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bradleyd3 - 2013-02-13 1:59 PM Is a Curler an athlete? They push a broom..... NASCAR drivers? Jockeys?

Are they?



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bradleyd3 - 2013-02-13 2:59 PM They push a broom..... 

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Then definately NOT!

 

 

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bradleyd3 - 2013-02-13 1:59 PM Is a Curler an athlete? They push a broom..... NASCAR drivers? Jockeys?

Are they?



I don't think so......

Drivers and jockeys rely on the machine they're on to win......no matter what they do, it's all dependant on how the machine operates.

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Is a Curler an athlete? They push a broom.....

NASCAR drivers?

Jockeys?




Golfing is DEFINITELY not a sport. Neither are pool, bowling or hunting.


We're not talking about 'sports'....we're talking about 'athletes?

One could say that what I listed (and you listed) are athletes. Others will say they're not. Guess it goes back to definition.




Good point. OK how's this:

Golfers are definitely not athletes, neither are pool players, bowlers or hunters.
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it's not a sport if the crowd has to be quiet during it


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bradleyd3 - 2013-02-13 1:59 PM Is a Curler an athlete? They push a broom..... NASCAR drivers? Jockeys?

Are they?

I don't think so...... Drivers and jockeys rely on the machine they're on to win......no matter what they do, it's all dependant on how the machine operates.

Cyclists?

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bradleyd3 - 2013-02-13 3:07 PM ......no matter what they do, it's all dependant on how the machine operates.

In NASCAR, the machines are equal.  It's a rule.

 

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bradleyd3 - 2013-02-13 3:07 PM ......no matter what they do, it's all dependant on how the machine operates.

In NASCAR, the machines are equal.  It's a rule.

 

Some are more equal than others.

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bradleyd3 - 2013-02-13 1:59 PM Is a Curler an athlete? They push a broom..... NASCAR drivers? Jockeys?

Are they?

I don't think so...... Drivers and jockeys rely on the machine they're on to win......no matter what they do, it's all dependant on how the machine operates.

Cyclists?



Cyclist have to peddle. The motion of their machine is dependant on them......jockeys kick and swat. NASCAR drivers turn a wheel.
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bradleyd3 - 2013-02-13 1:59 PM Is a Curler an athlete? They push a broom..... NASCAR drivers? Jockeys?

Are they?

I don't think so...... Drivers and jockeys rely on the machine they're on to win......no matter what they do, it's all dependant on how the machine operates.

Cyclists?

I learned to ride a bike when I was 4 so definitely, not. 



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bradleyd3 - 2013-02-13 1:59 PM Is a Curler an athlete? They push a broom..... NASCAR drivers? Jockeys?

Are they?

I don't think so...... Drivers and jockeys rely on the machine they're on to win......no matter what they do, it's all dependant on how the machine operates.

Cyclists?

Cyclist have to peddle. The motion of their machine is dependant on them......jockeys kick and swat. NASCAR drivers turn a wheel.

Not true.  A jockey needs to do little of either of those things on a well trained horse.  He does on the other hand have to use his body to direct the horse and to move with the horse and not hamper it in the run.  It takes more physicality and skill to ride a horse well than you may realize.

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bradleyd3 - 2013-02-13 3:07 PM ......no matter what they do, it's all dependant on how the machine operates.

In NASCAR, the machines are equal.  It's a rule.

 

Some are more equal than others.

Do they sleep in beds?

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Left Brain - 2013-02-13 11:28 AM

I see I struck a nerve......whatever.  I shouldn't be posting on this thread anyway since all I do anymore is swim/bike/run at a pace that my 12 year old daughter makes fun of. Laughing 

I'd hardly be able to call myself a "make believe athlete", much less a "real athlete".

 

Depreciating and sensitive LB.. See? 

PS: my coach friend said he never trained for BB as much as I do for tri's. But he did play a lot when he was in grade school/ high school, . Not more than I train though.. His words. I think it's all about effort. 

Bleh...your coach has a short memory.  If he played high school ball he practiced at least 2 hours a night during basketball season with games mixed in....probably at least 12 hours a week, not counting the pick-up games he played on weekends.   The overwhelming majority of people who run triathlons don't put in 12 hours per week, but if you ask them they are constantly training.

Hmm.. ok.. but now he doesn't put any training into it. Were i going to go play a casual game with my family I wouldn't need to either. But, I couldn't do any kind of long distance w/o lots of time spent training.  I can only speak for myself. I played tennis  and did track and my training was largely repetitive drills.  Not exactly brain surgery. 

Aw come on I can do a sprint distance race without training for it.  Not well, and not fast but I can do it.

 

Um.. i don't really consider sprint "long distance".. 

But that is all a lot of triathletes do.

 

right. and my son played little league for a few seasons and then did something else.

Sports players who hone their skills could be likened to triathletes who train for longer distances. 

Or triathletes who train to excel at shorter distances.

It's pretty clear that some folks just like being pompous and argumentative, but enough about me.

Sure, it's relatively "easy' to finish a sprint tri, but it's even easier to strike out, or miss free throws, or drop a ball. I've often considered contacting local professional sports teams and offering to suck just as bad as their athletes for a fraction of the cost.

Now you get it.

Do I? Do you?

You were essentially comparing 300 hitters in baseball to BOP triathletes. Why not compare baseball players below the Menodza line to triathletes who place overall?

No I wasn't, you are.  BOP/MOP triathletes can't be compared to .300 hitters in any regard whatsoever....that's my point.  The .300 hitter is an athlete, the BOP/MOP triathlete is just someone who exercises alot, me included these days.  It doesn't bother me in the least....I enjoy being in good shape....it doesn't make me an athlete.

 

If you say so.... I guess I didn't follow your admonition and I did take it the wrong way:

 

Left Brain - 2013-02-12 11:47 PM 

I love triathlon so don't take this the wrong way, but the fact is, it takes WAY more practice to hit .300 in baseball or shoot 75% from the free-throw line than it ever does to be able to run a triathlon.  In fact, if it wasn't for swimming, virtually ANYBODY could spend a month or two and finish an event up to Oly distance....especially with all of the walking that goes on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't like long quotes.

By my definition, you're a dbag.

Wow!!! That name getting the rounds on BT. I think someone should create a thread for "Real Dbags only"

I agree with you Left Brain in the sense that I don't ever think I will be "proficient" in triathlon even if I work hard and work  my best at it for years. So, by definition I cannot consider myself an "athlete". But I do think there are some really great triathlete: athletes. 

No no! By HIS definition you will never be an athlete. By mine, you are. But ours don't matter, it's up to you to decide whether you're an athlete or not. And if we did make a `Real Dbags Only' thread, it'd be Appa and BradleyD jawing back and forth about video games and other lame things and making fart jokes.

Your mom went to college.

OMFG 

I LOVE long quotes :=). 

This whole who can be considered "real athletes" thing came from my coach work roommates making fun of my training because they are too lazy to run 1 mile. (I find that a bit ironic)

Maybe I am just an exerciser, but I work at getting better at it.. so, even if I suck, I feel like I am moving forward with a goal. And that's a good thing. That's what I try to teach my son in regards to sport. He's smallish and has never done well in team sports. (He's doing pretty good in Karate though) But if he loved playing basketball, I'd encourage him as much as I could, and I"d keep my sh*&^^ comments about how he's not a real athlete to myself. 

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This is what Merriam Webster has to say on the topic:

Athlete: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina
 
Interestingly, dictionary.com says this:
 
Athlete: a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.
 
(Sorry if this had been posted previously -- I didn't read all 7 pages.)
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LaurenSU02 - 2013-02-13 3:32 PM

This is what Merriam Webster . . .

She sounds slow.

 

 



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KateTri1 - 2013-02-13 3:31 PM

OMFG 

I LOVE long quotes :=). 

This whole who can be considered "real athletes" thing came from my coach work roommates making fun of my training because they are too lazy to run 1 mile. (I find that a bit ironic)

Maybe I am just an exerciser, but I work at getting better at it.. so, even if I suck, I feel like I am moving forward with a goal. And that's a good thing. That's what I try to teach my son in regards to sport. He's smallish and has never done well in team sports. (He's doing pretty good in Karate though) But if he loved playing basketball, I'd encourage him as much as I could, and I"d keep my sh*&^^ comments about how he's not a real athlete to myself. 

In the end that is all that really counts isn't it.

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bradleyd3 - 2013-02-13 1:59 PM Is a Curler an athlete? They push a broom..... NASCAR drivers? Jockeys?

Are they?

I don't think so...... Drivers and jockeys rely on the machine they're on to win......no matter what they do, it's all dependant on how the machine operates.

Cyclists?

Cyclist have to peddle. The motion of their machine is dependant on them......jockeys kick and swat. NASCAR drivers turn a wheel.

But they still rely fully on the bike. Tough to win tour stages with mechanical issues.

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LaurenSU02 - 2013-02-13 3:32 PM

This is what Merriam Webster has to say on the topic:

Athlete: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina
 
Interestingly, dictionary.com says this:
 
Athlete: a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.
 
(Sorry if this had been posted previously -- I didn't read all 7 pages.)

I'd just like to note, I find it quite arousing when an attractive woman quotes multiple dictionaries.

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LaurenSU02 - 2013-02-13 2:32 PM

This is what Merriam Webster has to say on the topic:

Athlete: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina
 
Interestingly, dictionary.com says this:
 
Athlete: a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.
 
(Sorry if this had been posted previously -- I didn't read all 7 pages.)


There's a standard definition for the word `athlete'???
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Ya'll are at 8 pages now??  Excellent!!


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LaurenSU02 - 2013-02-13 2:32 PM

This is what Merriam Webster has to say on the topic:

Athlete: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina
 
Interestingly, dictionary.com says this:
 
Athlete: a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.
 
(Sorry if this had been posted previously -- I didn't read all 7 pages.)


There's a standard definition for the word `athlete'???


Of course there is....

And by those definitions the following are 'athletes'


strippers
bowlers
and competitve eaters

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Left Brain - 2013-02-13 3:59 PM Ya'll are at 8 pages now??  Excellent!!

Well if this is a competition for pages we all better start training for it!!

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Left Brain - 2013-02-13 3:59 PM Ya'll are at 8 pages now??  Excellent!!

You mean we all, right, 'cause I'm pretty sure you've been a solid contributor. Maybe not an athletic contributor, but solid.

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Left Brain - 2013-02-13 3:59 PM Ya'll are at 8 pages now??  Excellent!!

You mean we all, right, 'cause I'm pretty sure you've been a solid contributor. Maybe not an athletic contributor, but solid.

I've tried to quit.....you all won't stop.

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