Depression and Moods- Check in! (Page 5)
-
No new posts
Moderators: k9car363, alicefoeller | Reply |
|
2008-05-28 8:16 AM in reply to: #1427086 |
Master 1675 Suwanee, Ga. | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! mman - 2008-05-27 7:00 PM My training is on hold right now. My schedule says this is week 2 of my 20 week HIM program. But last week I got a call from my cardiologist saying my heart is getting restricted blood flow at full exercise (I had heart surgery in '74 so went in for a somewhat regular checkup before starting my long distance training). I have a CT scan tomorrow to see where and how bad the blockages are then next week will meet with my doc to see what the treatment plan is. could be anything from "do nothing" to "bypass surgery". At 40 I'm going to be a widower and (potentially) a bypass patient. Good times huh? You were very smart to get checked at least. You are still in our thoughts and prayers. Steve |
|
2008-05-28 9:46 PM in reply to: #1319576 |
Extreme Veteran 1106 , Connecticut | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! mman - god that sucks! How about some yoga just to stay limber? It could lift your mood. Maybe you and your wife could try some easy partner yoga. |
2008-05-29 7:17 PM in reply to: #1319576 |
New user 41 Bay Area, CA | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! I had to get this out there, so please pardon the mess that is about to come. For the past few days I have been in a slump, staying in bed until 2pm, not really eating, just gloomy. Today I had to go back to what I call the Psych Dr. to go over my questions on a Psych test I did for a background test. It was everything I was worried about. He explained that typically everyone is trying to maximize their positive answers while downplaying the negative, while I was the exact opposite; maximizing my negative. I was able to clarify some of the questions, because that darned test was miserable and I just couldn't follow some of the questions. I am a super paranoid person, so when someone gives me the advice for backgrounds to be as honest as possible I take that to the extreme. When asked if I had ever stolen anything I listed every paperclip, post it, and pen I took from work. So the psych test was no different. And essentially the Dr. told me that I came across naive, and that I shouldn't be answering questions this way. There was even a question that I answered true to, that zero percent answered true to that. He asked some very sensitive questions, and of course I end up dropping a few tears (completely pissed at myself for doing that). I felt like I explained most things out to him, but to me it almost felt like excuses for myself. In the end he asked who at the agency I was dealing with, and told me "there shouldn't be any problems." He told me I was an honest girl, a breath of fresh air, and that he liked me very much. But I just cant help but think I have screwed up any chance of a career in my field for good. I'm a little worried that my funk is going to creep up and get worse. I feel a little better getting this out, but I am just worried. If you need me I will be in a supermarket with my OCD organizing the freezer section...sigh
Oh, and I am very sorry for changing the topic. Mman, I send you all my best thoughts and wishes. And coming from someone who has lost someone to cancer, and have had many more battling it, anything I can do to help. My boyfriend's mother battled/battling breast cancer would wear a pin her daughter made her that said "fcuk this cancer " granted the first and last words were something different, but we all loved those pins. I'll gladly send some, or a toned down version you way. |
2008-05-30 8:19 AM in reply to: #1427086 |
Expert 3974 MA | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! mman - 2008-05-27 7:00 PM My training is on hold right now. My schedule says this is week 2 of my 20 week HIM program. But last week I got a call from my cardiologist saying my heart is getting restricted blood flow at full exercise (I had heart surgery in '74 so went in for a somewhat regular checkup before starting my long distance training). I have a CT scan tomorrow to see where and how bad the blockages are then next week will meet with my doc to see what the treatment plan is. could be anything from "do nothing" to "bypass surgery". At 40 I'm going to be a widower and (potentially) a bypass patient. Good times huh? So you had heart surgery when you were 6? Damn! That's tough on a little guy. Pepperee, it sounds like he was manipulating you for some purpose. Maybe to provoke a certain response as a psychological test. Look at it this way... in a true/false situation, it's damn near impossible to get a 100% response one way or the other. You can ask the color of the sky and someone is going to misunderstand the question, or just color in the wrong bubble, or be misaligned on the answer grid, or something making them answer it wrong. That's just human nature. A professional telling you, as someone he has already evaluated as naive, that you have been the only one with a particular response strikes me as manipulative. Now, that's not unprofessional, as he likely had a legitimate purpose, but that's how it looks to me. Edited by chadtower 2008-05-30 8:25 AM |
2008-05-30 8:44 AM in reply to: #1432208 |
Expert 706 Spring (Houston), TX | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! Pepperee - 2008-05-29 7:17 PM I had to get this out there, so please pardon the mess that is about to come. For the past few days I have been in a slump, staying in bed until 2pm, not really eating, just gloomy. Today I had to go back to what I call the Psych Dr. to go over my questions on a Psych test I did for a background test. It was everything I was worried about. He explained that typically everyone is trying to maximize their positive answers while downplaying the negative, while I was the exact opposite; maximizing my negative. I was able to clarify some of the questions, because that darned test was miserable and I just couldn't follow some of the questions. I am a super paranoid person, so when someone gives me the advice for backgrounds to be as honest as possible I take that to the extreme. When asked if I had ever stolen anything I listed every paperclip, post it, and pen I took from work. So the psych test was no different. And essentially the Dr. told me that I came across naive, and that I shouldn't be answering questions this way. There was even a question that I answered true to, that zero percent answered true to that. He asked some very sensitive questions, and of course I end up dropping a few tears (completely pissed at myself for doing that). I felt like I explained most things out to him, but to me it almost felt like excuses for myself. In the end he asked who at the agency I was dealing with, and told me "there shouldn't be any problems." He told me I was an honest girl, a breath of fresh air, and that he liked me very much. But I just cant help but think I have screwed up any chance of a career in my field for good. I'm a little worried that my funk is going to creep up and get worse. I feel a little better getting this out, but I am just worried. If you need me I will be in a supermarket with my OCD organizing the freezer section...sigh
Oh, and I am very sorry for changing the topic. Mman, I send you all my best thoughts and wishes. And coming from someone who has lost someone to cancer, and have had many more battling it, anything I can do to help. My boyfriend's mother battled/battling breast cancer would wear a pin her daughter made her that said "fcuk this cancer " granted the first and last words were something different, but we all loved those pins. I'll gladly send some, or a toned down version you way.
Pepperee, be careful of letting the funk and paranoia get the best of you here. the doc said you were a breath of fresh air and should not have a problem. So you answered differently than most. That's good because you answered honestly. Try to see the positives - they are there even in your post. As an employer, I'd much rather have someone who's honest with issues than dishonest with issues -- and everyone has some issues! ;-) One of the things that I think leads to some of my problems - and to some extent most or all depression - is that we look at ourselves too critically. I've had to work hard over the years to acknowledge the positives in my life. If I couldn't do that, what I'm going through would have caused me to cash in a long time ago. Right now, the only difference between my family and those on Extreme Home Makeover is that I don't live in a run down house. Other than that, we'd qualify for the show. The only thing that has kept me in the game (mentally) is recognizing my strengths: strong character, I can get through this, solid kids, great friends. If I began to list the areas where I'm critical or fearful, this would be a much longer post. When all else around me is crumbing, those are the things I have to remind myself of. Find one positive and repeat it over and over all day. Even if it's just, "There are people on BT who understand and care." Hang in there! |
2008-05-30 8:52 AM in reply to: #1432801 |
Expert 3974 MA | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! mman - 2008-05-30 9:44 AM The only thing that has kept me in the game (mentally) is recognizing my strengths: strong character, I can get through this, solid kids, great friends. Great friends is a big one. I miss having great friends. As we all got older my friends all became sedentary American Idol addicted couch potatoes. I just can't be that person and I can't find patience for that. Even on the rare occasions we all get together, which at this point is once a year at best, I end up running around with the kids while everyone else sits in the corner and complains about the weather and whatever TV show was on that week. We weren't those people in high school but it seems I'm the only one who still isn't. We're not getting any younger! Is it unusual to have anxiety over wasting irretrievable time doing things that aren't worth doing? I find that happening to me more and more as time goes on. Life is short and the concept of wasting any of it is becoming a larger source of anxiety as I get older. |
|
2008-05-30 11:51 AM in reply to: #1432801 |
Master 1675 Suwanee, Ga. | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! mman - 2008-05-30 9:44 AM Pepperee - 2008-05-29 7:17 PM
Pepperee, be careful of letting the funk and paranoia get the best of you here. the doc said you were a breath of fresh air and should not have a problem. So you answered differently than most. That's good because you answered honestly. Try to see the positives - they are there even in your post. As an employer, I'd much rather have someone who's honest with issues than dishonest with issues -- and everyone has some issues! ;-) One of the things that I think leads to some of my problems - and to some extent most or all depression - is that we look at ourselves too critically. I've had to work hard over the years to acknowledge the positives in my life. If I couldn't do that, what I'm going through would have caused me to cash in a long time ago. Right now, the only difference between my family and those on Extreme Home Makeover is that I don't live in a run down house. Other than that, we'd qualify for the show. The only thing that has kept me in the game (mentally) is recognizing my strengths: strong character, I can get through this, solid kids, great friends. If I began to list the areas where I'm critical or fearful, this would be a much longer post. When all else around me is crumbing, those are the things I have to remind myself of. Find one positive and repeat it over and over all day. Even if it's just, "There are people on BT who understand and care." Hang in there! Everything you have said is GREAT advise but those things I have placed in bold are things that I have to deal with and mean so much to me to hear. You are going through things that most of us would cave in with and yet you find the time to come here and offer great advise to others that are struggling. Thank you. Steve |
2008-05-31 12:17 PM in reply to: #1319576 |
Extreme Veteran 1106 , Connecticut | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! CTW, I'm afraid to ask, but how old are you? At 48, I'm starting to feel real old! Need reading glasses, can't lose weight, night sweats/hot flashes! Was getting back into the swing of training and then got that rejection letter for a job I should have gotten!! It really threw me - I am easily thrown into a funk. Still got in three workouts this week and it's not over yet. Edited by MuscleMomma 2008-05-31 12:18 PM |
2008-06-01 7:52 AM in reply to: #1435303 |
Expert 3974 MA | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! MuscleMomma - 2008-05-31 1:17 PM CTW, I'm afraid to ask, but how old are you? At 48, I'm starting to feel real old! Need reading glasses, can't lose weight, night sweats/hot flashes! Are you asking me? I'm in my early 30s. |
2008-06-02 9:58 PM in reply to: #1319576 |
Extreme Veteran 1106 , Connecticut | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! I was afraid you'd be much younger than me! Of course feeling old is a feeling and feelings don't have to match an objective number/age. Checking in - I've been better and I've been worse. Scheduled to do a swim tonight and then husband didn't get home from work in time. Lesson learned - if workout planned at night get something in during day, just in case - and two workouts a day is cool. I hope everyone is doing well. |
2008-06-03 9:02 AM in reply to: #1319576 |
Expert 3974 MA | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! Erf. So, it's in my training blog, but here's the gist: Have a friend that I've been keeping close online tabs with for about 12 years now. Met during a coop online project back then in college and have been IM and email constant since then. Lives probably 1500 miles away. I consider him a close friend even though I've never met him. Haven't heard from him in over a week. Without any notice that's very unusual. I got an IM, from his account, monday morning saying roughly "he had been using my computer, I just wanted to let his friends know he died last week of a heart attack." Nothing else. No response from any email addresses including his work address. He is a really really big guy so this is entirely plausible. After waiting a couple of days for all of the usual methods I'm starting to accept it as true. I have very few real friends and this guy was one. He deserved better. I crosspost here because this is going to be a cycle I have real trouble getting out from. Edited by chadtower 2008-06-03 9:03 AM |
|
2008-06-03 9:52 AM in reply to: #1319576 |
Expert 706 Spring (Houston), TX | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! CT, I'm sorry to hear about your friend. while none are that close, through BT and YoungCancerSpouses.org's forums I have many close friends I've never met. When we lose a spouse on the YCS forums, I grieve for my friends losses even though I didn't know them or their spouse. My heart aches for you too. Grieving is normal. Allow yourself to go through the process. And carry on. I'm sure your friend would've wanted that. To stay motivated, why don't you use your next race to raise money for the American Heart Association in his honor. I hold a triathlon in honor of my wife (see my signature) and it is the most fulfilling, life giving thing I can do. |
2008-06-03 12:02 PM in reply to: #1319576 |
3 | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! So my dad showed me this link and told me i should take some time to read over some of the posts, so i did.. and now i would like to share my problem and ask for any advice that anyone has. I have worked very hard over the past few months to act happy around every one when inside I am so run down and broken. I stopped working out a long time ago because i got sick for a few months and lost a lot of weight, i also have horrible back pain that has also stopped me from having any kind of exercise, i want to get back into training so that i can one day participate in a triathlon with my dad. the problem is, although i have gotten back to a healthy weight, i cannot seem to motivate myself to get up and do even simple things such as going out for a walk. i take my chihuahua for walks but they only last long enough for her to do her business. i was diagnosed with severe depression when i was a freshman in high school, with the help of my parents i was treated medicinally and with therapy, i weaned myself off of the medicine the summer before my senior year and considered myself normal. i suppose that one could say i have relapsed to the way i used to be. It only took about a year for me to fall back into my sad little hole that took years to crawl out of. I don't want to be on more medicine, i want less medicine. I don't want a therapist picking apart everything i do like my old one did.. i just want to feel better and i know that exercise can help, does anyone have any advice on ways to motivate myself to just get out and begin my training again? |
2008-06-03 12:17 PM in reply to: #1441690 |
Expert 706 Spring (Houston), TX | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! gir' - 2008-06-03 12:02 PM So my dad showed me this link and told me i should take some time to read over some of the posts, so i did.. and now i would like to share my problem and ask for any advice that anyone has. I have worked very hard over the past few months to act happy around every one when inside I am so run down and broken. I stopped working out a long time ago because i got sick for a few months and lost a lot of weight, i also have horrible back pain that has also stopped me from having any kind of exercise, i want to get back into training so that i can one day participate in a triathlon with my dad. the problem is, although i have gotten back to a healthy weight, i cannot seem to motivate myself to get up and do even simple things such as going out for a walk. i take my chihuahua for walks but they only last long enough for her to do her business. i was diagnosed with severe depression when i was a freshman in high school, with the help of my parents i was treated medicinally and with therapy, i weaned myself off of the medicine the summer before my senior year and considered myself normal. i suppose that one could say i have relapsed to the way i used to be. It only took about a year for me to fall back into my sad little hole that took years to crawl out of. I don't want to be on more medicine, i want less medicine. I don't want a therapist picking apart everything i do like my old one did.. i just want to feel better and i know that exercise can help, does anyone have any advice on ways to motivate myself to just get out and begin my training again? Welcome to BT and to the group. One thing that I've found helps with my energy (not necessarily motivation) is to take a B Complex vitamin. I take a Performance Multi-vitamin but that doesn't do what a B Complex does. With more energy, I'm more motivated to do the stuff I need too. Depression can zap the energy from you, so you might try this. Also, supposedly fish oil supplements help with depression and help burn fat. So you might consider adding that to your diet as well. You've got nothing to lose. As far as motivation, find a race, fun run or something to sign up for then train for that. It doesn't have to be big - just something you'd like to do. Or, go do a charity walk. The other thing I've found is when I won't do something for myself, if I do something for others it will get me moving. |
2008-06-03 2:15 PM in reply to: #1319576 |
Expert 3974 MA | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! Frankly, I'd consider going back on the medication. One of the biggest mistakes people make is thinking that since they feel better they don't need the meds anymore. If you were doing well and were happy on the meds, why fight that? It worked, right? Now that you're out of high school do what you can to be stable right now. Trust me, if you don't, someday soon you'll be sitting there on your 30th birthday wondering where your 20s went. Life happens FAST once you're a grownup. |
2008-06-04 11:16 AM in reply to: #1319576 |
3 | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! Thank you for your support, I had a bit of a hard time posting my problem in an area that my Dad could see, just because I don't want to let him down. this actually could not have happened at a better time, i had just told my Mom what was really going on with me but I asked her to not tell my Dad because I didn't know how he would react. So far so good. i will deffinitely try supplementing a B vitamin into my diet, I do not eat a lot of red meat therefore I am sure that could be part of the problem. As far as getting back on medication for now at least I intend to attempt to solve my problems without meds, due to my back problems and migraines the doctors have already (in my opinion) overmedicated me, I'm always tired and I "zone out" at random times. If by the time my back is better and I dont have to take so much medicine I am still having emotional difficulties I will consider medication.. I would deffinitely appreciate also any tips of overcoming middle and lower back pain. I feel that because I live in so much pain that could be part of what is bringing me down. |
|
2008-06-04 11:20 AM in reply to: #1441690 |
Champion 23360 Taser-World | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! gir' - 2008-06-03 1:02 PM So my dad showed me this link and told me i should take some time to read over some of the posts, so i did.. and now i would like to share my problem and ask for any advice that anyone has. I have worked very hard over the past few months to act happy around every one when inside I am so run down and broken. I stopped working out a long time ago because i got sick for a few months and lost a lot of weight, i also have horrible back pain that has also stopped me from having any kind of exercise, i want to get back into training so that i can one day participate in a triathlon with my dad. the problem is, although i have gotten back to a healthy weight, i cannot seem to motivate myself to get up and do even simple things such as going out for a walk. i take my chihuahua for walks but they only last long enough for her to do her business. i was diagnosed with severe depression when i was a freshman in high school, with the help of my parents i was treated medicinally and with therapy, i weaned myself off of the medicine the summer before my senior year and considered myself normal. i suppose that one could say i have relapsed to the way i used to be. It only took about a year for me to fall back into my sad little hole that took years to crawl out of. I don't want to be on more medicine, i want less medicine. I don't want a therapist picking apart everything i do like my old one did.. i just want to feel better and i know that exercise can help, does anyone have any advice on ways to motivate myself to just get out and begin my training again? Is there any history of thyroid issues in your family? Have you ever had your thyroid tested? There's a correlation between thyroid function and depression symptoms. And weight fluctuations may be a part of this too. You may want to do some internet searches to find out more about this. Good luck! Just saw this too: I do not eat a lot of red meat therefore I am sure that could be part of the problem. You may also want to discuss a blood test for ferritin levels. Edited by D001 2008-06-04 11:22 AM |
2008-06-04 5:10 PM in reply to: #1441009 |
Expert 3974 MA | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! chadtower - 2008-06-03 10:02 AM After waiting a couple of days for all of the usual methods I'm starting to accept it as true. I have very few real friends and this guy was one. He deserved better. I'm starting to get a little nervous about this now. I'm going down fast - I guess I've finally accepted this - and it is actually having a substantial physical effect. All the usual stuff that comes with sudden depression but stonger and faster than usual. I can't do this right now - my wife is working two jobs and finishing her internship, my kids are finishing up their school year, and I am 6 weeks out from my first tri. I can't do this right now. |
2008-06-04 5:28 PM in reply to: #1445664 |
Expert 706 Spring (Houston), TX | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! chadtower - 2008-06-04 5:10 PM chadtower - 2008-06-03 10:02 AM After waiting a couple of days for all of the usual methods I'm starting to accept it as true. I have very few real friends and this guy was one. He deserved better. I'm starting to get a little nervous about this now. I'm going down fast - I guess I've finally accepted this - and it is actually having a substantial physical effect. All the usual stuff that comes with sudden depression but stonger and faster than usual. I can't do this right now - my wife is working two jobs and finishing her internship, my kids are finishing up their school year, and I am 6 weeks out from my first tri. I can't do this right now.My wife was seeing a counselor one time when she was down (pre cancer - just a rough time of life). She had found a real friend in Tulsa but couldn't in Dallas. He told her that most people only have 2 or 3 real friends in their lives and guys are worse because we don't let anyone close enough to be a real friend. It sounds like you've done pretty well. I was also recently reading of a phenomenon where people think everyone else has more than they do: money, sex, drinks/week, etc. So you may be feeling like everyone else has lots of real friends but you don't. My wife has talked to other women, and none of the men have any 'real friends'. They've all got beer drinking buddies, training buddies, etc., but none that they'd call a real friend. What you are going through is difficult. Try to not make it more difficult by thinking you are missing something everyone else has. The fact that you had him as a real friend is huge. So is the loss. Try to not let the grief destroy you. You have too much that is good in your life; a wife finishing internship, kids home for the summer, your first tri, and my ramblings ;-) |
2008-06-04 6:00 PM in reply to: #1319576 |
Expert 3974 MA | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! It's a good point. Thanks. I also need to call the doctor tomorrow because my left ear has been bothering me for quite some time. Right now it feels like there is playdoh in it and I am having trouble hearing out of it. Probably just needs a strong flushing. May as well get that off the playfield while I deal with everything else. I'm struggling right now to find the energy to do some raw conditioning work tonight. I need as much as I can get this month before the sprint in July... tonight, all I have is the elliptical, since the wife is at work and I can't go anywhere outside the house. |
2008-06-05 2:09 PM in reply to: #1319576 |
Veteran 201 Chilliwack B.C | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! Hi gir, I too recommend satying with the meds. I fought them all my life and not taking them has never worked for me. Of course that is me and we are all a little diffferent. When on the meds I feel fine and after a while think why am I taking these, plus they also make me tired, and I too zone out. You take Remeron by chance? Thats what I take. Anyway I guess I have learned that I have to take them otherwise I basically end up shutting down, and can't get the motivation to do the simplist things. It also affects my wife when I don't take my pills. So quite often I take them for her. I have lost relationships in the past due to depression and I don't want it to happen again. |
|
2008-06-09 9:58 AM in reply to: #1319576 |
Expert 3974 MA | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! A number of the folks in this thread have stopped logging any training... are people all right? |
2008-06-09 10:12 AM in reply to: #1319576 |
Expert 1099 Orlando, FL | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! Chad - thanks for checking in on all of us - I've been wondering how everyone is doing, too. Seems like times when seasons/life changes are particularly difficult for me to adjust to. I am off all meds now, and had some wicked zoloft withdrawal going on, even now get some zings on occasion. The best thing for me for all my stuff is to work out, but often it's the last thing I feel motivated to do. I'm sneaking some stuff in by fixing up my mtb as a commuter bike and riding it for short errands. I tell myself it's to save gas and money, but mostly for saving sanity. Also try to get the dog out for a walk here and there. Best of all, I found a new person to help me release some of my old stuff - I can't really explain what she does in words very well, but it's a combination of cranial-sacral, massage, yoga, breathing, meditation, fitness training, and regular therapy and it seems to 'click' with me right now. Basically, she teaches me how to do the release work inside myself. I've got a big issue just hanging here waiting like a boil to be popped open and drained out. Been holding it for 7 years, and now it's time. I expect a bumpy ride. So glad you all are here to check in with - I know you won't be too irritated if the laundry and dishes don't get done, or the lawn mowed, for awhile.... How's everyone else? |
2008-06-09 10:35 AM in reply to: #1319576 |
Expert 3974 MA | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! Heat is making training difficult here. And the main straightaway on my usual bike route has snapping turtles on it right now. Saw a 15" snapper yesterday big enough to take meat off your leg. It's great. 96 degree runs and actual Nintendo style enemies along the route. By the time my first race comes along I should be Hard as concrete. |
2008-06-09 11:11 AM in reply to: #1319576 |
Expert 1158 Chicagoland | Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in! Like to say I am doing well but I'm not. Out of cymbalta and the withdrawal is taking me to a new low. Feeling dumb, insignificant and just out of it. I am snapping at my 3 year old and ignoring my wife. But the best part is I have a sprint this Sunday and i have swam maybe three times this year so it will be a disaster. But enough of the whining, I guess things could be worse! |
|