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2011-02-23 9:17 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2011-02-23 8:12 AM  

I think it just shows that most people train too hard.  These same numbers resulted in a 1:56 half marathon time (high 8s).  If you pay attention to your HR and train at "easier" paces you're less likely to get injured, you improve your aerobic efficieny and you're able to build durability because you can run for longer. 

It just takes a mind shift that training runs are for training -- and that the pace really doesn't matter (within reason).


Probably explains my heel right now... 
2011-02-23 10:27 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2011-02-23 6:22 AM
uhcoog - 2011-02-22 7:48 PM
kaburns1214 - 2011-02-22 6:26 PM
uhcoog - 2011-02-22 6:21 PM Took Feb. progress photos today.  I then compared them to photos of me from Disney World last March.  Triathlon has been very, very good to me.


You're not going to post them?


So I have shirtless pics of me from last March, but I wouldn't do that to you so here's me last March:

Me 3/10/10

Me Now:

Me Now


Looking good!

Aladin is a little creepy, but you look really good!


bwahahaha...Aladdin is super creepy. 

You look fantastic!  Isn't it nice to see all the hard work pay off?  Keep it up! 
2011-02-23 10:33 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2011-02-23 7:52 AM So there have been a lot of questions about heart rate and training paces and I thought this might be useful:

http://www.runcalculator.com/

If you put your 5K time and training volume into calculator it gives you approximate training paces for ZR, Z1 and Z2 (remember these correspond with BT/Friel training paces of Z1, Z2 and Z3) and will project your time for any race distance.  For example if you run a 25 minute 5K and run 20 miles a week and bike 100 miles a week your training paces are as follows:

ZR 11:13 - 12:18
Z1 10:07 - 10:51
Z2 9:24 - 10:07

Goes to show that when training with HR, you pace is MUCH MUCH slower than race pace.


yikes...interesting but depressing at the same time  


Agree
2011-02-23 10:39 AM
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Why do triathlon tops suck so much?  Seriously.  They are so short!  I am 5'9" and they show my entire midsection.  I had 4 children in 5 years, so I doubt anyone really wants to see that.  LOL

I've tried different shorts, and I LOVE the Zoots.  They are the most comfortable.  Do you think I could just wear a sports bra & tri shorts under my wetsuit and toss on a running shirt once I'm in TI?  Just thinking about details.....
2011-02-23 10:46 AM
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jarvy01 - 2011-02-23 10:39 AM Why do triathlon tops suck so much?  Seriously.  They are so short!  I am 5'9" and they show my entire midsection.  I had 4 children in 5 years, so I doubt anyone really wants to see that.  LOL

I've tried different shorts, and I LOVE the Zoots.  They are the most comfortable.  Do you think I could just wear a sports bra & tri shorts under my wetsuit and toss on a running shirt once I'm in TI?  Just thinking about details.....


distance??  shorter races you can get away with a compression top.  basically any race where the pockets are not used compression tops are ok 

2011-02-23 10:59 AM
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jarvy01 - 2011-02-23 11:39 AM Why do triathlon tops suck so much?  Seriously.  They are so short!  I am 5'9" and they show my entire midsection.  I had 4 children in 5 years, so I doubt anyone really wants to see that.  LOL

I've tried different shorts, and I LOVE the Zoots.  They are the most comfortable.  Do you think I could just wear a sports bra & tri shorts under my wetsuit and toss on a running shirt once I'm in TI?  Just thinking about details.....


I'm 5' 9" too and have a similar problem -- I love these:

http://www.teamestrogen.com/prodSU_20658F.html

For some reason they see to be longer than normal tri tops.

The problem with throwing a shirt on in T1 is that its a lot harder to get a shirt on soaking wet than you think.

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kaburns1214 - 2011-02-23 11:59 AM
jarvy01 - 2011-02-23 11:39 AM Why do triathlon tops suck so much?  Seriously.  They are so short!  I am 5'9" and they show my entire midsection.  I had 4 children in 5 years, so I doubt anyone really wants to see that.  LOL

I've tried different shorts, and I LOVE the Zoots.  They are the most comfortable.  Do you think I could just wear a sports bra & tri shorts under my wetsuit and toss on a running shirt once I'm in TI?  Just thinking about details.....


I'm 5' 9" too and have a similar problem -- I love these:

http://www.teamestrogen.com/prodSU_20658F.html

For some reason they see to be longer than normal tri tops.

The problem with throwing a shirt on in T1 is that its a lot harder to get a shirt on soaking wet than you think.


Maybe I'll give that one a try.  Does it highlight the midsection (in other words....will I have a nasty muffintop??)? 
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jarvy01 - 2011-02-23 11:39 AM Why do triathlon tops suck so much?  Seriously.  They are so short!  I am 5'9" and they show my entire midsection.  I had 4 children in 5 years, so I doubt anyone really wants to see that.  LOL

I've tried different shorts, and I LOVE the Zoots.  They are the most comfortable.  Do you think I could just wear a sports bra & tri shorts under my wetsuit and toss on a running shirt once I'm in TI?  Just thinking about details.....


I'm 5' 9" too and have a similar problem -- I love these:

http://www.teamestrogen.com/prodSU_20658F.html

For some reason they see to be longer than normal tri tops.

The problem with throwing a shirt on in T1 is that its a lot harder to get a shirt on soaking wet than you think.


Maybe I'll give that one a try.  Does it highlight the midsection (in other words....will I have a nasty muffintop??)? 


no, its actually fairly loose (for a tri top) on the stomach.
2011-02-23 1:49 PM
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thanks for sharing that link-I am only 5"4 and still hate where some tops sit when running.
2011-02-23 2:45 PM
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Got in an outside ride today (16 miles)...ankle/achilles or whatever it is felt good on the bike. I still won't be running anytime soon, though. 

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Garmin 310xt question:

I know you can customize your screens, but can you get 4 screens showing HR, distance, pace and time???

I have a garmin 405 (I think) and HR is really, really tiny and I use that to determine my pace so I want it as big as the other data.
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carrie639 - 2011-02-23 4:17 PM

Garmin 310xt question:

I know you can customize your screens, but can you get 4 screens showing HR, distance, pace and time???

I have a garmin 405 (I think) and HR is really, really tiny and I use that to determine my pace so I want it as big as the other data.


I'm pretty sure 4 screens are available... if not, you can certainly split two screens in half with two parameters on each screen.
Half the screen is plenty big enough for me to see while training.
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carrie639 - 2011-02-23 6:17 PM Garmin 310xt question:

I know you can customize your screens, but can you get 4 screens showing HR, distance, pace and time???

I have a garmin 405 (I think) and HR is really, really tiny and I use that to determine my pace so I want it as big as the other data.


Yes.

I had a 405 and hated it.  I sold it and got a 310XT, which I LOVE!
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kaburns1214 - 2011-02-23 7:33 PM
carrie639 - 2011-02-23 6:17 PM Garmin 310xt question:

I know you can customize your screens, but can you get 4 screens showing HR, distance, pace and time???

I have a garmin 405 (I think) and HR is really, really tiny and I use that to determine my pace so I want it as big as the other data.


Yes.

I had a 405 and hated it.  I sold it and got a 310XT, which I LOVE!


Do a search on www.dcrainmaker.com - he does a lot of in depth reviews, and I know he did one on Garmin screens, but I don't remember which models.

I have a 305 that I really like.  It looks HUGE and it is pretty big, but you don't notice it because its not heavy.
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I ended up on the rollers tonight for the first time.  I was supposed to go to the gym, but I left my gym bag home. 

Rollers are hard.  I rode for 17 minutes and I'm wiped out, but not my legs.  My shoulders, back and arms are sore (not sore really - tired?)

I set up in the hallway and bounced off the walls for the first five minutes or so.  I only rode off the rollers once and didn't break anything (property or bodily).  I still have to figure out how to ride in a straight line - its incredible how quickly you can zip from one side of the roller to the other.  And the weirdest thing is that when you start getting wobbly you shouldn't slow down, but speed up to get the gyro effect of the wheels on your side.

But geez - just 17 minutes and I was tired and dripping with sweat.  Next time I open the door and put on a fan.  18 minutes here I come!!

BTW, I logged distance by figuring out my average speed from last year really crudely - total miles / total time = 13.5 mph

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kaburns1214 - 2011-02-23 9:52 AM So there have been a lot of questions about heart rate and training paces and I thought this might be useful:

http://www.runcalculator.com/

If you put your 5K time and training volume into calculator it gives you approximate training paces for ZR, Z1 and Z2 (remember these correspond with BT/Friel training paces of Z1, Z2 and Z3) and will project your time for any race distance.  For example if you run a 25 minute 5K and run 20 miles a week and bike 100 miles a week your training paces are as follows:

ZR 11:13 - 12:18
Z1 10:07 - 10:51
Z2 9:24 - 10:07

Goes to show that when training with HR, you pace is MUCH MUCH slower than race pace.


Here are mine for a 1/2 mary.  looks pretty spot on - i think i can drive to under 1:50 in the next month. 

  
         
Custom Race Distance:
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5k:
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5 Mile:
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10k:
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Half Marathon:
    min/mile 
Marathon:
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Zone R:
  
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Zone 1:
  
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Zone 2:
  
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5K Repeats:

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1 Mile Repeats:
  min/mileWhat do these intensity ranges and repeat paces mean? Visit QT2's FREE Member area for more info!
1/2 Mile Repeats:
  min/mile 
1/4 Mile Repeats:
  min/mile
2011-02-23 8:16 PM
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bwingate - 2011-02-23 9:08 PM

I ended up on the rollers tonight for the first time.  I was supposed to go to the gym, but I left my gym bag home. 

Rollers are hard.  I rode for 17 minutes and I'm wiped out, but not my legs.  My shoulders, back and arms are sore (not sore really - tired?)

I set up in the hallway and bounced off the walls for the first five minutes or so.  I only rode off the rollers once and didn't break anything (property or bodily).  I still have to figure out how to ride in a straight line - its incredible how quickly you can zip from one side of the roller to the other.  And the weirdest thing is that when you start getting wobbly you shouldn't slow down, but speed up to get the gyro effect of the wheels on your side.

But geez - just 17 minutes and I was tired and dripping with sweat.  Next time I open the door and put on a fan.  18 minutes here I come!!

BTW, I logged distance by figuring out my average speed from last year really crudely - total miles / total time = 13.5 mph



good to have anotehr roller friend! its crazy hard. 
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I love the 305, it works fine, but had to wear a separate HR watch on my run.  I want to see them all on 1 screen (time, distance, pace, HR) and I don't want to hit buttons to change screens.

On the 305, it is on the screen, but is so tiny you can't really see it, especially if you are training based on HR.
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carrie639 - 2011-02-23 11:36 PM I love the 305, it works fine, but had to wear a separate HR watch on my run.  I want to see them all on 1 screen (time, distance, pace, HR) and I don't want to hit buttons to change screens.

On the 305, it is on the screen, but is so tiny you can't really see it, especially if you are training based on HR.


On the 301XT you can evenly split the screen into 4s and have time, distance, pace and HR.
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carrie639 - 2011-02-23 11:36 PM I love the 305, it works fine, but had to wear a separate HR watch on my run.  I want to see them all on 1 screen (time, distance, pace, HR) and I don't want to hit buttons to change screens.

On the 305, it is on the screen, but is so tiny you can't really see it, especially if you are training based on HR.


I have these four displayed on my 305.  Its on my second screen that I just switch to if I want (one button push to switch screens and it stays there).  But I agree, on the main default screen, HR is so tiny that it might as well not be there.

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carrie639 - 2011-02-23 11:36 PM I love the 305, it works fine, but had to wear a separate HR watch on my run.  I want to see them all on 1 screen (time, distance, pace, HR) and I don't want to hit buttons to change screens.

On the 305, it is on the screen, but is so tiny you can't really see it, especially if you are training based on HR.
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on the 305 you can have 4 screens, the face of the 310 is no bigger than the 305 so if you cant seen the numbers on the 305 the 310 wont help, although the 310 can be worn in the water which means you dont have to put it on in T1 or on the bike.
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Easy run this morning + long swim tonight

Started Hal Higdon's beginner HM plan this week.  I originally was going to try the intermediate, but I had to back down.  It starts off slowly, so I should be good with this one. 

I'm visiting my family out of town this weekend, so I won't be online at all.  Have a great weekend!
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jarvy01 - 2011-02-24 7:27 AM Easy run this morning + long swim tonight

Started Hal Higdon's beginner HM plan this week.  I originally was going to try the intermediate, but I had to back down.  It starts off slowly, so I should be good with this one. 

I'm visiting my family out of town this weekend, so I won't be online at all.  Have a great weekend!


I've used Higdon's plans for my last two marathons and for the current one I'm training for.  They work well and that should have you prepared just fine.

Which HM are you doing?
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Rode the bike this morning and mad a pit stop at the gym to lift.  They just put together a $20 club tri there.  10 minutes in the pool, 30 minutes on a spin bike, and 10 on the dreadmill.  Not sure if I'm gonna do it.  My competitive nature will take over and I may push too hard.  That and I HATE pool swims.
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