Discrimination in Boy Scouts (Page 5)

Since you believe there are "moral absolutes", what are they in your mind?

Don't hurt people, don't take their stuff, take responsibility, keep your promises, and mind your own business.

I would agree with those......but there are societies that don't agree, and even in our own society, we surely hurt people (death penalty), don't always mind our own business (especially as a nation, sanctioned by our society), and our govt. will take your stuff (even for something as simple as selling marijuana).

So......are these truly absolute?  Do they only apply to individuals, or should society follow these as well, in order to call itself a moral society?

Other cultures may not believe in these "moral absolutes" at all.....so are the truly "absolute" for humans?

Huh?  Either there are moral "absolutes" or there isn't, right?

I'm not into defining moral absolutes, just principles which, if followed, would make individuals and societies better.  I'll suggest that most of the problems of man (and by extension society) stem from failing to stick to one or more of those principles.  

I agree.  Principles are certainly different that "moral absolutes" for humans.  I don't think "moral absolutes" for humans actually exist.  Different societies thrive and flourish with differing morals.

I've tried to think of what morals there are that "most" people agree on.  Obviously the don't murder, steal, physically abuse type stuff are fairly well supported across all spectrums but it starts to get dicey real quick.

I was thinking of the post birth murders that most people agree on, but you make a great point that even that "cut and dry" one is isn't even cut and dry. 

I think there is overwhelming agreement that it is unacceptable to murder an innocent unborn child. What's disputed is how long after a man ejaculates do you have an unborn child. Some believe it's the exact moment the sperm makes contact with the egg, others believe it's many months down the line. Even SCOTUS ruled that abortions and a woman's right to privacy is protected only up to the point of viability, which is why so many states have been able to legally ban abortions after the 20th week (assuming no health risks to the mother).

Since the question of when does life begin is philosophical in nature, there will never be a consensus. But pretty much everything Tony listed boils down to living by the golden rule, which is pretty much a staple of just about every single religion and civilizaton that has ever existed throughout the entire history of mankind. 

BURN HIM!!!!!  ^^^

I work really hard to not be intolerant of other beliefs, but this has just gone too far!!!  Buckets for all!!!!