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Bigfuzzydoug - 2011-11-08 7:09 AM
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Bigfuzzydoug - 2011-11-08 6:23 AM

Final thought...  They can't stay at the farm.  Obviously.  They have to hit the road and keep moving so the story can keep moving.  Ultimately the big question is:  Is there a place that is zombie-free and humans have recreated a normal life, will they ever find it and get there to live in peace?

 

I agree but something will happen with the baby before they move on. Either she will stay for them to deliver the baby and move on or she will lose it somehow then move on. I doubt they will move on to give birth in the middle of the road with walkers around.

So your trying to say that a TV WRITER can't avoid writing a birth scene with walkers attacking as they desperately try to defend themselves while she's giving birth?  Dude - They can't avoid it!  You know as well as I do that's what's going to happen!  ... She gives birth and is lyign there holding her new baby...  The walker approaches...  She's totally helpless...  The walker is about to attack but hesitates for a moment upon seeing the baby...  Their eyes meet.  Does the walker have some cognitive reasoning left in them?  And then Rick... no Shane... no CARL lops the walker's head off and saves his mother.

You're trying to say that a writer is NOT going to go down that road?  Wanna bet?  Wink

 

 

Very true but I hope they don't because part of the reason I liked the first season was that it was more realistic rather than just a sitcom style of what can we do this week. If they start getting outlandish with the plots I think I will lose interest.



2011-11-08 9:19 AM
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Big Appa - 2011-11-08 9:13 AM

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Bigfuzzydoug - 2011-11-08 6:23 AM

Final thought...  They can't stay at the farm.  Obviously.  They have to hit the road and keep moving so the story can keep moving.  Ultimately the big question is:  Is there a place that is zombie-free and humans have recreated a normal life, will they ever find it and get there to live in peace?

 

I agree but something will happen with the baby before they move on. Either she will stay for them to deliver the baby and move on or she will lose it somehow then move on. I doubt they will move on to give birth in the middle of the road with walkers around.

So your trying to say that a TV WRITER can't avoid writing a birth scene with walkers attacking as they desperately try to defend themselves while she's giving birth?  Dude - They can't avoid it!  You know as well as I do that's what's going to happen!  ... She gives birth and is lyign there holding her new baby...  The walker approaches...  She's totally helpless...  The walker is about to attack but hesitates for a moment upon seeing the baby...  Their eyes meet.  Does the walker have some cognitive reasoning left in them?  And then Rick... no Shane... no CARL lops the walker's head off and saves his mother.

You're trying to say that a writer is NOT going to go down that road?  Wanna bet?  Wink

 

 

Very true but I hope they don't because part of the reason I liked the first season was that it was more realistic rather than just a sitcom style of what can we do this week. If they start getting outlandish with the plots I think I will lose interest.



Sadly, it's starting to come to that. Just keep moving and killing zombies. That's all I want to see!
2011-11-08 9:27 AM
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Sadly, it's starting to come to that. Just keep moving and killing zombies. That's all I want to see!

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A show titled, "The Walking Dead" without actually showing zombies, zombies eating people and people splattering zombies?  If it weren't for the one walker in the well in the last episode, the show could be called, "Isolated People on a Farm".

 



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2011-11-08 10:01 AM
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The storyline is dragging. I WANT ZOMBIES AND LOTS OF THEM!  I quite enjoy being scared and I was SO hoping Daryl would have met a few walkers in that house.  I'm still very much addicted though and ITunes are making a fortune from me lol
2011-11-08 10:10 AM
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Bigfuzzydoug - 2011-11-08 9:27 AM

If it weren't for the one walker in the well in the last episode, the show could be called, "Isolated People on a Farm".

 

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2011-11-08 10:10 AM
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Triathlynne - 2011-11-08 10:01 AM The storyline is dragging. I WANT ZOMBIES AND LOTS OF THEM!  I quite enjoy being scared and I was SO hoping Daryl would have met a few walkers in that house.  I'm still very much addicted though and ITunes are making a fortune from me lol

I agree.  Last night I flipped in "28 Days Later" just to get my fix on.



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jgaither - 2011-11-08 10:10 AM

Triathlynne - 2011-11-08 10:01 AM The storyline is dragging. I WANT ZOMBIES AND LOTS OF THEM!  I quite enjoy being scared and I was SO hoping Daryl would have met a few walkers in that house.  I'm still very much addicted though and ITunes are making a fortune from me lol

I agree.  Last night I flipped in "28 Days Later" just to get my fix on.



My 'hood is where the safe zone is in `28 Weeks Later' (which sucked) ...

And it's where they filmed the Saigon scenes in `Full Metal Jacket'

Can you believe it's the same place!?
2011-11-08 10:37 AM
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jgaither - 2011-11-08 10:10 AM

Triathlynne - 2011-11-08 10:01 AM The storyline is dragging. I WANT ZOMBIES AND LOTS OF THEM!  I quite enjoy being scared and I was SO hoping Daryl would have met a few walkers in that house.  I'm still very much addicted though and ITunes are making a fortune from me lol

I agree.  Last night I flipped in "28 Days Later" just to get my fix on.

now that movie has zombies eating people

2011-11-08 10:48 AM
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Triathlynne - 2011-11-08 10:01 AM The storyline is dragging. I WANT ZOMBIES AND LOTS OF THEM!  I quite enjoy being scared and I was SO hoping Daryl would have met a few walkers in that house.  I'm still very much addicted though and ITunes are making a fortune from me lol

I agree.  Last night I flipped in "28 Days Later" just to get my fix on.

now that movie has zombies eating people

"Dawn of the Dead" is a great z-flick to get your fix on.  They diiiiieeee...  They all diiiiieeee..."  And of course if you want to laugh while the zombies munch out, "Shawn of the Dead" can't be beat.  But probably the best manwhich flick of all.  The one that has it all and is my all-time favorite...  Zombieland!  "You got a purty mouth!"

 

2011-11-08 10:58 AM
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Bigfuzzydoug - 2011-11-08 10:48 AM
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Triathlynne - 2011-11-08 10:01 AM The storyline is dragging. I WANT ZOMBIES AND LOTS OF THEM!  I quite enjoy being scared and I was SO hoping Daryl would have met a few walkers in that house.  I'm still very much addicted though and ITunes are making a fortune from me lol

I agree.  Last night I flipped in "28 Days Later" just to get my fix on.

now that movie has zombies eating people

"Dawn of the Dead" is a great z-flick to get your fix on.  They diiiiieeee...  They all diiiiieeee..."  And of course if you want to laugh while the zombies munch out, "Shawn of the Dead" can't be beat.  But probably the best manwhich flick of all.  The one that has it all and is my all-time favorite...  Zombieland!  "You got a purty mouth!"

 

All great movies. I also like I Am Legend but they say those are vampires not zombies.

2011-11-08 12:40 PM
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All great movies. I also like I Am Legend but they say those are vampires not zombies.

I did, and know the story...  Then you would find that the movie SUCKED!!!  One of the WORST movies ever!

Didn't you find something just a bit strange and odd with the final battle and the ending?  Why was this one 'vampire' so pent on getting to them?  Who was the 'vampire' girl on the table?    Didn't the ending seem to be hastily re-written?  And what's with the title, "I Am Legend"?  Legend of what?

Richard Matheson was a big anti-establishment author who liked to turn things upside down.  Through metaphor show that the typically-shown-as-the good-guys (i.e. the government) were in fact the bad guys (i.e. the Cold war in the 1950's).  Allow me to explain the storyline...

  • The "plague" transforms humanity into a new form of creature.  Everyone but Neville is now a 'vampire'.
  • The girl on the table would be the 'vampire leader's' daughter.  He's trying to save her!  In the book Neville meets a woman named Ruth who seems to have survived.  After they start a relationship, she tries to leave but Neville stops her and forces her to submit a blood test which reveals that she's infected.  She explains that the infected are beginning to handle sunlight better and are trying to rebuild society.
  • The story is told from the new 'vampire's' viewpoint.  And therefore...
    The "Legend" is twofold:  The legend of the infamous BUTCHER, Dr. Robert Neville!  The most horrible person since Dr. Joseph Mengele who kidnapped peopl (vampires), conducted brutal medical experiments on them and killed them.  Hundreds!  You saw all of the photos of the people that didn't survive his "experiments" over the years.

    In the book he is captured by Ruth and imprisoned by the 'vampires'.  Ruth explans that she's a member of the ruling council and that he's been sentenced to death for his crimes.  She being more"humane", fought for his sentence be commuted to life in prison, but she failed.  She gives Neville poison pills so that he can take his own life.  The second part of 'legend" is as he's dying, he says, "I'm a new superstition entering the unassailable fortress of forever.  I am legend."  As the last uninfected person on earth, when he dies, he will become nothing but a legend.

WILL SMITH IS SUPPOSED TO TURN OUT AS THE BAD GUY IN THE END OF THE MOVIE!!!

Sure would have made for a better movie, eh?  But at the time, some marketer in Hollywood probably tested it and said, "oh we can't have Mr. Independence Day Hero turn out to be a ruthless butcher and murderer of the innocent who gets captured by more humane vampires than him and he chooses to kill himself rather than be executed.  That won't fly.  You have to rewrite the ending."

Even if you didn't read the book.  The ending of the movie killed the whole thing!  IMHO.

Sorry.

 

 



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2011-11-08 1:04 PM
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****SPOILER ALERT*******

 

Bigfuzzydoug - 2011-11-08 12:40 PM

All great movies. I also like I Am Legend but they say those are vampires not zombies.

I did, and know the story...  Then you would find that the movie SUCKED!!!  One of the WORST movies ever!

Didn't you find something just a bit strange and odd with the final battle and the ending?  Why was this one 'vampire' so pent on getting to them?  Who was the 'vampire' girl on the table?    Didn't the ending seem to be hastily re-written?  And what's with the title, "I Am Legend"?  Legend of what?

Richard Matheson was a big anti-establishment author who liked to turn things upside down.  Through metaphor show that the typically-shown-as-the good-guys (i.e. the government) were in fact the bad guys (i.e. the Cold war in the 1950's).  Allow me to explain the storyline...

  • The "plague" transforms humanity into a new form of creature.  Everyone but Neville is now a 'vampire'.
  • The girl on the table would be the 'vampire leader's' daughter.  He's trying to save her!  In the book Neville meets a woman named Ruth who seems to have survived.  After they start a relationship, she tries to leave but Neville stops her and forces her to submit a blood test which reveals that she's infected.  She explains that the infected are beginning to handle sunlight better and are trying to rebuild society.
  • The story is told from the new 'vampire's' viewpoint.  And therefore...
    The "Legend" is twofold:  The legend of the infamous BUTCHER, Dr. Robert Neville!  The most horrible person since Dr. Joseph Mengele who kidnapped peopl (vampires), conducted brutal medical experiments on them and killed them.  Hundreds!  You saw all of the photos of the people that didn't survive his "experiments" over the years.

    In the book he is captured by Ruth and imprisoned by the 'vampires'.  Ruth explans that she's a member of the ruling council and that he's been sentenced to death for his crimes.  She being more"humane", fought for his sentence be commuted to life in prison, but she failed.  She gives Neville poison pills so that he can take his own life.  The second part of 'legend" is as he's dying, he says, "I'm a new superstition entering the unassailable fortress of forever.  I am legend."  As the last uninfected person on earth, when he dies, he will become nothing but a legend.

WILL SMITH IS SUPPOSED TO TURN OUT AS THE BAD GUY IN THE END OF THE MOVIE!!!

Sure would have made for a better movie, eh?  But at the time, some marketer in Hollywood probably tested it and said, "oh we can't have Mr. Independence Day Hero turn out to be a ruthless butcher and murderer of the innocent who gets captured by more humane vampires than him and he chooses to kill himself rather than be executed.  That won't fly.  You have to rewrite the ending."

Even if you didn't read the book.  The ending of the movie killed the whole thing!  IMHO.

Sorry.

 

 

 

Fixed that for ya. 

2011-11-08 1:14 PM
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The last episode was so lame I thought I was watching Little House of the Prarie.  Am I right , only 1 Zombie scene in that last eposide? 

As mentioned by one of our BT folks here, the Redneck is atop the chain right now along with Deputy Dog.  In fact, I venture to say that 99.9% of the people would be beholden to folks like this in a similar crisis .  In reality, we all better get some "know how".  I grew up on a farm and did work for Uncle Sam and I still question how I'd do in a situation long term.  Which leads me to a poll Im going to post in a few minutes.

 

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Bigfuzzydoug - 2011-11-08 12:40 PM

All great movies. I also like I Am Legend but they say those are vampires not zombies.

I did, and know the story...  Then you would find that the movie SUCKED!!!  One of the WORST movies ever!

Didn't you find something just a bit strange and odd with the final battle and the ending?  Why was this one 'vampire' so pent on getting to them?  Who was the 'vampire' girl on the table?    Didn't the ending seem to be hastily re-written?  And what's with the title, "I Am Legend"?  Legend of what?

Richard Matheson was a big anti-establishment author who liked to turn things upside down.  Through metaphor show that the typically-shown-as-the good-guys (i.e. the government) were in fact the bad guys (i.e. the Cold war in the 1950's).  Allow me to explain the storyline...

  • The "plague" transforms humanity into a new form of creature.  Everyone but Neville is now a 'vampire'.
  • The girl on the table would be the 'vampire leader's' daughter.  He's trying to save her!  In the book Neville meets a woman named Ruth who seems to have survived.  After they start a relationship, she tries to leave but Neville stops her and forces her to submit a blood test which reveals that she's infected.  She explains that the infected are beginning to handle sunlight better and are trying to rebuild society.
  • The story is told from the new 'vampire's' viewpoint.  And therefore...
    The "Legend" is twofold:  The legend of the infamous BUTCHER, Dr. Robert Neville!  The most horrible person since Dr. Joseph Mengele who kidnapped peopl (vampires), conducted brutal medical experiments on them and killed them.  Hundreds!  You saw all of the photos of the people that didn't survive his "experiments" over the years.

    In the book he is captured by Ruth and imprisoned by the 'vampires'.  Ruth explans that she's a member of the ruling council and that he's been sentenced to death for his crimes.  She being more"humane", fought for his sentence be commuted to life in prison, but she failed.  She gives Neville poison pills so that he can take his own life.  The second part of 'legend" is as he's dying, he says, "I'm a new superstition entering the unassailable fortress of forever.  I am legend."  As the last uninfected person on earth, when he dies, he will become nothing but a legend.

WILL SMITH IS SUPPOSED TO TURN OUT AS THE BAD GUY IN THE END OF THE MOVIE!!!

Sure would have made for a better movie, eh?  But at the time, some marketer in Hollywood probably tested it and said, "oh we can't have Mr. Independence Day Hero turn out to be a ruthless butcher and murderer of the innocent who gets captured by more humane vampires than him and he chooses to kill himself rather than be executed.  That won't fly.  You have to rewrite the ending."

Even if you didn't read the book.  The ending of the movie killed the whole thing!  IMHO.

Sorry.

 

 

The original Richard Matheson book was a good read. Much better ending and story line.

2011-11-08 3:16 PM
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hrliles - 2011-11-08 11:14 AM

The last episode was so lame I thought I was watching Little House of the Prarie.  Am I right , only 1 Zombie scene in that last eposide? 

As mentioned by one of our BT folks here, the Redneck is atop the chain right now along with Deputy Dog.  In fact, I venture to say that 99.9% of the people would be beholden to folks like this in a similar crisis .  In reality, we all better get some "know how".  I grew up on a farm and did work for Uncle Sam and I still question how I'd do in a situation long term.  Which leads me to a poll Im going to post in a few minutes.

 

 

You are dead right!!! The one in the well.  Where was the excitement? I was falling asleep and half expecting a little girl to tumble down the hill into a patch of flowers...then...OM NOM NOM NOM.  How cool would that have been? lol

2011-11-08 3:34 PM
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So the virus is transmitted threw blood or saliva because they get the walkers blood on them all the time. If it's saliva from the bite then what happens if a person with no teeth becomes a walker and they don’t have their dentures do they just gum and tear at people?



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The AMA and CDC clearly state that not just a bite but also a nail scratch that draws blood will, let me see if I can quote this, "terminate life within minutes / hours through transmission of gross nail zombie fungus and regenarate the body into the undead".  Im pretty sure it says that in their studies in their manual of Zombie 101.  Thought you knew that.

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Iowaman - 2011-11-08 11:22 AM

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The original Richard Matheson book was a good read. Much better ending and story line.

All the movie versions of the book are different from the source:  Last Man on Earth, Omega Man, and I am Legend.  All different from the book, and all different from each other.

 

RE: this weeks episode:

I called it!  And really I thought it was done well.

I thought he'd at least find something in the house that moved, but the suspense was good.

It does look like they'll be following some of the comic for the resolution of the farm too - there was some foreshadowing for that. 

The pacing wouldn't be bad, if it were a 26 episode season, but we're getting just 13 episodes

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hrliles - 2011-11-13 9:02 PM WTF

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2011-11-14 8:43 AM
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It looks like they got back on track this week!!!  Great episode.  I don't what's going on with the barn but it makes more sense why he wants the travelers gone.  From the previews it looks like maybe they feed them too (you see one of them walking with a wheel barrow toward the barn).  I'm wondering if they are all relatives or friends and he's waiting for a cure or something???  They jsut don't strike me as the type to run experiments.

Also, it looks like the "I slept with shane" bomb shell is going to drop pretty soon.  Maybe by the end of the season......  maybe that'll be the cliffhanger.



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Gotta think it will play out that DOC has been testing the subjects and that's how the one ended up in the well which leads me to wonder why the girl said it was ok to drink from the well perhaps knowing it may be contaminated.  Maybe I think to much into it.  I should just drink a beer and enjoy, I watch these flicks to escape reality sometimes so tywing to make it fit reality, well, that's just not sane.

Oh, and about that whole "cycle" thing, better leave that one alone!!



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Gotta think it will play out that DOC has been testing the subjects and that's how the one ended up in the well which leads me to wonder why the girl said it was ok to drink from the well perhaps knowing it may be contaminated.


Good call on the well, maybe DOC is trying to make a vaccine to keep new people from getting, a little water from the well each day might help them build up a resistance to the virus
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kenb - 2011-11-14 12:57 PM Gotta think it will play out that DOC has been testing the subjects and that's how the one ended up in the well which leads me to wonder why the girl said it was ok to drink from the well perhaps knowing it may be contaminated. Good call on the well, maybe DOC is trying to make a vaccine to keep new people from getting, a little water from the well each day might help them build up a resistance to the virus

 

maybe the zombies are just severely dehydrated!!!!!

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Bigfuzzydoug - 2011-11-08 1:40 PM

All great movies. I also like I Am Legend but they say those are vampires not zombies.

I did, and know the story...  Then you would find that the movie SUCKED!!!  One of the WORST movies ever!

Even if you didn't read the book.  The ending of the movie killed the whole thing!  IMHO.

Sorry.


Did you ever see the alternate ending?  While not as good as the book it was much much better...

http://www.traileraddict.com/clip/i-am-legend/alternate-ending

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