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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mbeall2 - 2009-12-27 11:21 AM So, my question becomes, should I attempt to do the earlier one(shorter one) and try the slightly longer one 6 weeks later? I think that six weeks between triathlons is plenty of time. I think that you will gain a lot of experience between the two races and you will be able to apply that newfound knowledge in your ‘A’ race. There is nothing wrong with riding an older road bike (or even fat tire) in your races. It is nice to have a new bike and it could motivate you to train more but it is definitely not necessary. I would say that adding aero bars is not even needed in your first few races. I added aero bars to my road bike and it may have added (don’t know for sure) a little bit of speed but it made the bike much harder to handle. A lot of weight shifted up front and the bike was not as stable. I would hold off and just make sure that your bike is in good and safe working condition. Besides, if and when you want to upgrade your bike your will probably want to go for something a little higher up in the components – not that there is anything wrong with the bike you are looking at. My first road bike (also on that site) was a Scott Speedster 60 – the cheapest road bike I could find. That bike served me well for many years and thousands of miles. In fact I still have the bike and I want to change it into a single speed bike. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() microspawn - 2009-12-27 6:40 AM Hey KC – Wow – 11,500 + cycling miles in 2009. That is HUGE! Also, I guess I am doing it backwards from you. I finished at ironman this year and now I am training for a marathon (I want to qualify for Boston). I did read the Total Immersion book and I think it helped. It took me from a really bad swimmer to an average swimmer. It allowed for me to correct my buoyancy and form in the water. But that is where I think the book stops – it really focuses on long slow glides and being efficient in the water. That actually worked well for me in the ironman swim. I should not say this but the swim portion of my ironman was a little boring – granted I was not burning up the course (1:15) but I got out of the water feeling almost refreshed. Nothing like the hard repeats in the pool when you can’t even lift your arms to wash your hair in the shower. If interested - My swim race report from Ironman Louisville - http://hubcitytri.blogspot.com/2009/08/ironman-louisville-race-repo... Running: I took Christmas day off from the run and just rode the trainer. I have been trying to build my cycling base up – this has been a lot of steady state riding at moderately / low intensity. I also rode the trainer the day after Christmas but I was ready to hit the pavement. I am trying to make most of my running miles count – no garbage miles. Having read a number of books they always seem to state that there are really only three runs that push improvement. 1. Hard Intervals at or above VO2MAX – example Yasso 800’s or ¼ miles or mile repeats. 2. Tempo runs at or just above LT (lactate threshold / anaerobic threshold – your maximum intensity that you can hold for about an hour). 3. Distance runs – long runs at a steady pace Everything else is supposed to be extraneous – although if you talk to anyone that is fast they will tell you that there is no substitute for mileage. Go figure. I am going to have to agree wildly with the crowd that advocates distance/doing more running to get faster. fo two years i did the 3 run focus, now and again running a bit more. i went from a 24 min 5k to a 21 min or so. sat there for another year or so. this past year i started running consistantly. starting around 20miles a week or so. this fall after my last race, i took 6 weeks off, and started running almost daily in mid oct. dec 14th i ran a 5k off of an ave of 23miles per week or so. ran a 17:45 on a HILLY course in pouring rain. no speed work at all. highest week was 34 miles so far, lowest in thre was 18. just running a pace that would let me get out and run almost every day. right now i am working up to 40-50mpw and cannot wait to see how speeds improve from here. in short, anything over 400m is going to require a big aerobic base to get faster, and there is no substitute for milage for that. the issue i think a lot of people run into is they think they need more speed, when honestly what they lack is endurance. the more you run (or bike), the more efficiant your body is going to become. adding more milage/running daily, your easy pace will gradually drop over time. so if easy pace two years ago was 9min pace, you run 4-7 times a week over two years, the new easy pace is 7 min. all paces aside from sprint speeds will keep dropping with this. then, ONCE you have a good base built up, add in a BIT of speed work, and you will see some nice gains from it. do it off of little milage, and a much smaller base, and aside from the increased injury risk, you may as well just be doing the easy runs because your body is not going to make the adaptions it would off more milage + speed. most of us will keep getting a lot faster on simply doing hte milage without any faster work for a long time, but most epople cannot handle it being that simple and try to add more had running than they ever should. As for the bike choice, i'll take a look at the link in a min. but i would say get the bike you have checked out/tuned up if it needs it and start on that, see what you think of hte sport, and go from there. people race on anything from BMX bikes, single speeds, old mountain bikes up to bikes that cost the same as a car KC, very nice totals for the year! for everyone else that has been training this year, what do your numbers look like? would be fun to post them up and then maybe some goals for 2010 numbers. so far for 2009: all but a tiny bit of the swim and bike took place from jan to sept. and no training at all realls in oct. Swim: 345,400 yards swim (good swimming year for me:-) an some good swim PRs Bike: 206 hours, faster on the bike this year but numbers not up much from last year. Run: 833 miles. some good PRs, first time i have not been hurt running in a long time. 2010 goals: Swim: up in the air on this. if i dont start enjoying swimming here shortly i am going to do enough to get through the few tris i need to do and make the switch to duathlon for a bit. otherwise would like to hit around 320-350k for the year again. seemed like a good balance for me. Bike: this and the run need to go up. looking to get in closer to 300-350 hours this year. Run: goal for 2010 is to hit 2000 miles or so and get the run times DOWN to match up with the other two sports |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() if you are worried/nervous about hte open water swim i would keep working on the swim now and do the tri and not the du for the early race. it will let you get a bit more practice in and know what ot expect. that said i love duathlons, they are a blast and a nice change from tris in that therei s very little that needs to go to the race, and less to worry about/have to set up! |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() David, Here are my totals for running and cycling year to date: |
Edited by KCinTampa 2009-12-27 12:07 PM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Here are my numbers for this past year. I want to double my run mileage in 2010. I am also looking at a goal of 1200 miles on the bike and 80,000 yards swimming. I think those are all attainable goals.
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Here are my BT totals for the year.I will have to check my Runners World log for the rest of my running and a few miles for cycling are on the too.
Runners World - Run 261 miles Bike 543.8 Run Totals = 417 miles Bike Total = 1175 miles (plus many unaccounted for miles because I didn't have a cyclo comp. until Christmas) swim Totals = 78850 yds (started 9-14-09) My mileage for the run would have been much larger if I had not injured myself training for the marathon. I did not run much in June or July and then had to completely stop running for August and September due to the injury. This had a good affect in some ways because had I not injured myself running I would not be looking at doing Tri's right now, but to be honest that would not have bothered me. I had a year planned to get my run ready for my first marathon and was doing a slow progression toward that goal (marathon goal 3:40-ish). I injured my knee in Dec, sugery in Feb, re-injured in May. PT for a while now back onto the rhythm. Goals for 2010 Swim 250,000 yards Bike 3000 Miles Run 900 Miles I think all of these are pretty attainable provided I don't have injuries or work related interferences. Really looking forward to next year's training. Oh yeah, I didn't start riding a bike until early June but I wasn't riding to far or very long until I got road bike. Edited by DirkP 2009-12-28 7:03 AM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() as you guys are putting you your totals think about what you do with those miles/hours. are you using the time well, are you simply going out to get in time, trying to fit in more or less? something to do that can help a lot is to sit down, figure out how much you want to train (or how you like to train, and look at the hours you have to actually do it. if you want to get faster, but are time limeted, the bike and swim more so than running offer a great chance to put in more quality work vs distance. if you are training for longer stuff, most people overlook speed work and jsut go long and slow. so in edition to numbers think about how you are spending the time. to throw out another fav quote, from the old speedo adds: "its not how far you swim, its not how fast you swim, its how far you swim fast" most of our training is like that within reason. make sure there is a point to your workouts, and they are working towards something vs just going out (if your goal is to get faster). if you just want to go train for the sake of training thats ok too! sorry was on a roll tonight! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Good morning group, Man, take a few days off and look at you go. Heck I have not had the time to introduce myself. So here goes: Name: Chris (chrisrunzs26) Strengths: My biking is pretty Ok, my swim...well, I won't drown and my running is just not great. Weight: I have lost over 100lbs in the last 5 yrs and am working at getting rid of that last 20-25 lbs. Races for 2010: The American TTT in Ohio (I have done this 3 yrs) and hopefully the new one in NC. Took about 3-4 months off and just now back into training, actually re-started seriously yesterday. I'll try to keep up with you speedy folks. Off to run in the flurries. Chris |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Since we are posting our times and training here are mine, as you can see I really slacked off last year:
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() You mentioned some planning for my work outs. I def. need to do some planning for the swim and bike. I know what I want to do for the run and can plan accordingly but it's the other 2 disciplines that I have to do some learning. And since I am new to Tri's and haven't done one yet I am not exactly sure how to approach putting it all together. I assume I can put everything together in a similar fashion as the run but to get faster I don't have the time to get 3 workouts for each. |
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Here are my totals, sort of, for 2009. I did not start using this log until June and did not record all of my training here so they are not completely accurate. I raced in 7 tri's and a few 5 and 10K's last year, and don't have a very good picture of what my training was really like. I hear what David is saying about training with a purpose. This week starts my official 20 week HIM training for Florida 70.3. I have my plan set and will keep better records in order to see what I am accomplishing. The way I see it, I am missing time with my family to train , so I better make the training count. I want 2010 to be full of QUALITY workouts. I will train smarter and not train just to get in the time. Happy Holidays to everyone. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() craig0812 - 2009-12-28 8:13 AM The way I see it, I am missing time with my family to train , so I better make the training count. I want 2010 to be full of QUALITY workouts. I will train smarter and not train just to get in the time. Happy Holidays to everyone. Thats what I am trying to accomplish too. I have several other commitiments I need to keep up with too, so I need to be all about the quality. I just started doing Tri training and I am already making my wife nervous about all my training time. I better not push it with her, if you know what I mean. "If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy." Truth be told its the other way around in my house, but let's just keep that a secret. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DirkP - 2009-12-28 8:32 AM craig0812 - 2009-12-28 8:13 AM The way I see it, I am missing time with my family to train , so I better make the training count. I want 2010 to be full of QUALITY workouts. I will train smarter and not train just to get in the time. Happy Holidays to everyone. Thats what I am trying to accomplish too. I have several other commitiments I need to keep up with too, so I need to be all about the quality. I just started doing Tri training and I am already making my wife nervous about all my training time. I better not push it with her, if you know what I mean. "If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy." Truth be told its the other way around in my house, but let's just keep that a secret. The way I approach it is I will now have to wake up early and train before work and utilize my lunch time for training. I try to show the wife that I'm sacrificing some of my "free time" as well so as not to take away too much time from her and the kids. She is a runner so I also make sure to give her the time she needs for her training. When she's happy, we're all happy. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() craig0812 - 2009-12-28 9:04 AM DirkP - 2009-12-28 8:32 AM craig0812 - 2009-12-28 8:13 AM The way I see it, I am missing time with my family to train , so I better make the training count. I want 2010 to be full of QUALITY workouts. I will train smarter and not train just to get in the time. Happy Holidays to everyone. Thats what I am trying to accomplish too. I have several other commitiments I need to keep up with too, so I need to be all about the quality. I just started doing Tri training and I am already making my wife nervous about all my training time. I better not push it with her, if you know what I mean. "If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy." Truth be told its the other way around in my house, but let's just keep that a secret. The way I approach it is I will now have to wake up early and train before work and utilize my lunch time for training. I try to show the wife that I'm sacrificing some of my "free time" as well so as not to take away too much time from her and the kids. She is a runner so I also make sure to give her the time she needs for her training. When she's happy, we're all happy. Work is already too early for me. I have to be at work by 6 AM and don't get off until 4:30 and I only get a 20 minute lunch. Not much time to get anything done with those hours. I figure if I tried to get any more early in the mornings I would need to go to bed that much earlier and be away from family anyway. Plus if I got up any earlier on a routine basis I would be divorced anyway (no one would want to be around me). I wish my wife would do something like running or anything. this would give us some "hang time" and she would get some exercise to boot. She is not very motivated. She started the couch to 5k once and got 2 workouts in before she quit. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() newbz - 2009-12-28 12:10 AM EDIT - "its not how far you swim, its not how fast you swim, its how far FAST you swim fast" That is one of my favorite quotes also - I use it all of the time. Wow - you went from a 24+ 5K to 17's? Impressive. I'm trying to get into the 18's right now (current PR 19:09). My totals (September, October, November were way off my averages - from Jan - Sept I averaged 400+ biking and 100 + running and 25,000 yards + swimming per month) - also once my big races were over I stopped recording everything - it was a mistake: 2009 totals Bike: 247h 49m 14s - 4429.58 Mi Run: 143h 26m 20s - 990.09 Mi (I'll easily get 1000) Swim: 76h 31m 30s - 231014 Yd Strength: 42h 00m KC - you killed everyone on the mileage!!! Good job! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() dirk, that is a rough swim workout to do after a 500! and really a hard one anytime (i hate 200s!!!). try backing down a bit and doing a few less, but getting through them strong, and then over time slowly add in another set (ie do 5 or 6x 200 now, next week do 7, and so forth). as you get stronger you will be sowly working up the distances, but also getting faster so the effort level should stay about the same. The bike workouts will vary a bit based on your race distance goals, and how much time you have. if you are short on time, and racing shorter stuff, your training is actually going to be pretty easy. two rides a week (a 3rd would be good). something like this, warm up as needed. 1 ride: Vo2/20 min power intervals, these are shorter, hard workouts. start around now with something like 10x1min on, 1 min off. or 1 min on, 30 sec off. you can mix it up workout to workout, 10x2min, 10x3, 10x:45, etc, just pay attention to keeping the format similar (exact times done matter much). between now and your races, gradually up the time of these until yo uaround 2-4min per interval. at the same time slowly upping in amount of intervals you do. 10x1 min now, 12x1 min next week, etc. 2: threshold ride. early in the year this will look a lot like the above workout, but will slowly change. right now it will look something like 5-8 x3 min, on shorter rest (say 1 min or so). as the weeks go by, you want to slowly cut the number of reps, but up the time per interval (keeping shorter rest). so a few weeks from now it would look more like 3-4x5 min, then 2-3x 10, with the end goal of getting to 2x20 min. (once you lengthen them out you can back up and do some shorter intervals, but thats the general format you are looking to hold onto). what this will do is slowly build up the speed you can hold over the 20 min to 1 hour range. outside of those two workouts. the more you can ride the better off you will be, even if not every week anytime you can get out, even for 30 min at a time, will help. if you can bump it to three days a week, keep that third ride a bit harder than steady if you can, or make it a longer ride. On the run front: yes i went from a 24 min to 17 range. i went from 24 down to around 20 pretty quickly, without much focus or steay training (i think part of that was just being young, athletic, and getting in any running). from there i stayed aroun 20 for a while. i tried adding in more speed and hard running, knocked off 14 sec and got hurt for two months. got back to running, pretty much followed the same track again (it was around this time i started working on and off with coaches and learned a TON). over the next two years, '08 and '09. i started running more consistantly, not even wildly high milage, just spreading it out a bit more, trying to run more days per week. prob ave 30mpw over the season this year, 25 ish last year when i could run (two stupid non training injuries slowed that down). my run times started droping like a rock. i lowered my 5k triathlon run pace by close to a min per mile in that time. open times are still goign down fast. that 17:40 i ran was my first open 5k in a while, and was off not much training. and about 3 harder runs, the rest were just easy/steady runs. i dont really plan on adding in speedwork until the milage is up over 45mpw or so. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() microspawn - 2009-12-28 7:26 AM newbz - 2009-12-28 12:10 AM EDIT - "its not how far you swim, its not how fast you swim, its how far FAST you swim fast" That is one of my favorite quotes also - I use it all of the time. Wow - you went from a 24+ 5K to 17's? Impressive. I'm trying to get into the 18's right now (current PR 19:09). My totals (September, October, November were way off my averages - from Jan - Sept I averaged 400+ biking and 100 + running and 25,000 yards + swimming per month) - also once my big races were over I stopped recording everything - it was a mistake: 2009 totals Bike: 247h 49m 14s - 4429.58 Mi Run: 143h 26m 20s - 990.09 Mi (I'll easily get 1000) Swim: 76h 31m 30s - 231014 Yd Strength: 42h 00m KC - you killed everyone on the mileage!!! Good job! this is not for everyone, and totally bepends on your goals outside of triathlon/running, but losing a lot of the weight/upper body muscle i had when i started training did wonders for running and being able to run more without getting hurt. i started tris around 160 and a decent about of muscle from rowing (i'll see if i can find a photo from then and now). i'm sitting around 150 now, a LOT less upper body, and that has helped running faster a lot. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() newbz - 2009-12-28 12:32 PM dirk, that is a rough swim workout to do after a 500! and really a hard one anytime (i hate 200s!!!). try backing down a bit and doing a few less, but getting through them strong, and then over time slowly add in another set (ie do 5 or 6x 200 now, next week do 7, and so forth). as you get stronger you will be sowly working up the distances, but also getting faster so the effort level should stay about the same. I just finished another swim workout and it felt pretty good. I am with you David, the 50's are much much better than the 200's. I was suckin wind after each set but it was still a lot better knowing I was only swimming a 50 again and not the 200. Question: With some of the atrophy in my left leg I have been kicking only with my left leg for 50 then both 50 and repeat for 200 to develop the left leg strength (doing this with fins). Do you think this is advisable? There is a noticeable differance in muscle mass between my legs (albeit not a huge diff.) and I would like to equalize them or get as close as possible. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() i started tris around 160 and a decent about of muscle from rowing (i'll see if i can find a photo from then and now). i'm sitting around 150 now, a LOT less upper body, and that has helped running faster a lot. I come from a bodybuilding background and started training for tri's last year at 230 lbs. I am now down to 193ish. I can tell a huge dfifference in my training performance. I am still a lot bigger than a lot of the other athletes in tri's and especially at the stand alone running races. I am now going to focus on dropping some more weight with the ramped up training volume. It sucks in a way because it took me years to build my upper body and now I am trying to break it down. I feel much better overall though and now I know I am a much more healthy person at 37 than I was at 27. It has also got my 6 year old daughter interested in running and triathlons so it's worth it. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() david - this is not for everyone, and totally bepends on your goals outside of triathlon/running, but losing a lot of the weight/upper body muscle i had when i started training did wonders for running and being able to run more without getting hurt. i started tris around 160 and a decent about of muscle from rowing (i'll see if i can find a photo from then and now). i'm sitting around 150 now, a LOT less upper body, and that has helped running faster a lot. craig - I come from a bodybuilding background and started training for tri's last year at 230 lbs. I am now down to 193ish. I can tell a huge dfifference in my training performance. I am still a lot bigger than a lot of the other athletes in tri's and especially at the stand alone running races. I am now going to focus on dropping some more weight with the ramped up training volume. It sucks in a way because it took me years to build my upper body and now I am trying to break it down. I feel much better overall though and now I know I am a much more healthy person at 37 than I was at 27. It has also got my 6 year old daughter interested in running and triathlons so it's worth it. I would not say that I am / was a bodybuilder but I carry a little more upper body mass than most of the fast guys that I train with - being at age 37 I am reluctent to give up much lean body mass knowing that in the coming years it will be so much harder to add any lean muscle. It is hard to add lean muscle mass as it is - I just try to maintain what I have. Knowing that as we age we will naturally lose lean body weight - I know that the more you go in with the more / longer you get to keep it. It is a double edged sword. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() the muscle mass really is very two sided, and you need to take your goals in this sport, in life, health all into account when you look at it. for me my main goal is to do everthing i can to go as fast as possible on race day. my schedule, jobs, etc are set up around that. i'm young enough that worrying about body mass is not a huge issue for me. someone else that is a bit older, has a family/other activities does (and rightly should) be looking at this a lot differently. dirk, i would keep trying to kick evenly with both legs and understand it will take the one a bit logner to catch up. by not kicking, or just with one leg you are going to develope some bad habits that will be harder to break down the road. maybe a bit of extra lifting/work on that leg could help bring it back up with the other? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() newbz - 2009-12-28 3:33 PM dirk, i would keep trying to kick evenly with both legs and understand it will take the one a bit logner to catch up. by not kicking, or just with one leg you are going to develope some bad habits that will be harder to break down the road. maybe a bit of extra lifting/work on that leg could help bring it back up with the other? It makes sense that I might be starting bad habits by kicking with one leg and that's why I was trying to alternate between 50's. I will take your advice and continue to kick with both throughout my workouts. I know tkaing more time to lift with that leg would help too but time is one of the biggest hinderances that keeps me from it. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Oh wow... I need to cath up! Been busy spreading holiday cheer! Been busy training too; got in a 56 mile bike ride yesterday on my upcoming HIM race route. I took it somewhat slow, but this was a new distance for me (avg 15.5). I could have done a little better, but honestly, not by much. It was windy and flat; therefore non-stop pedaling. I felt good up until about mile 30 and hung on until mile 45. The last 10 miles were un-fun. I hope to go back and do the course once a month up until the race and later add some bricks. Now I need to go back and read what I've missed! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I've also been super busy with family and holidays and stuff, hence the silence. My background is mostly swimming and some biking, so I'm taking the running much slower. No totals for now, and I have no clue what the goals will be for 2010. Mostly, the plan is to get my training workouts in consistently, no distance or time goals, really. I just want to finish and not die in the process. I was wondering if it's normal to come out of the swim feeling refreshed. I haven't been keeping an active log (which I'll try to do now that I'm specifically training for a tri), but my distances have been from 1000 - 1500 m, and although the swim is definitely hard to finish as I get more tired towards the end, it's nothing compared to the end of bike or run workout. As soon as I get out of the water, I feel refreshed. Even after finishing a set after which I'm breathing pretty heavily, I feel that after a 10-minute break, I could probably keep going. Am I not pushing myself hard enough? Should I increase my pace? How do you guys feel after swims? |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() take this for what its worth, i dont come from a swimming background (started swimming with triathlon 4 years ago). how long has it been since you were swimming seriously (or have you been since highschool/college) ? if its been a while and you are just getting back into it that could play a part, in that you just need to get back into swimming form before you can really push it. could also be you are doing sets that are not hard for you anymore (ie been swimming for a while but never upped the distances/paces/something like that) third option, you should just be swimming harder. after harder swim workouts i feel pretty flattened. nothing really hurts but i am tired, a bit sore. running should NOT feel like that most of the time. if you want to get faster, and are newer to running (this applies to everyone though), you should be finishing most runs feeling good, like you could have done a bit more. you should be able to talk through most of your runs without issue, and in fact most people are doing too much of their running too hard. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- since i see this asked a lot, i'l go ahead and explain it (the running slower theory). Running slower to get faster- Its not that running slower on its own is the best way to get faster. but rather running more is, and in order to run more, you need to tone your workouts back to a point where no single run is impacting the next. in otherwords each workout is done at a level that lets you go out for the next one (whether thats 4 hours later, the next day, whatever). No single workout if going to make you much faster, its the consistancy of training over time that will. BUT, one workout too hard can break it for you. As you run more, your body starts to adapt to the increased mileage and your easy paces (and most other paces slower than sprint speed) will slowly drop as well. the longer you are at it, and the more you can run, the more these paces will come down. Yes just running a lot of easy miles WILL make you faster. for those that think high mileage is only to get faster at longer races, look at some of the college milers out there. the good ones are running 60-100 miles a week for a mile race. there is speedwork being done in there as well, but in order for it to do any work they still need a HUGE amount of miles in their legs. Once you start adding in some speedwork (which should not be done until you are running AT LEAST 20-25 miles a week), you'll see some quick but small drops in time from that. again the higher your weekly mileage, the more you'll get out of this. aside from the benifit of more miles under your belt, the person running 50 miles a week and doing 10% of that as speed is going to have a much higher overall volume of speedwork than the person doing 20 miles a week and 10% speed. more to come as questions come up about this Maria, on the bike ride. have you rode that far before, and if not how long was your longest ride before that (time or distance)? If this was your first time going that far, thats a long ride, that would put you out there around 3:45 at that pace, did you have anything to eat/much to drink? aside from the abvious of your body starting to get unhappy with being on a bike that long (that will come with more ride time), if you were not taking in some calories you are going to have a harder time finishing, and recovering from longer workouts like that. assuming its not a harder/raced paced workout, my general rule for fueling during training looks something like this (this is bike only). -in workouts up to 2 hours its just water, or something small if i have more workouts later/just came from another one. but in general 2 horus is just water or something with electrolyts if its really hot. - 2-3 hour rides: if i am in the middle of normal training i shoot for 150-200 cal an hour. this is still not coming close to replacing what i am buring but enoguh that i am still working well and not going to be burning a my bodies stores up in one workout (this is almost as much of damage prevention as it is about workout fueling). 3+ hours. this is where i start moving into race nutrition amounts, and taking in approx 300 cal per hour. This serves a few purposes, one it lets you practice that its going to feel like racing with food in your stomach/get used to the chosen sports drink/gel/bar/hamburger you want ot use. at this distances your going to need to be taking in some cal to keep working. It will also prevent your body from eating itself for fuel and making recovery a LOT longer. some people have issues with diff sports drinks, gels, whatever you are using, so it pays to practice with/get used to it on longer rides so you wont be suprised on race day. It always amazes me that people will try something, maybe a sample at a store or something like that and decide its not for them. or find something they love the taste of an then just go with it. What tastes good cold out of the fridge is not always going to sit well 3 hours into a ride/race when the drink is 90degrees! A good way to really test something like that out (and again this applies a lot more to those of you racing longer this year), is to see what you can stand on those long rides. |
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