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2012-11-01 1:10 PM
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Kido - 2012-11-01 1:01 PM

GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 10:56 AM
mehaner - 2012-11-01 1:52 PM
Kido - 2012-11-01 1:50 PM

Well, based on what I have been told/hear from parents.  I have come to expect that I will have tons of freedom and fun in my life until I have a kid.  Then have to take a time out for 18-20 years of absolute misery and ZERO freedom/fun.  Then they leave the house, and the fun starts again?

Is that about right?

and nothing is hard without kids either.  you have no rights to complain about things because you don't have kids, don't forget that.

but yes, the "life becomes miserable" thing is the number one reason i am SO turned off from having kids right now, or ever.....

What I will say is that my wife came out here for 5 days without kids and it was fantastic.  We lived like we did before the kids. 

But life is tough no matter what.  But it could always be worse...

There is obviously a lot of wonderful things that you get with kids.  Othewise everyone wouldn't be having them.  But I have been asking myself a lot recently, why give that up?

I love nice dinners, a free schedule, traveling, nights out, watching what I want on TV, QUIET.  Seems like you are 100% about the kids, especially the fist 8-10 years.  After that, they can take care of themselves to some point.



I dont like screaming children. That's why I dont have them. Because they're loud and noisy and smelly and needy.

I don't like needy.


2012-11-01 1:12 PM
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Teejaay - 2012-11-01 11:07 AM
Kido - 2012-11-01 10:50 AM

Well, based on what I have been told/hear from parents.  I have come to expect that I will have tons of freedom and fun in my life until I have a kid.  Then have to take a time out for 18-20 years of absolute misery and ZERO freedom/fun.  Then they leave the house, and the fun starts again?

Is that about right?

I don't know if that's true. They are yours for life and who knows when they will need you. But you can maintain your identity outside of your kids and live your life for you too. It's not a reason to stop being a sexual being or an independent being or pursuing your path in life and doing what is best and healthy for you which in turn will benefit your kid. Trust me ....I've been given more grief for the choices I've made.

BTW...  I was sort of joking.  I know it's not 18 years of misery.

There's good and bad.

And generally, people LOVE to beotch.  Misery loves company make more and more sense every day.

We all do it.  Just said this the other day to someone.  Everyone doing IM's beotch about how hard training is.  But secretly, it's sort of bragging.  So that "GAWD, my 7 hour, 150 mile ride just SUCKED yesterday".  Is REALLY "Look what I did beotches!  7 hours and 150 miles!  Take THAT!"

2012-11-01 1:13 PM
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mr2tony - 2012-11-01 11:10 AM
Kido - 2012-11-01 1:01 PM
GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 10:56 AM
mehaner - 2012-11-01 1:52 PM
Kido - 2012-11-01 1:50 PM

Well, based on what I have been told/hear from parents.  I have come to expect that I will have tons of freedom and fun in my life until I have a kid.  Then have to take a time out for 18-20 years of absolute misery and ZERO freedom/fun.  Then they leave the house, and the fun starts again?

Is that about right?

and nothing is hard without kids either.  you have no rights to complain about things because you don't have kids, don't forget that.

but yes, the "life becomes miserable" thing is the number one reason i am SO turned off from having kids right now, or ever.....

What I will say is that my wife came out here for 5 days without kids and it was fantastic.  We lived like we did before the kids. 

But life is tough no matter what.  But it could always be worse...

There is obviously a lot of wonderful things that you get with kids.  Othewise everyone wouldn't be having them.  But I have been asking myself a lot recently, why give that up?

I love nice dinners, a free schedule, traveling, nights out, watching what I want on TV, QUIET.  Seems like you are 100% about the kids, especially the fist 8-10 years.  After that, they can take care of themselves to some point.

I dont like screaming children. That's why I dont have them. Because they're loud and noisy and smelly and needy. I don't like needy.

I'm going to build a sound proof panic room...

Just not sure if I want to lock myself in there, or the kids...

2012-11-01 1:14 PM
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I'm hungry...
2012-11-01 1:15 PM
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Kido - 2012-11-01 1:12 PM
Teejaay - 2012-11-01 11:07 AM
Kido - 2012-11-01 10:50 AM

Well, based on what I have been told/hear from parents.  I have come to expect that I will have tons of freedom and fun in my life until I have a kid.  Then have to take a time out for 18-20 years of absolute misery and ZERO freedom/fun.  Then they leave the house, and the fun starts again?

Is that about right?

I don't know if that's true. They are yours for life and who knows when they will need you. But you can maintain your identity outside of your kids and live your life for you too. It's not a reason to stop being a sexual being or an independent being or pursuing your path in life and doing what is best and healthy for you which in turn will benefit your kid. Trust me ....I've been given more grief for the choices I've made.

BTW...  I was sort of joking.  I know it's not 18 years of misery.

There's good and bad.

And generally, people LOVE to beotch.  Misery loves company make more and more sense every day.

We all do it.  Just said this the other day to someone.  Everyone doing IM's beotch about how hard training is.  But secretly, it's sort of bragging.  So that "GAWD, my 7 hour, 150 mile ride just SUCKED yesterday".  Is REALLY "Look what I did beotches!  7 hours and 150 miles!  Take THAT!"

 

BINGO!  I think you nailed it, parents want other parents to think they are the best, just like anyone else wants. I hate it when people make a big deal about kids, you know in a way that they say things so you hear them say it even though they aren;t talking to you? Know what I mean???

2012-11-01 1:16 PM
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Kido - 2012-11-01 2:14 PM I'm hungry...

i just ate almonds and an apple and have a fun size 3 musketeers begging to be eaten.  it's the last piece left of my trick or treat candy and it looks lonely.



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Kido - 2012-11-01 2:13 PM
mr2tony - 2012-11-01 11:10 AM
Kido - 2012-11-01 1:01 PM
GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 10:56 AM
mehaner - 2012-11-01 1:52 PM
Kido - 2012-11-01 1:50 PM

Well, based on what I have been told/hear from parents.  I have come to expect that I will have tons of freedom and fun in my life until I have a kid.  Then have to take a time out for 18-20 years of absolute misery and ZERO freedom/fun.  Then they leave the house, and the fun starts again?

Is that about right?

and nothing is hard without kids either.  you have no rights to complain about things because you don't have kids, don't forget that.

but yes, the "life becomes miserable" thing is the number one reason i am SO turned off from having kids right now, or ever.....

What I will say is that my wife came out here for 5 days without kids and it was fantastic.  We lived like we did before the kids. 

But life is tough no matter what.  But it could always be worse...

There is obviously a lot of wonderful things that you get with kids.  Othewise everyone wouldn't be having them.  But I have been asking myself a lot recently, why give that up?

I love nice dinners, a free schedule, traveling, nights out, watching what I want on TV, QUIET.  Seems like you are 100% about the kids, especially the fist 8-10 years.  After that, they can take care of themselves to some point.

I dont like screaming children. That's why I dont have them. Because they're loud and noisy and smelly and needy. I don't like needy.

I'm going to build a sound proof panic room...

Just not sure if I want to lock myself in there, or the kids...

The kids, trust me it works much better that way, add the dogs too and peace will reign for a little while.

2012-11-01 1:18 PM
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jford2309 - 2012-11-01 2:15 PM
Kido - 2012-11-01 1:12 PM
Teejaay - 2012-11-01 11:07 AM
Kido - 2012-11-01 10:50 AM

Well, based on what I have been told/hear from parents.  I have come to expect that I will have tons of freedom and fun in my life until I have a kid.  Then have to take a time out for 18-20 years of absolute misery and ZERO freedom/fun.  Then they leave the house, and the fun starts again?

Is that about right?

I don't know if that's true. They are yours for life and who knows when they will need you. But you can maintain your identity outside of your kids and live your life for you too. It's not a reason to stop being a sexual being or an independent being or pursuing your path in life and doing what is best and healthy for you which in turn will benefit your kid. Trust me ....I've been given more grief for the choices I've made.

BTW...  I was sort of joking.  I know it's not 18 years of misery.

There's good and bad.

And generally, people LOVE to beotch.  Misery loves company make more and more sense every day.

We all do it.  Just said this the other day to someone.  Everyone doing IM's beotch about how hard training is.  But secretly, it's sort of bragging.  So that "GAWD, my 7 hour, 150 mile ride just SUCKED yesterday".  Is REALLY "Look what I did beotches!  7 hours and 150 miles!  Take THAT!"

 

BINGO!  I think you nailed it, parents want other parents to think they are the best, just like anyone else wants. I hate it when people make a big deal about kids, you know in a way that they say things so you hear them say it even though they aren;t talking to you? Know what I mean???

Oh I see you've met my boss.  You know both of her children go to the gifted program, they don't just go to school they go to the gifted program and take field trips... with the gifted program and...

2012-11-01 1:18 PM
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lisac957 - 2012-11-01 2:08 PM The beauty of this world is that we can all decide for ourselves what is right for us and no one else. Kum-bah-yah mo'fos.

But I agree with teh Kido and teh Meh... I have friends who constantly post things like how nice it would be to go on vacation but oh the SACRIFICE I make for my FOUR kids, blahblahblah.... sorry honey but you chose that life! 4 times in a row!

i hide a LOT of people from my facebook feed for this crap.

2012-11-01 1:19 PM
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I could never be a parent because I'd get fed up with the screaming and whining and smelling and such and just leave them on the street somewhere. I hear that's not legal in some states. Mostly the blue hippie liberal ones.
2012-11-01 1:19 PM
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mehaner - 2012-11-01 2:16 PM

Kido - 2012-11-01 2:14 PM I'm hungry...

i just ate almonds and an apple and have a fun size 3 musketeers begging to be eaten.  it's the last piece left of my trick or treat candy and it looks lonely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hHDxlm66dE



2012-11-01 1:19 PM
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mehaner - 2012-11-01 11:16 AM

Kido - 2012-11-01 2:14 PM I'm hungry...

i just ate almonds and an apple and have a fun size 3 musketeers begging to be eaten.  it's the last piece left of my trick or treat candy and it looks lonely.

That's exactly what I ate!  Minus the almonds and apple...  And the 3 muskateers was full size, and it was two of them...

So exactly the same!



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The ones that complain are usually the same ones that are all like "when are you going to have kids".

Also....there the ones that blow up FB with their perfect family scenarios (my BIL and SIL are constantly doing that.....but I know A LOT different)

I wouldn't trade anything for my kiddos.....would it be nice to be "free" and to have a ton more cash in the bank.....sure it would, but I need someone to take care of me when I'm old and I need someone to tell me I'm uncool, cuz, right now I'm cool.....


2012-11-01 1:20 PM
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Teejaay - 2012-11-01 1:48 PM Yep. I've never liked kids. I have a kid. My fiends have kids. But I never ever got caught up in being a mommy and making my whole life about my kid. That's not for me. And I avoid my friends that do. I have had friends that when we make plans to have dinner or do an event they want to include their kids. If I didn't include my kid why the heck would I want to hang around yours? Some friends have no identity outside of their kids and are usually the ones offended.

I have 2 kids (as you might have heard previously), and we make 2 types of plans: dinner with kids, normally with other parents and their kids; and adults night out. The later being necessary for mommy and daddy to keep their sanity. Now, I love kids. Always have. But even I have an issue with parents who want to bring kids to adult nights. Or who cannot stay past a certain time, or cannot go too far from home, or...you get the idea.

My kids are my life, but my life is not all about my kids.

 

2012-11-01 1:22 PM
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bradleyd3 - 2012-11-01 2:20 PM

would it be nice to be "free" and to have a ton more cash in the bank.....sure it would, but I need someone to take care of me when I'm old and I need someone to tell me I'm uncool, cuz, right now I'm cool.....

^^This^^

And the fact that you may need a kidney some day...

2012-11-01 1:24 PM
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trinnas - 2012-11-01 11:18 AM
jford2309 - 2012-11-01 2:15 PM
Kido - 2012-11-01 1:12 PM
Teejaay - 2012-11-01 11:07 AM
Kido - 2012-11-01 10:50 AM

Well, based on what I have been told/hear from parents.  I have come to expect that I will have tons of freedom and fun in my life until I have a kid.  Then have to take a time out for 18-20 years of absolute misery and ZERO freedom/fun.  Then they leave the house, and the fun starts again?

Is that about right?

I don't know if that's true. They are yours for life and who knows when they will need you. But you can maintain your identity outside of your kids and live your life for you too. It's not a reason to stop being a sexual being or an independent being or pursuing your path in life and doing what is best and healthy for you which in turn will benefit your kid. Trust me ....I've been given more grief for the choices I've made.

BTW...  I was sort of joking.  I know it's not 18 years of misery.

There's good and bad.

And generally, people LOVE to beotch.  Misery loves company make more and more sense every day.

We all do it.  Just said this the other day to someone.  Everyone doing IM's beotch about how hard training is.  But secretly, it's sort of bragging.  So that "GAWD, my 7 hour, 150 mile ride just SUCKED yesterday".  Is REALLY "Look what I did beotches!  7 hours and 150 miles!  Take THAT!"

 

BINGO!  I think you nailed it, parents want other parents to think they are the best, just like anyone else wants. I hate it when people make a big deal about kids, you know in a way that they say things so you hear them say it even though they aren;t talking to you? Know what I mean???

Oh I see you've met my boss.  You know both of her children go to the gifted program, they don't just go to school they go to the gifted program and take field trips... with the gifted program and...

Gag...

I typed up 3-4 nasty comments to people like that, then thought better.



2012-11-01 1:25 PM
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GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 11:22 AM

bradleyd3 - 2012-11-01 2:20 PM

would it be nice to be "free" and to have a ton more cash in the bank.....sure it would, but I need someone to take care of me when I'm old and I need someone to tell me I'm uncool, cuz, right now I'm cool.....

^^This^^

And the fact that you may need a kidney some day...

I'm harvesting clones.  Got that covered.

2012-11-01 1:28 PM
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Kido - 2012-11-01 1:24 PM

trinnas - 2012-11-01 11:18 AM
jford2309 - 2012-11-01 2:15 PM
Kido - 2012-11-01 1:12 PM
Teejaay - 2012-11-01 11:07 AM
Kido - 2012-11-01 10:50 AM

Well, based on what I have been told/hear from parents.  I have come to expect that I will have tons of freedom and fun in my life until I have a kid.  Then have to take a time out for 18-20 years of absolute misery and ZERO freedom/fun.  Then they leave the house, and the fun starts again?

Is that about right?

I don't know if that's true. They are yours for life and who knows when they will need you. But you can maintain your identity outside of your kids and live your life for you too. It's not a reason to stop being a sexual being or an independent being or pursuing your path in life and doing what is best and healthy for you which in turn will benefit your kid. Trust me ....I've been given more grief for the choices I've made.

BTW...  I was sort of joking.  I know it's not 18 years of misery.

There's good and bad.

And generally, people LOVE to beotch.  Misery loves company make more and more sense every day.

We all do it.  Just said this the other day to someone.  Everyone doing IM's beotch about how hard training is.  But secretly, it's sort of bragging.  So that "GAWD, my 7 hour, 150 mile ride just SUCKED yesterday".  Is REALLY "Look what I did beotches!  7 hours and 150 miles!  Take THAT!"

 

BINGO!  I think you nailed it, parents want other parents to think they are the best, just like anyone else wants. I hate it when people make a big deal about kids, you know in a way that they say things so you hear them say it even though they aren;t talking to you? Know what I mean???

Oh I see you've met my boss.  You know both of her children go to the gifted program, they don't just go to school they go to the gifted program and take field trips... with the gifted program and...

Gag...

I typed up 3-4 nasty comments to people like that, then thought better.



It's a daily occurrence on facebook.
2012-11-01 1:29 PM
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Samyg - 2012-11-01 11:20 AM

Teejaay - 2012-11-01 1:48 PM Yep. I've never liked kids. I have a kid. My fiends have kids. But I never ever got caught up in being a mommy and making my whole life about my kid. That's not for me. And I avoid my friends that do. I have had friends that when we make plans to have dinner or do an event they want to include their kids. If I didn't include my kid why the heck would I want to hang around yours? Some friends have no identity outside of their kids and are usually the ones offended.

I have 2 kids (as you might have heard previously), and we make 2 types of plans: dinner with kids, normally with other parents and their kids; and adults night out. The later being necessary for mommy and daddy to keep their sanity. Now, I love kids. Always have. But even I have an issue with parents who want to bring kids to adult nights. Or who cannot stay past a certain time, or cannot go too far from home, or...you get the idea.

My kids are my life, but my life is not all about my kids.

 

I know I'm getting old.  Or the world is passing me by.

When I first moved to Vegas, we would go to an anual superbow party every year.  Singles, keg, keg stands, beer bong, beer pong, jello shots, bon fire, cursing and an all around fabulous time.

It's seriously romper room now.  little kids outnumber the adults, bon fire is too dangerous, jello shots are now just jello.  Baby bottles, kids running around screaming, the is a freaking jump king in the back yard.  Repremanded for yelling FUDGE! too loud.

Sigh.

ETA:  Oh, and the constant question "so when are YOU guys finally going to have kids?"  I LOVE that question.



Edited by Kido 2012-11-01 1:30 PM
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mr2tony - 2012-11-01 1:28 PM
Kido - 2012-11-01 1:24 PM
trinnas - 2012-11-01 11:18 AM
jford2309 - 2012-11-01 2:15 PM
Kido - 2012-11-01 1:12 PM
Teejaay - 2012-11-01 11:07 AM
Kido - 2012-11-01 10:50 AM

Well, based on what I have been told/hear from parents.  I have come to expect that I will have tons of freedom and fun in my life until I have a kid.  Then have to take a time out for 18-20 years of absolute misery and ZERO freedom/fun.  Then they leave the house, and the fun starts again?

Is that about right?

I don't know if that's true. They are yours for life and who knows when they will need you. But you can maintain your identity outside of your kids and live your life for you too. It's not a reason to stop being a sexual being or an independent being or pursuing your path in life and doing what is best and healthy for you which in turn will benefit your kid. Trust me ....I've been given more grief for the choices I've made.

BTW...  I was sort of joking.  I know it's not 18 years of misery.

There's good and bad.

And generally, people LOVE to beotch.  Misery loves company make more and more sense every day.

We all do it.  Just said this the other day to someone.  Everyone doing IM's beotch about how hard training is.  But secretly, it's sort of bragging.  So that "GAWD, my 7 hour, 150 mile ride just SUCKED yesterday".  Is REALLY "Look what I did beotches!  7 hours and 150 miles!  Take THAT!"

 

BINGO!  I think you nailed it, parents want other parents to think they are the best, just like anyone else wants. I hate it when people make a big deal about kids, you know in a way that they say things so you hear them say it even though they aren;t talking to you? Know what I mean???

Oh I see you've met my boss.  You know both of her children go to the gifted program, they don't just go to school they go to the gifted program and take field trips... with the gifted program and...

Gag...

I typed up 3-4 nasty comments to people like that, then thought better.

It's a daily occurrence on facebook.

I am somewhat guilty, and proud of my kids, so if it gets too much for you on FB, de-friend me or hide me, I won't get offended.

2012-11-01 1:30 PM
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mr2tony - 2012-11-01 2:19 PM I could never be a parent because I'd get fed up with the screaming and whining and smelling and such and just leave them on the street somewhere. I hear that's not legal in some states. Mostly the blue hippie liberal ones.

SO you are not a fan of short noisy smelly whinny messy little creatures. good think for you Monica doesn't agree with you.



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Samyg - 2012-11-01 11:30 AM

mr2tony - 2012-11-01 2:19 PM I could never be a parent because I'd get fed up with the screaming and whining and smelling and such and just leave them on the street somewhere. I hear that's not legal in some states. Mostly the blue hippie liberal ones.

SO you are not a fan of short noisy smelly whinny messy little creatures. good think for you Monica doesn't agree with you.

well played

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Samyg - 2012-11-01 2:30 PM

mr2tony - 2012-11-01 2:19 PM I could never be a parent because I'd get fed up with the screaming and whining and smelling and such and just leave them on the street somewhere. I hear that's not legal in some states. Mostly the blue hippie liberal ones.

SO you are not a fan of short noisy smelly whinny messy little creatures. good think for you Monica doesn't agree with you.

ahh, it's been a while since a good kicking tony in the ding ding.

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Samyg - 2012-11-01 1:30 PM

mr2tony - 2012-11-01 2:19 PM I could never be a parent because I'd get fed up with the screaming and whining and smelling and such and just leave them on the street somewhere. I hear that's not legal in some states. Mostly the blue hippie liberal ones.

SO you are not a fan of short noisy smelly whinny messy little creatures. good think for you Monica doesn't agree with you.




ROADHOUSE!!

This....this right here......THIS is why people like you.....

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Speaking of kids...

 

My son is being nominated for the 7th grade class Homecoming King today at the basketball game!!!! I hope he wins

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