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2016-03-31 4:57 PM
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I'm interested Dave. I've got Galloway's Half Marathon book - I'll put a review together once I finish it.


OK - So there were two....

As we read these books - let's get the info out there chapter by chapter - just some quick bullet points. Do you think that would work? Or is that too much?


2016-03-31 4:59 PM
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Thanks for the advice Alan and Juan. Feeling better about the HIM plan now.

Scheduled rest day on my plan, so naturally I did strength training and yoga! Still very difficult for me to wrap my head around two days off a week. This feels like a nice compromise for now.


Hey Gretchen - As you read the book - be sure to post any good info you get. April is book month for the BDAS.
2016-03-31 5:11 PM
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I just bought Swim, Bike, Run, Eat: The Complete Guide to Fueling Your Triathlon

Any one else want to take part in the BDAS Book Reports? All you have to do is read a book about triathlon this month (April) and write up an update about what you learned each weekend (or whenever works for you)? Just think of all the knowledge we could generate. Hell - we might even become as smart as Alan

Who's in?
2016-03-31 8:46 PM
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I just bought Swim, Bike, Run, Eat: The Complete Guide to Fueling Your Triathlon

Any one else want to take part in the BDAS Book Reports? All you have to do is read a book about triathlon this month (April) and write up an update about what you learned each weekend (or whenever works for you)? Just think of all the knowledge we could generate. Hell - we might even become as smart as Alan

Who's in?


Oh, I want to hear what you think about that one, Dave Q!
I have the half marathon book by Galloway and the Be Iron Fit book for the full IM but you already have folks for those - I can add on to that. I do have the Triathlete's Training Bible but will admit I haven't read it nearly like I read the others - it's a BIG book. hahahha.


So I finally got on the trainer today and did a brief 30 minutes of biking - road bike, no tri bike, no aero bars allowed. It was hard to stay upright and not go into aero position... (I am addicted to it now)

Juan was mentioning earlier about practicing riding in aero in small bits....I didn't do this and I'll bet it could be a contributing factor to my back issue. It's a very different position and maybe my core/back wasn't ready for it - at least the prolonged efforts I was doing - 2:45. I don't know, but I'll be on my road bike for a bit until this back issue subsides, then I'll ease back in.

The back is still messed up so no swimming. No running but today was my first day coaching 3rd-5th graders in a group called Mini Milers - it's a running group for boys and girls. The main gist of it is getting kids excited about being active, setting goals, teaching healthy habits, etc. So ironically I couldn't run with them (3 other coaches did that) but I walked the route and knew that I would end up with half the kids walking with me. That is exactly what happened and they did off and on. We played a tag game to warm up before the run and taught them the difference between dynamic and static stretching and when to do each. Finally I got to talk to them about their pee...hahahahah...I knew it would get their attention to help them pay attention to their hydration throughout the day.
I did do a bit of very slow jogging, just for 50 yards here and there during their run and I can feel it now so I know I'm not ready yet. I have been a bit cranky here with all of my pent up energy but I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Some serious training plan adjustments will have to be made after having over a week off.... On the happy side, I haven't gained weight from sitting around so I guess that's okay. I will be psyched to get back at it. In the meantime, I'll do a few 30 minute trainer sessions - maybe one a day; and get out and walk the dog to keep the legs going. I'd like to do pool jogging but because it's my back I think I'd like to talk with my PT about it first - it might be too much resistance.

3 weeks and we head to Florida! Yay!! Warm weather!!
2016-03-31 8:48 PM
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Made the very difficult decision to cancel our final hope for a season in Egypt yesterday afternoon. I'm super bummed, but I will say I was kinda vindicated this morning when I saw the news about a hijacked plane in Egypt. I want to go, but certainly not at the risk of my life! Soothed myself with a little REI shopping spree--new tri top, new bike lights, new bike gloves--spring clearance sale going on now if you are in need of anything.

Now that I finally know what my life will be like for the next few months, I'm off to investigate our masters swim class!


There's that silver lining! I love gear retail therapy!
I'm sorry about your Egypt trip though - I know you were looking forward to it.
2016-03-31 8:50 PM
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I was hungry of training (after such a lazy Easter), back on track!
Today 1900m swim (2 min per 100m), 45 min spinning class followed by 30 min run, almost a full sprint tri.

Juan


Well done, Juan! I'm living my life vicariously through you!


2016-04-01 6:56 AM
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Did some reading, set myself an interval pattern, and went out gave Galloway's run-walk a try today. The knee started to tickle at around the spot in my loop, which at first blush is no good. But I took a look at my pace data afterwards and I must have internally decided that "walk breaks mean I can go faster!" because my run intervals were way faster than my norm. So that wasn't smart. Will try again tomorrow and actually keep myself in check.

But that's exactly why the run walk method work - because it means you can run faster thanks to talking breaks. Do you train with a GRS - if you could figure out the sweat spot between spead and injury - you should be all set. Start slow and work up.

I don't have a GPS watch, but I do have a tracking app on my phone so I can see my route after the run. I set it up to give me my current pace every minute and used that as a guide to keep myself somewhat in check yesterday (oh my, but it was a beautiful day here). Lo and behold, that did the trick. I did my usual loop from the office, made it through the whole thing without any knee issues, felt like I could have done another lap, and still topped my average pace from pre-run/walk by about a minute. It's still slower than where I was before my 18 month hiatus, but I'll take it! Then the dog decided to wake up about an hour early this morning, so I actually had time to take him for a set of natural intervals - run a few blocks, stop to sniff, repeat. Feeling motivated.

My parents are in town for a few days to help us build a garden fence (need to keep the bunnies out). So while I'm sure I'll be plenty sore by Monday, I'm not sure how much s/b/r I'll fit in this weekend. There will probably be plenty of wine, though.

For a personal brag, my wife and I finished off our month of being reeaaaallly diligent about our nutrition, and I lost 16 pounds. Had a great bottle of Pinot Noir to celebrate.

Gretchen, sorry to hear your trip got cancelled. I've got a friend from high school who lived in Cairo a few years ago, including during the revolution, and these days I'm not sure even she's comfortable going back. Sometimes you just need to play it safe and hope it gets better for your next season.

2016-04-01 9:22 AM
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Long trainer ride this morning 1:45, followed by a Z2 brick run of 15 minutes (#128/400). I can feel it in my quads today!

I'm in for reviewing Half Ironfit (or whatever the book is actually called). I finished reading it a few weeks ago, so preparing a review will force me to review some of the info I should already be reviewing! I have the Triathlon Training Bible too, but I think Jenn called that one (and she is right--it is a BIG book!).
2016-04-01 1:48 PM
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You're welcome to review the Training Bible, Gretchen, I am no where close to being done with it! Hahaha
2016-04-01 4:32 PM
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Long swim working on my long stride: 2500m in 50 min. Ready for a great ride tomorrow!
I would pay couple beers (or a bottle of best red wine) to whom summarizes the Training Bible!

Juan
2016-04-02 12:19 AM
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Dennis, huge congrats on the 16 pound month. Great job!

Gretchen, sorry to hear about Egypt.

Dave, I don't own any training books and honestly no time to read one right now anyway. But I do occasionally pick up the magazines or I'm always on websites. So if I pick up useful stuff there I can share.

Thursday was another run, filled with 14x30 second sprint intervals. Friday was an off day and today I cycled to the beach for a group open water swim. Sunday I am running a 10km with some Co workers and I'm aiming to break an hour for the first time.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

-Matt


2016-04-02 10:15 AM
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Dennis, I missed this one, 16 pounds! wow, congrats!

Gretchen, I used to go quite frequently to Cairo and Alexandria for lectures, not so much lately but have good friends overthere. I think it is better to play safe these days....and you have more time to train till next year!

Matt, good luck on your race tomorrow, enjoy!

Great, beautiful sunny ride for 3h in the mountains near Madrid, loved it, but then terrible brick of 30 min run: am I the only one who hates bricks??

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2016-04-02 10:17 AM
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Jenn, sounds like fun that Mini Milers coaching!!

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2016-04-02 7:28 PM
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30 minutes on the elliptical! Yay! I'm trying things in lieu of running for my back. Starting back slow - want to see how the back handles it. I could have gone for another 30 easily but don't want to crank the back again.
Tomorrow I'll go with the bike again - maybe 45 minutes this time on the roadie.
It felt SO good to go to the gym today and do something!! I have been a caged animal the past week and a half. I'm praying for no increased pain/tightness.
Smiling here!
2016-04-02 9:20 PM
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Juan no you are not the only one. I always feel weak after I do a brick workout!

Ran an unofficial 58:53 in the 10km today. First time ever under an hour!
Week 8 of the 16 week Olympic plan is done. Time for beer and/or whiskey this evening.

-Matt
2016-04-03 12:36 PM
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Alan and Dave Q, where did you guys stay for IMMT? I've been waiting on my SIL to book rooms and everything is going, going, gone!


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IronFit Secrets for the Half-Iron Distance Triathlon Success
Don and Melanie Fink, 2014

Chapter 1--triathlon's most popular distance
This chapter does two basic things, 1.) argues the HIM as the once overlooked distance is now the most popular distance for endurance junkies who want a major endurance challenge, but not perhaps the all-life-encompassing training regimne of the full and 2.) provides 10 tips to be time efficient. I'll list the tips, but most are pretty self-explanatory--none are earth shattering.

1.) train in time, not miles
2.) Take advantage of indoor training options
3.) morning workouts
4.) lunchtime workouts--#3&4 combine under the heading of get it done before life gets in the way
5.) masters swim sessions
6.) the "mom shift" (shifting training weeks to align long workouts and rest days to your individual schedule) --will add here this is one of a couple of different instances in the book where the authors are boarderline sexist, it is called the mom shift because stay at home moms want to do their big workouts on non-weekend days
7.) take power naps
8.) lay out clothes and equipment in advance
9.) be willing to sacrifice perfect for good (i.e. If something comes up and you cant get in a full workout, do what you can--don't wait around trying to squeeze in the full one--it won't happen
10.) commute and complete errands via cycling or running

Chapter 2--The eight essential Half-Iron workouts
This chapter lays out the basic important workouts that are then explained again in chapter 5. I'll list the workouts below, but the explainations were a little remedial. There is good info in this chapter, but I want just a bit more explanation of the science behind their process (but not necessarily as much as the training bible!).

1.) transition sessions (or bricks)
2.) the 4:15-20-45 brick (cycle 4:15 with a 20 min z4 section near the end, followed by. 45 min run)
3.) alternating long and longer runs (thought is it may take longer than a week to recover from the "long" run, so alternate between true long runs and pseudo-long runs)
4.) higher intensity bike and run sessions (incorporate sone z4 work)
5.) cycling hill repeats (even in your chosen course is flat)
6.) swimming--masters if possible, follow their plan if not, do some OWS before race day
7.) high rpm cycling days-- spin at 100+ to improve your cycling technique and aerobic base. Bonus if they are done the day after long run they help leg recovery
8.) strategic rest days/slide days--everyone needs rest to help recover. Slide rest days around to help keep your schedule working, but don't flip the workouts around in the schedule, they were meant to be done in the order written

2016-04-03 8:19 PM
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Juan no you are not the only one. I always feel weak after I do a brick workout!

Ran an unofficial 58:53 in the 10km today. First time ever under an hour!
Week 8 of the 16 week Olympic plan is done. Time for beer and/or whiskey this evening.

-Matt

Strong work matt.

In true BDAS form, you end with celebratory beverages. I like your style.
2016-04-03 8:26 PM
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I had plantar fascia like symptoms in my left heal this week. I canceled my mid week workout, and iced my heal off and on for 3 days. I needed to get my long run in today. I was able to run 13.6 miles today without any symptoms of the plantar acting up! Plus, for the first time in my life, I had a running buddy, which made 13.6 miles go by rather quickly.

Next week is a recovery/taper and I have my first race the following weekend, a 25k trail run. Stuffs starting to happen again.
2016-04-04 1:19 AM
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Congrats Matt! Hope you enjoyed a great malt to celebrate.

Juan
2016-04-04 1:20 AM
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Sounds like a good race Kevin, trail running in Wash State - good luck and get better!

Juan


2016-04-04 1:21 AM
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Jenn, what a wonderful feeling to be back in the plan, isn´t it? Take it slowly and enjoy it!

Juan
2016-04-04 1:32 AM
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Fantastic summary Gretchen, we are gonna learn a lot very quickly this book´s month - THANKS!

Juan

Originally posted by drfoodlove

IronFit Secrets for the Half-Iron Distance Triathlon Success
Don and Melanie Fink, 2014

Chapter 1--triathlon's most popular distance
This chapter does two basic things, 1.) argues the HIM as the once overlooked distance is now the most popular distance for endurance junkies who want a major endurance challenge, but not perhaps the all-life-encompassing training regimne of the full and 2.) provides 10 tips to be time efficient. I'll list the tips, but most are pretty self-explanatory--none are earth shattering.

1.) train in time, not miles
2.) Take advantage of indoor training options
3.) morning workouts
4.) lunchtime workouts--#3&4 combine under the heading of get it done before life gets in the way
5.) masters swim sessions
6.) the "mom shift" (shifting training weeks to align long workouts and rest days to your individual schedule) --will add here this is one of a couple of different instances in the book where the authors are boarderline sexist, it is called the mom shift because stay at home moms want to do their big workouts on non-weekend days
7.) take power naps
8.) lay out clothes and equipment in advance
9.) be willing to sacrifice perfect for good (i.e. If something comes up and you cant get in a full workout, do what you can--don't wait around trying to squeeze in the full one--it won't happen
10.) commute and complete errands via cycling or running

Chapter 2--The eight essential Half-Iron workouts
This chapter lays out the basic important workouts that are then explained again in chapter 5. I'll list the workouts below, but the explainations were a little remedial. There is good info in this chapter, but I want just a bit more explanation of the science behind their process (but not necessarily as much as the training bible!).

1.) transition sessions (or bricks)
2.) the 4:15-20-45 brick (cycle 4:15 with a 20 min z4 section near the end, followed by. 45 min run)
3.) alternating long and longer runs (thought is it may take longer than a week to recover from the "long" run, so alternate between true long runs and pseudo-long runs)
4.) higher intensity bike and run sessions (incorporate sone z4 work)
5.) cycling hill repeats (even in your chosen course is flat)
6.) swimming--masters if possible, follow their plan if not, do some OWS before race day
7.) high rpm cycling days-- spin at 100+ to improve your cycling technique and aerobic base. Bonus if they are done the day after long run they help leg recovery
8.) strategic rest days/slide days--everyone needs rest to help recover. Slide rest days around to help keep your schedule working, but don't flip the workouts around in the schedule, they were meant to be done in the order written


2016-04-04 7:26 AM
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Hey, BDASers.  Just finished a weekend of attempting to relive my youth with a bunch of college buddies as one of them got married.  I've determined that Jamison's is a bad idea.  :-/

Ended my recovery week which had morphed into "doing nothing at all".    Short lunch run today and then swim practice tonight with some weights thrown in.

Happy Monday!

2016-04-04 7:32 AM
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Originally posted by drfoodlove IronFit Secrets for the Half-Iron Distance Triathlon Success Don and Melanie Fink, 2014

I read this book right after it came out...it's pretty good but you'd better be ready for some LOOOOONNNNGGG weekends.  I think you mentioned the 5+ hour transition workout they have you do every week.

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