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2014-04-17 9:40 AM

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Good morning folks.

It's funny - I've changed up my swimming - lots of drills now, and my last two swims have felt pretty good, as opposed to the grumbles of frustration from my last few. Today's swim included fist drills, fingertip drills, mixed pull focus drills, kick drills . . . you name it, I probably did it. I am still surprised at how complicated swimming well actually is. If/when my wife and I have children, those kids are swimming from the get-go; even if I spend the next 10 years swimming regularly, my future hypothetical 8-year-old would wipe the deck with me.

Nutrition has been good this week - office brought in veggie trays on Monday and Tuesday (yay!) and oreos and chocolate almonds yesterday (boo!). Also, it's screwy that I am cheering veggies trays and have had salads for lunch every day this week, and [bold] liked them [/bold].

thor67

2014-04-17 7:42 PM

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Well, picked up a 6pk of variety pk of upas after second texas run #2. run was great beer...weak to say the least.

St. Arnolds(hours)-local beer..disappointed. Always disappointed with local beers under performing

Itty bitte IPA from Missoula...home of the maggot fest ruby festival... okay beer but weak ipa..don't call an ipa unless it is hopped up..just saying

Something 21 beer...again weak..

Kansas city beer...again low hop page-cannot remember beer name but...

excuse me for lack of coherency as I have been having a couple of beers this afternoon... :-)

kevinbe

2014-04-17 10:32 PM

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Hawks game 1. Overtime. I love/hate overtime hockey. On the edge of my seat. Hawks gave up a goal late in the third to give the blues life going into OT.
Having a Mirror pond pale ale from Deschutes.

Ran 4.15 this morning in 8:15/mi pace. Raining tomorrow, so I'm hooking up the drainer for 40 minutes. First bike in a long while. Probably get in my first swim on Saturday with long run in on Sunday.

Keep up the solid training BDAAS

kevinbe

2014-04-17 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by thor67

Well, picked up a 6pk of variety pk of upas after second texas run #2. run was great beer...weak to say the least.

St. Arnolds(hours)-local beer..disappointed. Always disappointed with local beers under performing

Itty bitte IPA from Missoula...home of the maggot fest ruby festival... okay beer but weak ipa..don't call an ipa unless it is hopped up..just saying

Something 21 beer...again weak..

Kansas city beer...again low hop page-cannot remember beer name but...

excuse me for lack of coherency as I have been having a couple of beers this afternoon... :-)

Bad beer elsewhere is a bit better than the Molson and Labatt's.

How'd the hockey tourney end up?

2014-04-18 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by kevinbe

Originally posted by thor67

Well, picked up a 6pk of variety pk of upas after second texas run #2. run was great beer...weak to say the least.

St. Arnolds(hours)-local beer..disappointed. Always disappointed with local beers under performing

Itty bitte IPA from Missoula...home of the maggot fest ruby festival... okay beer but weak ipa..don't call an ipa unless it is hopped up..just saying

Something 21 beer...again weak..

Kansas city beer...again low hop page-cannot remember beer name but...

excuse me for lack of coherency as I have been having a couple of beers this afternoon... :-)

Bad beer elsewhere is a bit better than the Molson and Labatt's.

How'd the hockey tourney end up?

I could not agree more Kevin! You should be thankful to have choices other than Molsen!

Here is a listing of the top 21 beers brewed in Texas. I hope it's not too late.

1 Jester King Atrial Rubicite Jester King Brewery 99 99.8
2 Jester King/Mikkeller Beer Geek Rodeo Jester King Brewery 96 99
3 Jester King/Mikkeller Weasel Rodeo Jester King Brewery 171 99
4 Saint Arnold Bishop’s Barrel #1 Saint Arnold Brewing Company 51 98.9
5 Karbach 003 Bourbon Barrel Hellfighter Karbach Brewing Co. 61 98.7
6 Jester King/Mikkeller Whiskey Barrel Rodeo Jester King Brewery 86 98.5
7 Live Oak Hefe Weizen Live Oak Brewing Company 285 98.5
8 Jester King Black Metal Farmhouse Imperial Stout Jester King Brewery 237 98.5
9 Jester King El Cedro Jester King Brewery 188 98.4
10 Rahr & Sons Bourbon Barrel Aged Winter Warmer Rahr & Sons Brewing 147 98.3
11 (512) Whiskey Barrel Aged Double Pecan Porter (512) Brewing Company 118 98.3
12 Real Ale Mysterium Verum Volume XV Real Ale Brewing Company 16 98.2
13 Freetail Raspberry Ananke Freetail Brewing Co. 36 98.2
14 Jester King Boxer’s Revenge Barrel-Aged Wild Ale Jester King Brewery 202 98.2
15 Real Ale The Kraken Real Ale Brewing Company 36 98.1
16 Saint Arnold Divine Reserve #9 Saint Arnold Brewing Company 263 98.1
17 Jester King Das Wunderkind Jester King Brewery 210 98.1
18 (512) Cascabel Cream Stout (512) Brewing Company 42 98
19 Southern Star Buried Hatchet Stout Southern Star Brewing Co. 387 97.9
20 Freetail La Muerta Freetail Brewing Co. 147 97.8
21 Saint Arnold Divine Reserve #11 Saint Arnold Brewing Company 237 97.8

2014-04-18 10:18 AM

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I got in the pool today for the first time in a month. Shoulder is still not 100% but I was able to get in 400 yards with only a little discomfort. So that is a major improvement.

I'm still worried about the finishing time but I could do the swim in 3:00 per 100 and the bike at 14 mph and walk the marathon and still finish the thing. I wonder how much of the race is mental. If I come in able to finish a HIM can I just will myself to the finish line?

2014-04-18 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by Qua17

I got in the pool today for the first time in a month. Shoulder is still not 100% but I was able to get in 400 yards with only a little discomfort. So that is a major improvement.

I'm still worried about the finishing time but I could do the swim in 3:00 per 100 and the bike at 14 mph and walk the marathon and still finish the thing. I wonder how much of the race is mental. If I come in able to finish a HIM can I just will myself to the finish line?

I'll post again tonight - but for Christmas, one of the books I received was Don Fink's "Be Iron Fit." One of the plans is a "finish it" plan, and I remember looking it over and thinking it wasn't enough; maybe ~10 hours per week. I'll look at it again and post the highlights.

2014-04-19 7:04 AM

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Don Fink's "Just Finish It" program: 30 weeks, 7 to 10 hours per week.

The swims are set in the program, but I won't bother proscribing swimming. Imagine 300 w/u, 4x50, 4x100, etc., and you'll get the idea.

Base phase: 10 weeks, avg. 5 per week. Week 10 (for example; highest volume week):
M: rest
T: 1,600 swim; 45' z2 run
W: 32' z2 ride; 15' z2 run
R: 45' z2 run
F: 1,600 swim;
S: 2:00 z2 bike
S: 1:30 z1 to z2 run

Build phase: 10 weeks, from 7 to 9 hours per week; week 19:
M: rest
T: 1,600 swim; 1:00' z1 to z2 run
W: 32' z2 ride; 15' z2 run
R: 1:00 z2 run
F: 2,500 swim;
S: 3:00 z2 bike
S: 2:00 z1 to z2 run

Peak Phase: 10 weeks; 10 hours per week and then taper
M: rest
T: 2,500 swim; 1:00 z2 run with 12min at z4
W: 45' z2 bike; 15' z2 run
R: 1:00 run, z2 for 35, build to z4
F: 2,500 swim
S: 3:30 z2 bike
S: 2:00 z1 to z2 run

*****
I have two main thoughts about it:

First instinct: it's too little. Especially on the bike, and especially for IMMT.
Second: after reading through it, as screwy as it sounds, this ironman stuff isn't unattainable. The truth is probably that anyone who has ran a HM can probably walk a marathon on any given day, and a triple crank plus an 11-28 cassette means anyone can climb, and there's no shame in walking up a hill (been there, done that).

I'm not saying you need to make a decision now, or ever, about how to approach it. The more I think about it, somone going in with the mindset to "just finish it" is probably going to have a much better day than I am. My whole day is going to be dominated by my brain going "Slower! Slower than that!" while my heart and legs and adrenaline are screaming "Let's rock!!!!!!!" and my eyes are going "Chase the next person down!"

If I bring my "A" game and race the best race of my life (of any race), I'm still looking at 12.5 hours; 13:50 to 14:30 is probably more like it. Comparing that to a 16:30 effort, going in to run 16:30, who's going to have the better day? A 16:30 is going to think at mile 20, "hey, maybe I'll jog for a few minutes," whereas I've spent my **entire** day dreading mile 20 and holding back on the bike.

2014-04-19 8:49 PM

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Originally posted by mirthfuldragon

Don Fink's "Just Finish It" program: 30 weeks, 7 to 10 hours per week.

The swims are set in the program, but I won't bother proscribing swimming. Imagine 300 w/u, 4x50, 4x100, etc., and you'll get the idea.

Base phase: 10 weeks, avg. 5 per week. Week 10 (for example; highest volume week):
M: rest
T: 1,600 swim; 45' z2 run
W: 32' z2 ride; 15' z2 run
R: 45' z2 run
F: 1,600 swim;
S: 2:00 z2 bike
S: 1:30 z1 to z2 run

Build phase: 10 weeks, from 7 to 9 hours per week; week 19:
M: rest
T: 1,600 swim; 1:00' z1 to z2 run
W: 32' z2 ride; 15' z2 run
R: 1:00 z2 run
F: 2,500 swim;
S: 3:00 z2 bike
S: 2:00 z1 to z2 run

Peak Phase: 10 weeks; 10 hours per week and then taper
M: rest
T: 2,500 swim; 1:00 z2 run with 12min at z4
W: 45' z2 bike; 15' z2 run
R: 1:00 run, z2 for 35, build to z4
F: 2,500 swim
S: 3:30 z2 bike
S: 2:00 z1 to z2 run

*****
I have two main thoughts about it:

First instinct: it's too little. Especially on the bike, and especially for IMMT.
Second: after reading through it, as screwy as it sounds, this ironman stuff isn't unattainable. The truth is probably that anyone who has ran a HM can probably walk a marathon on any given day, and a triple crank plus an 11-28 cassette means anyone can climb, and there's no shame in walking up a hill (been there, done that).

I'm not saying you need to make a decision now, or ever, about how to approach it. The more I think about it, somone going in with the mindset to "just finish it" is probably going to have a much better day than I am. My whole day is going to be dominated by my brain going "Slower! Slower than that!" while my heart and legs and adrenaline are screaming "Let's rock!!!!!!!" and my eyes are going "Chase the next person down!"

If I bring my "A" game and race the best race of my life (of any race), I'm still looking at 12.5 hours; 13:50 to 14:30 is probably more like it. Comparing that to a 16:30 effort, going in to run 16:30, who's going to have the better day? A 16:30 is going to think at mile 20, "hey, maybe I'll jog for a few minutes," whereas I've spent my **entire** day dreading mile 20 and holding back on the bike.

You are the man! I appreciate the time you put into that post last night. Truth is - I'm so tired from my ride today that I'm gonna respond tomorrow when my brain is working (save the jokes Thor

2014-04-19 8:54 PM

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Goals for the week of 4/21/14

DQ - Earn a week off by: 1) Losing 2 pounds, 2) squeezing in every minute of my plan - no missed workouts 3) 2 hours of PT, ice like it's my job

Juancho

2014-04-20 9:43 AM

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What is your running history?

Been running 10Ks more than 15 years ago, but with no real training. In the last 2-3 years, a more 'formal' training with 3 HM that I really enjoyed and one full marathon in which I suffered too much (need to do it again to keep a good memory...)

What is your current running training look like?

2-3 days per week 8 to 10k run, and 1 long run on the weekends (12-15k)

What is your current typical running pace (zone 2)?

5.10 to 5:20 per km, 1/2 marathon PB is 1:45.

What injuries have you had, and how did it work out?

Extremely lucky, at 47 no real injuries yet, may be because I run like a diesel engine, not too fast!

Favorite running shoe?

Asics no doubt! Have tried Nike and K-swiss in different models, but Asics are my shoes: GT, Nimbus, and now Kayano 20, my best shoes ever!

Juancho

2014-04-20 9:45 AM

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Just back from a few days off with the family in southern Spain - beautiful sun to run on the beach with the only risk of being back with a sunburn.
Today, 90 min bike ride. I really love good weather!
I am about to do a 2 day-workshop to make beer at home: any suggestions? I can choose between pale ale, brown ale, pilsner....

2014-04-20 3:28 PM

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Originally posted by Juancho

Just back from a few days off with the family in southern Spain - beautiful sun to run on the beach with the only risk of being back with a sunburn.
Today, 90 min bike ride. I really love good weather!
I am about to do a 2 day-workshop to make beer at home: any suggestions? I can choose between pale ale, brown ale, pilsner....

You are living the life. So glad to have you in the BDAAS - so I can live vicariously through you.

Glad you asked about the beer - finally I know something about. When you make your first couple of batches of beer - it's important to do two things. First - brew something you love. Second - brew something easy. The first batch I brewed was a brown. It doesn't get much simpler. IPA's are pretty easy since the hops hide a lot of flaws in the brew. No matter what happens. Have a blast!

2014-04-20 3:48 PM

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Originally posted by mirthfuldragon

Don Fink's "Just Finish It" program: 30 weeks, 7 to 10 hours per week.

The swims are set in the program, but I won't bother proscribing swimming. Imagine 300 w/u, 4x50, 4x100, etc., and you'll get the idea.

Peak Phase: 10 weeks; 10 hours per week and then taper
M: rest
T: 2,500 swim; 1:00 z2 run with 12min at z4
W: 45' z2 bike; 15' z2 run
R: 1:00 run, z2 for 35, build to z4
F: 2,500 swim
S: 3:30 z2 bike
S: 2:00 z1 to z2 run

*****
I have two main thoughts about it:

First instinct: it's too little. Especially on the bike, and especially for IMMT.
Second: after reading through it, as screwy as it sounds, this ironman stuff isn't unattainable. The truth is probably that anyone who has ran a HM can probably walk a marathon on any given day, and a triple crank plus an 11-28 cassette means anyone can climb, and there's no shame in walking up a hill (been there, done that).

I'm not saying you need to make a decision now, or ever, about how to approach it. The more I think about it, somone going in with the mindset to "just finish it" is probably going to have a much better day than I am. My whole day is going to be dominated by my brain going "Slower! Slower than that!" while my heart and legs and adrenaline are screaming "Let's rock!!!!!!!" and my eyes are going "Chase the next person down!"

If I bring my "A" game and race the best race of my life (of any race), I'm still looking at 12.5 hours; 13:50 to 14:30 is probably more like it. Comparing that to a 16:30 effort, going in to run 16:30, who's going to have the better day? A 16:30 is going to think at mile 20, "hey, maybe I'll jog for a few minutes," whereas I've spent my **entire** day dreading mile 20 and holding back on the bike.

Charles - I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question by posting the just finish workout. The fact is - I agree with you that the volume is not enough. I think you would have a hard time muscling through having done less than half of the volume in the race itself. For the record - I'm pretty close to a few of these marks right now so I should be in good shape. My goal is to do as much as possible before the race so I can enjoy every minute. I have zero intention of racing that day. I know some people might disagree with that - but I know that just finishing is going to be challenge enough. My thing is I just want to stop worry about it. With all the injuries I've faced _ I'm worrying about just finishing. But I think if I can reach some minimums - I should be good to go. If I could hit some minimums - I think I will be golden. For example - if I could reach 1.5 miles in the pool, 100 on the bike and 13 on the run - I know I will be able to finish. Thanks for the support!

2014-04-20 3:54 PM

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Wrapping up a crazy week. I'm glad I was able to squeeze in what I did during the last seven days. Being the father of 2 teen agers is tough work!

But I'm ending the week on a positive note. I was able to get in the pool twice - once for 400 and again for 500. It was the first time I've swum in a month - so it was a relief to be able to do it. The shoulder is still sire - but at least I'm moving closer to the goal. I also was able to get in 35 on the bike. With 6 weeks until the HIM - I'm not in great shape but I know I will finish.

In other news - the beer job didn't work out. I had a flat tire on my first day - and the guy who ran the company was a real jerk about it (sure I ran over the curb - but the case of beer I bought for everyone made them all happy). So I've got to find another way of making some $$ until I can get a teaching gig.

Hope everyone who is celebrating is having a good easter!

Juancho

2014-04-20 4:35 PM

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Thanks for your advice on brewing, will keep you posted!! Too bad to hear about the beer job, sounded like a fun alternative to history, good luck in the next few days - hope your training keeps adding up miles and minutes for your A-race (as you know, most of it in our minds, "iron bends but do not break").

thor67

2014-04-21 8:34 AM

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Wellllll, I am back for a few days. The previous weekend was a Pro AM hockey tourney. We ended up drafting Bryan Berard. Good guy with some interesting stories including some guy who allegedly stole millions from him and other people.

Weekend result....too much drinking/too much eating crap.

Followed that up with a trip to Texas. The good part was a new pair of shoes, and three great runs!

The second last day we went for a run and swim around Barton springs. What a great location for a run and a swim. Basically they made a natural pool out a springs by surrounding it in concrete. Natural bottom. Approximately 1000 feet long. Tons of swimmer in the morning doing laps while we were there. Google it.

Went to some breweries as well. Not sure if this is the same elsewhere but breweries there will open up Friday nights and Saturdays for 4-5 hours and basically charge you $10, give you a mug and 3 tokens for beers. Add food truck and it is a party...

Holiday results...too much drinking/too much eating crap.

This Thursday I am off to a hockey tourney in Banff. 4 games in 3 days. I already know the results for this weekend...too much drinking/too much eating crap.

On the bright side, this is the most I have run since Feb. 2013....ran just about 50 miles. I am at 23 now and hoping to hit 30+ this month! Hoping to stay healthy!

Have a good week everyone!

MOlsen

2014-04-21 3:38 PM

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Saturday was a good day, I ran my favorite 10k charity run (that first inspired me into running) for the third time. Beautiful run on the beach (very low tide) from Morro Rock to Cayucos Pier, the weather and conditions were perfect. With a half marathon coming up this Sunday I treated it like a medium training day. After finishing the 10k I turned around and ran back down the beach until I found my friend who was doing her first 10k. Her goal was to run at least 4 miles before I came back for her and she had made it 4.5 miles. We then walked most of the remaining 1.5 miles with a few bursts of running when she was able to. Attached is a picture from the end, with the shadow of Morro Rock looming 6 miles back where we started.

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2014-04-22 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by MOlsen

Race day is *always* a good day. Glad you had a good day, and good hunting on your HM..

adempsey10

2014-04-22 11:12 AM

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Hey all,

It's been awhile since I last posted. I've been trying to keep with the posts but school has been hectic. 2 presentations, 2 papers, and 3 exams have kept me holed up in my office. I haven't done hardly any training (to be fair last week was a recovery week so I didn't have much planned). This week is looking like a bit of a write-off too because of school. I'm running a half on Sunday though, feeling good about that. My birthday was on the 20th and my wife got me a new Garmin 310xt with HRM, quick release, cadence/speed sensor and TT bar mount.

No beer lately. After the 29th when school is over there will be many beers.

2014-04-22 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by MOlsen

Right on! Good work on the race. I hope your HM goes just as well! Also - you need to stop posting pictures - you are making me really jealous!

2014-04-22 11:30 AM

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Hey all,

No beer lately. After the 29th when school is over there will be many beers.

Alan - sorry to hear work has been weighing you down. It sounds like you've got one more big week and then you can kick back, enjoy a few beers, and really focus on IMMT. Good luck during your race! Hope you kick a little a$$!

2014-04-22 11:34 AM

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Can I tell you how nice it is to train with a body that doesn't ache. The myo facial releast seems to really be working and I really haven't hurt at all the day following a workout. Yesterday, I was able to do a major swim - 1200 yards - which is a lot considering I haven't swum in 4 weeks. I was also able to get in 45 on the bike last night and 90 on the bike today. The training is increasing and for the first time I feel good.

Today - I'm down in VA so I can take my boys to a Nats game. It's 5 dollar beer night - so I will be sure to have a full report tomorrow. I've got my longest run in a few months - 7 miles so keep your fingers crossed!

Prost!

2014-04-22 1:44 PM

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Originally posted by Qua17

Can I tell you how nice it is to train with a body that doesn't ache. The myo facial releast seems to really be working and I really haven't hurt at all the day following a workout. Yesterday, I was able to do a major swim - 1200 yards - which is a lot considering I haven't swum in 4 weeks. I was also able to get in 45 on the bike last night and 90 on the bike today. The training is increasing and for the first time I feel good.

Today - I'm down in VA so I can take my boys to a Nats game. It's 5 dollar beer night - so I will be sure to have a full report tomorrow. I've got my longest run in a few months - 7 miles so keep your fingers crossed!

Prost!

Glad to hear some good news from your camp. Even if it does involve baseball . . . given a choice between staring at the wall on the trainer or watching baseball, I'd have to think about it.

Everything's clicking for me now what the weather has gotten nice out. Spending time on the tri bike is heavenly. I sat down yesterday and watched the Quassy course preview video - not really helpful, since they run through the course in about 30 minutes, but still interesting. It reminds me of Wisconsin - lots of climbing, the word "flat" antithetical. Should be a blast.