What evolution debate? (Page 6)

nj newbie! - 2005-08-05 7:15 PM

What!!!!

I also come from a christian background, in fact I AM a christian....Cervelop3, I also believe that MY GOD has the power to create this world in a split second if HE wanted to. I also have a background in Biology (have a BS and worked in research for a few years) and have run into numerous people who are strongly for evolution. I, for one, believe in creation (the world is too complex, the cell itself is too complex, we can't make life happen in a tube, whatever...it's what I believe with ALL MY HEART)...But honestly...who cares? I have yet to understand what is the POINT of debating sooo much on this point! I say potato you say potatoe....

drewb8 - 2005-08-05 7:26 PM

I have absolutely no problem with creationism if that is what you believe. I just don't want the government teaching religion to my kids. That is what the parents are for and it should be my choice which, if any, religion they will be taught. I think the critical difference is that creationism/ID is a belief - it cannot be proven or disproven, whereas evolution is science - it can be tested and proven/disproven. At this point mainstream science has tested evolution and has overwhelmingly found it to be fact (yes there are parts that are not completely understood, and I am fine with that being taught). When you can say the same about creationism, that is has been tested and found to be fact by mainstream science, then it will belong in a scientific classroom, but until then I prefer to teach religion my my kids, not
have the state do it.

Det - 2005-08-05 10:46 PM I do not think school is the place for religion unless it is a religious school

Det - 2005-08-05 5:02 PM Uh yeah, in my mind it is more difficult to believe in evolution than creation. Your telling me that from this primordial ooze, a single worm crawled out.

     Evolution has nothing to do with the spontaneous origin of life.  Evolution is the process of genetic changes over time.

Then somehow, another one did as well? Oh wait were they asexual?

     Yes, most worms are or can reproduce asexually.  This is not unheard of in biology.  In fact some upper level organsims can do this as well.  Some populations od female whiptail lizards (Cnemidophorous spp.) are known to self fertilze their eggs producing female offspring.  I have more of a problem with the required inbreeding of starting a human population from an Adam and Eve.

A stretch I think. A supreme being created the universe? Actually, that sounds alot more likely to me. If evolution is true I have absolutly nothing to loose by believing everything the bible says is true.

     You've got a lot to lose.  Modern medicines would not be possible without the understanding of evolutionary priniciples, the mapping of the human genome and the inevitable treasure of genetically engineered medicines to treat diseases we cannot fight would be a waste of time, the fields of biology, geology, paleontology, archaeology, etc.and the benefits to society they have provided would fail to advance so that we can follow the dogmatic beliefs that do not stand up to scientific scrutiny.  However, if I was to follow the Bible, I would try to keep all my wives, slaves, and servants happy by treating them very kindly.

The other way around though (without faith) you may have an eternity to pay for it. Evolution is like the million monkey typewriter theory to me. Also, someone said earlier the bible is fictitious......not likely. FIRE AWAY...

allenttu - 2005-08-06 7:23 AM

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