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2013-03-25 11:14 AM in reply to: #4673368 |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED TriAya - 2013-03-25 11:08 AM I'm eating cheese with cheese crackers along with my most wonderful coffee. I think I'm turning into a mouse. Mmmm is it Indonesian coffee? |
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2013-03-25 11:17 AM in reply to: #4651276 |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED So, as you said, doing the run/walk is a pacing strategy. Does this mean it's something you want to practice throughout all of your different workouts or is it something you more just want to use in a longer run/race? I guess I really don't know much about it other than when it's used as a longer distance race strategy (IE walking through the water stations.) Maybe someone can point me to something that discusses the philosophy? |
2013-03-25 11:18 AM in reply to: #4673384 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED Asalzwed - 2013-03-26 1:14 AM TriAya - 2013-03-25 11:08 AM I'm eating cheese with cheese crackers along with my most wonderful coffee. I think I'm turning into a mouse. Mmmm is it Indonesian coffee? It is just about the best Java you can get locally (most of the really top-end stuff is exported). I say "just about" only to leave the possibility that better might exist. There's a reason that "java" has become another word for coffee. I'd say this is it. |
2013-03-25 11:24 AM in reply to: #4673395 |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED TriAya - 2013-03-25 11:18 AM Yum. I love the earthiness of Indonesian coffee. It's my favorite. Asalzwed - 2013-03-26 1:14 AM TriAya - 2013-03-25 11:08 AM I'm eating cheese with cheese crackers along with my most wonderful coffee. I think I'm turning into a mouse. Mmmm is it Indonesian coffee? It is just about the best Java you can get locally (most of the really top-end stuff is exported). I say "just about" only to leave the possibility that better might exist. There's a reason that "java" has become another word for coffee. I'd say this is it. |
2013-03-25 11:27 AM in reply to: #4673406 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED Asalzwed - 2013-03-26 1:24 AM TriAya - 2013-03-25 11:18 AM Yum. I love the earthiness of Indonesian coffee. It's my favorite. Asalzwed - 2013-03-26 1:14 AM TriAya - 2013-03-25 11:08 AM I'm eating cheese with cheese crackers along with my most wonderful coffee. I think I'm turning into a mouse. Mmmm is it Indonesian coffee? It is just about the best Java you can get locally (most of the really top-end stuff is exported). I say "just about" only to leave the possibility that better might exist. There's a reason that "java" has become another word for coffee. I'd say this is it. Man, I wish I could take you on a Tour de Coffee of the archipelago. Every region, often even within the regions, down to individual growers (like fine wines, y'know), has its own unique flavor and type of coffee. Most are incredible. There are also different methods of preparation and serving. I mean, you probably have an idea how much of the world's coffee is sourced from Indonesia. Even our "bad" coffee is good. |
2013-03-25 11:33 AM in reply to: #4673303 |
Regular 980 Caerphilly, Wales, uk. | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED TriAya - 2013-03-25 3:36 PM CONGRATULATIONS JANYNE! That's "J-A-N-Y-N-E." Two Ns. Be grateful I don't make you guys call me Arsiyanti, although with the fact that I call people whatever I want/think their name SHOULD be, I suppose *I* ought to be grateful anybody calls me at all I get that habit from my dad. I kinda like it. Fortunately or unfortunately, whatever name I come up with for people really tends to stick and spread. Like peanut butter. I like Peanut Butter too. the stuff, and the Manatee.
Be grateful we don't call you Arse |
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2013-03-25 11:34 AM in reply to: #4651276 |
Regular 980 Caerphilly, Wales, uk. | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED Congratulations Janyne, way to go. |
2013-03-25 11:34 AM in reply to: #4673412 |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED TriAya - 2013-03-25 11:27 AM Asalzwed - 2013-03-26 1:24 AM TriAya - 2013-03-25 11:18 AM Yum. I love the earthiness of Indonesian coffee. It's my favorite. Asalzwed - 2013-03-26 1:14 AM TriAya - 2013-03-25 11:08 AM I'm eating cheese with cheese crackers along with my most wonderful coffee. I think I'm turning into a mouse. Mmmm is it Indonesian coffee? It is just about the best Java you can get locally (most of the really top-end stuff is exported). I say "just about" only to leave the possibility that better might exist. There's a reason that "java" has become another word for coffee. I'd say this is it. Man, I wish I could take you on a Tour de Coffee of the archipelago. Every region, often even within the regions, down to individual growers (like fine wines, y'know), has its own unique flavor and type of coffee. Most are incredible. There are also different methods of preparation and serving. I mean, you probably have an idea how much of the world's coffee is sourced from Indonesia. Even our "bad" coffee is good. Yeah, I'd love that. We have a pretty robust coffee program here that we go through. I need to go through again to refresh. We also do tastings nearly every day and it's more often than not, a coffee from outside the company so we have a lot of exposure. All of the different growing regions have a pretty unique flavor profile. |
2013-03-25 11:37 AM in reply to: #4651276 |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED Sooo, I'm starting a gradual 3 week taper. I am asking you all to help me make GOOD decisions and not be tempted to fill my extra time with things like mountain climbing, snowboarding and all night dance parties. With the exception of this coming weekend, I get a free pass. |
2013-03-25 11:39 AM in reply to: #4651276 |
Master 1890 Gig Harbor | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED Running Question... I am now following my "planned training" and have been swimming / biking / and running. Had a great week of training - and am running further than my plan calls for (comfortably) and cycling a bit more also. No worries there. I want to run my final pure running race (The Eugene 1/2 marathon) on 4/28/13. This race finishes at Hayward Field (home of the Olympic Trials) on the University of Oregon Campus. Since I bleed Yellow & Green, I've been looking forward to this race for a while. I plan to try and PR this race. I have put together the following RUN training plan. I will be doing this along side my bike and swimming workouts that are scheduled in my "planned" workouts. I need to know if this is plan I put together is crazy (builds to fast), or doable... Thanks for your help.
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2013-03-25 11:45 AM in reply to: #4673428 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED Asalzwed - 2013-03-26 1:37 AM Sooo, I'm starting a gradual 3 week taper. I am asking you all to help me make GOOD decisions and not be tempted to fill my extra time with things like mountain climbing, snowboarding and all night dance parties. With the exception of this coming weekend, I get a free pass. So where's my invite to the all-night dance party then? |
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2013-03-25 11:50 AM in reply to: #4673430 |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED Muskrat37 - 2013-03-25 11:39 AM Running Question... I am now following my "planned training" and have been swimming / biking / and running. Had a great week of training - and am running further than my plan calls for (comfortably) and cycling a bit more also. No worries there. I want to run my final pure running race (The Eugene 1/2 marathon) on 4/28/13. This race finishes at Hayward Field (home of the Olympic Trials) on the University of Oregon Campus. Since I bleed Yellow & Green, I've been looking forward to this race for a while. I plan to try and PR this race. I have put together the following RUN training plan. I will be doing this along side my bike and swimming workouts that are scheduled in my "planned" workouts. I need to know if this is plan I put together is crazy (builds to fast), or doable... Thanks for your help.
Hmmm, I don't know that I would "plan" for a PR with only 6 weeks to train, also while balancing tri training. Not to say it won't happen but that's just not a lot of time. What have you been doing since the HM? I'd be more inclined to run 6 days a week, too. But, there is the push and pull of triathlon training here. I also find the most success in HMs to have long runs in the 15-18 mile range. But I don't think you have time to build to those kind of distances. I have a lot of teammates doing that race so I am very familiar with their training programs. *You know that the strides are just tacked on to the end of a workout, too, right? (I see you have them thrown in there) *What do you mean by "speed"? Edited by Asalzwed 2013-03-25 11:56 AM |
2013-03-25 11:52 AM in reply to: #4673393 |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED Asalzwed - 2013-03-25 9:17 AM So, as you said, doing the run/walk is a pacing strategy. Does this mean it's something you want to practice throughout all of your different workouts or is it something you more just want to use in a longer run/race? I guess I really don't know much about it other than when it's used as a longer distance race strategy (IE walking through the water stations.) Maybe someone can point me to something that discusses the philosophy? This is from Galloways website. I guess I am just a little bit at a loss of where to go/start. Other than when I first started running, I have never been away from running this long (so that I feel like I am starting completely from the beginning). I did a program through the Running Room for my first (well, only) marathon, and they do run 10/walk 1 min for all runs (their take on run/walk). I took a bit of time off after the mary, then when I went back to training, I sort of 'forgot' about the walk breaks and ran only. That worked fine. Now coming back from injury, my PT wanted me to start back with run/walk just to ease in. She is fine with going to full runs ultimately, but I did pretty well with run walk so am considering going back to it. I dunno. I would like someone to send me to the website www.kirstenscomingbackfrominjuryrunprogram.com |
2013-03-25 11:52 AM in reply to: #4673430 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED Muskrat37 - 2013-03-26 1:39 AM Running Question... I am now following my "planned training" and have been swimming / biking / and running. Had a great week of training - and am running further than my plan calls for (comfortably) and cycling a bit more also. No worries there. I want to run my final pure running race (The Eugene 1/2 marathon) on 4/28/13. This race finishes at Hayward Field (home of the Olympic Trials) on the University of Oregon Campus. Since I bleed Yellow & Green, I've been looking forward to this race for a while. I plan to try and PR this race. I have put together the following RUN training plan. I will be doing this along side my bike and swimming workouts that are scheduled in my "planned" workouts. I need to know if this is plan I put together is crazy (builds to fast), or doable... Thanks for your help.
I'll let Salty and others answer more 'cause I'm in brain-fry-procrastination mode right now, but I'm not seeing that you're doing enough mileage to warrant a recovery run. Instead, all your running (with the possible exception of including short segments of strides here and there in your strides runs) should be done at a suitably easy pace with respect to your total mileage. McMillan? Also, what're the two workouts designated as "speed"? |
2013-03-25 12:00 PM in reply to: #4673029 |
Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED cdban66 - 2013-03-25 8:53 AM Hey all, Janyne does not seem to be one to toot her own horn, so I will. She won her age group on Sunday, and that was while facing 20 mph headwinds for the last 20 miles of the bike. WooHoo, great job!!!!!! JANYNE ROCKS!!!!!! |
2013-03-25 12:07 PM in reply to: #4673448 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED bcraht - 2013-03-26 1:52 AM Asalzwed - 2013-03-25 9:17 AM So, as you said, doing the run/walk is a pacing strategy. Does this mean it's something you want to practice throughout all of your different workouts or is it something you more just want to use in a longer run/race? I guess I really don't know much about it other than when it's used as a longer distance race strategy (IE walking through the water stations.) Maybe someone can point me to something that discusses the philosophy? This is from Galloways website. I guess I am just a little bit at a loss of where to go/start. Other than when I first started running, I have never been away from running this long (so that I feel like I am starting completely from the beginning). I did a program through the Running Room for my first (well, only) marathon, and they do run 10/walk 1 min for all runs (their take on run/walk). I took a bit of time off after the mary, then when I went back to training, I sort of 'forgot' about the walk breaks and ran only. That worked fine. Now coming back from injury, my PT wanted me to start back with run/walk just to ease in. She is fine with going to full runs ultimately, but I did pretty well with run walk so am considering going back to it. I dunno. I would like someone to send me to the website www.kirstenscomingbackfrominjuryrunprogram.com So start back with run/walk. Do whatever kind of a ratio lets you do the whole distance/time easy, doing the run part easy and the walk part easy to moderate. The exact ratio really isn't important (unless you are truly doing a Galloway plan for a specific race to the T, which you're not). This part I do agree with Jeff on, though; if you're going to do a run/walk ratio that can be broken down to a shorter-run but equivalent whole-minute ratio, then do the shorter-run one. For example: rather than 10:2, do 5:1. (I don't think I saw any of those in your examples though). |
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2013-03-25 12:16 PM in reply to: #4673480 |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED TriAya - 2013-03-25 12:07 PM bcraht - 2013-03-26 1:52 AM Asalzwed - 2013-03-25 9:17 AM So, as you said, doing the run/walk is a pacing strategy. Does this mean it's something you want to practice throughout all of your different workouts or is it something you more just want to use in a longer run/race? I guess I really don't know much about it other than when it's used as a longer distance race strategy (IE walking through the water stations.) Maybe someone can point me to something that discusses the philosophy? This is from Galloways website. I guess I am just a little bit at a loss of where to go/start. Other than when I first started running, I have never been away from running this long (so that I feel like I am starting completely from the beginning). I did a program through the Running Room for my first (well, only) marathon, and they do run 10/walk 1 min for all runs (their take on run/walk). I took a bit of time off after the mary, then when I went back to training, I sort of 'forgot' about the walk breaks and ran only. That worked fine. Now coming back from injury, my PT wanted me to start back with run/walk just to ease in. She is fine with going to full runs ultimately, but I did pretty well with run walk so am considering going back to it. I dunno. I would like someone to send me to the website www.kirstenscomingbackfrominjuryrunprogram.com So start back with run/walk. Do whatever kind of a ratio lets you do the whole distance/time easy, doing the run part easy and the walk part easy to moderate. The exact ratio really isn't important (unless you are truly doing a Galloway plan for a specific race to the T, which you're not). This part I do agree with Jeff on, though; if you're going to do a run/walk ratio that can be broken down to a shorter-run but equivalent whole-minute ratio, then do the shorter-run one. For example: rather than 10:2, do 5:1. (I don't think I saw any of those in your examples though). His programs just seem SO minimal. I get what he is saying about the walk breaks/ratios. And that is totally fine. But I don't think he is setting anyone up for success. If he spent more time having you actually run, I doubt you would need as much walking. I dunno ... I don't like it at all. If you are not ready to commit to the demand of marathon training time, don't do a marathon. Kirsten, I am not speaking to you. Just to his marathon plan. So don't get me wrong. You need to do what you need to do in order to stay healthy and progressively ramp up your volume. |
2013-03-25 12:29 PM in reply to: #4651276 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED JANYNE IS A ROCK STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I didn't get to try the Clover coffee because of a snowstorm in Denver I didn't get to run this weekend because of a snowstorm in Denver I am in a lousy taper-PMS mood I would love some yummy Indonesian coffee I leave for O'side in 3 days My MIL is a saint (Rita bday.JPG) (denver snow.JPG) Attachments ---------------- Rita bday.JPG (46KB - 8 downloads) denver snow.JPG (52KB - 6 downloads) |
2013-03-25 12:30 PM in reply to: #4673501 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED Asalzwed - 2013-03-26 2:16 AM TriAya - 2013-03-25 12:07 PM bcraht - 2013-03-26 1:52 AM Asalzwed - 2013-03-25 9:17 AM So, as you said, doing the run/walk is a pacing strategy. Does this mean it's something you want to practice throughout all of your different workouts or is it something you more just want to use in a longer run/race? I guess I really don't know much about it other than when it's used as a longer distance race strategy (IE walking through the water stations.) Maybe someone can point me to something that discusses the philosophy? This is from Galloways website. I guess I am just a little bit at a loss of where to go/start. Other than when I first started running, I have never been away from running this long (so that I feel like I am starting completely from the beginning). I did a program through the Running Room for my first (well, only) marathon, and they do run 10/walk 1 min for all runs (their take on run/walk). I took a bit of time off after the mary, then when I went back to training, I sort of 'forgot' about the walk breaks and ran only. That worked fine. Now coming back from injury, my PT wanted me to start back with run/walk just to ease in. She is fine with going to full runs ultimately, but I did pretty well with run walk so am considering going back to it. I dunno. I would like someone to send me to the website www.kirstenscomingbackfrominjuryrunprogram.com So start back with run/walk. Do whatever kind of a ratio lets you do the whole distance/time easy, doing the run part easy and the walk part easy to moderate. The exact ratio really isn't important (unless you are truly doing a Galloway plan for a specific race to the T, which you're not). This part I do agree with Jeff on, though; if you're going to do a run/walk ratio that can be broken down to a shorter-run but equivalent whole-minute ratio, then do the shorter-run one. For example: rather than 10:2, do 5:1. (I don't think I saw any of those in your examples though). His programs just seem SO minimal. I get what he is saying about the walk breaks/ratios. And that is totally fine. But I don't think he is setting anyone up for success. If he spent more time having you actually run, I doubt you would need as much walking. I dunno ... I don't like it at all. If you are not ready to commit to the demand of marathon training time, don't do a marathon. Kirsten, I am not speaking to you. Just to his marathon plan. So don't get me wrong. You need to do what you need to do in order to stay healthy and progressively ramp up your volume. WAIDAMINIT Kirsten is training for a marathon?! I thought she was just trying to get back into running? The thing about Galloway plans--I think I've said this before--that if you're using them to train for especially the longer races like HM or mary, they are a COMPREHENSIVE PLAN and absolutely the only way to (safely) get there with as minimal as his training is, is to do them with the *very* generous run/walk ratios and long-run paces (that get progressively SLOWER) that he recommends. |
2013-03-25 12:31 PM in reply to: #4673529 |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED TriAya - 2013-03-25 12:30 PM Asalzwed - 2013-03-26 2:16 AM TriAya - 2013-03-25 12:07 PM bcraht - 2013-03-26 1:52 AM Asalzwed - 2013-03-25 9:17 AM So, as you said, doing the run/walk is a pacing strategy. Does this mean it's something you want to practice throughout all of your different workouts or is it something you more just want to use in a longer run/race? I guess I really don't know much about it other than when it's used as a longer distance race strategy (IE walking through the water stations.) Maybe someone can point me to something that discusses the philosophy? This is from Galloways website. I guess I am just a little bit at a loss of where to go/start. Other than when I first started running, I have never been away from running this long (so that I feel like I am starting completely from the beginning). I did a program through the Running Room for my first (well, only) marathon, and they do run 10/walk 1 min for all runs (their take on run/walk). I took a bit of time off after the mary, then when I went back to training, I sort of 'forgot' about the walk breaks and ran only. That worked fine. Now coming back from injury, my PT wanted me to start back with run/walk just to ease in. She is fine with going to full runs ultimately, but I did pretty well with run walk so am considering going back to it. I dunno. I would like someone to send me to the website www.kirstenscomingbackfrominjuryrunprogram.com So start back with run/walk. Do whatever kind of a ratio lets you do the whole distance/time easy, doing the run part easy and the walk part easy to moderate. The exact ratio really isn't important (unless you are truly doing a Galloway plan for a specific race to the T, which you're not). This part I do agree with Jeff on, though; if you're going to do a run/walk ratio that can be broken down to a shorter-run but equivalent whole-minute ratio, then do the shorter-run one. For example: rather than 10:2, do 5:1. (I don't think I saw any of those in your examples though). His programs just seem SO minimal. I get what he is saying about the walk breaks/ratios. And that is totally fine. But I don't think he is setting anyone up for success. If he spent more time having you actually run, I doubt you would need as much walking. I dunno ... I don't like it at all. If you are not ready to commit to the demand of marathon training time, don't do a marathon. Kirsten, I am not speaking to you. Just to his marathon plan. So don't get me wrong. You need to do what you need to do in order to stay healthy and progressively ramp up your volume. WAIDAMINIT Kirsten is training for a marathon?! I thought she was just trying to get back into running? The thing about Galloway plans--I think I've said this before--that if you're using them to train for especially the longer races like HM or mary, they are a COMPREHENSIVE PLAN and absolutely the only way to (safely) get there with as minimal as his training is, is to do them with the *very* generous run/walk ratios and long-run paces (that get progressively SLOWER) that he recommends. No, she's not but I don't think I can speak to a program (any part of one) that I disagree with so much. I think it's awful. |
2013-03-25 12:33 PM in reply to: #4651276 |
Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED What a beautiful spring day! The sun is shining, the birds are singing, buds are popping ... oh wait, here's what really happened: Edited by melbo55 2013-03-25 12:34 PM (3_25.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 3_25.jpg (31KB - 6 downloads) |
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2013-03-25 12:35 PM in reply to: #4673528 |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED rrrunner - 2013-03-25 12:29 PM JANYNE IS A ROCK STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I didn't get to try the Clover coffee because of a snowstorm in Denver I didn't get to run this weekend because of a snowstorm in Denver I am in a lousy taper-PMS mood I would love some yummy Indonesian coffee I leave for O'side in 3 days My MIL is a saint Hmmm, still some good stuff in there! 3 days, w00t w00t!!! |
2013-03-25 12:35 PM in reply to: #4673535 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED melbo55 - 2013-03-25 11:33 AM What a beautiful spring day! The sun is shining, the birds are singing, buds are popping ... oh wait, here's what really happened: ICK!!!!!!!!!! That's what I had in Denver! Now I'm back to my beautiful sunny desert! |
2013-03-25 12:36 PM in reply to: #4673440 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED TriAya - 2013-03-25 12:45 PM Asalzwed - 2013-03-26 1:37 AM Sooo, I'm starting a gradual 3 week taper. I am asking you all to help me make GOOD decisions and not be tempted to fill my extra time with things like mountain climbing, snowboarding and all night dance parties. With the exception of this coming weekend, I get a free pass. So where's my invite to the all-night dance party then? Actually, it is a dance party, mountain climbing, snowboarding invite that you should be receiving. It is probably in the mail |
2013-03-25 12:37 PM in reply to: #4673545 |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Mental Manatee Mentors Part 3--CLOSED cdban66 - 2013-03-25 12:36 PM TriAya - 2013-03-25 12:45 PM Asalzwed - 2013-03-26 1:37 AM Sooo, I'm starting a gradual 3 week taper. I am asking you all to help me make GOOD decisions and not be tempted to fill my extra time with things like mountain climbing, snowboarding and all night dance parties. With the exception of this coming weekend, I get a free pass. So where's my invite to the all-night dance party then? Actually, it is a dance party, mountain climbing, snowboarding invite that you should be receiving. It is probably in the mail Yes, you will get it in exactly 4 months. |
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