2015 Clyde/Athena Tri-N-4- Weight Loss Mentor Group - Open (Page 5)

Thanks for the tips. My hard workouts right now are mostly short, but hard efforts. My bike rides are usually 45-60 min and include high intensity intervals. Runs may be short and fast, or long and slow. I generally don't have a problem being hungry right after a workout, in fact, usually I can't eat for at least an hour after a hard bike or a run or else I get stomach cramps.

My problem is that the day after a hard workout, I feel like I am always hungry, no matter how much I eat. My guess is that it is my body's response to a calorie deficit. I can deal with this for the most part, but it makes the day pretty miserable. Where I am REALLY struggling is at the end of the week, I am tired and have no energy. And I'm assuming it's because I am consuming too few calories. I try to keep up with my caloric intake on my fitness pal, and replenish those calories I burned during workouts, but on days where I swim for 90 minutes in the morning, and then run for 45 minutes at lunch, MFP is estimating that I need to consume nearly 5000 calories! That's pretty tough to do on a mostly plant-based diet and I don't want to eat crap just to make up for a couple thousand calories.

Mostly I am just trying to figure out whether this is something my body will adapt to and this will eventually get easier, or if I need to change my eating habits.

this week I have seen the number on the scale creep up a little, but I'm not too worried right now, I had to cinch up another notch on the belt, and I noticed that some of my shirts are fitting a bit looser.

Just thinking outloud (or in writing)...

I have added everyone that has posted their handle over at MyFitnessPal and thought we could do a post with everyone who wishes to enter so we can add each other. We could do something with Strava or Garmin Connect or others as well.

I am dborradori on MFP and [email protected] for endomondo

Sunday Update

260.0lbs = no change. After dropping 3.5 last week and with how this week ended, I can not be unhappy with that.

Swim: Didn't manage to get in the pool at all this week.
Bike: Single ride on Monday. 10.77 mi @ a dismal (for me) 14.7mph
Run: Single run on Tuesday. my usual 1.62mi loop in 22:31. Not only did I run the full first mile, but I averaged under 14:00/mi for the first time in a while

GAH!!!! now I have Frozen stuck in my head!!!!

Plank-a-day challenge: 0. I am now 9 behind total (started 4 days late). Plan to be caught up by next week.

Okay... well 2 of the first 3 toys for my bike are in my hot little hands. Since the BB on my bike is toast, and even though it's under warranty, I really don't care to send them the whole bike just to get the same... iffy... part again. So... I came in this morning to find a package on my desk. I open it up and I now have an FSA Square Taper BB and a Sunlite 53/39 crankset with 170mm cranks to install.... as soon as the tool shows up, lol!







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Forgot to add that as of today I'm starting to log food again at MFP under WebFootFreak

Weekend Update: 2 swims, 3 bikes, and 2 1/3 runs. On Thursday I got started out on a run, and I was having some pain in my quad, so I ran a mile to see if it would loosen up, but it just got worse so I turned around and walked back. But on Saturday I ran 5 miles with no pain.

This week's goals: 2 swims, 3 bikes, and 3 runs. Last week I added volume, this week I am going to stick with pretty much the same routine, but maybe add a little to one of my runs. Next week I will add a little speed work into one run. Diet wise, I am going to try and add more protein.

I'm doing the Outlaw half and IM Staffs 70.3. The timing is just sheer bad luck. They're both flat and highly competitive the former opened first with no facility to transfer or pull out without loosing all the fee and the latter is an inaugural race in my home county so I just couldn't miss it! It's going to be a long hard challenge.

At the moment I'v doing OK. The weight is coming off. I'm focussing on the day to day/week to week of sticking to the diet and trying to get the hours in. This week is going to be a challenge, it's the week with a lot of training load but I also have a conference at the weekend and fitting it all in will be tough.

My weekly update,

Ran 4 days for 7 runs and just over 2 hours total. Not what I had planned at the start of the week, but like i said midweek is a number I'm happy with. And allowed me to rest up a bit more.

Nutrition 4/7 days I was in my 1500-1800 Cal target range. Like I said the other day, I made some poor choices towards the end of the week. But over all the week was a pass. But I do need to turn those 2-3 bad meals a week, into 2-3 a month.

Weight, surprisingly good. Down 2.6lbs for the week, for a total of 8.6lbs over the 3 weeks of training for the year. I had expected no change or a small gain, so this was a nice surprise.

For the next week, i want to run for 2.5 hours total, and continue to make the right choice for my diet. Less bad meals, more planning ahead.

I just want to say something here, But first only you know if you're happy with the speed of your weight loss, And if you're loosing your 1-2lbs a week as you want to then please feel free to ignore what I'm going to say.

This is for everyone on MFP, or a similar program.

My Fitness Pal (and your Garmin, and your treadmill etc.) MASSIVELY overestimates the calories that you burn during exercise. When this is combined with underestimating how many calories you eat (We all do this to some degree) eating back all the exercise calories MFP calculates for you can be a huge problem.

When I was in the peak of my HIM training. (i.e Running 40km/week, cycling +6 hours/week Swiming 1-2 hours/week) I was eating a target of about 2,500 cal. Now I know that everyone is different. But 5,000 Cal/day whilst expecting weight loss seems huge to me. if i imputed all my workouts into MFP, the target would have been much higher than that tho.

If you're working out for over 2 hours a day, like your post says, then yes, you do need to eat something extra. But I struggle to believe that it should be this much.

Remember, hunger is fat leaving the body. We're all trying to lose here. We're supposed to be hungry, at least some of the time.

Ooooo pretty toys. Make sure you show us some photos of your newly updated and improved steed when she's finished.

Those parts have to be worth +1mph

I posted it before, but I'm bulfrognz at MFP, anyone who want's to add me who hasn't please feel free.

I don't use Strava or Garmin connect, but my trainging log is at RunningAhead.com, username bulfrog

I've added all requests on MFP.

Had an interesting day yesterday. I blinked out for a few seconds behind the wheel on the way home yesterday. I checked my glucose when I got home, and it was 85 or 86 (it's a little fuzzy). Long story short, after I destroyed my diet last night, I'm feeling much better today. I have an appt @1600 today with my Dr, so we'll see how it goes!

*crossing fingers for 3rd reduction in meds in 2 years*

Totally true about the high margin of error with calories on these places. Can't talk about all of them but in reference to Garmin Connect, there are things you can do to make it a bit more accurate. Everything has a margin of error of course but you can tweak the data in your favor (and by that I mean make it more accurate) by filling your profile with as much info as you can give regarding age, updating your weight and calculating as best you can, your heart rate zones. The more information you feed Garmin Connect, the better the calorie estimation.

Again, it's never gonna be 100% accurate but updating your entire profile and keeping all you stats up to date will help a lot.

I'm on my phone so I can't quote...

I am in a VERY good mood right now. Had my time with the Dr today. Told him what happened and he said that 85 wasn't low enough to cause that. He ran my A1C anyways and it came back at 5.3. With that number and my Metformin dose... He has taken me completely off that med!!! I am officially no longer classified as diabetic!!!!

Now, as to my little phase-out, he's thinking heart. He gave me an EKG, which I passed with flying colors. He said that if I have another episode, he's going to throw the testing book at me (ie: stress test, etc). So right now, all is good and I only have my BP meds left... but that may never completely go away.

Fantastic! That is great news about no ore diabetes. Now, no getting the book thrown at you, either! No more incidents!

Edited by ceilidh 2015-01-27 7:25 PM

So you're saying that your lifestyle changes, like taking on triathlons has made diabetes disappear? That's awesome news!

If that isn't inspirational for the rest of the group I don't know what is.

Is it too late to join group??

Hop on in, the water is fine. Tell us some about yourself.

Never!! Cannonball into the deep end with the rise of us!

Sunday Update:

Mixed feelings this week... but overall still doing the Snoopy Dance! I weighed in mid-week at 256, but had a rocky weekend (Fri/Sat for me) from a dieting standpoint and ended up at 257.5. I am still down 2.5 this week which still rocks, but since I know I was lower on Wed it puts a bit of a damper on it. So... I am officially back at my Jan 1 starting point... it's been worse, lol!

Okay, since I'm on MFP, I'm going to add diet in with my S/B/R since accountability is the name of the game... and I'm here to play.

Diet: Overall pretty good. I was under 5/7 days although Fri was right at the line, and very questionable. I made homemade Pizza and Bruschetta. I did use mostly fresh ingredients and turkey pepperoni and sausage. I was rushed, so I didn't pay attention to how much of what I put on there, so I SWAG'd it and threw 1700 calories at that one meal... Not accurate, but I was hoping to at least keep it in the ballpark... Monday is the day I had the episode that sent me to the Dr, and I overcompensated food-wise during dinner. Yesterday was the killer though... Lazy was the name of the game and I honestly believe that is 75% of the reason I didn't maintain my 256 mid-week weight.

Swim: Happy with 2 sessions in the pool after being left high and dry last week. Got a good 1250 distance swim in Friday morning. Won't be long until I'm back at 2000+ yds on my long swims.

Bike: Nope. This is where the other 25% of my lack of maintenance went. I hate the idea that I wasted $$$ on a trainer I'm not using. Plus the temps were niiiice for a couple of days and I didn't take advantage. I know exactly who's to blame.

Run: A good week for my weakest link. I wanted to run 4 days, but only managed 3. Last Sun, I ran my 1.62 mi loop in 21:36 (13:21/mi). Tues saw that same loop at 20:53 (12:55/mi - YAY!!) and I only walked about 40yds in the middle and for cooldown. I felt good Thurs... and I just kept going. I was going a touch slower aiming for a full run and when I got to my stop point, I felt good enough to keep going and add in the next section. I Ran 2.01mi (no w/u or c/d logged) in 27:26 (13:38/mi). I'm 2/3 of the way back to a full 5K. I guess the questions are: 1) Will I make it to 10K before my first race (mid-May)? And 2) Will I be able to make my goal of a sub-36:00 run leg? I honestly, don't know... But I'm going to find out

Okay... Goals... I'm going to KISS it this week... I know I'm only going to get 1 swim in so... 1S/2B/4R for training, and 6/7 days under for caloric intake. That sounds like I'd be keeping it simple, yes?