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2012-05-01 11:07 AM
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KansasMom - so glad your son was allowed to turn in his assignment late and still go on the ride AND he had a lot of fun.  Wow, the salt museum sounds fun.  What a shame that your little guy is afraid of going underground, but good for you for helping him understand the way to properly handle not going on the trip (just opting out rather than sabotaging).


2012-05-01 11:24 AM
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Interesting day at the pool for me yesterday.  I rode my bike to and from the pool but that is irrelevant to my question..

I had a lane to myself for a few minutes but was quickly (and without warning) invaded by a swim team.  So the kind man in the next lane offered to split a lane.  Between sharing a lane and the activities in the next lane my water felt a bit like an ows.  So I thought rather than get frustrated trying to swim fast I would work on my support side breathing so I did 100 left, 100 right etc.  I was also trying to really concentrate on my form and work on elbows up when a question occured to me.  What angle should my wrist be? I've heard the pull the box analogy.  Do I start with a bent wrist as my hand enters and flow toward straight as my arm comes back?

Started with a run this morning and have another swim on tap for this afternoon.  Happy Tuesday everyone!

2012-05-01 11:47 AM
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rrrunner - 2012-05-02 12:24 AM

Interesting day at the pool for me yesterday.  I rode my bike to and from the pool but that is irrelevant to my question..

I had a lane to myself for a few minutes but was quickly (and without warning) invaded by a swim team.  So the kind man in the next lane offered to split a lane.  Between sharing a lane and the activities in the next lane my water felt a bit like an ows.  So I thought rather than get frustrated trying to swim fast I would work on my support side breathing so I did 100 left, 100 right etc.  I was also trying to really concentrate on my form and work on elbows up when a question occured to me.  What angle should my wrist be? I've heard the pull the box analogy.  Do I start with a bent wrist as my hand enters and flow toward straight as my arm comes back?

Started with a run this morning and have another swim on tap for this afternoon.  Happy Tuesday everyone!

Exactly. Drop the wrist just a bit when your hand is fully forward (this is the CATCH), and try to get your elbow above it ASAP. (If you actually want degrees, about 30 from horizontal.)

The problem with NOT dropping the wrist (keeping it straight at first) is that you wind up pushing water DOWN, which makes your body pop UP instead of FORWARD.

2012-05-01 11:56 AM
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Thanks! That is kinda what I was shooting for.  I need to order the swim secrets book!  Maybe I'll order that one and Chrissie's book tonight. Laughing

 

2012-05-01 11:56 AM
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2012-05-01 12:00 PM
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rrrunner - 2012-05-02 12:56 AM

Thanks! That is kinda what I was shooting for.  I need to order the swim secrets book!  Maybe I'll order that one and Chrissie's book tonight. Laughing

There's not a swim technique book that I could recommend more highly, incomparably so. Even minus my very obvious girl-crush-hero-worship of Sheila T.



2012-05-01 12:04 PM
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Congrats Jogo on your accomplishment on a day with  tough conditions!!  You really pulled it together with an impressive time.  

Thank you Thank you Yanti for posting that swim link.  I don't do the breath control drills only because it never felt natural and the ONE time I tried, I really struggled.  I breath every two strokes and it works for me.   I  use a pull bouy on occasion and practice bilateral breathing, but it really feels most comfortable breathing every two strokes turning my head to the left.  Of course I still consider myself a newbie type swimmer with a long way to go before I'm proficient in the water.

On another note, today I did 2500 yards in the pool which is great for me!  However, I kept getting cramps in my lower calf, than foot.  Than I got cramps in my other foot.  Geez, I kept cramping all over the place!!  So I'm not sure if it is a nutrition issue, hydration issue, or muscle fatigue issue.  So when I got home, I ate a burger, drank some gatordade, and put on my compression socks.  Cool    

Hope everyone is having a great day!

2012-05-01 12:13 PM
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rrrunner - 2012-05-01 11:56 AM

Thanks! That is kinda what I was shooting for.  I need to order the swim secrets book!  Maybe I'll order that one and Chrissie's book tonight. Laughing

 

I just reserved it at my library. Woooot, it's getting close to time for me to start o....m......g.....SWMMING!

I am excited about CW's book too. I had a really good conversation with her about everything she does to support the Blazeman Foundation for ALS. 

It's really great to see a professional use their success as a platform to inspire change and awareness.

2012-05-01 12:13 PM
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cggale - 2012-05-01 11:04 AM

Congrats Jogo on your accomplishment on a day with  tough conditions!!  You really pulled it together with an impressive time.  

Thank you Thank you Yanti for posting that swim link.  I don't do the breath control drills only because it never felt natural and the ONE time I tried, I really struggled.  I breath every two strokes and it works for me.   I  use a pull bouy on occasion and practice bilateral breathing, but it really feels most comfortable breathing every two strokes turning my head to the left.  Of course I still consider myself a newbie type swimmer with a long way to go before I'm proficient in the water.

On another note, today I did 2500 yards in the pool which is great for me!  However, I kept getting cramps in my lower calf, than foot.  Than I got cramps in my other foot.  Geez, I kept cramping all over the place!!  So I'm not sure if it is a nutrition issue, hydration issue, or muscle fatigue issue.  So when I got home, I ate a burger, drank some gatordade, and put on my compression socks.  Cool    

Hope everyone is having a great day!

Nice job! I've found that I do get calf/foot cramps but I can usually swim through them and they  go away.  I've heard drinking pickle juice or eating relish packets... but haven't tried those, yet.

2012-05-01 12:17 PM
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rrrunner - 2012-05-01 11:56 AM

Thanks! That is kinda what I was shooting for.  I need to order the swim secrets book!  Maybe I'll order that one and Chrissie's book tonight. Laughing

 

I just reserved it at my library. Woooot, it's getting close to time for me to start o....m......g.....SWMMING!

I am excited about CW's book too. I had a really good conversation with her about everything she does to support the Blazeman Foundation for ALS. 

It's really great to see a professional use their success as a platform to inspire change and awareness.

JEALOUS! Chrissie is my hero (and you and Yanti of course). Whenever I need to HTFU I think WWCD? If she can win Kona in the condition she did last year I can get through my pathetic S/B/R.

2012-05-01 12:21 PM
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rrrunner - 2012-05-01 12:17 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-05-01 11:13 AM
rrrunner - 2012-05-01 11:56 AM

Thanks! That is kinda what I was shooting for.  I need to order the swim secrets book!  Maybe I'll order that one and Chrissie's book tonight. Laughing

 

I just reserved it at my library. Woooot, it's getting close to time for me to start o....m......g.....SWMMING!

I am excited about CW's book too. I had a really good conversation with her about everything she does to support the Blazeman Foundation for ALS. 

It's really great to see a professional use their success as a platform to inspire change and awareness.

JEALOUS! Chrissie is my hero (and you and Yanti of course). Whenever I need to HTFU I think WWCD? If she can win Kona in the condition she did last year I can get through my pathetic S/B/R.

LOL, I think the same thing.  



2012-05-01 12:27 PM
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rrrunner - 2012-05-01 12:17 PM
Asalzwed - 2012-05-01 11:13 AM
rrrunner - 2012-05-01 11:56 AM

Thanks! That is kinda what I was shooting for.  I need to order the swim secrets book!  Maybe I'll order that one and Chrissie's book tonight. Laughing

 

I just reserved it at my library. Woooot, it's getting close to time for me to start o....m......g.....SWMMING!

I am excited about CW's book too. I had a really good conversation with her about everything she does to support the Blazeman Foundation for ALS. 

It's really great to see a professional use their success as a platform to inspire change and awareness.

JEALOUS! Chrissie is my hero (and you and Yanti of course). Whenever I need to HTFU I think WWCD? If she can win Kona in the condition she did last year I can get through my pathetic S/B/R.

and speaking of HTFU...and ALS if you guys have a minute, please watch this video: http://vimeo.com/12024950 

this is my friend Melissa Erickson (She comes in about  a minute into the video) She was going pro in Basketball when she was diagnosed.

I will be doing a fundraiser bike ride in July for her. 

2012-05-01 12:55 PM
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Asalzwed - 2012-05-01 11:27 AM
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Asalzwed - 2012-05-01 11:13 AM
rrrunner - 2012-05-01 11:56 AM

Thanks! That is kinda what I was shooting for.  I need to order the swim secrets book!  Maybe I'll order that one and Chrissie's book tonight. Laughing

 

I just reserved it at my library. Woooot, it's getting close to time for me to start o....m......g.....SWMMING!

I am excited about CW's book too. I had a really good conversation with her about everything she does to support the Blazeman Foundation for ALS. 

It's really great to see a professional use their success as a platform to inspire change and awareness.

JEALOUS! Chrissie is my hero (and you and Yanti of course). Whenever I need to HTFU I think WWCD? If she can win Kona in the condition she did last year I can get through my pathetic S/B/R.

and speaking of HTFU...and ALS if you guys have a minute, please watch this video: http://vimeo.com/12024950 

this is my friend Melissa Erickson (She comes in about  a minute into the video) She was going pro in Basketball when she was diagnosed.

I will be doing a fundraiser bike ride in July for her. 

Wow.  All of us know someone affected by some awful disease. We do what we can to help.  I have some friends at church, the wife has MS. I make a couple of meals for them each week (I'm learning lots about gluten-free). Your friend is right, make the most of each day!

(On a lighter note could someone explain to me how to quote part of a post?)

2012-05-01 1:08 PM
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jogo - 2012-05-01 12:57 AM

Just got home.


CONQUERED!!  They said that this year was the worst wind conditions ever 35-50mph.  Wind + hills + weird and stressful training cyle = PR!!!!! 5:40:23 (5:41 as my previous PR on a flat Detroit course in 2006)

Outstanding stuff Jo. Realllllly well done. That wind would have put me right off
2012-05-01 1:10 PM
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Wow Adrienne, that's a powerful video. What a terrible disease.  I hope the ride raises lots of money to fight it!
2012-05-01 1:28 PM
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rrrunner - 2012-05-02 1:55 AM
Asalzwed - 2012-05-01 11:27 AM
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Asalzwed - 2012-05-01 11:13 AM
rrrunner - 2012-05-01 11:56 AM

Thanks! That is kinda what I was shooting for.  I need to order the swim secrets book!  Maybe I'll order that one and Chrissie's book tonight. Laughing

 

I just reserved it at my library. Woooot, it's getting close to time for me to start o....m......g.....SWMMING!

I am excited about CW's book too. I had a really good conversation with her about everything she does to support the Blazeman Foundation for ALS. 

It's really great to see a professional use their success as a platform to inspire change and awareness.

JEALOUS! Chrissie is my hero (and you and Yanti of course). Whenever I need to HTFU I think WWCD? If she can win Kona in the condition she did last year I can get through my pathetic S/B/R.

and speaking of HTFU...and ALS if you guys have a minute, please watch this video: http://vimeo.com/12024950 

this is my friend Melissa Erickson (She comes in about  a minute into the video) She was going pro in Basketball when she was diagnosed.

I will be doing a fundraiser bike ride in July for her. 

Wow.  All of us know someone affected by some awful disease. We do what we can to help.  I have some friends at church, the wife has MS. I make a couple of meals for them each week (I'm learning lots about gluten-free). Your friend is right, make the most of each day!

(On a lighter note could someone explain to me how to quote part of a post?)

It gets complicated when it's post within a post within a post (like this) but if it's a single post, just erase the parts you don't want/need to quote.

Agreed on the awful disease ... and thanks Salty et al ... nothing more inspiring than that when I'm down. Want to focus on what I CAN do (myself and for others) and all the glorious blessings I have, not on my illness.

P.S. I'm ridiculously tickled to be one of your heroes, but you clearly do not read my blog enough. HAHAHA ... wait ... I like being a hero ... so don't.



2012-05-01 1:32 PM
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rrrunner - 2012-05-01 5:56 PM

Thanks! That is kinda what I was shooting for.  I need to order the swim secrets book!  Maybe I'll order that one and Chrissie's book tonight. Laughing

 

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2012-05-01 1:32 PM
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Ohhh hero...I thought that was  hello Wink

2012-05-01 1:33 PM
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cggale - 2012-05-02 1:04 AM

Congrats Jogo on your accomplishment on a day with  tough conditions!!  You really pulled it together with an impressive time.  

Thank you Thank you Yanti for posting that swim link.  I don't do the breath control drills only because it never felt natural and the ONE time I tried, I really struggled.  I breath every two strokes and it works for me.   I  use a pull bouy on occasion and practice bilateral breathing, but it really feels most comfortable breathing every two strokes turning my head to the left.  Of course I still consider myself a newbie type swimmer with a long way to go before I'm proficient in the water.

On another note, today I did 2500 yards in the pool which is great for me!  However, I kept getting cramps in my lower calf, than foot.  Than I got cramps in my other foot.  Geez, I kept cramping all over the place!!  So I'm not sure if it is a nutrition issue, hydration issue, or muscle fatigue issue.  So when I got home, I ate a burger, drank some gatordade, and put on my compression socks.  Cool    

Hope everyone is having a great day!

Gotta cover all your bases, right? Vast majority of the time, cramping is a muscle fatigue issue. The fact that 2500 is great for you (meaning more than you usually do) points to that.

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ukweeble - 2012-05-02 2:32 AM
rrrunner - 2012-05-01 5:56 PM

Thanks! That is kinda what I was shooting for.  I need to order the swim secrets book!  Maybe I'll order that one and Chrissie's book tonight. Laughing

 

e

There's a secret swim bookSurprised. Someone should have told me about it before now......................but then i guess it wouldn't have been a secret.

Not sure if it'll ship to the U.K., but always worth a try ... 1st link is the BT thread on it, 2nd is the direct book link:

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=436808&posts=72&start=1

http://swimspeedsecrets.com/

2012-05-01 1:52 PM
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TriAya - 2012-05-01 7:49 PM
ukweeble - 2012-05-02 2:32 AM
rrrunner - 2012-05-01 5:56 PM

Thanks! That is kinda what I was shooting for.  I need to order the swim secrets book!  Maybe I'll order that one and Chrissie's book tonight. Laughing

 

e

There's a secret swim bookSurprised. Someone should have told me about it before now......................but then i guess it wouldn't have been a secret.

Not sure if it'll ship to the U.K., but always worth a try ... 1st link is the BT thread on it, 2nd is the direct book link:

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=436808&posts=72&start=1

http://swimspeedsecrets.com/

There is always a way.


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ukweeble - 2012-05-02 2:52 AM
TriAya - 2012-05-01 7:49 PM
ukweeble - 2012-05-02 2:32 AM
rrrunner - 2012-05-01 5:56 PM

Thanks! That is kinda what I was shooting for.  I need to order the swim secrets book!  Maybe I'll order that one and Chrissie's book tonight. Laughing

 

e

There's a secret swim bookSurprised. Someone should have told me about it before now......................but then i guess it wouldn't have been a secret.

Not sure if it'll ship to the U.K., but always worth a try ... 1st link is the BT thread on it, 2nd is the direct book link:

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=436808&posts=72&start=1

http://swimspeedsecrets.com/

There is always a way.

Best attitude in the world.

2012-05-01 1:55 PM
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TriAya - 2012-05-01 2:33 PM
cggale - 2012-05-02 1:04 AM

I kept getting cramps in my lower calf, than foot.  Than I got cramps in my other foot.  Geez, I kept cramping all over the place!!  So I'm not sure if it is a nutrition issue, hydration issue, or muscle fatigue issue. 

Gotta cover all your bases, right? Vast majority of the time, cramping is a muscle fatigue issue. The fact that 2500 is great for you (meaning more than you usually do) points to that.

It could also be a pushing off the wall issue.  Maybe you push off harder at the end of the workout to compensate for ... something?

2012-05-01 2:12 PM
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Available on Amazon.co.uk from 30th May so i will be getting mine pre-ordered.

Here in the UK we have just had our wettest April on record which has really buggered up my training, well, thats my excuse. Nice to see that now it's May, it's been raining again. ahhhh, it's driving me mad, mad i tell you.Yell

2012-05-01 2:17 PM
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ukweeble - 2012-05-01 2:12 PM

Available on Amazon.co.uk from 30th May so i will be getting mine pre-ordered.

Here in the UK we have just had our wettest April on record which has really buggered up my training, well, thats my excuse. Nice to see that now it's May, it's been raining again. ahhhh, it's driving me mad, mad i tell you.Yell

You were mad before. I think this makes you mad-er

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