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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Casey-Very good point on the shallow depth of field shot. I will try your suggestion over the weekend. Thanks for the feedback! Edited by KOM 2010-11-13 11:01 AM |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() No Problem. What you could do is take the rings and place them on something and shoot at an angle so that you have background. Adjust your settings to get them in focus but with the background blurry. You could also try and blurr the foreground. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() out for a walk tonight as the sun was going down. Was thinking about color & lines and tried to shoot in a way that the color captured the mood of the evening. Just had surgery which is affecting my eye- not sure whether these are in focus but figured it would capture the mood I wanted even if they weren't. I walked about an hour so the light changed dramatically from beginning to end (002.jpg) (015.jpg) (006.jpg) (009.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 002.jpg (87KB - 4 downloads) 015.jpg (78KB - 2 downloads) 006.jpg (60KB - 3 downloads) 009.jpg (93KB - 5 downloads) |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I like the contrast in the first photo. The rest make me feel cold. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() agreed with casey, the last few are just cold. I actually did a whole series and made a book senior year of school with a great deal of the photos like the last 3. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() newbz - 2010-11-16 9:18 PM agreed with casey, the last few are just cold. I actually did a whole series and made a book senior year of school with a great deal of the photos like the last 3. Yes, I was thinking it felt like the falling gloom of winter as I walked. I like the winter sunshine but not the dark. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() here are two more like that, first one is like yours at the start of winter, the 2nd, just was cold and erie looking to me http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0ZUEZIE3UME/SwtY3ANni4I/AAAAAAAAA7g/XQwWE... http://bp0.blogger.com/_0ZUEZIE3UME/Ru89IJ5j9OI/AAAAAAAAAYA/8zO2NBt... |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Isn't that second photo a scene out of one of the crime shows on TV???? |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Malgal - 2010-11-16 8:22 PM Isn't that second photo a scene out of one of the crime shows on TV???? looked like a gas chamber to me. Its actaully part of the locker room at denison university where i went to school. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() newbz - 2010-11-17 8:15 AM Malgal - 2010-11-16 8:22 PM Isn't that second photo a scene out of one of the crime shows on TV???? looked like a gas chamber to me. Its actaully part of the locker room at denison university where i went to school. Ugh. It DOES look like a gas chamber.........and evokes a very strong emotion. Awesome picture! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Do you remember the exposure on the first shot? Funny times in locker rooms. I had a friend who in college after practice would slide across the wet floor bare . |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() it was hand held, something in the 1/2 to 1/18th area i think. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() RAW vs JPEG, copied from the other thread: "A JPEG is a compressed image format. When you take a photo your camera puts all those settings you've chosen into the photo (white balance, sharpness, etc), and then compress the file. RAW is another file/image format that cameras use. It is an uncompressed, unprocessed image file that you post process after shooting. Basically all those little steps that the camera add to the image, you do instead in the post software, and it lets you do all the work, and then save it as a separate file so the original is untouched. The reason i say for most applications its a total waste/not needed is that the images/processors on most newer cameras are producing high quality photos that A- dont need the amount of work as some of the older ones, and B- most of the software out there now will allow more than enough adjustments with a JPEG to have a very very high quality image, and the JPEGs are high quality images that are easy to work with. I"m not saying RAW is a waste, it has its places, but for most of us/most things its simply a waste of time. " ^^^^ This from Newbz. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() And.. "Think of a RAW file as a digital negative. Once you take the negative and "develop" it, you end up with a JPG. RAW files are considerably larger than JPG because they hold so much more data. All cameras shoot RAW. If you have your camera set it to JPG, it will convert the photo to JPG on the fly, in the camera and then dispose of the RAW. This conversion is the same thing you can do on your computer. If you're not shooting in RAW (at least sometimes), you're missing a lot IMHO. It's amazing how you can save a RAW file that is improperly exposed, etc. " ^^^ this from Merlin..... |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() The RAW vs JPEG debate is interesting. Guess it comes down to how much post production you want to do? Am I correct in interpreting this? Funny.........I did watercolour paintings for a few years. I think what I am REALLY enjoying about photography so far, in my limited fashion since I do not have a "real" camera as of yet, is the ability to instantly create something beautiful with the press of a button. I love that. As opposed to creating a painting.......which is a laborious , time consuming process. A rewarding one of course, but still...... So for me the idea of extensive post production harkens back to painting......fussing and fussing over the thing. Is it WRONG to want to capture something lovely right off the bat? Or am I being naive? Discuss. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() first to answer the last question, no its not wrong to want something like that the first go round, and a lot of my shooting is done that way with very minimal post work. That said, i love working in photoshop, and done right you can make some images stunning that way (or murder them). The real dif with RAW vs JPEG or other file formats is that with the RAW you are never working from or adjusting the original, the software opens up a copy (creates a JPEG from the RAW file), and you are working on a clean slate. you are not editing the original file from the camera. For a lot of applications, this is simply not needed. For my sports shooting, or anything like that, i'd never shoot in RAW. the files take up a LOT more space, are slower to load, etc. its time consuming, and really just not needed. if i'm doing some work thats going to require a lot of post/i need to squeeze everything out of it i can for sale commercial work, it makes sense. Other areas where RAW files really shine is tough/tricky lighting or high contrast stuff, it allows you to even out or fix highlights and shadows together, etc. Now most newer cameras allow you to shoot with RAW and Jpeg, where it will record one of each. if you have the file space to handle this, its a good way to go (this is what i do with a lot of my work stuff that is not sports). Most of hte time i'll never tough the RAW files, but they are there is you need them. Lastly, if you dont have the software or know how to process the RAW files, they'll do nothing for you, as often when you first open them they look flat and worse than the JPEGs do until you've processed them. Again, they have their place, but you have to do the work after you shoot to bring them out. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() So when I get my "real" camera it will store both RAW and Jpeg? Or do you have to choose one over the other? And speaking of post production......what are the feelings about Lightroom vs Photoshop? No way I would plunk down the $$$$ for the full PS....perhaps just PS Elements. So lets compare PS E with Lightroom? |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() aquagirl - 2010-11-19 1:13 PM So when I get my "real" camera it will store both RAW and Jpeg? Or do you have to choose one over the other? And speaking of post production......what are the feelings about Lightroom vs Photoshop? No way I would plunk down the $$$$ for the full PS....perhaps just PS Elements. So lets compare PS E with Lightroom? My Canon will store files either in JPG format or if I select RAW it stores the RAW file plus a smaller jpg file (which I presume it uses to preview on the camera display) but never both complete RAW and full size jpg. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() aquagirl - 2010-11-19 9:13 AM So when I get my "real" camera it will store both RAW and Jpeg? Or do you have to choose one over the other? And speaking of post production......what are the feelings about Lightroom vs Photoshop? No way I would plunk down the $$$$ for the full PS....perhaps just PS Elements. So lets compare PS E with Lightroom? I use both LR and PS. I like LR because it allows me to quickly batch process a large number of image quickly. But for tweaking an image prior to printing or presenting I use PS because I have so much more control. If your goal for your images is to crop, colour correct, density/contrast adjust, and maybe convert to B&W then LR is all you'll need. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() aquagirl - 2010-11-19 11:13 AM So when I get my "real" camera it will store both RAW and Jpeg? Or do you have to choose one over the other? And speaking of post production......what are the feelings about Lightroom vs Photoshop? No way I would plunk down the $$$$ for the full PS....perhaps just PS Elements. So lets compare PS E with Lightroom? Almost all of them offer a 30 day trial to see if you like it before buying,, I did it for Apature and was surprised how much I disliked it.. Lightroom surprised me since I liked it quite a bit. there are quite a few youtube videos of how to use Lightroom and photoshop... to me it was harder to learn that stuff than the camera |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() agreed with peby all around, and LR also has a MUCH faster learning curve the PS. As far as how your images are taken/stored, it will depend a bit on your camera. Mine offers two image sizes, and quality setting from basic, normal, and fine in JPEG TIFF files (an uncompressed file) RAW And any combination of RAW and JPEG basic, normal, or fine. Some just offer the JPEG options, and RAW with a tiny preview sized JPEG to check it out. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() OK then! Thought Lightroom would make more sense for someone like me... Is there any point in trying the free trial now? While all I have is a point and shoot? Or should I wait until I give in to the DSLR............want to want to want to...... |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() aquagirl - 2010-11-19 1:06 PM OK then! Thought Lightroom would make more sense for someone like me... Is there any point in trying the free trial now? While all I have is a point and shoot? Or should I wait until I give in to the DSLR............want to want to want to...... By all means, start using the trial. That way you can get familiarized with the program while making the DSLR decision. I sometimes use LR for my P&S image processing as I find it so much faster to complete the task. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() agreed with all saying check out lightroom. I cant run any newer version due to an older computer, but that is the first thing i amgetting with the new PC. its an awesome program |
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