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2009-08-05 11:47 AM
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Oh so its normal to be injured at this point?  Good, I thought I was falling apart!  I threw my neck out today again...more missed workouts.  Can't swim, bike or run with a busted neck!  Chiro says I'm "over trained" and need a rest....duh, yes!


2009-08-05 12:07 PM
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Tri-Wog StL - 2009-08-05 12:31 PM I'm still on the partially capable team.........tried to run two miles last night after a ride and my calf is still showing signs of soreness!!  I am taking another full week of from running and going to be doing more overmileage bike rides and hope that I'll be O.K. come race day.........looks like a 1 week IM taper for me......yikes!

Anyone else have any thoughts on how to keep things together while injured this late in the game?  I was able to run 13.1+ at camp on July 25th and then the couple of miles last night.....I think if I can get the calf healed before race day, I should be able to suffer out to a decent IM marathon....

Paul

I'm not sure what your particular injury/pain is but Massage Therapy and Acupuncture does wonders for muscle soreness/tightness and recovery from injuries.  I was supposed to get surgery last winter for tarsal tunnel syndrome but instead decided to try massage and acupunture and I am 100% healed now - which I never would have been 100% w/surgery.  If you call around and find a Massage Therapist that has worked with athletes and can do good deep tissues - you may get a little more sore until the next day, then your muscles will start to reap the benefits of the massage (the more water you drink, the less sore you will get).   It's amazing the effect the MT and Acu have on recovery.  I tell both that they are my "secret weapons" (oh shoot, I guess it's not a secret anymore).  Anytime my muscles are feeling "twingey" and overly sore, I go in to see the massage therapist and I am back training at 100% the following day (although it's best to go the evening before a rest day).

The Acupuncture is amazing for "spot treatments".   Like, for example, with the help of my MT, we've traced my ankle problem from last winter to my left hip so tomorrow I am going into the acupunturist to have him put needles in my hip and get it to loosen up since it's not responding to the massage.

It may cost you a little bit of money but with something as important as IMKY coming up, it's def worth the investment.  I am so amazed at the power of Massage (done right) that I've gone back to school for Massage Therapy so I can work on all my triathlete friends

Not sure if you've had any person experience with either before, but that's my experience and opinion.
2009-08-05 12:22 PM
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GP160 - 2009-08-05 12:47 PM Oh so its normal to be injured at this point?  Good, I thought I was falling apart!  I threw my neck out today again...more missed workouts.  Can't swim, bike or run with a busted neck!  Chiro says I'm "over trained" and need a rest....duh, yes!
Some soreness might be expected but I wouldn't say it is "normal" to be injured.
2009-08-05 12:40 PM
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Tri-Wog StL - 2009-08-05 11:31 AM I'm still on the partially capable team.........tried to run two miles last night after a ride and my calf is still showing signs of soreness!!  I am taking another full week of from running and going to be doing more overmileage bike rides and hope that I'll be O.K. come race day.........looks like a 1 week IM taper for me......yikes!

Anyone else have any thoughts on how to keep things together while injured this late in the game?  I was able to run 13.1+ at camp on July 25th and then the couple of miles last night.....I think if I can get the calf healed before race day, I should be able to suffer out to a decent IM marathon....

Paul

Paul, I just read this the other day. I too have some calf soreness which I believe is a lingering effect of tearing my soleus muscle from the achilles last summer. I tyr to get massages every few weeks and it helps a ton. This article hit home for me.

http://www.slowtwitch.com/Training/Running/Mad_calf_disease_926.html

2009-08-05 12:48 PM
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I'm pretty beat up right now in a few places, but think taper will fix most of that.  The thing that keeps me up at night is the marathon.  Probably in much higher temps than I have been training in.
2009-08-05 1:09 PM
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Are we there yet!?!?! From the looks of things, it appears that I am not alone on the broken down body feeling! Hang in there everyone!

So besides my body starting to fall apart physically – My mind is starting to play tricks on me. I’ve been thinking about the swim a lot lately and have been contemplating getting a speedsuit. I’m wondering if anyone else was planning on wearing one and if so which one? I am just now starting to learn about them. I am not necessarily looking for extra speed but rather looking for a more comfortable swim. This will be my first triathlon without a wetsuit and I am starting to get nervous.

Thanks everyone!


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I took my tri bike to the shop today & will have it back Friday.

I am getting so nervous!!! 

2009-08-05 2:52 PM
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Bdlee99 - 2009-08-05 1:09 PM

Are we there yet!?!?! From the looks of things, it appears that I am not alone on the broken down body feeling! Hang in there everyone!

So besides my body starting to fall apart physically – My mind is starting to play tricks on me. I’ve been thinking about the swim a lot lately and have been contemplating getting a speedsuit. I’m wondering if anyone else was planning on wearing one and if so which one? I am just now starting to learn about them. I am not necessarily looking for extra speed but rather looking for a more comfortable swim. This will be my first triathlon without a wetsuit and I am starting to get nervous.

Thanks everyone!



I am wearing the blue seventy suit. In my exhausted overtrained mind I cannot remember the name of it but it is the one that alot of the pros were wearing in Hawaii last year. I've used it a couple times in open water and haven't noticed it helping me out any. But I am not that great of a swimmer to begin with.
2009-08-05 3:06 PM
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I did 121 on the bike yesterday and 5400m swim and 21 mile run today. It's all downhills from here. Bike is in the shop for final tune-up. Good luck everyone with your final training and stay safe. I'll be in Louisville on Fri for work, hopefully the city has drained by then. Starting to get my list together, I tend to rush and forget stuff, so I'm starting early this time. If any of you IM vets have a good checklist I would love to see it. Jim
2009-08-05 3:12 PM
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OK everyone count to ten and take a deep breath Laughing.  Everyone has been working hard. August 30 will be a fun and rewarding day for everyone.  Continue to follow your plan and trust that your training will bring you across the finish line healthy and happy.
2009-08-05 3:25 PM
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Spent most of the day at the bike shop (6hrs). Complete tune up w/ all cables replaced. Put new Cont 4000's on the Hed race wheels . I have one more long ride this weekend, them I'll be putting  the race wheels on the Seduza & replacing chain late next week. Best of all, my LBS owner refused to let me pay for anything, but the new tires & sold them to me crazy cheap. Sometimes it really pays off to spend your $$$ with the local guy!!!!



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opiejoe - 2009-08-05 3:25 PM

Spent most of the day at the bike shop (6hrs). Complete tune up w/ all cables replaced. Put new Cont 4000's on the Hed race wheels . I have one more long ride this weekend, them I'll be putting  the race wheels on the Seduza & replacing chain late next week. Best of all, my LBS owner refused to let me pay for anything, but the new tires & sold them to me crazy cheap. Sometimes it really pays off to spend your $$$ with the local guy!!!!



Wow that's awesome.
2009-08-05 6:13 PM
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jonmetz - 2009-08-05 4:12 PM OK everyone count to ten and take a deep breath Laughing.  Everyone has been working hard. August 30 will be a fun and rewarding day for everyone.  Continue to follow your plan and trust that your training will bring you across the finish line healthy and happy.


Thanks man.....I think we need that right now
2009-08-05 6:53 PM
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jonmetz - 2009-08-05 3:12 PM OK everyone count to ten and take a deep breath Laughing.  Everyone has been working hard. August 30 will be a fun and rewarding day for everyone.  Continue to follow your plan and trust that your training will bring you across the finish line healthy and happy.


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As my buddy Mile(Rogillio) says, " You're doing a Ironman, not storming the Beaches of Normandy."

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2009-08-05 7:49 PM
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The remaining shirts arrived today. I will package them up tonight and ship them out tomorrow. Everyone who ordered a shirt should have it by Monday (8/10) at the latest.
2009-08-05 8:25 PM
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Athlete guide is up on the louisville site. That makes it official....this race is coming up fast!..


http://www.ironmanlouisville.com/09LVAthGuide.pdf


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OK everyone count to ten and take a deep breath Laughing.  Everyone has been working hard. August 30 will be a fun and rewarding day for everyone.  Continue to follow your plan and trust that your training will bring you across the finish line healthy and happy.

THIS IS AWESOME (as well as hillarious and helpful).  GOOD CALL.

Finished my last long ride today.  Did 100 mi.  Funny, even after all the 100 and 100+ mi rides I've done...100 miles is still a long way to ride. 
It's all good though.  

May the Mighty Ohio reach normal levels and be clean.  We'll do the rest.

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OK had a breakthrough today ran 5 miles and  my IT Band  did not act up !  So all of the stretching  and rollign is paying off woo hoo I might actually be able  to run  some of this LIFE IS GOOD!   Yeah called the shop getting some new tires and a full tune up  next Wed.  So here we are in August and it was only 70 in Rochester NY this summer has been crazy weather wise.  maybe we will luck out nad  there will be a cold spell the day of the race now that woudl be even sweeter!

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2009-08-05 9:33 PM
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Ok I am going to be lazy and ask again instead of reading though 73 pages..do we get 17 hours to fnish no matter when we enter the water, or is it 17 hours minus the time spent in line for the swim?  I thought it was 17 hours, but the athlete pack says the course closes at 12:00 andyou have 17 hours from the time the first age grouper enters the water.  I don't plan on using all 17 hours, but was wondering what the correct rules are.

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wes mantooth - 2009-08-05 10:33 PM

Ok I am going to be lazy and ask again instead of reading though 73 pages..do we get 17 hours to fnish no matter when we enter the water, or is it 17 hours minus the time spent in line for the swim?  I thought it was 17 hours, but the athlete pack says the course closes at 12:00 andyou have 17 hours from the time the first age grouper enters the water.  I don't plan on using all 17 hours, but was wondering what the correct rules are.


Athletes will be required to cross a timing mat

before entering the water to record their official start time. Overall finish times will reflect

the time at which each athlete enters the water, not the 7:00 a.m. start time.

2009-08-05 9:47 PM
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That is what I thought but then read this on page 19...

 

 

 

Run: Officially closes at 12:00 a.m. Any athlete still on the run after this time will be 

considered DNF.



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yeah I saw that too...honestly I don't know.  Looks like they are closing the bike course at 5:30pm..I thought the IM cut off time was usually 5? Who knows...anyone have better answers?
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OMG is it getting to be too real!!!

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Here's the deal with race timing & cut-offs:

 1.  The race for age groupers will start at 7:00am

2.  The course officially closes 17 hours after the FIRST age grouper starts - so 12:00am

3.  The swim cut off is 2:20 after the last swimmer starts.  Meaning if the last person gets in at 7:30, the cut-off time is 9:50am.  Still in the water then, you're DNF'd

4.  The bike course has 2 time thresholds:  (a) if you don't start the 2nd loop by 2:15pm, you're DNF'd, and (b) if you don't finish the bike segment by 5:30pm, you're DNF'd.

5.  The run course also has 2 time thresholds:  (a) if you don't start the 2nd loop - mile 14 - by 9:00pm, you're DNF'd, and (b) again, if you're not done by 12:00am, the course closes.

 

Hope that helps!



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