice" e.g. (tarzan drill, one arm drill, catch-up, fingertip drag, etc......)

Thanks, that makes sense. I guess I have to learn some drills to use for these workouts.  I just did a backstoke for those repeats.

Matt - I'm with Ray - when it has a non-specific drill, I choose one to do. I really like the catch-up drill (leading hand stays out in front until the pull arm returns to the front - I lightly tap my fingers together before the other hand does a complete stroke). It gives me a sense of my pull and my balance in the water.

Just a couple of quick updates - I started using a nose clip at the pool and that has helped a lot with the sinus irritation. Thanks for the feedback all. A friend told me of a nice OWS in a local pond (off the dock, around the island in the center and back to the dock) that has an estimated distance of a mile - we're going to try it out this weekend.

At the beginning of the year, I asked for help with insomnia - and I have really tried to follow advice I was giving and (good news!) it's working! I have been able to *stay* asleep (my issue was not with falling asleep, but with staying asleep) much longer and with better quality sleep. Thanks so much for the recommendations/advice.

Bill - I am was so sorry to hear about the life lost at your event. It really makes you think about how dangerous a lot of this can be. The good news is you still had a great race and did very well. Hope you are recovering from the effort.

OK... I have to ask... what's a tarzan drill?  Swing from the rafters and land in the pool while beating your chest?

great job with your race this weekend Bill.  I think the hardest thing going from tri to du would be mental - you've prepared for so long to do a tri and then bam - you get to run twice and bike. It shows how well prepared physically you were so the mental part was an easier transition I suppose.

I hope everyone is doing well. Summers are crazy busy here with soccer, vacations and all that other stuff everyone does. so I haven't been on the site much - or training as much for that matter - but I hope you all have a great 4th of July!

Enjoy the rest of the week.

Jennifer - what exactly are you doing for the sleep?  I still have some issue waking up, but it's better than it was for me.

I'm planning on some good lake swimming this weekend since I'll be up there Fri-Mon.  Everyone have a great 4th!

This Friday I plan a long bike in the morning where I leave home and meet the clan as they drive up to our cottage.  The problem is the temp is expected to be a bout 50 when I start and 70-75 when I finish.  I'll be wearing some clothes at the beginning which I will need to shed as the ride goes on, mainly my jacket.  What do you do with the extra clothes when you take them off?

I know, I know, the jacket - that's the thing you guys wore back in January!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESJAwH3uC8w

I guess what I do isn't really "tarzan drill".  The only difference in this video and how I do it is in the recovery.    My hands and arms are completely underwater during the recovery.  It reenforces many good habits for me.  Proper arm placement out front (it's impossible to cross center line).  Good rhythm. Good catch (if you have a bad catch during this drill you can't keep your head above water) And straight swimming (no fishtailing).  It is by far my favorite drill to do.  Anyways, Bill, that's trazan drill.