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DDVMM - 2012-02-03 1:18 PM

With all the talk about diet and nutrition, I have a question for you. I started a strength training program 10 weeks ago that called for no cardio for 4 weeks. I stuck to that  for the most part except for 2 prescheduled 5K's. I was eating clean already so no real change to diet. During that 4 weeks with virtually no cardio, I dropped 8 pounds like it was nothing. After the 4 weeks I started back with moderate cardio and my weight has been creeping up since with no change in diet. All last year, while training for the tri's and HM's my weight was pretty stable and I couldn't lose anything even at my most productive weeks,even though I always want to lose 5 pounds.

So, what is it about cardio that seems to keep the weight on? I log my food at myfitnesspal.com (Scott, anyone?)and I would love for someone to look at my food diary and tell me where I am going wrong. I try to eat at 40% carbs/40% protein/20% fat. Some days are better than others. Any thoughts?

I don't know that you actually dropped fat while doing no cardio.  I'm thinking you have some fluid retention issues that are related to the cardio (I find it easier to drop weight in rest weeks than in weeks when I'm doing 20+ hours).

With regard to the diet, if you want to drop quickly that 40% carbs is high.  The most effective way to cut weight fast is to cut out carbs (although there is a potentially adverse effect on the quality of your cardio training).

Weight loss (especially when you don't have a lot to loose and are already doing most thing "right") can be a really tricky proposition particularly when you're female and getting older (none of us are 18 anymore).



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kaburns1214 - 2012-02-03 11:18 AM I trained today!  For the first time in a week.  Yes it was a ZR bike but it was good to do something.

 

Glad you are back to training!How do you feel?

Still have some chest tightness / wheezing.  Going to take it fairly easy this weekend and going to skip the rest week and 20K next week so my trailing volume doesn't get too low. 

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carrie639 - 2012-02-03 11:18 AM 1 word ... Immodium!

Immodium can be dangerous because it pulls water out of your large intenstine, which can cause dehydration issues when coupled with training. 

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kaburns1214 - 2012-02-03 11:18 AM I trained today!  For the first time in a week.  Yes it was a ZR bike but it was good to do something.

 

Glad you are back to training!How do you feel?

Still have some chest tightness / wheezing.  Going to take it fairly easy this weekend and going to skip the rest week and 20K next week so my trailing volume doesn't get too low. 

Sounds better. Don't rush your recovery. You do not want to relapse!! Oh, and take some vitamin C!!
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kaburns1214 - 2012-02-03 5:17 PM
DDVMM - 2012-02-03 1:18 PM

With all the talk about diet and nutrition, I have a question for you. I started a strength training program 10 weeks ago that called for no cardio for 4 weeks. I stuck to that  for the most part except for 2 prescheduled 5K's. I was eating clean already so no real change to diet. During that 4 weeks with virtually no cardio, I dropped 8 pounds like it was nothing. After the 4 weeks I started back with moderate cardio and my weight has been creeping up since with no change in diet. All last year, while training for the tri's and HM's my weight was pretty stable and I couldn't lose anything even at my most productive weeks,even though I always want to lose 5 pounds.

So, what is it about cardio that seems to keep the weight on? I log my food at myfitnesspal.com (Scott, anyone?)and I would love for someone to look at my food diary and tell me where I am going wrong. I try to eat at 40% carbs/40% protein/20% fat. Some days are better than others. Any thoughts?

I don't know that you actually dropped fat while doing no cardio.  I'm thinking you have some fluid retention issues that are related to the cardio (I find it easier to drop weight in rest weeks than in weeks when I'm doing 20+ hours).

With regard to the diet, if you want to drop quickly that 40% carbs is high.  The most effective way to cut weight fast is to cut out carbs (although there is a potentially adverse effect on the quality of your cardio training).

Weight loss (especially when you don't have a lot to loose and are already doing most thing "right") can be a really tricky proposition particularly when you're female and getting older (none of us are 18 anymore).

How do you know if it's water retention and how do you get rid of it? You're right, I'm far away from 18!! Do you think a 50 protein/ 30 carb/20 fat is better? Ugh. It is so frustrating!! I have been watching so carefully- but I know you all understand how frustrating it really is.
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DDVMM - 2012-02-03 1:18 PM

With all the talk about diet and nutrition, I have a question for you. I started a strength training program 10 weeks ago that called for no cardio for 4 weeks. I stuck to that  for the most part except for 2 prescheduled 5K's. I was eating clean already so no real change to diet. During that 4 weeks with virtually no cardio, I dropped 8 pounds like it was nothing. After the 4 weeks I started back with moderate cardio and my weight has been creeping up since with no change in diet. All last year, while training for the tri's and HM's my weight was pretty stable and I couldn't lose anything even at my most productive weeks,even though I always want to lose 5 pounds.

So, what is it about cardio that seems to keep the weight on? I log my food at myfitnesspal.com (Scott, anyone?)and I would love for someone to look at my food diary and tell me where I am going wrong. I try to eat at 40% carbs/40% protein/20% fat. Some days are better than others. Any thoughts?

I don't know that you actually dropped fat while doing no cardio.  I'm thinking you have some fluid retention issues that are related to the cardio (I find it easier to drop weight in rest weeks than in weeks when I'm doing 20+ hours).

With regard to the diet, if you want to drop quickly that 40% carbs is high.  The most effective way to cut weight fast is to cut out carbs (although there is a potentially adverse effect on the quality of your cardio training).

Weight loss (especially when you don't have a lot to loose and are already doing most thing "right") can be a really tricky proposition particularly when you're female and getting older (none of us are 18 anymore).

How do you know if it's water retention and how do you get rid of it? You're right, I'm far away from 18!! Do you think a 50 protein/ 30 carb/20 fat is better? Ugh. It is so frustrating!! I have been watching so carefully- but I know you all understand how frustrating it really is.

Getting rid of water retention usually can be done by drinking more.  My "heaviest" day of the week is Monday because its after my two longest days of training.  You can also use things that help with water retention like green tea.

With regard to protein-carbs-fat, I find what usually works best is having a hard cap on the number of carbs usually 50-75 grams.  And tweaking it up and down depending on results.  Some people need to go really low.  Also your body needs a lot of water to digest carbs -- about 3 - 4 mL of water per 1 gram of carbs, so when you eat carbs your body tends to store additional water (and thus you "gain" weight). 



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My daughter who is 4 has double pnenioumia so I think I will be tied to the house. No SkiingCry

Never heard of double pneumonia but that can't be good.  Hope she recovers quickly.

Not good.  I will say a prayer for her.

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Folks 

Thanks for all the thoughts and prayers for my daughter her name is Elena. My family is very greatful !!

She is doing a little better today however the fever is still there just not as high.

 

8.3 mile run tonight, Avg HR 145 pace 8:00 mpm good day!!

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triguy1043 - 2012-02-03 6:49 PM

Folks 

Thanks for all the thoughts and prayers for my daughter her name is Elena. My family is very greatful !!

She is doing a little better today however the fever is still there just not as high.

 

8.3 mile run tonight, Avg HR 145 pace 8:00 mpm good day!!

Hope for a speedy recovery for Elena. It is much harder when our kids are sick than when we are. Take care
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Hope your daughter heals fast ... it is tough seeing a child sick.
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triguy1043 - 2012-02-03 6:49 PM

Folks 

Thanks for all the thoughts and prayers for my daughter her name is Elena. My family is very greatful !!

She is doing a little better today however the fever is still there just not as high.

 

8.3 mile run tonight, Avg HR 145 pace 8:00 mpm good day!!

 

Hope she gets better soon. I went through a nasty battle with pneumonia about 7 years ago and wish that on no one. 



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triguy1043 - 2012-02-03 8:49 PM

Folks 

Thanks for all the thoughts and prayers for my daughter her name is Elena. My family is very greatful !!

She is doing a little better today however the fever is still there just not as high.

 

8.3 mile run tonight, Avg HR 145 pace 8:00 mpm good day!!

Thinking of you today . . . hope she's feeling better this morning.

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On the recipe front -- here's my recipe for pumpkin pie bread, I use this as power bar replacement on long bike rides (and its yummy, Shaun will even eat it).

 

2 2/3 c. whole wheat flour

1 c. slow cook oats

2 c. honey

2 tsp baking soda

6 scoops vanilla whey protein

2 tsp cinnamin

1 tsp nutmeg

1 tsp cardamon

1 tsp cloves

2 tsp vanilla

1 c. unsweetened applesauce

4 eggs

2 c. canned pumpkin

Pour the batter into an 8 x 13 cake pan, bake at 325 for about 45 minutes or until a toothpick comes out clean.  Cut loaf into 20 even sized pieces. 

Nutrition breakdown:  Carbs - 40g, Protein 10g, Fat 2g

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Off day. Today has been dubbed family fun cleaning day. Yay?
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uhcoog - 2012-02-04 9:34 AM Off day. Today has been dubbed family fun cleaning day. Yay?

 


I love family fun cleaning days!

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Today will start with a bout of herding cats at the 2nd grade basketball games and then up to the mountains for some x-country skiing with friends. My granddaughter is playing and she is so proud that as the only girl on the team, the boys tell her she is their best player. She is about the only one who makes baskets for them. Pretty good for being taught by her granny.


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Artist - 2012-02-04 10:24 AMToday will start with a bout of herding cats at the 2nd grade basketball games and then up to the mountains for some x-country skiing with friends. My granddaughter is playing and she is so proud that as the only girl on the team, the boys tell her she is their best player. She is about the only one who makes baskets for them. Pretty good for being taught by her granny.
Aw, that's so cool.
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uhcoog - 2012-02-04 9:34 AM Off day. Today has been dubbed family fun cleaning day. Yay?

 

I find cleaning days are much more efficient when the family is not around!LOL Too many little hands 'helping'! That said, my 3 year old did made toilets blue the other day by 'cleaning' them for me!

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Anyone up for a water consumption challenge for 7 days? Each person set a goal of how much water they want to consume and see if they can do it for a week? I am a terrible drinker - I have 2 cups of coffee in the am and that could be it for the day! I am always dehydrated!
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Woke up at 6:00 am to get in my 2 hour trainer ride. Before the family woke up.

My daughter is still battling this sickness, but it could be much worst. God is Good!! And we are blessed by all your prayers and thoughts.

My wife is awesome as she still allows me to train with a sick child a great team mate to have!!

Tomorrow 7:00 am 1 hour ZR run!!

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So I was watching a show on the Military channel called, "Surviving the Cut".  It is about guys that are in particular program (seals, parajumpers, etc) and what the program puts them through to pass.  HOLY COW

The one group had to do a 3 mile run on the beach in full clothing and boots under 22 minutes!  And not all of these guys were 19 year olds.



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I don't really need  a water challenge, but I would suggest maybe drinking water that is ice cold - lots of ice.  Makes it taste better.  Also, drink water with all your meals.  It is hard to become a water drinker ... I can sometimes get in a slump where my body is constantly begging for Pepsi, which is like a snickers bar for me.  A Pepsi fountain drink is impossible for me to walk away from.
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G'day guys, 

I woke up Saturday morning feeling quite fluey, so canceled my long bike. After a very lazy day felt a bit better so got it done Sunday. Only 2 hours, but that's me done for my rest week. 

On the recipe front, I live on my own so eat pretty simply, but one of my favourites is a lamb and warm kumara (NZ sweet potato) salad. Like i say, I'm not much of a chef, so this recipe may not make much sense, but here goes: 

1. cut kumara into 1/2 inch cubes, roast. 

2. dust lamb steaks (or fillets if the budget allows) with Moroccan seasoning, grill until medium rare

3. salad is made from rocket, halved cherry tomatoes, red/yellow capsicums and raw pistachio nut.

4. Dressing is 2 Tbl spoon extra virgin olive oil, 1 Tbl spoon vinaigrette, 1 Tea spoon each: dijon mustard and honey. a sprinkle of ground paprika, salt and pepper to taste. mix it all up. 

5. it all has to be timed so everything is ready about the same time, add kumara to the salad, dress and toss the salad, put onto plates. 

6. Slice lamb thinly, arrange on top of the salad, and sprinkle a small amount of feta on top to finish. 

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Morning everyone.

I have a planned rest day today and then I get back to "normal" tomorrow.  The goal for today is to draft a pre-trial brief for work (although one of my cats keeps laying down on the keyboard -- he's a big cuddler).

Anyone have fun Super Bowl plans?

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First day back on the trainer. But mostly hanging on with one arm. Awkward. 90 minute trainer rideable morning. Now let's see if I don't use that as an excuse to eat everything in site today. Have a great day.
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