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 2012-07-20 2:48 PM in reply to: #4322450 |
Master  6595     Rio Rancho, NM |  Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL PODjmkizer - 2012-07-20 1:43 PM rrrunner - 2012-07-20 3:27 PM Kirk, glad you're here. I was just going to ask for bike-related advice. Someone posted in the Oceanside thread that a smaller crank is recommended for the hills on that race. I ride hills in my training but they are work. Would I benefit from a smaller crank? Would it affect my other rides? I'm not even sure what I have now or what I would look for. HELP? Anyone? Anyone? By smaller do you mean a compact crank? Do you have already have a compact crank on the front? What is the cassette on the back (you can count the teeth if you don't know)? Yes, I do think i meant compact. I don't know what i have?!?!? I'll count when I get home. Am I counting the front or back? Which cog(s) do I count? I am a total bike newb... |
| 2012-07-20 2:49 PM in reply to: #4322054 |
Master 2770  Central Kansas | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD Asalzwed - 2012-07-20 12:05 PM ArielLIlB - 2012-07-20 12:03 PM Asalzwed - 2012-07-20 12:57 PM I have this comped entry to a triathlon on Sunday. My finger is hovering over the registration. I have only been swimming once and my bike rides are uhhhh, limited..... What's the worst that happens, you DNF and didn't waste your money on it?? What's the swim distance - you were rocking those 100s the other day, you can certainly do a spring distance swim. And anyone who can run 26.2 can ride their bike for a few miles! And, obviously, the run is a non-issue. It's just a sprint...a half mile swim. 12 mile bike. I hope you've already done it. With your speed (based on your logs), you'll be done in an hour and probably won't even break a sweat. |
| 2012-07-20 2:51 PM in reply to: #4322463 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD rrrunner - 2012-07-20 3:48 PM jmkizer - 2012-07-20 1:43 PM rrrunner - 2012-07-20 3:27 PM Kirk, glad you're here. I was just going to ask for bike-related advice. Someone posted in the Oceanside thread that a smaller crank is recommended for the hills on that race. I ride hills in my training but they are work. Would I benefit from a smaller crank? Would it affect my other rides? I'm not even sure what I have now or what I would look for. HELP? Anyone? Anyone? By smaller do you mean a compact crank? Do you have already have a compact crank on the front? What is the cassette on the back (you can count the teeth if you don't know)? Yes, I do think i meant compact. I don't know what i have?!?!? I'll count when I get home. Am I counting the front or back? Which cog(s) do I count? I am a total bike newb... I just googled your bike and I don't think that you do. You can count the teeth on that to confirm. A compact is usually 34/50 (that's the number of teeth) or so. (I think that yours is a 39/53.) Yes, a compact crank will be beneficial on a hilly route. It's not a cheap thing though -- $275 or so plus installation. Edited by jmkizer 2012-07-20 2:58 PM |
| 2012-07-20 3:02 PM in reply to: #4322471 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD Info about compact cranksets from Wikipedia: In the context of road cycling, compact drivetrain typically refers to double cranksets with a smaller (usually 110mm) bolt circle diameter than the standard 130mm or Campagnolo's 135mm. As of 2006, all of the major component manufacturers such as Shimano and Campagnolo offer compact cranks in their midrange and high-end product lines. The compact crankset provides a compromise between the standard road double crankset (with 39/52 or 39/53 tooth chainrings) and the road triple (with 30/42/52 or 30/39/53 tooth chainrings). The compact crankset has two chainrings and typical ratios are 34/48, 34/50 and 36/50. This provides nearly the same lower gear ratios as a triple but without the need for a third chainring, a triple front derailleur and a long cage rear derailleur. Both Shimano and Campagnolo recommend and sell front derailleurs specifically designed for compact cranksets, claiming better shifting. Compact gearing is not necessarily lower than standard gearing if cassettes with smaller sprockets (such as 11–23) are used. A high gear of 50×11 on a compact drivechain is actually slightly higher than the 53×12 of a standard set. Compact gearing usually has a large percentage jump between the two chainrings. In balance, it may also allow small jumps in the rear by allowing a closer ratio cassette to be used, except for the 9% jump at the high end between the 11 and 12 tooth sprockets.
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| 2012-07-20 3:16 PM in reply to: #4322498 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD jmkizer - 2012-07-20 2:02 PM Info about compact cranksets from Wikipedia: In the context of road cycling, compact drivetrain typically refers to double cranksets with a smaller (usually 110mm) bolt circle diameter than the standard 130mm or Campagnolo's 135mm. As of 2006, all of the major component manufacturers such as Shimano and Campagnolo offer compact cranks in their midrange and high-end product lines. The compact crankset provides a compromise between the standard road double crankset (with 39/52 or 39/53 tooth chainrings) and the road triple (with 30/42/52 or 30/39/53 tooth chainrings). The compact crankset has two chainrings and typical ratios are 34/48, 34/50 and 36/50. This provides nearly the same lower gear ratios as a triple but without the need for a third chainring, a triple front derailleur and a long cage rear derailleur. Both Shimano and Campagnolo recommend and sell front derailleurs specifically designed for compact cranksets, claiming better shifting. Compact gearing is not necessarily lower than standard gearing if cassettes with smaller sprockets (such as 11–23) are used. A high gear of 50×11 on a compact drivechain is actually slightly higher than the 53×12 of a standard set. Compact gearing usually has a large percentage jump between the two chainrings. In balance, it may also allow small jumps in the rear by allowing a closer ratio cassette to be used, except for the 9% jump at the high end between the 11 and 12 tooth sprockets.
Huh?! Greek to me... Does this mean spinning faster up the hills? I tried searching the BT threads for a discussion that would explain this stuff. I understand bigger gear in front means more resistance. I read in a thread that a compact crank makes it easier to find "the right" gear vs. too hard or too easy being the only choices. ETA: Read it again. I think I'm starting to understand it... Edited by rrrunner 2012-07-20 3:18 PM |
| 2012-07-20 4:31 PM in reply to: #4322463 |
| Coastal Carolina | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD rrrunner - 2012-07-20 3:48 PM jmkizer - 2012-07-20 1:43 PM rrrunner - 2012-07-20 3:27 PM Kirk, glad you're here. I was just going to ask for bike-related advice. Someone posted in the Oceanside thread that a smaller crank is recommended for the hills on that race. I ride hills in my training but they are work. Would I benefit from a smaller crank? Would it affect my other rides? I'm not even sure what I have now or what I would look for. HELP? Anyone? Anyone? By smaller do you mean a compact crank? Do you have already have a compact crank on the front? What is the cassette on the back (you can count the teeth if you don't know)? Yes, I do think i meant compact. I don't know what i have?!?!? I'll count when I get home. Am I counting the front or back? Which cog(s) do I count? I am a total bike newb...
Jayne gave good advice, honestly I live on a pancake so not sure, but I did change out my rear cassette to have a larger rear cog for the PUT, it seemed to help for the hills to have a larger spread of gears. |
| 2012-07-20 4:33 PM in reply to: #4288005 |
| Coastal Carolina | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD OK made it home, got caught up in a conversation about scheduling at work so I'm now sitting in my running gear and going for a run... |
| 2012-07-20 4:34 PM in reply to: #4322423 |
| Coastal Carolina | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD rrrunner - 2012-07-20 3:28 PM Tripopo - 2012-07-20 1:24 PM Asalzwed - 2012-07-20 3:20 PM ukweeble - 2012-07-20 2:17 PM Asalzwed - 2012-07-20 8:11 PM amd723 - 2012-07-20 2:04 PM ArielLIlB - 2012-07-20 1:50 PM ukweeble - 2012-07-20 2:44 PM Gave the dog my last piece of meat to prove to myself that i can make the sacrifices needed. Have now opened a pack of salted peanuts to celebrate/ compliment my beer  . I love Friday nights.hahaha, oh four weeks is plenty of time with that discipline! PS - I"m jealous it's already Friday night for you. I'm wasting my afternoon away here in the forums, completely ignoring the fact that I have minimum billable hours. Oopsie. I'll make up the 100 hours or so sometime in November... That is one of the reasons I don't work in the private sector! That and the fact that I get to be involved in crazy cases like Casey Anthony and the FAMU hazing stuff and get to ride in helicopters and go on search warrants AND practice law WHAT!?! Well shoot...with people like Casey Anthony, I can feel pretty good about where I sit on your priority list with my petty crimes. Now to google how to make chloroform, you know, out of curiosity. You hit that button yet? (Oh yeah, i can be the bolshy one now, cos i HTFU and hit my button) Yes, I am in. The promo code they gave me didn't work (I imagine they deactivated it MONTHS ago when you are SUPPOSED to register) but the RD told me to just show up at the expo tomorrow and she'll take care of me. Crap. I guess I better dig out my tri stuff... What do I need again?
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| 2012-07-20 5:52 PM in reply to: #4288005 |
Elite 4435 | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD ....I go to bed and come back to 6 pages! My DH birthday today - bought him (me) and ipad! I am now nearly done with part two of the tirlogy Fifty Shades of Drivel - my God it is dull but once i start something I have to finish it (hope that's true for IM!) Next I think it's time for Game of Thrones - any opinions on that? Oh and i've not read Into the Wild so maybe that's first. Sun is shining here in Melbourne, just going to do some laundry get that out on the washing line - iron some already washed clothes then go for a run, may pop into LBS for a chat with the owner, very nice piglet. Then swim squad at 3pm and then people coming for pizza. Good luck all you racers - look forward to copious reports and laughs! |
| 2012-07-20 6:40 PM in reply to: #4322361 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD amd723 - 2012-07-21 3:05 AM ukweeble - 2012-07-20 1:44 PM Gave the dog my last piece of meat to prove to myself that i can make the sacrifices needed. Have now opened a pack of salted peanuts to celebrate/ compliment my beer . I love Friday nights.
You are certainly should be committed Fixt. |
| 2012-07-20 6:57 PM in reply to: #4288005 |
| Coastal Carolina | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD I loved the first three or so of games of thrones... After that it gets a little "meh" too many characters and not alot of action. Got 2 miles in the last .75 were through driving rain and as soon as we got back- Hail glad I didn't p ish for 3 miles. |
| 2012-07-20 7:10 PM in reply to: #4322813 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD Tripopo - 2012-07-21 7:57 AM I loved the first three or so of games of thrones... After that it gets a little "meh" too many characters and not alot of action. Got 2 miles in the last .75 were through driving rain and as soon as we got back- Hail glad I didn't p ish for 3 miles. The books, right? I think the 4th and 5th are kind of fascinating in their own right, and George RR Martin is undeniably a master weaver. HOWEVER ... I was joking with one of my friends that a bunch of 4-5 could have been written Mad Libs style ... _____ Stark entered the room, wearing a ________ gown of _______ color. Lord _______, resplendent in _______, fingered his (insert name of weapon) ... And so forth. |
| 2012-07-20 7:12 PM in reply to: #4321961 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD ukweeble - 2012-07-21 12:23 AM Kirk, nice to see you back. Your opinion was noted along with those of the other Manatees. Although there was some sense in selecting the sprint, I am muppet enough to ignore that and this very morning put my money where my mouth is. My first Oly is on 19th August -signed up and paid up. So, that's me and Chris. Anyone seen any committment from the other one? (you know who you are). Kate, was going to say mythology but i like the sound of the prof that you have previously had. Yanti, you are incorrigable. Don't ever change. Salty, I'm still getting over your marathon time. Wow. Erica, Unlucky on the 'accident'. Live and learn. Glad no-one was injured. Janyne, thanks for making me make my mind up........I think. I am going to be watching the last of the TdF over the weekend, getting in a few rides of my own and also meeting my sons for fun and a BBQ Sunday afternoon. It's his 22nd B'day and his French g/friend is over for 5 days. Weather forecast is also gooood for a change, so all is fine with the world. Hope your Fridays are winding up nicely as you prep for your weekends.
Like idiot mentor, like idiot mentee! I'm so proud. |
| 2012-07-20 7:20 PM in reply to: #4322073 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD GO TJ!!! GO TRACY!!! GO KRISTEN!!! GO SALTY!!! Heh. I did a sprint tri the weekend after a marathon. Except it was the marathon that was unplanned until a couple days in advance (Elvis, world record, how could I pass that up?). Your legs might become a little uncooperative at some point during the run ... as Jens Voigt would say, "Shut up legs!" and keep turning 'em over. It's all for fun anyway. |
| 2012-07-20 7:23 PM in reply to: #4322780 |
Expert 1452 Troy, MI | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD jobaxas - 2012-07-20 6:52 PM ....I go to bed and come back to 6 pages! My DH birthday today - bought him (me) and ipad! I am now nearly done with part two of the tirlogy Fifty Shades of Drivel - my God it is dull but once i start something I have to finish it (hope that's true for IM!) Next I think it's time for Game of Thrones - any opinions on that? Oh and i've not read Into the Wild so maybe that's first. Sun is shining here in Melbourne, just going to do some laundry get that out on the washing line - iron some already washed clothes then go for a run, may pop into LBS for a chat with the owner, very nice piglet. Then swim squad at 3pm and then people coming for pizza. Good luck all you racers - look forward to copious reports and laughs!
I don't know how you got to part 2. It never captured me enough to even finish the 1st book. *yawn* |
| 2012-07-20 7:32 PM in reply to: #4322780 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD jobaxas - 2012-07-21 6:52 AM ....I go to bed and come back to 6 pages! My DH birthday today - bought him (me) and ipad! I am now nearly done with part two of the tirlogy Fifty Shades of Drivel - my God it is dull but once i start something I have to finish it (hope that's true for IM!) Next I think it's time for Game of Thrones - any opinions on that? Oh and i've not read Into the Wild so maybe that's first. Sun is shining here in Melbourne, just going to do some laundry get that out on the washing line - iron some already washed clothes then go for a run, may pop into LBS for a chat with the owner, very nice piglet. Then swim squad at 3pm and then people coming for pizza. Good luck all you racers - look forward to copious reports and laughs! Please wish Dear Piglet FOTIS a Happy Happy Birthday from me!!! |
| 2012-07-20 8:39 PM in reply to: #4288005 |
Master 2770 Central Kansas | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD Good luck to the racers this weekend! And happy birthday to Jo's husband. I hope you all have a great celebration. I went for a short swim at noon, and I'm hoping to go for a short run this evening. We're watching Eragon, so I need to wait until it's over. Getting impatient. |
| 2012-07-20 9:59 PM in reply to: #4288005 |
Expert 924 Western WI | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD Seriously, guys, this group is SO entertaining! I loved the running/advice/Salty/Yanti/issues with the dorks telling you to wear a garman (BTW - I went back to look for that thread and I couldn't find it...is it gone? hmmm...) I love the pic of cole and the pup. I love the picture of the PIGLETS and the mattress and the "workout" with the German guy. Just everything! Thanks again guys for the entertainment, I'm sorry I havent been around much - well, I've been reading, just not enough time to type (our little hospital is HOPPIN so no free time at work to do any more than just get quick little reads in...) Good luck this week RACING MANATEES!!! I hope everyone is safe and has fun!! We're turning my HIM into a quick long weekend with my parents, DH and brother - how fun! So I'll be away again for a few days. Enjoy your weekend everyone else!! |
| 2012-07-21 12:43 AM in reply to: #4322820 |
Member 892 England | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD TriAya - 2012-07-21 1:12 AM ukweeble - 2012-07-21 12:23 AM Kirk, nice to see you back. Your opinion was noted along with those of the other Manatees. Although there was some sense in selecting the sprint, I am muppet enough to ignore that and this very morning put my money where my mouth is. My first Oly is on 19th August -signed up and paid up. So, that's me and Chris. Anyone seen any committment from the other one? (you know who you are). Kate, was going to say mythology but i like the sound of the prof that you have previously had. Yanti, you are incorrigable. Don't ever change. Salty, I'm still getting over your marathon time. Wow. Erica, Unlucky on the 'accident'. Live and learn. Glad no-one was injured. Janyne, thanks for making me make my mind up........I think. I am going to be watching the last of the TdF over the weekend, getting in a few rides of my own and also meeting my sons for fun and a BBQ Sunday afternoon. It's his 22nd B'day and his French g/friend is over for 5 days. Weather forecast is also gooood for a change, so all is fine with the world. Hope your Fridays are winding up nicely as you prep for your weekends.
Like idiot mentor, like idiot mentee! I'm so proud. Had a quick browse through the training plans but couldn't find the one headed 'Idiot to Olympic in 4 weeks' I would promise to follow one though if someone an experienced, charming and beautiful mentor could put together a quick guide. Pretty please. |
| 2012-07-21 2:40 AM in reply to: #4288005 |
Member 892 England | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD Just got back from my early bike ride. Got 3.5 miles before a rear flat cut things short. Looks like a trip to the LBS for tubes and tools etc. While i wait for it to open, it's time for a hot chocolate drink and out on the MTB around our local trail. |
Luckily, i was riding a short circuit lap so i hopped off and ran back to my house. I made 16 mins before it hit so the ride counts towards my TdF total!| 2012-07-21 3:01 AM in reply to: #4323073 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD ukweeble - 2012-07-21 3:40 PM Just got back from my early bike ride. Got 3.5 miles before a rear flat cut things short. Looks like a trip to the LBS for tubes and tools etc. While i wait for it to open, it's time for a hot chocolate drink and out on the MTB around our local trail. So. Between now and Aug. 19 you need to acquire a basic toolkit in a saddlebag and learn how to change a flat. Between now and Monday a ride of either 15mi (road) or about 1.5 hours (road or trail). If you need to split that up, try to make it a total of 2 hours or 20mi. Some kind of a swim. And a very easy 15-20min run. Emphasis on VERY and EASY. If it ain't VERY and EASY, walk. I'm working on the rest of your Screaming-Edge Survival 4-week Oly training plan. |
| 2012-07-21 3:04 AM in reply to: #4323077 |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD TriAya - 2012-07-21 3:01 AM oh your bit gonna make him puke then take him to breakfast?ukweeble - 2012-07-21 3:40 PM Just got back from my early bike ride. Got 3.5 miles before a rear flat cut things short. Looks like a trip to the LBS for tubes and tools etc. While i wait for it to open, it's time for a hot chocolate drink and out on the MTB around our local trail. So. Between now and Aug. 19 you need to acquire a basic toolkit in a saddlebag and learn how to change a flat. Between now and Monday a ride of either 15mi (road) or about 1.5 hours (road or trail). If you need to split that up, try to make it a total of 2 hours or 20mi. Some kind of a swim. And a very easy 15-20min run. Emphasis on VERY and EASY. If it ain't VERY and EASY, walk. I'm working on the rest of your Screaming-Edge Survival 4-week Oly training plan. |
| 2012-07-21 3:09 AM in reply to: #4323078 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD Asalzwed - 2012-07-21 4:04 PM TriAya - 2012-07-21 3:01 AM oh your bit gonna make him puke then take him to breakfast?ukweeble - 2012-07-21 3:40 PM Just got back from my early bike ride. Got 3.5 miles before a rear flat cut things short. Looks like a trip to the LBS for tubes and tools etc. While i wait for it to open, it's time for a hot chocolate drink and out on the MTB around our local trail. So. Between now and Aug. 19 you need to acquire a basic toolkit in a saddlebag and learn how to change a flat. Between now and Monday a ride of either 15mi (road) or about 1.5 hours (road or trail). If you need to split that up, try to make it a total of 2 hours or 20mi. Some kind of a swim. And a very easy 15-20min run. Emphasis on VERY and EASY. If it ain't VERY and EASY, walk. I'm working on the rest of your Screaming-Edge Survival 4-week Oly training plan. That would be the specific instructions for the swim, yes. I think he specified charming intelligent beautiful mentor but I wasn't sure when you'd check in again so I went ahead and bit. |
| 2012-07-21 3:35 AM in reply to: #4323080 |
Member 892 England | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD TriAya - 2012-07-21 9:09 AM Asalzwed - 2012-07-21 4:04 PM TriAya - 2012-07-21 3:01 AM oh your bit gonna make him puke then take him to breakfast?ukweeble - 2012-07-21 3:40 PM Just got back from my early bike ride. Got 3.5 miles before a rear flat cut things short. Looks like a trip to the LBS for tubes and tools etc. While i wait for it to open, it's time for a hot chocolate drink and out on the MTB around our local trail. So. Between now and Aug. 19 you need to acquire a basic toolkit in a saddlebag and learn how to change a flat. Between now and Monday a ride of either 15mi (road) or about 1.5 hours (road or trail). If you need to split that up, try to make it a total of 2 hours or 20mi. Some kind of a swim. And a very easy 15-20min run. Emphasis on VERY and EASY. If it ain't VERY and EASY, walk. I'm working on the rest of your Screaming-Edge Survival 4-week Oly training plan. That would be the specific instructions for the swim, yes. I think he specified charming intelligent beautiful mentor but I wasn't sure when you'd check in again so I went ahead and bit. I was hoping one of you would know someone, but now you've started i guess you can carry on. Between you, you hit almost one of my specifics. |
| 2012-07-21 3:39 AM in reply to: #4323085 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD ukweeble - 2012-07-21 4:35 PM TriAya - 2012-07-21 9:09 AM Asalzwed - 2012-07-21 4:04 PM TriAya - 2012-07-21 3:01 AM oh your bit gonna make him puke then take him to breakfast?ukweeble - 2012-07-21 3:40 PM Just got back from my early bike ride. Got 3.5 miles before a rear flat cut things short. Looks like a trip to the LBS for tubes and tools etc. While i wait for it to open, it's time for a hot chocolate drink and out on the MTB around our local trail. So. Between now and Aug. 19 you need to acquire a basic toolkit in a saddlebag and learn how to change a flat. Between now and Monday a ride of either 15mi (road) or about 1.5 hours (road or trail). If you need to split that up, try to make it a total of 2 hours or 20mi. Some kind of a swim. And a very easy 15-20min run. Emphasis on VERY and EASY. If it ain't VERY and EASY, walk. I'm working on the rest of your Screaming-Edge Survival 4-week Oly training plan. That would be the specific instructions for the swim, yes. I think he specified charming intelligent beautiful mentor but I wasn't sure when you'd check in again so I went ahead and bit. I was hoping one of you would know someone, but now you've started i guess you can carry on. Between you, you hit almost one of my specifics. Intelligent? |
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