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New user![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Samantha, I'm excited for you and your HIM. When is it again? Steve, great tips. I've been super busy, and today school starts back up, along with 12-14 hour work days, with coaching thrown in. I looked back at my training logs and saw that in April my average mile was done in 11:50 for the month. In August I am averaging 10:13. I'm hoping to be able to run a HM the first week in December in 9:09. It's ambitious, but losing the last 15 pounds I need to should make a difference. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Larry - my race in September 15th! I'm getting excited to get out there and see what I can do. Great job on your run pace! Happy return to school. How is your football team doing? Steve - thanks for all the answers. I'm would also like to know what kind of drink system you, or anyone else, would recommend I get for my bike. I was thinking of getting the bottles wiht the straws. But I've seen different setups so I'm not sure. I would like what i buy now to be sufficient for CDAIM as well. My run last night went well. Some people stopped me and asked if I was training for somethign specific because they see me all the time and wanted me to know they think I'm doing great. It was nice! My run this morning was terrible and I ended up walking most of it. I just didn't have any umph to go. It was all mental and I gave in. Gonna go check out some wetsuits today and find out when my bike will be in. :D |
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Member![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Carol - Glad to hear things are looking up but ouch! Watch out for those bridges. Larry - Way to keep training even in such a busy time! Jim - Way to get back into it! Steve - Glad to have your great advise and would like to continue over the winter. I'd expect there could be some very interesting winter training stories. The run focus is working well. Not getting much bike time in and no swim( at least for august) but that is ok. New weekly PR for run milage at 22.83 last week. Run today went well with 4.37 miles in 43:53. Got a little caught up in the 5k time plus got a phone call which distracted me for a couple minutes. Splits 9:43,9:34, 9:33, 12:55, 9:24(last .37). Funny to see I actually can run. Still have some work to do if I want to get a sub 60 min 10K. Will see! |
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Description: Patented Fast Fill
Camelbak® has reworked its drinking valve to deliver twice the flow of the original design.
Ok so I use this system (infinit in back chamber) water in front chamber, easy to refill at water stops. I put the camelback bite valve on the end of the straws to keep from getting splashed on bumps and to keep from getting jabbed in the mouth. This is all you need for an IM unless maybe if temps are above 105F on the bike, then an extra bottle on your downtube should saffice. The system velcroes in bettween your aero bars and wont go anywhere. You may need to use foam pads fir a snug fit. I use pipe isulation covered with duct tape, but they should come with something.
I also use one of these:
because I may go 75 miles between water stops in 100F + temps where I live and I need to have 140 oz of fluids on the frame. Edited by Baowolf 2012-08-20 11:28 PM |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I can't tell what brand your bottle is. I'm looking online and I found one that look similar by profile designs, but it doesn't hold 50oz. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I got it. Thanks! OWS today was a bum deal because my goggles kept getting water in them and they kept fogging up making siting so challenging. I did almost my full distance. My run was also very tough. I had nothing to give, so I enjoyed most of my time walking. I think the heat is getting to me. We have been in the 90's for almost two weeks now. There is call for some rain and cooler temps, which I am looking forward to so much. Carol - I sure am glad you are okay after you mishap on the bridge! |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Sorry Samantha Podiumquest. Ya you are probably feeling that really big jump in distance you have added. Feel free to pull back on your shortest run or bike but keep the long ones.
With goggles sometimes you have to tighten them up a bit as the rubber gets a little older so they don't leak if they initially had a good seal. Fogging is one of those things. Often putting a little spit in there will help, but if you are out there in a race sometimes it is easier to just dump water into and out of them and then keep going, takes about 3 to 5 seconds. I have a pair i just use for races. Also if your swim cap is old and it slips up it will impact your goggle tension. Edited by Baowolf 2012-08-21 2:56 AM |
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New user![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I got in a 6 mile run this morning at a 9:26 pace. Maybe a 2 hour HM is doable. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Larry, you are definately getting there. With your current run miles and a long of 8 miles you are going to experience a drop off in pace miles 10-13. As you get your long runs up closer to 13-15 with weekly miles up around 25-35 you will be able to maintain that faster pace for the full 13 miles. Not out of grasp, but going to be a tough run for you because your race is soon close. But definately for a race down the road 3-4 months. |
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Member![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Samantha - Happy shopping! There is also anti fog products you can buy for your goggles. It lasts pretty good as long as you keep the goggles on (at least the product I have). I do not remeber which I got but it is pretty cheap and you only need a few drops each swim. Of course spit can work as well. Larry - Nice goal. I would add that to my list but don't think I will manage by October. But if you are working on December with your grit, it sounds doable. I have a recovery run planned for today. Some 3 miles at a slow pace has worked very well to get the mileage up and releive the soreness in preperation for a long run Wednesday. It is getting harder to fit in the long run now that the days are getting shorter again. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Joe, nice running! Have a feeling you will be breaking 60 mins in a 10K pretty soon. Jim, how is the (more) consistent training going this week? Larry, I have no doubt you will get a sub 2:00 half. Have you followed pacers before during races? I found them to be a help the first time, then kind of winged it the second time once I had a feel for the pace, but YMMV. Samantha, huge week for you all the way around! Soak it in I've had two days of running that felt really good. We have had some rain and a drop in temperatures, so it has been low 70's and even high 60's in the mornings. I cannot tell you how wonderful that is. I'm not worrying about pace at all right now, just getting out there to run 5ish miles with the goal of feeling good before, during and after the run. No biking or swimming for a few days. My neck has been really sore after the fall on the bike, but thankfully running doesn't bother it much. |
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New user![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Carol, I've never done the pace thing, but I like the idea. The half I'm going to do will be small though. Hope your soreness goes away soon. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Good morning everyone. Sorry I've not been around much lately, but some things are going on at home (someone sick) that are taking precedence over training, and just about everything else. So, hopefully in a couple weeks when this is all done with, I can get back at it, but until then I may be an occasional visitor at best. Oy. I'm already thinking about 2013 season, and first and formost is getting back to that HIM where I had a DNF and getting to the finish line this time. Training for that would start in early January. But for the remainder of 2012, assuming I start back up in a couple weeks, how should I approach this? I'd like to hit the January race training start in decent shape, so maybe grab a 16 week Oly plan from the BT library and use that to build back up? Its not like I've turned into a giant blob the past couple of weeks, but I'm not exactly at the peak I was in June ![]() Hope everyone is having a great August! |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Mike you do want to maintain some fitness through winter. You can look at the actual plan and it will say what you are expected to be able to do to start the plan. There are also winter mantanance programs on BT. Basically you probably want to maintain around 20 miles per week running, 75 miles per week biking and 2500 or so yards swimming to the be able to build nicely into a HIM. (R 3x6.5, Bike 20,20,35, swim 1500, 1500) would be a decent base. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey Mike, good to hear from you. Hope everything comes out OK with with your family. You are very resilient, and I'm sure that is a help to them. Larry, yeah, I guess only the bigger races have pacers. They are definitely not necessary, but it's kind of nice to be able to check out mentally for a while, follow the sign, and know you're on track for your goal. Samantha, how is the training going? New bike soon to arrive? Thanks for the well wishes on my neck. It is doing better day by day and feels close to normal. May try a short bike ride with hubby this evening. Another day of awesome coolness here. 65 glorious degrees on my run this morning. There was a very light fog that made for really beautiful beams of light through the trees. It is a little scary how much this drop in temperatures improves my mood, but I'll take it. Local triathlete swimming solo in the lake went missing yesterday. All indications are that he went into the water and never came out. I don't expect it to end well at this point, and it's so very sad for his wife and kids. Be careful out there and don't take any unnecessary risks! MTA: just read that they found his body this morning.
Edited by squirt 2012-08-22 12:24 PM |
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New user![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I had been cruising along with my running, then had a terrible 3 mile run yesterday. No rhyme or reason, just stunk. It's hard to accept a bad workout, but I'm realizing that it is going to happen, and I am learning to take solace in the fact that finishing is an accomplishment when I feel crappy. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hill workout today 6x up this baby at paces: 9:23, 9:03, 9:11, 9:14, 9:28, 9:18 mpm. Ya sometimes you just have cappy workouts, can be fatigue, cold, whatever. Just get er done and move on. If it happens a lot in a week, add a rest day. Look at sleep, food, etc. Edited by Baowolf 2012-08-23 11:54 AM |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Steve that hill is intense! Running it at consistent 9's is pretty stellar, but I thought about how much a person might gain from that in overall run ability. Very impressed! Larry I hear you on having bad workouts. It's weird how it impacts my overall perspective on my training, but you are right to be glad you got it done and move on. Great to hear from you! Mike I'm praying for your family during this season of sickness. So glad to know what's goin on and look forward to you tidbits and when you are able to join us more regularly. Jim how are you? Ceril you are missed! Elena how is your training? Joe same question to you. Bike is paid for and should arrive today. Gonna brave a 65 mile ride on a new bike because that's what I gotta do. Did a 17 mile bike yesterday and felt strong after having a recovery week. Some of the hills I ride regularly are not as grueling. My podiumquest drink system arrived in one day. Things are coming together. Race day is approaching! How do I post a pic in this blog? |
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Member![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Steve - That is a great view. How many feet is that climb? With terain like that I could get lost for days. Larry - Great perspective. Put it in the rearview and don't look back. I have found I often need to forget the clock and just find the comfortable pace to get through. Samantha - New toys! Yeah!! Carol - Yeah for cool weather. I notice quite a change in my energy level once it gets under 80-85 degrees. Unfortunately that means shorter days as well. Glad you are doing better. Took an extra day to rest yesterday before the long run. I did not want to go in and have to bail. Still a bit sore but should have the energy today. |
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New user![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Samantha, I'm super excited for you. It was a great end to a life changing journey for me. Steve, you are simply insane. What a hill/mountain!! |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() That hill is fun for bike hill repeats too. Samantha I have been thinking about bike stearing while in aero and I find that I am primarily using my hips for turning and then adjusting my shoulders, wrists and front tire accordingly. On the horns it is just like a road bike for stearing. With the podiumquest I really recomend the camelback ends for the straws. You also have to cut the straws to a good level for you and people are different sizes. So during your race you fill the back chamber with tripple strength infinit (6 scoops) and water in the front. At each aid station take a big swig of ice cold water from the hand up bottle, top off the front chamber of the podiumquest (the water chamber) and then ditch the bottle before you leave the dropoff area. If you go too far just put it in your downtube and chuck it at the next waterstop. I ductaped the pads so that the do not get as abused by being put on and off of the aero bars. I'm really excited about your upcoming race. Just for some perspective I was completely smoked the last two weeks before my HIM, but I knew I had to get in the distance and not care so much about the speed. With the taper I was able to get put back together in time for the race. This is the time of year for.... burnout. Folks have most of their races in, have been working out consistently for a long time and just lose direction, momentum and are just plain tired of being tired. This is where you have to dig back into that lifestyle philosophy. You can pick one sport and hammer on it while doing minimal in the others. I typically do a marathon in the winter, but again will be bike focused as I need to get my bike speed up or it doesn't matter how fast I run. You can drop back to as little as 5 to 10 hours a week and ditch the watch, just run for fun, swim at a leasurly pace, bike to explore, whatever works for you. If you do an IM you have a month of no guilt non exercize before rebuilding. If you take significant time off though, it really sucks when you have a 5 mile run and it feels really long when you start to rebuild. It comes back faster the more years you do it, but that first week of rebuilding can be quite a shocker as to how much fitness you will lose. If you do nothing for 2-3 weeks you will lose a ton of fitness. It will come back in a month, but painfully. 20 Mile bike this afternoon with high rpms. I get sooo bouncey at 125 rpms. And my wife and I finished a wall of shelving in the garage to help organize the stuff we should have thrown away 10 years ago. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Joe, how was your long run? Samantha, yes, everything is coming together for your race. Equipment as well as training Larry, hope your next run makes you forget you ever had a bad one. Steve, nice hill work! Ha, when you ride it, careful on the shifting Neck is better, so got back on my bike today. Stayed upright the whole time, yay me!! |
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Member![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ok. I did it. It was not easy and did some walking but completed 9 mile run in 1:43:26. I started out too fast the first three miles and made a quick stop for an energy bar during mile 4. Splits 10:08, 10:29, 10:45, 12:32, 11:30, 12:18, 12:10, 12:39. and 12:56. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Very nice run Joe! You covered the distance, and got a better feel for pacing. Win! |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Joe you got it done 8). So next long run shoot for 11:00 mpm sustained and see if you can hold it. Your long run is typically 30 seconds to 90 seconds slower than your shorter training runs. Walking is fine, when I'm injured or recovering something I walk the entire planned run. Getting practice on pacing is really good cuz in a race if you wall out it is much less fun. Bike ideas for they day. 3 types of stops 1) feather front and back brake, 2) even pressure front and back brake, 3) oh shoot I am going to tbone a car last resort stop 60 percent front brake 30 percent rear brake (if too much on front you go over the handlebars). |
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