Dear Gov. D-bag of WI: (Page 6)

very interesting...  i wonder how long they will stay there...

however you lost me at purdue...  after that painful loss for badgers last night at purdue i regretably retract my man hug comment as well...

Yeah, I wasn't too popular around the office today ...

According to the latest reports, the Dem Senators are "planning on leaving soon," whatever that means.  The rumor is they are worried the feds will grab them.  Last I heard, the AG is looking at whether there is any authority for doing so or even grounds for requesting federal law enforcement assistance (personally, I do not think there is any basis for doing so).  However, it appears the Fugitives will remain in IL for the remainder of the night.

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I don't support that, however, maybe it's (hopefully) a chance to REALLY go over the bill so that they understand it, since, perhaps, they didn't?  Wishful thinking.

The Badgers didn't have a chance, it appeared.  I caught the final couple of minutes to hear that they were behind the whole time.  Oh, well.  It's not March Madness yet, though!

I saw on the National news about Michigan.  Who's next?

Sounds all to familiar, doesn't it??

This is why I am opposed to public workers forming unions. If you want to work for the people quit trying to rip them off for every dollar you can get.

They did go to Rockford.  The Senate majority leader adjourned the senate at 5 pm today.  They are starting again tomorrow (Fri) at 8:00.  "Calls" (similar to warrants) remain in place for all Senate Dems.  They are to be arrested, on sight, and brought to the senate chambers.  There was confirmation at about 5 p.m. that the Fugitives were in Rockford.

Several of our client school districts have issued notices to teachers that all those missing school will be disciplined.  We have about 45 districts anticipating closures for tomorrow due to lack of teachers.

MADISON - Democratic State Senators who protested the budget repair bill by leaving the state have been found.

The lawmakers are in the Best Western Clock Tower Resort in Rockford Illinois.

Law enforcement officials have been looking for at least one Democratic senator to bring in for a quorum required for a fiscal measure, but Democratic Senator Jon Erpenbach confirmed to Newsradio 620 WTMJ that he and all of his Democratic colleagues boarded a bus and left the state.

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/116390569.html






Edited by JSA 2011-02-17 6:35 PM

Since you don't know me and didn't get my winky-smiley there, I was joking that the teachers did not go to Rockford.

Additional to the information you provided, I heard that the Senators already separated and left the resort in Rockford.

Anything further since then?

And some (keyword) private sector persons don't try to rip off every dollar they can get?

Yes they do but in the private sector I have a choice to buy or not to buy in the public sector I do not.

JSA


"Those who feel victimized by the bill have been isolated from the harsh realities of our current economic climate.  We, the people of the State of Wisconsin, are at fault.  All of us.  We allowed our elected leaders and our public officials to govern with no self-control.  We allowed ourselves to become burried in debt.  We have no where else to turn.  We can print no more money.

Those who feel this is an attack on public sector employees are ignoring the very platform on which Gov Walker ran.  He has set forth an agenda that will cause all of us -- everyone in this state -- some ecomonic pain.  But, what choice do we have?  Where else can we go?"



I agree with most of your post and it's nice to see somebody here that does have an intimate knowledge of the situation. One thing I don't understand though is the comment that those whole feel victimized have been isolated by the harsh realities. Wasn't taking unpaid furloughs a harsh reality? And from my understanding many state employees have not seen a pay increase in a few years (sorry don't have a link to prove that).

As far as all of us feeling economic pain; the only thing that is not mentioned as a possible solution is a tax increase. As you mentioned we got ourselves into this mess, maybe all of us, not just public sector, need to help pay for this as well through increase in taxes. I don't like this idea either, but what choice do we have, where else can we go?

Also, (and I guess this is where I'm a bleeding heart liberal) why is it a race to the bottom? What's wrong with having teachers and state employees getting nice benefits? I know many (as in at least 100) state employees (I work in the private sector and make over six figures) and I can assure you that they are not driving BMW's and living in McMansions.

Guess I picked a great time to move out of the state...of course, I went from the frying pan to the fire.

To all my Sconnie peeps...I hope this situation is resolved in the best way possible for all involved.

And Phil...you have to stop calling people d-bags...it's just not nice!

For all this gnashing of teeth, 'marchin' and 'protestin' over closing a $140ish million current year fiscal deficit, what's going to happen when we have to face the $3.6B two-year deficit of the next budget cycle? As I said several pages ago, this was going to happen at some point, if not this year, then next and to me it isn't about anything except the necessary cuts to bring our state's finances back in order. The budget gimmicks are all used up. More pain is on the way, but I'll be damned if I accept a tax increase as anything but the absolute last resort and certainly not to maintain the status quo.

By all means, pixie dust, unicorns, and rainbows for everyone!

Yes, Ma.

It was an agreement. 

Y'all keep talking about money, when it's really about collective bargaining and absolutely no negotiation. THAT'S the beef. I spoke to many many people today and they all know they need to take a pay cut. They just want to be able to have their right to bargain collectively.

If that's asking too much, I dunno...

So the middle class people are sacrificing the hit with more out their pockets is ok, but no way you'll sacrifice with a bit more in taxes? That seems fair. Can you see how the people at the rally may feel the opposite? Again, it's not like these people are loaded with money. From what I've been hearing from real people with average state salaries they are looking at at least $400 less per month.

Sorry for any grammar errors on the above post. On the trainer trying to type.

You are correct. I have gotten that same comment from the 15 or so people I talked to today (as they sped away in their Beemers

Most of them are currently in Chicago.  Today TMJ4 tracked them down and followed them to the Windy City.  Not sure if they plan on returning tomorrow.

However, the Assembly Speaker has stated that if they do not return, the Assembly will likely take up the bill tomorrow morning.  Even if all the Dems in the Assembly flee the state (which they have threatened), the Reps in the Assembly have the numbers to pass the bill.

Now, this will be interesting b/c the Assembly was the "last stand" for the Dems, who were going to try to push a number of ammendments.  However, if the Senate Dems do not show and the Assembly Dems flee the state, the Assembly will pass the bill as written.

Here is a great video of a Tea Party member confronting a couple Dems in Rockford:

http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/02/17/video-tea-party-activist-confronts-wisconsin-democrats-as-they-flee-illinois-resort/