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2012-09-05 3:54 PM
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Kido - 2012-09-06 4:44 AM Cavemen would eat pancakes if they had Bisquik...

'Struth!



2012-09-05 3:56 PM
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Kido - 2012-09-05 3:44 PM Cavemen would eat pancakes if they had Bisquik...

Hows the diet going? I am starting to lean that way a little but am stuck on ideas, not wanting to eat much meat other than fish...

I'm about 80% there.  I really cut back on the SUPER processed things.  Candy, chips, premade fast stuff, etc.  And LOTS more veggies and lean proteins.  But I still eat some bread and rice and some mini wheats.

I sort of go with the "common sense" diet now.  I don't know the the rules of peleo anough to even pretend I'm on it.  For example, I don't know if rice counts or not.  Or beans or Quinoa and such.

I just do the "no junk" diet I guess.  Pretty easy to know what's junk and what's not - and I have my wife to tell me as well.  haha.

2012-09-05 3:57 PM
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TriAya - 2012-09-05 1:52 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-06 4:44 AM
Kido - 2012-09-05 1:42 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-05 1:38 PM

TAN is full of smart people and engineers so I will ask a question.

What creates oil pressure in an engine?

Is this a setup? 

There is an oil pump...  My ME professor had one on his desk.  It was cool to play with when I was getting lectured about my poor behaviour and worse grades.

Yep it is

An oil pump creats oil flow but not oil pressure.

Same thing that causes pressure everywhere. How much oil there is vs. how much space there is for it to be in/on. The rest of the space is either taken up by something (which affects pressure as it will create its own) or nothing (a vacuum, which can alter the how much space the oil does or doesn't take up and move it to different places).

Troof BUT what is the space that causes the restriction in an engine? That is the real question.

2012-09-05 3:59 PM
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Big Appa - 2012-09-05 3:57 PM

TriAya - 2012-09-05 1:52 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-06 4:44 AM
Kido - 2012-09-05 1:42 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-05 1:38 PM

TAN is full of smart people and engineers so I will ask a question.

What creates oil pressure in an engine?

Is this a setup? 

There is an oil pump...  My ME professor had one on his desk.  It was cool to play with when I was getting lectured about my poor behaviour and worse grades.

Yep it is

An oil pump creats oil flow but not oil pressure.

Same thing that causes pressure everywhere. How much oil there is vs. how much space there is for it to be in/on. The rest of the space is either taken up by something (which affects pressure as it will create its own) or nothing (a vacuum, which can alter the how much space the oil does or doesn't take up and move it to different places).

Troof BUT what is the space that causes the restriction in an engine? That is the real question.



The rotery girders......duh

2012-09-05 4:01 PM
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Kido - 2012-09-05 4:52 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-05 1:44 PM
Kido - 2012-09-05 1:42 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-05 1:38 PM

TAN is full of smart people and engineers so I will ask a question.

What creates oil pressure in an engine?

Is this a setup? 

There is an oil pump...  My ME professor had one on his desk.  It was cool to play with when I was getting lectured about my poor behaviour and worse grades.

Yep it is

An oil pump creats oil flow but not oil pressure.

Jackarse - just waited for someone to step into the trap didn't you?

It's a bit simantics though.   A pump does not create pressure, it only creates flow. Pressure is a measurement of the resistance to flow.  If you have a pressure guage on the intake line and the discharge line, the discharge will read much higher.  But it is the RESISTANCE to the pump's flow that is read on a pressure gauge attached to the discharge line, not pressure itself.

 

the pressure goes up with increased engine rpm (more pumping) at least initally until things warm up, once warmed up the oil is more "fluid" so resistance drops.  At least I don't notice as much movement on the oil pressure guage once warmed up. But why does the pressure not max out when the engine is cold and you push it.  Follow up question, what is the real difference in oil weights 5/30 vs 10/40...

2012-09-05 4:04 PM
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TriAya - 2012-09-05 1:52 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-06 4:44 AM
Kido - 2012-09-05 1:42 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-05 1:38 PM

TAN is full of smart people and engineers so I will ask a question.

What creates oil pressure in an engine?

Is this a setup? 

There is an oil pump...  My ME professor had one on his desk.  It was cool to play with when I was getting lectured about my poor behaviour and worse grades.

Yep it is

An oil pump creats oil flow but not oil pressure.

Same thing that causes pressure everywhere. How much oil there is vs. how much space there is for it to be in/on. The rest of the space is either taken up by something (which affects pressure as it will create its own) or nothing (a vacuum, which can alter the how much space the oil does or doesn't take up and move it to different places).

He's trying to catch us on the fact that fluids are not compressible.  You can put "more" fluid in a closed container as you can with a gas. 

The fluid is not under pressure.  You could go to the bottom of the ocean and feel a million psi of pressure due to the WEIGHT of the water, but if you brought a container up, it would not explode or expand.  With gas?  You betcha.

In my pool pump, the "pressure" you measure is the weigh tof the water it takes to get to my roof and through the friction losses of the pipes.  But take a teaspoon of water anywhere in the system, it will not be compressed or show pressure.  T

So the system is pressurized, not the oil... 

cheeky basturd.



2012-09-05 4:05 PM
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bradleyd3 - 2012-09-05 1:59 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-05 3:57 PM
TriAya - 2012-09-05 1:52 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-06 4:44 AM
Kido - 2012-09-05 1:42 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-05 1:38 PM

TAN is full of smart people and engineers so I will ask a question.

What creates oil pressure in an engine?

Is this a setup? 

There is an oil pump...  My ME professor had one on his desk.  It was cool to play with when I was getting lectured about my poor behaviour and worse grades.

Yep it is

An oil pump creats oil flow but not oil pressure.

Same thing that causes pressure everywhere. How much oil there is vs. how much space there is for it to be in/on. The rest of the space is either taken up by something (which affects pressure as it will create its own) or nothing (a vacuum, which can alter the how much space the oil does or doesn't take up and move it to different places).

Troof BUT what is the space that causes the restriction in an engine? That is the real question.

The rotery girders......duh

ball bearings.  It's always the ball bearings.

2012-09-05 4:06 PM
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bradleyd3 - 2012-09-05 1:59 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-05 3:57 PM
TriAya - 2012-09-05 1:52 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-06 4:44 AM
Kido - 2012-09-05 1:42 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-05 1:38 PM

TAN is full of smart people and engineers so I will ask a question.

What creates oil pressure in an engine?

Is this a setup? 

There is an oil pump...  My ME professor had one on his desk.  It was cool to play with when I was getting lectured about my poor behaviour and worse grades.

Yep it is

An oil pump creats oil flow but not oil pressure.

Same thing that causes pressure everywhere. How much oil there is vs. how much space there is for it to be in/on. The rest of the space is either taken up by something (which affects pressure as it will create its own) or nothing (a vacuum, which can alter the how much space the oil does or doesn't take up and move it to different places).

Troof BUT what is the space that causes the restriction in an engine? That is the real question.

The rotery girders......duh

Can you run  down to the stores and get me some of those? Oh and a bubble for the spirit level, sparks for the grinding wheel and a long weight please? 

2012-09-05 4:07 PM
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In a closed system, you can create pressure by bringing a fluid to a high enough temp to convert it to a gas from it's fluid form. 

Also, if you reduce pressure you can get fluids to boil a low temps...  AKA, the bends...

 

What am I doing?  This brings back too many hard nights of studying in my fluid dynamics class.  I'm tapping out.

2012-09-05 4:10 PM
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2012-09-05 4:11 PM
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Teejaay - 2012-09-05 4:10 PM

Haha!  I write porn .. you guys talk engines for 2 pages.

Clearly you are not my audience! 

I am craving ... beer.



Shhhh....us men folk are talking about cars.

Isn't there some sewing or sammich making you need to do?







2012-09-05 4:13 PM
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Kido - 2012-09-05 5:04 PM
TriAya - 2012-09-05 1:52 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-06 4:44 AM
Kido - 2012-09-05 1:42 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-05 1:38 PM

TAN is full of smart people and engineers so I will ask a question.

What creates oil pressure in an engine?

Is this a setup? 

There is an oil pump...  My ME professor had one on his desk.  It was cool to play with when I was getting lectured about my poor behaviour and worse grades.

Yep it is

An oil pump creats oil flow but not oil pressure.

Same thing that causes pressure everywhere. How much oil there is vs. how much space there is for it to be in/on. The rest of the space is either taken up by something (which affects pressure as it will create its own) or nothing (a vacuum, which can alter the how much space the oil does or doesn't take up and move it to different places).

He's trying to catch us on the fact that fluids are not compressible.  You can put "more" fluid in a closed container as you can with a gas. 

The fluid is not under pressure.  You could go to the bottom of the ocean and feel a million psi of pressure due to the WEIGHT of the water, but if you brought a container up, it would not explode or expand.  With gas?  You betcha.

In my pool pump, the "pressure" you measure is the weigh tof the water it takes to get to my roof and through the friction losses of the pipes.  But take a teaspoon of water anywhere in the system, it will not be compressed or show pressure.  T

So the system is pressurized, not the oil... 

cheeky basturd.

Would the pressure of the piston on the up stroke be enough to cause a vacume to pressurize the system?  But what about the downstroke, that would equalize the pressure, right?  This is very interesting to me.

But I will stop my tendancy to ask so many questions.  I learned that lesson earlier.

2012-09-05 4:14 PM
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Teejaay - 2012-09-05 5:10 PM

I am craving ... beer.

Me too. Planning on going hashing tonight.

2012-09-05 4:18 PM
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Teejaay - 2012-09-05 2:10 PM

Haha!  I write porn .. you guys talk engines for 2 pages.

 

tcarlson78 - 2012-09-05 2:13 PM Would the pressure of the piston on the up stroke be enough to cause a vacume to pressurize the system?  But what about the downstroke, that would equalize the pressure, right?  This is very interesting to me.

 

Is it really so different?

2012-09-05 4:18 PM
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Lighten up people!!!!

Not TAN, just in general.  Gawd, I love election years!

2012-09-05 4:19 PM
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ratherbeswimming - 2012-09-06 5:14 AM
Teejaay - 2012-09-05 5:10 PM

I am craving ... beer.

Me too. Planning on going hashing tonight.

I'd slurp your mango.



2012-09-05 4:26 PM
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2012-09-05 4:26 PM
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mjr66 - 2012-09-05 5:18 PM
Teejaay - 2012-09-05 2:10 PM

Haha!  I write porn .. you guys talk engines for 2 pages.

 

tcarlson78 - 2012-09-05 2:13 PM Would the pressure of the piston on the up stroke be enough to cause a vacume to pressurize the system?  But what about the downstroke, that would equalize the pressure, right?  This is very interesting to me.

 

Is it really so different?

Its the same, due to the equal travel the piston goes through during its revolution, if were different then the pressure differental would have to be resolved somehow and....

I see what you did. golf clap.   Anyway, back to oil pressure is it really a pressure measurement or a measurment of flow based a pressure scale?  Damn you Cord now I have to go look this up.

2012-09-05 4:29 PM
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tcarlson78 - 2012-09-05 2:26 PM
mjr66 - 2012-09-05 5:18 PM
Teejaay - 2012-09-05 2:10 PM

Haha!  I write porn .. you guys talk engines for 2 pages.

 

tcarlson78 - 2012-09-05 2:13 PM Would the pressure of the piston on the up stroke be enough to cause a vacume to pressurize the system?  But what about the downstroke, that would equalize the pressure, right?  This is very interesting to me.

 

Is it really so different?

Its the same, due to the equal travel the piston goes through during its revolution, if were different then the pressure differental would have to be resolved somehow and....

I see what you did. golf clap.   Anyway, back to oil pressure is it really a pressure measurement or a measurment of flow based a pressure scale?  Damn you Cord now I have to go look this up.

Rather than look it up you could remain utterly indifferent as I do! 

2012-09-05 4:42 PM
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Kido - 2012-09-05 4:05 PM
bradleyd3 - 2012-09-05 1:59 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-05 3:57 PM
TriAya - 2012-09-05 1:52 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-06 4:44 AM
Kido - 2012-09-05 1:42 PM
Big Appa - 2012-09-05 1:38 PM

TAN is full of smart people and engineers so I will ask a question.

What creates oil pressure in an engine?

Is this a setup? 

There is an oil pump...  My ME professor had one on his desk.  It was cool to play with when I was getting lectured about my poor behaviour and worse grades.

Yep it is

An oil pump creats oil flow but not oil pressure.

Same thing that causes pressure everywhere. How much oil there is vs. how much space there is for it to be in/on. The rest of the space is either taken up by something (which affects pressure as it will create its own) or nothing (a vacuum, which can alter the how much space the oil does or doesn't take up and move it to different places).

Troof BUT what is the space that causes the restriction in an engine? That is the real question.

The rotery girders......duh

ball bearings.  It's always the ball bearings.

I thought it was the Fetzer valve?

2012-09-05 4:48 PM
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Flux capacitor.


2012-09-05 5:11 PM
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mr2tony - 2012-09-05 2:48 PM Flux capacitor.

Great Scott!  Enough already.

2012-09-05 5:13 PM
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What the hell is a jigawatt...
2012-09-05 5:18 PM
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I still need to stand on the crocodile in the secret library, hit three enemies with fish in the market, and defeat 30 enemies each with the dragon sniper and Mag 5.

Bah, just not enough time in the day. 

2012-09-05 5:22 PM
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Kido - 2012-09-05 5:13 PM What the hell is a jigawatt...

Jigawatt youz a hustlin' b*tch

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