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2009-04-02 7:15 AM
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T in Liberty Lake - 2009-04-02 4:57 AM
awal1 - 2009-03-30 7:38 AM

I should already know this, but how are the roads on the CDA course?  Smooth, asphalt, chip & seal?

Smooth (in spots), asphalt (I've heard of it), chip & seal (lots of it).  I have never had an issue with the IMCDA roads.  There is a lot of chip-seal on the course but on race day you can ride in the car wheel tracks so it really is not the same as riding 112 miles on a chip-seal shoulder.  My biggest concern is the condition of the north loop after the winter.  In the past there have been lot of pot holes but they always get fixed by race day.  We have had more snow than usual this year so I still have not riden this section yet this year.  More snow last night, so I might not be able to ride it this weekend. 

Good info.  Please let us know how the roads are if you get a chance to go out!



2009-04-02 8:56 AM
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Local predictions for ice-out on the lake?? 
2009-04-02 7:26 PM
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Birkierunner - 2009-04-02 5:56 AM Local predictions for ice-out on the lake?? 

I wish.  I can run faster on ice than I can swim.  However, the lake is already thawed out.

2009-04-02 7:47 PM
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T in Liberty Lake - 2009-04-02 8:26 PM

Birkierunner - 2009-04-02 5:56 AM Local predictions for ice-out on the lake?? 

I wish.  I can run faster on ice than I can swim.  However, the lake is already thawed out.

Guess we should be thankful for no ice. !! 

 

2009-04-02 8:03 PM
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sgillen - 2009-04-02 8:47 PM
T in Liberty Lake - 2009-04-02 8:26 PM

Birkierunner - 2009-04-02 5:56 AM Local predictions for ice-out on the lake?? 

I wish.  I can run faster on ice than I can swim.  However, the lake is already thawed out.

Guess we should be thankful for no ice. !! 

 

 Perfect - because me and my flippers are ready for the swim! 

2009-04-02 8:27 PM
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sgillen - 2009-04-02 7:47 PM
T in Liberty Lake - 2009-04-02 8:26 PM

Birkierunner - 2009-04-02 5:56 AM Local predictions for ice-out on the lake?? 

I wish.  I can run faster on ice than I can swim.  However, the lake is already thawed out.

Guess we should be thankful for no ice. !! 

I'll be thankful for an additional 30-35F in the water between now and race day. 



2009-04-02 8:29 PM
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McFuzz - 2009-04-02 8:27 PM
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T in Liberty Lake - 2009-04-02 8:26 PM

Birkierunner - 2009-04-02 5:56 AM Local predictions for ice-out on the lake?? 

I wish.  I can run faster on ice than I can swim.  However, the lake is already thawed out.

Guess we should be thankful for no ice. !! 

I'll be thankful for an additional 30-35F in the water between now and race day. 

As long as I can use my flotation device....err, I mean wetsuit!

2009-04-02 8:49 PM
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I have a sleeveless and I don't want to buy another wetsuit! What are the odds that it will be warm in the water but cold on the run.....please, please.
2009-04-02 10:08 PM
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DonJ - 2009-04-02 9:49 PM I have a sleeveless and I don't want to buy another wetsuit! What are the odds that it will be warm in the water but cold on the run.....please, please.
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2 years ago I swam in a sleeveless and neoprene cap.  That is my plan again this year. 

2009-04-02 10:09 PM
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2009-04-03 5:22 AM
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Weather is breaking out nicely here, Ran in shorts and a T-shirt yesterday and supposed to be in mid 60's for Sunday's long ride!

My body is so freakin white I'm almost luminescent! I need some color!



2009-04-03 7:23 AM
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Its warming up nicely here.  A lot of us in the south have our first race this weekend.  There are pretty big HIM's in Galveston and New Orleans.  This should be a good early test of my fitness level, or a horrible warning.
2009-04-03 8:24 AM
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I wish it was warming up in Chicago.  They are forecasting another round of snow on Sunday and Monday.  I'm sick of this weather and am ready to get outside. 
2009-04-03 3:20 PM
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If CdA is windy, I should be very prepared. Another 76 miles in the wind today(gusts up to 35 mph). It is April, not March. Go away, wind. Shoo!

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2009-04-05 1:08 PM
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finally de-lurking!

Nothing quite like basically taking a week off of real training (in addition to no pool access) for relocation for an Air Force TDY assignment (Wyoming -> Alabama for 6 weeks). I'm following BT's beginner IM program -- will that past week off affect me too much? All y'alls' 100 mile rides scare me... I haven't gotten near that on the BT program!! Is anyone else on this program? Or has anyone else used it with good results?

Any reassurance would be grand .

2009-04-05 1:24 PM
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lemyhr - 2009-04-05 11:08 AM

finally de-lurking!

Nothing quite like basically taking a week off of real training (in addition to no pool access) for relocation for an Air Force TDY assignment (Wyoming -> Alabama for 6 weeks). I'm following BT's beginner IM program -- will that past week off affect me too much? All y'alls' 100 mile rides scare me... I haven't gotten near that on the BT program!! Is anyone else on this program? Or has anyone else used it with good results?

Any reassurance would be grand .

I'll also stop lurking a bit to respond... I'm starting to get freaked out a bit.  I've also not been able to put in the training volume I need.  Work, family, nasty colds.. it all ads up.  I'm on the BT intermediate program and I haven't gotten in any 100 + rides yet either.  

 Here's what I figure... train what you can, do your best, that's all you can do.  With less than 2 months left, train smart... 

 

Anyway, I'm starting to wonder what I signed up for!



2009-04-05 2:24 PM
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lemyhr - 2009-04-05 1:08 PM

finally de-lurking!

Nothing quite like basically taking a week off of real training (in addition to no pool access) for relocation for an Air Force TDY assignment (Wyoming -> Alabama for 6 weeks). I'm following BT's beginner IM program -- will that past week off affect me too much? All y'alls' 100 mile rides scare me... I haven't gotten near that on the BT program!! Is anyone else on this program? Or has anyone else used it with good results?

Any reassurance would be grand .

First, welcome to BT!  Don't worry about what everybody else is doing.  Follow the plan, race your own race and have fun!  FWIW, I haven't done any 100 mile rides yet either.  I've done a few in the 80 mile range, but none up to 100.  You also can't sweat about missed workouts.  You'll never get them back, so just move on to the next workout!

2009-04-05 2:43 PM
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AndrewMT - 2009-04-05 3:24 PM

lemyhr - 2009-04-05 1:08 PM

finally de-lurking!

Nothing quite like basically taking a week off of real training (in addition to no pool access) for relocation for an Air Force TDY assignment (Wyoming -> Alabama for 6 weeks). I'm following BT's beginner IM program -- will that past week off affect me too much? All y'alls' 100 mile rides scare me... I haven't gotten near that on the BT program!! Is anyone else on this program? Or has anyone else used it with good results?

Any reassurance would be grand .

First, welcome to BT!  Don't worry about what everybody else is doing.  Follow the plan, race your own race and have fun!  FWIW, I haven't done any 100 mile rides yet either.  I've done a few in the 80 mile range, but none up to 100.  You also can't sweat about missed workouts.  You'll never get them back, so just move on to the next workout!



I think all of us are feeling worried about where we are in training. I've been really working on the bike because I haven't run one step since Valentine's Day due to a strained hip flexor. So I panic when I look at everyone's tremendous running mileage in their logs. I echo everyone else: Follow your plan, do your best and have a blast on race day
2009-04-05 3:42 PM
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Agreed with everyone above!  I just missed a whole week with a bad flu.  Just continue to build from what you've got and stick to your plan.  Good luck!

2009-04-05 4:42 PM
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Managed to get in my 2nd 100+ mile Saturday ride in a row yesterday with a 105.6 miles, still in the low 40s for temps

For those who haven't seen it, I have a lot of race course pics in my IM CDA album - I took them last fall on a visit



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2009-04-05 5:12 PM
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Birkierunner - 2009-04-05 4:42 PM

Managed to get in my 2nd 100+ mile Saturday ride in a row yesterday with a 105.6 miles, still in the low 40s for temps

For those who haven't seen it, I have a lot of race course pics in my IM CDA album - I took them last fall on a visit

Great pictures.  It looks like a beautiful course!

Is it as hilly as the pictures make it look?  I've been fortunate enough to ride a lot of hills here in TN, but for some reason it looks hillier there. 

Great job on your riding...especially in those temperatures!



2009-04-05 6:20 PM
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AndrewMT - 2009-04-05 6:12 PM
Birkierunner - 2009-04-05 4:42 PM

Managed to get in my 2nd 100+ mile Saturday ride in a row yesterday with a 105.6 miles, still in the low 40s for temps

For those who haven't seen it, I have a lot of race course pics in my IM CDA album - I took them last fall on a visit

Great pictures.  It looks like a beautiful course!

Is it as hilly as the pictures make it look?  I've been fortunate enough to ride a lot of hills here in TN, but for some reason it looks hillier there. 

Great job on your riding...especially in those temperatures!

The hills on the back half of the course keep coming.  I don't know your definition of hilly, but for this flatlander they were a challenge on the second loop. 

For those who missed workouts, don't worry about it and keep moving forward. There is no magical training formula. 

I am starting to get excited for June.  For those counting, 76 more days! 



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2009-04-07 12:58 PM
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A couple of things I learned on my partial ride of the CdA course last weekend:

1.  If you can't see the end of a hill behind the trees, it's probably not a good idea to just let 'er rip.  There is one place with a really sharp right turn that is just out of sight behind the trees at the end of a great downhill.  I would expect volunteers telling racers to slow down right around there.
2.  If you can see the top of one of the nasty short steep hills on the course (maybe on English Point?), it's not necessarily the top.  It is entirely possible that once you crest that little rise that the hill continues for a bit. 

2009-04-07 1:34 PM
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I agree, there are two corners that can be race enders.

N. Lakeview onto N. Rimrock.  As you head down hill into this 180 degree right hand curve the pavement on Lakeview is rough, so your front end will be jumping around a little.  Then as you take the corner the pavement is sloped opposite of the curve, this makes it very easy to over shot the curve and end up in the ditch. 

There is also a 180 degree right hand curve at the bottom of the first downhill on English Point Road.  There is not a lot of cross slope on this curve so it can be hard to hold your line as you go around.  Also there is a gravel driveway near this curve so if it has been raining there can be dirt/sand washed into the curve.

I rode the north loop on Sunday and thought most of the road was in good condition.  There are some potholes on the slow uphill sections but the downhills all seem to be in good shape, with one exception.  The last downhill on Landcaster sucks, there is a lot of potholing and aligatored pavement in this 1/2 mile section.  Hopefully this section will be in better shape come race day.

2009-04-07 1:35 PM
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c_cic - 2009-04-07 10:58 AM A couple of things I learned on my partial ride of the CdA course last weekend:

1.  If you can't see the end of a hill behind the trees, it's probably not a good idea to just let 'er rip.  There is one place with a really sharp right turn that is just out of sight behind the trees at the end of a great downhill.  I would expect volunteers telling racers to slow down right around there.
2.  If you can see the top of one of the nasty short steep hills on the course (maybe on English Point?), it's not necessarily the top.  It is entirely possible that once you crest that little rise that the hill continues for a bit. 

Have a few hills like that around here... should be good training for me....

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