BT College Bowl Mania (Page 5)

jacasa - 2012-12-31 9:35 PM

Left Brain - 2012-12-31 10:23 PM

uclamatt2007 - 2012-12-31 6:07 PM

Left Brain - 2012-12-31 2:41 PM

tuwood - 2012-12-31 4:37 PMWTF USC?  That's gonna leave a mark (or lack of a mark in my scoring).  I had USC at 32 pts. 

dude....the pac12 is horrible! They make each other look good.....but it ends there.

To be fair, the Big-10 made the Pac-12 look pretty good in the early going, with a 3-1 out of conference record this season.

For as much as you like to rag on the Pac 12 (rather justifiably honestly), did you happen to notice a Minnesota team that wasn't even a factor in the Big 10 gifting one back to Texas Tech, West Virginia getting spanked by Syracuse (seriously... Syracuse?) and Tulsa running all over Iowa State?

 

Look, you can't use the Big 10 as justification for anything....they're just the best of the worst. The Big 12 and the SEC are really the only conferences in college football today....deal with it.

Still, as bad as the Big 10 also is....watch what Wisconsin does to the pretenders at the football juggernaut known as Standford.  LMAO

There are 2 conferences in college football today....and one of them is barely hanging on. 

The Pac-12 is a complete joke no matter what the polls say....seriously, 4 teams in the top 15??? BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!

 The Big 10 is a mess, but Nebraska and Wisconsin could win the Pac-12 in a cakewalk.    

You know who that leaves.

Carry on.  

Typical case of emotion overtaking logic.

Nice showing by the Big Ten today. HA!!!!

Do not despair.....you have your conference champion against the Pac-12 football powerhouse of Stanford.  You can win that one, right?

I think I'm going to have to rethink this whole deal....the ACC has probably jumped the Big 10 and surely the Patsy-12 from the West coast. 

Left Brain - 2013-01-01 2:52 PM

jacasa - 2012-12-31 9:35 PM

Left Brain - 2012-12-31 10:23 PM

uclamatt2007 - 2012-12-31 6:07 PM

Left Brain - 2012-12-31 2:41 PM

tuwood - 2012-12-31 4:37 PMWTF USC?  That's gonna leave a mark (or lack of a mark in my scoring).  I had USC at 32 pts. 

dude....the pac12 is horrible! They make each other look good.....but it ends there.

To be fair, the Big-10 made the Pac-12 look pretty good in the early going, with a 3-1 out of conference record this season.

For as much as you like to rag on the Pac 12 (rather justifiably honestly), did you happen to notice a Minnesota team that wasn't even a factor in the Big 10 gifting one back to Texas Tech, West Virginia getting spanked by Syracuse (seriously... Syracuse?) and Tulsa running all over Iowa State?

 

Look, you can't use the Big 10 as justification for anything....they're just the best of the worst. The Big 12 and the SEC are really the only conferences in college football today....deal with it.

Still, as bad as the Big 10 also is....watch what Wisconsin does to the pretenders at the football juggernaut known as Standford.  LMAO

There are 2 conferences in college football today....and one of them is barely hanging on. 

The Pac-12 is a complete joke no matter what the polls say....seriously, 4 teams in the top 15??? BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!

 The Big 10 is a mess, but Nebraska and Wisconsin could win the Pac-12 in a cakewalk.    

You know who that leaves.

Carry on.  

Typical case of emotion overtaking logic.

Nice showing by the Big Ten today. HA!!!!

Do not despair.....you have your conference champion against the Pac-12 football powerhouse of Stanford.  You can win that one, right?

I think I'm going to have to rethink this whole deal....the ACC has probably jumped the Big 10 and surely the Patsy-12 from the West coast. 

I am hoping your right and Wisconsin pulls this one out but I am probably not the only one wondering which entry is yours?

Left Brain - 2013-01-01 6:07 PM

jgaither - 2013-01-01 6:00 PMI've gotten every game right today and still lost ground.  I'm going to have go BOLD.  My next move is either going to be really stupid or pure genius!!!!  

Excellent!! Did you pick Okie state over Purdue? That right there is genius enough!!

I had OK St.

My "BIG MOVE" was to go NIU over FSU for 34 points.  It didn't work out.

jgaither - 2013-01-02 7:50 AM

Left Brain - 2013-01-01 6:07 PM

jgaither - 2013-01-01 6:00 PMI've gotten every game right today and still lost ground.  I'm going to have go BOLD.  My next move is either going to be really stupid or pure genius!!!!  

Excellent!! Did you pick Okie state over Purdue? That right there is genius enough!!

I had OK St.

My "BIG MOVE" was to go NIU over FSU for 34 points.  It didn't work out.

Eh....what do I owe you....I can't even look back to see what the bet was I'm so aggravated.  Who knew Alverez was going to revert to the single wing and let the slowest team in a BCS bowl game look like actual contenders?  Still, I'm not going to take away from Stanford's victory over that dinosaur and his 8-6 team.

I swear, if Fllorida State wouldn't have let Northern Illinois Community College actually make a game of it, I'd have to say that they ACC has blown past the Big10.

SEC bias.  The offenses aren't very good in the SEC so they make their defenses look better than they actually are.  Florida is a top 10-ish team, IMO, but they weren't a #3 team.  And I agree with your later post, Georgia should have stayed above Florida.

As far as them looking like thugs, I heard a lot of chatter while Muschamp was at Texas about how immature he was and how he was a great coordinator but was too much like his players to be a head coach just yet.  He just needed a little time to grow up basically.  I saw a little bit of that last night.  His play calls were too risky, they obviously didn't take the cards seriously, and the players seemed to be following his lead with the attitudes on the field.  It looked a little like Jimmy Johnson at Miami, but Muschamp is no Jimmy Johnson.

Yes, but the SEC is the best conference in college football.  It just is.  I know it's not popular among SEC detractors to "make broad sweeping generalizations" but we do it in every sport that has divisions and conferences.  Some are stronger than others.  The SEC is the strongest in college football.

Play that game 6 weeks ago and I bet you get a different outcome.

Still, Louisville looked good....very well prepared and in congtrol of their emotions.  They were the better coached team for this game.

I'm not saying they aren't the best conference in College football.  What I AM saying is that teams in the SEC get a little "benefit of the doubt" by virtue of being in the SEC.  Point being made above, Florida is not a 3# team.  They are around a #5 - #6 team going into the bowl if they're in ANY OTHER conference.  By virtue of being in the SEC they get propped up to #3.  I don't know how you rank Florida ahead of Oregon, I just don't.  I don't know how you rank Florida ahead of Georgia.  Georgia won the head to head for crying out loud!  And you could make a case for K St.  I don't know if I'd buy it........ but you could make one.

And this nonsense of NOT playing in the conference Championship game and then being pushed up ahead of the team that lost the conference championship game has got STOP.  Seriously, that is total crap.

6 weeks ago.  Maybe you're right.  Maybe you're not.  We'll never know, cause they didn't play that game.  What we DO know is that last night in New Orleans, Louisville was the better team.

Nothing to argue with in what you just posted.........damn.

As someone who has been bombarded with UF propaganda for a while and not being a fan of the team per se I can say they were not that great this year.  Their D goes for the big hit (Matt Elam is from about 30 minutes from my house) but doesn't always wrap. 

One characteristic of an SEC team is that they don't give up the big 60+ yard plays that a Big 12 team does.  They play a more conservative Tampa-2 style defense mostly.  So the Cardinals getting a few really long plays was really an anomaly in the SEC.  But Florida has given up quite a few of those this year. 

All that said.  I don't think it's an SEC bias so much as the computer formula does stupid things like factoring in a loss in a championship game.  I actually think the system got all the other bowl games right.  ND and Alabama deserve their spots.  Oregon vs K-State will be great to watch I think.  Rose Bowl was a great matchup.  I just think UGA should've been playing Louisville. 

So wait.... when a Pac-12 team get rolled, it just shows how weak the Pac-12 is. When an SEC team get rolled, its because of 6 off weeks and the other team playing well?

I think the 6-week off plays a role on both games.  But I'd actually think it had more of an impact on UCLA/Baylor than the game last night.

Baylor is a young squad and they have been slowly getting better. 6 weeks of practice after the season they've had was pretty valuable. 

UF had 6 weeks to listen to people tell them how great their Defense is and they didn't take Louisville seriously.  

I disagree on the anomaly part.  That's kind of my point, is that offenses are so average (or below in some cases) in the SEC that when they do play a good offense, they get taken advantage of.  Watch aTm vs OU tomorrow.  That aTm SEC defense will have a tough time against an OU offense.  The defenses are good, don't get me wrong, and the defenses are the best, as a whole, in college football.  I'm just saying they get made out to be better than they really are due to average-below average offenses.

You're right, UGA should have been playing Louisville.  Agree on all other match up  accounts except NIU vs FSU.  It's good to have a BCS buster in there, but that one probably shouldn't have happened.

Baylor is probably the hottest team in College football right now (talking momentum).  Kind of a trap game for UCLA.  Baylor is the LAST team I'd want to play right NOW.  Not saying they could beat anyone out there, just that they are firing on all cylinders and if you've paid attention (which I hadn't until the bowl game) they've been getting better every week.

I don't think so.....that's stil basically a Big 12 matchup. OU will not fool aTm at all.

I agree with you on both counts. There is no excuse for UCLA not showing up in that game, but Baylor really did look great and they are going to be scary next season. They actually managed to generate a pass rush and the rushing game really really came on to complement the passing game in the last 4 games.

Florida is the better team and would probably win 7 out of 10 times against Louisville. I think bowl games are a completely different beast than the regular season. I was just pointing out that some people choose to use them as evidence of league strength when it suits them, and dismiss the results when they disagree.

That said, the banter is with out a doubt one of the best parts of college football.

So who beat Alabama?  A Big 12 team or an SEC team?