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 2013-02-13 5:41 PM in reply to: #4543349 |
Expert  1109   Guatemala |  Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - ClosedAdding a 1 hr drainer workout from yesterday, a track workout today morning (1 mile x 5) and a swim at lunch Mitch - Swim - 3 / Bike - 9 / Run - 11 / Rest - 2 / Total 23 / Time - 17:27:15 |
| 2013-02-13 6:06 PM in reply to: #4543349 |
New user 60 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed 10k run Mitch - Swim - 3 / Bike - 9 / Run - 11 / Rest - 2 / Total 23 / Time - 17:27:15
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| 2013-02-13 6:26 PM in reply to: #4621394 |
Regular 789 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed 1:08 swim with 1:17 on the drainer this morning. The swim was a challenge today. First time I have swam 3500 yards in one session. Almost decided to cut it short but I kept telling myself one more set until I finished. Breaking it down that way instead of thinking about how much I had left to do worked.
Mitch - Swim - 3 / Bike - 9 / Run - 11 / Rest - 2 / Total 23 / Time - 17:27:15 |
| 2013-02-13 7:15 PM in reply to: #4621420 |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed 35' run + 55' spin class today. Catching up for a swim I also missed.
Mitch - Swim - 3 / Bike - 9 / Run - 11 / Rest - 2 / Total 23 / Time - 17:27:15 Edited by JoePetto 2013-02-13 7:15 PM |
| 2013-02-13 7:17 PM in reply to: #4543349 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed Adding a swim from last night and a little run today. Work is kinda $#!++¥ so not much training going on. The good news is that I am going to do a cycling camp starting Saturday in the Texas Hill Country (Fredericksburg area) and this is like the Rednecks Himalayas, hehe. It will be fun! I'll ride Saturday, Sunday and Monday (President's Day) a total of around 250 miles. Mitch - Swim - 3 / Bike - 9 / Run - 11 / Rest - 2 / Total 23 / Time - 17:27:15 Edited by ernestov 2013-02-13 7:19 PM |
| 2013-02-13 7:28 PM in reply to: #4617249 |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed dangremond - 2013-02-11 10:22 AM If I decide to pursue a HIM this fall I think I'm going to use a Matt Fitzgerald plan from a book I have. I'll try to incorporate that around running 6 days a week. Goal would be to go right from HIM to finishing up a marathon plan for 1 month later. Mitch - this not a recipe for success. Too much running for HIM training and too much cross training for marathon purposes. Ernesto has said it repeatedly and I can fully attest that effective marathon training and tri training are mutually exclusive. If your goal is to finish a marathon, it may be a different story. How do you define success? |
| 2013-02-14 12:42 AM in reply to: #4621458 |
Master 1609 Gold Coast Australia. | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed 10k run this afternoon. Hot, humid, left shin splint, slight throat infection, traffic, but it got done.
Edited by markz 2013-02-14 12:44 AM |
| 2013-02-14 8:53 AM in reply to: #4543349 |
Member 146 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed 9+ miles on the treadmill this AM.
Mitch - Swim - 3 / Bike - 9 / Run - 11 / Rest - 2 / Total 23 / Time - 17:27:15 Edited by rgarcia1501 2013-02-14 8:54 AM |
| 2013-02-14 9:28 AM in reply to: #4543349 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed Busy morning. Tempo run (outside - YAY! - had to run on road due to icy sidewalks) consisting of 1.5 mile WU, 4 miles @ HMP, and 1 mile CD. Followed by trip to pool and 30 minutes of laps. Then went to Doc for part of annual exam. Blood pressure was 99 / 64 and blood oxygen level was 99%. Also, routed the tempo run to go over a Strava run segment someone had constructed and took the CR for the segment. It was too close to my house not to do it. Feeling great! Happy Valentine's day! Mitch - Swim - 4 / Bike - 9 / Run - 12 / Rest - 2 / Total 25 / Time - 18:48:57
Edited by dangremond 2013-02-14 9:34 AM |
| 2013-02-14 9:35 AM in reply to: #4621465 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed JoePetto - 2013-02-13 8:28 PM dangremond - 2013-02-11 10:22 AM If I decide to pursue a HIM this fall I think I'm going to use a Matt Fitzgerald plan from a book I have. I'll try to incorporate that around running 6 days a week. Goal would be to go right from HIM to finishing up a marathon plan for 1 month later. Mitch - this not a recipe for success. Too much running for HIM training and too much cross training for marathon purposes. Ernesto has said it repeatedly and I can fully attest that effective marathon training and tri training are mutually exclusive. If your goal is to finish a marathon, it may be a different story. How do you define success? Joe - point taken. I agree with you 100%. I have yet to map out the Fitzgerald plan side by side to a possible Marathon running plan. I know that one would have to give. I suspect I would train for the HIM as an "A" event and since it would be my first full marathon look to enjoy the race and finish with a smile on my face. Not sure how much there is to be gained to go into my first Full Marathon trying to race it. Seems like that in itself would be a recipe for disaster. Too many unknowns regarding how my body would respond in the last 1/4 of the race. I'm happy for any other input the team has. Edited by dangremond 2013-02-14 9:40 AM |
| 2013-02-14 9:56 AM in reply to: #4621206 |
Veteran 419 clayton | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed markhodges1973 - 2013-02-13 4:24 PM Question to all you Bronze members - I see you can log access to the free HIM 20wk detailed plan. Does this mean I can take the free plan and import it into my training log? More importantly, has anyone used the BT HIM 20wk plan - comments/feedback? |
| 2013-02-14 9:58 AM in reply to: #4622028 |
Member 146 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed OK, I'm looking to do this the other way. This is going to be my first year doing tri's. I've been running for three years now and I have 2 big goals this year. 1. Qualify for Boston 2. Do a HIM The marathon that I plan to run is on May19th. I follow a marathon plan that has 3 days of running and 3 crosstrain days along with one rest day. So my question is....is it realistic to train for the marathon and then be ready to do the Racine HIM 9 weeks later. I am on track to be able to qualify which is the big goal, as far as the HIM goes the goal is to finish and have a good time. Doing the HIM gives me a time that I can improve on in future years. Thoughts...suggestions. Thanks dangremond - 2013-02-14 9:35 AM JoePetto - 2013-02-13 8:28 PM dangremond - 2013-02-11 10:22 AM If I decide to pursue a HIM this fall I think I'm going to use a Matt Fitzgerald plan from a book I have. I'll try to incorporate that around running 6 days a week. Goal would be to go right from HIM to finishing up a marathon plan for 1 month later. Mitch - this not a recipe for success. Too much running for HIM training and too much cross training for marathon purposes. Ernesto has said it repeatedly and I can fully attest that effective marathon training and tri training are mutually exclusive. If your goal is to finish a marathon, it may be a different story. How do you define success? Joe - point taken. I agree with you 100%. I have yet to map out the Fitzgerald plan side by side to a possible Marathon running plan. I know that one would have to give. I suspect I would train for the HIM as an "A" event and since it would be my first full marathon look to enjoy the race and finish with a smile on my face. Not sure how much there is to be gained to go into my first Full Marathon trying to race it. Seems like that in itself would be a recipe for disaster. Too many unknowns regarding how my body would respond in the last 1/4 of the race. I'm happy for any other input the team has. |
| 2013-02-14 10:45 AM in reply to: #4622075 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed rgarcia1501 - 2013-02-14 9:58 AM you can do it, but not 100% on both of them. One of them will have to be about covering the distance without an ambitious goal.OK, I'm looking to do this the other way. This is going to be my first year doing tri's. I've been running for three years now and I have 2 big goals this year. 1. Qualify for Boston 2. Do a HIM The marathon that I plan to run is on May19th. I follow a marathon plan that has 3 days of running and 3 crosstrain days along with one rest day. So my question is....is it realistic to train for the marathon and then be ready to do the Racine HIM 9 weeks later. I am on track to be able to qualify which is the big goal, as far as the HIM goes the goal is to finish and have a good time. Doing the HIM gives me a time that I can improve on in future years. Thoughts...suggestions. Thanks dangremond - 2013-02-14 9:35 AM JoePetto - 2013-02-13 8:28 PM dangremond - 2013-02-11 10:22 AM If I decide to pursue a HIM this fall I think I'm going to use a Matt Fitzgerald plan from a book I have. I'll try to incorporate that around running 6 days a week. Goal would be to go right from HIM to finishing up a marathon plan for 1 month later. Mitch - this not a recipe for success.  Too much running for HIM training and too much cross training for marathon purposes.  Ernesto has said it repeatedly and I can fully attest that effective marathon training and tri training are mutually exclusive.  If your goal is to finish a marathon, it may be a different story.  How do you define success? Joe - point taken. I agree with you 100%. I have yet to map out the Fitzgerald plan side by side to a possible Marathon running plan. I know that one would have to give. I suspect I would train for the HIM as an "A" event and since it would be my first full marathon look to enjoy the race and finish with a smile on my face. Not sure how much there is to be gained to go into my first Full Marathon trying to race it. Seems like that in itself would be a recipe for disaster. Too many unknowns regarding how my body would respond in the last 1/4 of the race. I'm happy for any other input the team has. |
| 2013-02-14 12:46 PM in reply to: #4622075 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed rgarcia1501 - 2013-02-14 10:58 AM The marathon that I plan to run is on May19th. I follow a marathon plan that has 3 days of running and 3 crosstrain days along with one rest day. Are you following the FIRST plan? Regardless, what is your running base? How many miles per week and frequency per week did you run last year? |
| 2013-02-14 12:59 PM in reply to: #4543349 |
Veteran 487 Nova Scotia, Canada | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed 35 minutes in the pool at lunch. Mitch - Swim - 4 / Bike - 9 / Run - 12 / Rest - 2 / Total 25 / Time - 18:48:57 |
| 2013-02-14 1:23 PM in reply to: #4622428 |
Member 146 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed Its actually a plan that I used last year. Its a 16 week plan that starts at 17 miles a week and max's out at 36 miles. I followed it pretty closely last year but unfortunately on my last long run before taper I pulled my hamstring on an unfamiliar route so was not able to run the time I wanted. I've heard of the FIRST plans but have not actually seen one. My understanding is that the plan is based on the time that you want to run. Have you used or had any luck with them? dangremond - 2013-02-14 12:46 PM rgarcia1501 - 2013-02-14 10:58 AM The marathon that I plan to run is on May19th. I follow a marathon plan that has 3 days of running and 3 crosstrain days along with one rest day. Are you following the FIRST plan? Regardless, what is your running base? How many miles per week and frequency per week did you run last year? |
| 2013-02-14 1:59 PM in reply to: #4543349 |
Expert 1255 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed Happy Valentine's Day! Be sure to THANK your significant other and children for being your wonderful support team! Mitch - Swim - 4 / Bike - 9 / Run - 12 / Rest - 2 / Total 25 / Time - 18:48:57 |
| 2013-02-14 2:14 PM in reply to: #4543349 |
Veteran 173 Lees Summit | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed Mitch - Swim - 4 / Bike - 9 / Run - 12 / Rest - 2 / Total 25 / Time - 18:48:57 Trevor - Swim - 6/ Bike 9 / Run - 5/ Rest - 2/ Total 18 /Time - 25:18:10 Scott - Swim - 8 / Bike - 7 / Run - 5 / Rest -2 / Total 20 / Time - 13:42:00 Taylor - Swim - 2 / Bike - 8 / Run - 7 / Rest - 2 / Total 17/ Time - 14:58:00 Derek - Swim - 8 / Bike - 4 / Run - 4 / Rest - 3 / Total 16 / Time 12:10:20 Randy- Swim - 3 / Bike - 4 / Run - 9/ Rest - 2 / Total 16 / Time - 11:38:00 Mark Z - Swim - 2 / Bike - 6 / Run - 7 / Rest - 2 / Total 15 / Time - 15:37:00 Gabe - Swim - 3 / Bike - 5 / Run - 6 / Rest - 2 / Total 14 / Time - 18:30:45 Tiffany - Swim - 4 / Bike - 6 / Run - 4 / Rest - 2 / Total 14 / Time - 14:10:30 Jim - Swim- 0/Bike - 4/Run - 8/Rest - 4 / Total 12/ Time- 10:18:41 Matthew - Swim - 7 / Bike - 4 / Run - 4 / Rest - 2 / Total 15 Time - 14:25:15 Ernesto - Swim - 3 / Bike - 3 / Run - 6 / Rest - 4 / Total 12 / Time - 15:31:15 Jackie - Swim - 0 / Bike - 0 / Run - 11 / Rest - 3 / Total 11 / Time - 17:59:27 Greg - Swim - 4 / Bike - 2 / Run - 3 / Rest - 3 / Total 9 / Time - 7:25:00 Mike - Swim - 3/ Bike - 3 / Run - 2/ Rest - 4 / Total 8 / Time 06:57:00 JoeP - Swim - 2 /Bike - 3 / Run 6 / Rest 3 / Total 11 Time 8:16:52 Jordan - Swim - 6 / Bike - 1 / Run - 1 / Rest - 0 / Total - 8 / Time - 05:49:07 Robert - Swim - 1 / Bike - 2 / Run - 3 / Rest - 2 / Total 6 Time 5:24:19 Mark H - Swim - 1 / Bike - 2 / Run - 3 / Rest - 0 / Total 6 / Time - 3:40:00 Juancho - Swim - 2/ Bike -1 / Run - 2 / Rest - 0 / Total 5 / Time - 5:17:37 Charlotte - Swim - 0 / Bike - 3 / Run - 1 / Rest - 3 / Total 4 / Time - 3:20 Barry - Swim - 0 / Bike - 1 / Run - 1 / Rest - 0 / Total - 2 / Time - 1:11:04 |
| 2013-02-14 2:43 PM in reply to: #4622631 |
Regular 789 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed Rest day for me
Mitch - Swim - 4 / Bike - 9 / Run - 12 / Rest - 2 / Total 25 / Time - 18:48:57 |
| 2013-02-14 2:50 PM in reply to: #4622529 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed rgarcia1501 - 2013-02-14 2:23 PM Its actually a plan that I used last year. Its a 16 week plan that starts at 17 miles a week and max's out at 36 miles. I followed it pretty closely last year but unfortunately on my last long run before taper I pulled my hamstring on an unfamiliar route so was not able to run the time I wanted. I've heard of the FIRST plans but have not actually seen one. My understanding is that the plan is based on the time that you want to run. Have you used or had any luck with them? dangremond - 2013-02-14 12:46 PM rgarcia1501 - 2013-02-14 10:58 AM The marathon that I plan to run is on May19th. I follow a marathon plan that has 3 days of running and 3 crosstrain days along with one rest day. Are you following the FIRST plan? Regardless, what is your running base? How many miles per week and frequency per week did you run last year? I've used the FIRST plan for a HM in the past. Its a 3 run per week plan (w/2 days of crosstraining) - very intense - no real easy miles. All run times are set off of an established 10k run, etc., not the time you want to obtain. You take your 10K time and figure out the corresponding HM or Marathon time and then your training run paces are built off of that. I ultimately ended up either injured or sick and it was too much intensity for me to stay true to the plan. I think for individuals with a base built over multiple years, the 3 days per week running plans can work. As you can tell from my current training I've become a proponent of the run more often and run more distance philosophy. Runs are mostly easy, sometimes fast. |
| 2013-02-14 4:55 PM in reply to: #4622066 |
Extreme Veteran 576 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed markhodges1973 - 2013-02-14 11:56 PM markhodges1973 - 2013-02-13 4:24 PM Question to all you Bronze members - I see you can log access to the free HIM 20wk detailed plan. Does this mean I can take the free plan and import it into my training log? More importantly, has anyone used the BT HIM 20wk plan - comments/feedback? Mark - I have use the BT program for my last race. You will finish and you will feel ok if you do the times etc. Its not a full on program and i don't think you will win using it. But for a mid-pack racer it works ok. |
| 2013-02-14 4:57 PM in reply to: #4543349 |
Extreme Veteran 576 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed Mitch - Swim - 4 / Bike - 9 / Run - 12 / Rest - 2 / Total 25 / Time - 18:48:57 Matthew - Swim - 8 / Bike - 5 / Run - 4 / Rest - 2 / Total 17 Time - 15:35:15 |
| 2013-02-14 7:31 PM in reply to: #4622872 |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed 1 Hr Trainer Ride. Starting in on that consistency thing as the ramp up begins. I am making the conscious decision to avoid racing for a while, which is tough. My favorite 5 miler is this weekend and I am taking the pass since I am not 100%.
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| 2013-02-14 7:36 PM in reply to: #4622066 |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed markhodges1973 - 2013-02-14 10:56 AM markhodges1973 - 2013-02-13 4:24 PM Question to all you Bronze members - I see you can log access to the free HIM 20wk detailed plan. Does this mean I can take the free plan and import it into my training log? More importantly, has anyone used the BT HIM 20wk plan - comments/feedback? I used this plan for my first HIM. It will get you there if you follow it. The program is good for a while, but like any plan you get to a point where you learn what needs to give and what needs to be pushed. My feeling is that plan is way too swim heavy and not enough focused on the bike. That said, going into my first HIM, I was way psyched out on the swim so I felt that I needed the extra assurance. The reality is that you don't need 3000+ yd swim sets when training for a HIM. It is certainly a good way to go for your first hiM. |
| 2013-02-14 7:45 PM in reply to: #4622702 |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (5th season) - Closed dangremond - 2013-02-14 3:50 PM rgarcia1501 - 2013-02-14 2:23 PM I think for individuals with a base built over multiple years, the 3 days per week running plans can work. As you can tell from my current training I've become a proponent of the run more often and run more distance philosophy. Runs are mostly easy, sometimes fast. I'm counterpoint on the FIRST plan. I did it for my first full marathon and felt that it just isn't adequate with only 3 days per week of actual running. Too much intensity and not enough slower MAF runs will leave you fried and undertrained. Coach E advised me that the benefits of running more frequently is the neuro-muscular adaptions your body goes through to handle the impact. When you run 5-6 per week and do it for a long period of time your ability to handle a heavy training load dramatically improves. In a year I went from a 3:49 marathon (FIRST plan) to a 3:28 marathon (5-6 runs per week). I can tell you the runs during the FIRST training were far more difficult than running with more frequency and consistency. |
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