Beer Drinker Appreciation Society 2 - Closed (Page 59)

Originally posted by ockeme3

I just completed my first Tri, 1:24:54 good enough for 5th place finish in the Clydesdale division. I was not expecting that being that I still can't swim 400 yds without stoping, I love my wetsuit, it allowed me to complete the entire swim without stopping and in decent time. I just want to thank you all for your support and the warm coors light penalty I kept in mind the entire race. Time to celebrate and enjoy some tasty brews at the Depeche Mode concert, race report coming soon! Cheers!

Originally posted by kevinbe
Good stuff Charles. That motivates me to up my long run to 11.5 tomorrow instead of the 9.5 planned. Thank You for that boost! What recovery drink do you enjoy?

Originally posted by ockeme3 I just completed my first Tri, 1:24:54 good enough for 5th place finish in the Clydesdale division. I was not expecting that being that I still can't swim 400 yds without stoping, I love my wetsuit, it allowed me to complete the entire swim without stopping and in decent time. I just want to thank you all for your support and the warm coors light penalty I kept in mind the entire race. Time to celebrate and enjoy some tasty brews at the Depeche Mode concert, race report coming soon! Cheers!

Originally posted by ockeme3

I just completed my first Tri, 1:24:54 good enough for 5th place finish in the Clydesdale division. I was not expecting that being that I still can't swim 400 yds without stoping, I love my wetsuit, it allowed me to complete the entire swim without stopping and in decent time. I just want to thank you all for your support and the warm coors light penalty I kept in mind the entire race. Time to celebrate and enjoy some tasty brews at the Depeche Mode concert, race report coming soon! Cheers!

Originally posted by mirthfuldragon

My second 20-miler is now officially in the books. There's a group that does them near the marathons in an organized fashion, so I ran with them. About 800 people showed up, and it was a great time.

I finished last week's 20 pretty strong, but with an 11:15 avg pace, so I jumped in with the 10:30 pace group; I figured it if was too much, it'd be easy enough to fall back.

End result: 20.23 miles @ 3:28:09, for an average pace of 10:21, with the last four miles around 9:40 pace; so I shaved about 15 minutes off my time. The last few miles from both are actually pretty interesting - today, an 8:30 finish for the last mile was simply not in the cards - so the pacing felt pretty good.

I'm going to mull over it some more, but I'm thinking a 10:30 target pace for the marathon is a noble goal - so perhaps a 4:30 finish. The taper should help a bit too, especially given that I've ran 92 miles in the last two weeks. I'm still shocked by that figure - I still remember the look my gym teacher in high school, as he scowled at me for walking the mile run in our fitness tests.

Originally posted by BigDH



recovery rides are awesome. Not sure how it helps your hamstrings though. I haven't really been following your hamstring issues, is it a muscle imbalance thing, are you trying to strengthen it?

I hear great things about aqua jogging. I really good workout if you have can get the motivation.

Originally posted by Qua17

So I'm slowly feeling better and the pain in my knee has gone from a 6-7 to about a 1-2. Unfortunately, the pain in my hip (burscitis) is continuing to nag me. My coach has me taking a break from the running this week to let it heal. I'm hoping to get in a bike +Strength exercises tomorrow. Onward.

Originally posted by Qua17 So I'm slowly feeling better and the pain in my knee has gone from a 6-7 to about a 1-2. Unfortunately, the pain in my hip (burscitis) is continuing to nag me. My coach has me taking a break from the running this week to let it heal. I'm hoping to get in a bike +Strength exercises tomorrow. Onward.

Originally posted by podemma

Decided to take a week off running to let a nagging soreness in the ball of my foot heal, so the plan was bike and swim this week.  Went for a nice lunch time ride yesterday and while climbing a hill halfway through the ride I dropped my chain.  Somehow in the process of trying to get it back on the ring while riding the chain got jammed in the rear derailleur and bent the cage.    After a few minutes on the side of the road I manged to get everything working to some extent and was able to finish the ride with a somewhat limited selection of gears in the back.

Guess it will be pool time for the rest of the week while the foot heals and the bike gets fixed.

Originally posted by SportzVision Octavio had a great sprint...I barely survived the Oly at the San Diego Tri! This had to be the worst, hardest, toughest race so far! To start I felt a little ill prepared and the sciatic was its consistent self, pain in my a$$, literally. I also did the tri in the middle of moving the oldest, who is going through the Big D, and my g-son pack and move back home with us. I tired not to lift anything heavy the days leading up to the race and after, well I couldn't lift anything if I wanted to. Then it took us 12 hours to get home...so much for my end of summer vaca! So the swim, while in the marina, was pretty good. I felt strong, found a great pace and drafted for a bit. I got to the first buoy, made the turn into the bay and hit the in coming tide! It was a wall. I swam and swam and the next buoy never got closer! When I arrived to that next buoy five people were already there holding on.. the boat announced they were picking people up, 3 at a time. I saw people on the boat and then dive into the water, I heard a women crying and another guy shout he needed picked up that he couldn't do it. I told the guys with me, come on we can do this! I took off swimming and when I stopped to sight I didn't seem any closer to the next buoy so I looked back...all the guys were still holding onto the buoy and looking at me as if to say, "well you didn't get very far!", and I hadn't. As a matter of fact as the scene unfolded before my eyes the buoy with the guys on it was now in front of me. I had been pushed back faster than you just read this. A stand up boarder told me to get behind and kick and he would get me back to where I started. Again, stroke after stroke and no forward movement. Just then they announced for us to turn around and head back. I did not need to be told twice I swam back, thinking the tide would push me but when I turned into the marina the tide was gone. As I took the large step onto the stairs to get out of the water my leg cramped so bad it looked like a twisted oak...I fell back in the water. The male volunteer pulled me to landing and said he was going to carry me up the stairs...ummm no! However, I was beginning to panic from the pain. Two more times he said he was going to carry me up the stairs....still no from me I wanted to finish this race. I did allow him to help me up the stairs, as if I had a choice, and when I got to the top medical was there to direct me to the medical tent. The medical tent was to the right, I turned left so walking along side of me on the way to transition the medical personnel gave me salt and electrolytes. That helped tremendously with the cramping until I got on the bike. I had nothing for the bike and had to walk up the first hill. I tried to pedal harder and faster and could not muster any strength and people passed me like I was standing still. As you can guess the run was the same thing. However, I decided, after trying to run and failing miserably that I could walk, walk fast. So I did and I was not the only one suffering out there because I passed four or five people just by walking fast. Long a$$ story short, I finished, I added about an hour to my time but I finished. First time ever that I have felt like crying as I approached the finish line. After the race, cruddy Michelob Ultra was the punishment...oh but gwaaaddd it tasted fantastic, free massage from an ex marine named Ian, who might have talked a bit too much, and my grandson cheering me on all the way! I am still sore but there is a 5K on Saturday to raise $ for a local cancer patient. Seriously, I really have nothing to complain about; lets run!

Originally posted by SportzVision

Octavio had a great sprint...I barely survived the Oly at the San Diego Tri! This had to be the worst, hardest, toughest race so far! To start I felt a little ill prepared and the sciatic was its consistent self, pain in my a$$, literally. I also did the tri in the middle of moving the oldest, who is going through the Big D, and my g-son pack and move back home with us. I tired not to lift anything heavy the days leading up to the race and after, well I couldn't lift anything if I wanted to. Then it took us 12 hours to get home...so much for my end of summer vaca!

So the swim, while in the marina, was pretty good. I felt strong, found a great pace and drafted for a bit. I got to the first buoy, made the turn into the bay and hit the in coming tide! It was a wall. I swam and swam and the next buoy never got closer! When I arrived to that next buoy five people were already there holding on.. the boat announced they were picking people up, 3 at a time. I saw people on the boat and then dive into the water, I heard a women crying and another guy shout he needed picked up that he couldn't do it. I told the guys with me, come on we can do this! I took off swimming and when I stopped to sight I didn't seem any closer to the next buoy so I looked back...all the guys were still holding onto the buoy and looking at me as if to say, "well you didn't get very far!", and I hadn't. As a matter of fact as the scene unfolded before my eyes the buoy with the guys on it was now in front of me. I had been pushed back faster than you just read this. A stand up boarder told me to get behind and kick and he would get me back to where I started. Again, stroke after stroke and no forward movement. Just then they announced for us to turn around and head back. I did not need to be told twice I swam back, thinking the tide would push me but when I turned into the marina the tide was gone.

As I took the large step onto the stairs to get out of the water my leg cramped so bad it looked like a twisted oak...I fell back in the water. The male volunteer pulled me to landing and said he was going to carry me up the stairs...ummm no! However, I was beginning to panic from the pain. Two more times he said he was going to carry me up the stairs....still no from me I wanted to finish this race. I did allow him to help me up the stairs, as if I had a choice, and when I got to the top medical was there to direct me to the medical tent. The medical tent was to the right, I turned left so walking along side of me on the way to transition the medical personnel gave me salt and electrolytes. That helped tremendously with the cramping until I got on the bike.

I had nothing for the bike and had to walk up the first hill. I tried to pedal harder and faster and could not muster any strength and people passed me like I was standing still. As you can guess the run was the same thing. However, I decided, after trying to run and failing miserably that I could walk, walk fast. So I did and I was not the only one suffering out there because I passed four or five people just by walking fast.

Long a$$ story short, I finished, I added about an hour to my time but I finished. First time ever that I have felt like crying as I approached the finish line. After the race, cruddy Michelob Ultra was the punishment...oh but gwaaaddd it tasted fantastic, free massage from an ex marine named Ian, who might have talked a bit too much, and my grandson cheering me on all the way! I am still sore but there is a 5K on Saturday to raise $ for a local cancer patient. Seriously, I really have nothing to complain about; lets run!

Originally posted by SportzVision

Octavio had a great sprint...I barely survived the Oly at the San Diego Tri! This had to be the worst, hardest, toughest race so far! To start I felt a little ill prepared and the sciatic was its consistent self, pain in my a$$, literally. I also did the tri in the middle of moving the oldest, who is going through the Big D, and my g-son pack and move back home with us. I tired not to lift anything heavy the days leading up to the race and after, well I couldn't lift anything if I wanted to. Then it took us 12 hours to get home...so much for my end of summer vaca!

So the swim, while in the marina, was pretty good. I felt strong, found a great pace and drafted for a bit. I got to the first buoy, made the turn into the bay and hit the in coming tide! It was a wall. I swam and swam and the next buoy never got closer! When I arrived to that next buoy five people were already there holding on.. the boat announced they were picking people up, 3 at a time. I saw people on the boat and then dive into the water, I heard a women crying and another guy shout he needed picked up that he couldn't do it. I told the guys with me, come on we can do this! I took off swimming and when I stopped to sight I didn't seem any closer to the next buoy so I looked back...all the guys were still holding onto the buoy and looking at me as if to say, "well you didn't get very far!", and I hadn't. As a matter of fact as the scene unfolded before my eyes the buoy with the guys on it was now in front of me. I had been pushed back faster than you just read this. A stand up boarder told me to get behind and kick and he would get me back to where I started. Again, stroke after stroke and no forward movement. Just then they announced for us to turn around and head back. I did not need to be told twice I swam back, thinking the tide would push me but when I turned into the marina the tide was gone.

As I took the large step onto the stairs to get out of the water my leg cramped so bad it looked like a twisted oak...I fell back in the water. The male volunteer pulled me to landing and said he was going to carry me up the stairs...ummm no! However, I was beginning to panic from the pain. Two more times he said he was going to carry me up the stairs....still no from me I wanted to finish this race. I did allow him to help me up the stairs, as if I had a choice, and when I got to the top medical was there to direct me to the medical tent. The medical tent was to the right, I turned left so walking along side of me on the way to transition the medical personnel gave me salt and electrolytes. That helped tremendously with the cramping until I got on the bike.

I had nothing for the bike and had to walk up the first hill. I tried to pedal harder and faster and could not muster any strength and people passed me like I was standing still. As you can guess the run was the same thing. However, I decided, after trying to run and failing miserably that I could walk, walk fast. So I did and I was not the only one suffering out there because I passed four or five people just by walking fast.

Long a$$ story short, I finished, I added about an hour to my time but I finished. First time ever that I have felt like crying as I approached the finish line. After the race, cruddy Michelob Ultra was the punishment...oh but gwaaaddd it tasted fantastic, free massage from an ex marine named Ian, who might have talked a bit too much, and my grandson cheering me on all the way! I am still sore but there is a 5K on Saturday to raise $ for a local cancer patient. Seriously, I really have nothing to complain about; lets run!

Originally posted by Burd

I am seriously considering changing up my '14 race plans. I still want to do the oly in Jan and eventually do a full IM but after doing these 2 sprints I want to go fast! I think I may steer my training to improving my times and focus on that instead of just trying to go long. I won't abandon my IM journey just set it off by a year. I figure I would be in that much better shape for it and may actually do well on the time and not just survive. In my mind and based on my racing as a teen (I actually used to win XC meets in H.S.) I honestly think I can break the 1 hour mark at next years Sept. race. The speed is in my body I just let it go and I think with some hard work I can get it back and be on the podium. Thoughts?

Originally posted by kevinbe

I'm doing the same here. After being super motivated by Charles' 20 miler, I ran 11.5 on Sunday. about 5 miles in there is a hill. Not the worst hill, but it is a good hill. I felt my calf cramp up after the hill and never un-cramped. I may have inflamed the plantar delio in my calf. I've been foam rolling it out, and it's slowly getting better, but I'm thinking of taking this week as a recovery week and running limited miles so I don't continue to aggravate.

Hope your foot heals up quickly and you can get back after it.

Originally posted by kevinbe

I'd follow your heart on this one. If your hearts not into going long this year, and speed is what your after, it makes no sense to go long. A 1 hour sprint is a very admirable goal, and would be awesome to see you do. IM in 2015 sounds fantastic!

Originally posted by mirthfuldragon



Out of curiosity, why aren't you hitting the pool more? I've found that always helps straighten out the kinks that running and cycling put in me, while giving me an entirely different set of kinks

Originally posted by Burd I am seriously considering changing up my '14 race plans. I still want to do the oly in Jan and eventually do a full IM but after doing these 2 sprints I want to go fast! I think I may steer my training to improving my times and focus on that instead of just trying to go long. I won't abandon my IM journey just set it off by a year. I figure I would be in that much better shape for it and may actually do well on the time and not just survive. In my mind and based on my racing as a teen (I actually used to win XC meets in H.S.) I honestly think I can break the 1 hour mark at next years Sept. race. The speed is in my body I just let it go and I think with some hard work I can get it back and be on the podium. Thoughts?

Originally posted by BigDH



I think that is a very good plan. The energy required to do an awesome sprint and an awesome IM aren't that different, it really is the intensity that changes. Sure you might not have to go for a 80 mile ride or a 20 mile run, but the speed work will cripple you. Also you will still be doing some long runs and bikes. I think it is the smart way to go. It will make you better prepared for your IM training.

Originally posted by mirthfuldragon



I think DH hit it right on the head - do what feels right. For me personally, and from my research and readings, there is a balance to getting strong. I argue with some of my short-course running friends about it, but I think the bottom line in training is that time=distance=speed. During the course of my marathon training, I've lopped 30 seconds off my z2 pace; I'm seeing a lot more 9:xx paces and almost never 11:xx. My early long runs this year were around 11:45 to 12:00, and now they are in the 10's.

From a running perspective, have you tried the Jeff Galloway run/walk stuff? My wife's been using it, to good effect. I should check my ego and use it too, but I'm too close to my big race to change anything. Even at a 10:00 pace, his program is a 3min run / 1 min walk ratio.

Keep up the good work, and do what works for you. There's all this pomp and circumstance that surrounds long-course racing (and it's hooked me completely), but short course is a blast. Red-lining for an hour is, in a lot of ways, tougher than long-course stuff.