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2009-11-09 2:14 PM
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Helpful tips:

If folks are having trouble fitting in the full P90X workouts into your usual S/B/R routine, you can easily do a "halfsies" rotation - the strength workouts are all structured in such a way to make them really easy to split in 1/2. You'll still get in a great workout, but in 1/2 the time.

Another option is to look into the X+ series - another series by Tony, very P90X in feel, but more "functional" - the strength workouts remind me a lot of CoreSyn in the original X. TotalBody+ is one of the best full body strength workouts for athletes, in my opinion! You can schedule TotalBody+ 2x/week fairly easily with s/b/r (at least in my experience), or structure a lot of fun rotations using a combination of the X and X+ workouts.

Hopefully this hasn't been mentioned already! Feel free to ping me with questions - I'm multi-year X-veteran, and a BeachBody coach.


2009-11-09 3:32 PM
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mspina - 2009-11-09 12:14 PM Helpful tips: If folks are having trouble fitting in the full P90X workouts into your usual S/B/R routine, you can easily do a "halfsies" rotation - the strength workouts are all structured in such a way to make them really easy to split in 1/2. You'll still get in a great workout, but in 1/2 the time. Another option is to look into the X+ series - another series by Tony, very P90X in feel, but more "functional" - the strength workouts remind me a lot of CoreSyn in the original X. TotalBody+ is one of the best full body strength workouts for athletes, in my opinion! You can schedule TotalBody+ 2x/week fairly easily with s/b/r (at least in my experience), or structure a lot of fun rotations using a combination of the X and X+ workouts. Hopefully this hasn't been mentioned already! Feel free to ping me with questions - I'm multi-year X-veteran, and a BeachBody coach.

 

I am pretty sure that no one (not me for sure) has mentioned combining different programs.  Sounds like fun,  but then again I think "Insanity" sounds fun.  I need to try that some day soon.

2009-11-09 4:59 PM
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saling4 - 2009-11-09 4:32 PM

I am pretty sure that no one (not me for sure) has mentioned combining different programs.  Sounds like fun,  but then again I think "Insanity" sounds fun.  I need to try that some day soon.



The X+ comes with a rotation to help you mix up the Classic X with the X+ workouts, and once you get them, you can really just figure out what makes sense for you and your training. It definitely helps mix things up a bit.

I hear you on Insanity!!! I got it a while back, but haven't yet started it - I really need to!!!!! Even if only for a couple of workouts a week. I've heard AMAZING things about it.
2009-11-09 5:46 PM
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Insanity looks awesome for sure.  You will have to let me know how that works.

2009-11-09 11:53 PM
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I do the same kinds of variations--split the lifting routines in half and mix and match them--and it works really well with tri training. You really don't need to be doing an hour of lifting per workout. Halfsies still include more exercises and reps than you'll get in a lot of weightlifting plans. I just hit 'em hard and get in as many reps as my body can handle in 30 minutes.

mspina - 2009-11-09 1:14 PM

Helpful tips:

If folks are having trouble fitting in the full P90X workouts into your usual S/B/R routine, you can easily do a "halfsies" rotation - the strength workouts are all structured in such a way to make them really easy to split in 1/2. You'll still get in a great workout, but in 1/2 the time.

Another option is to look into the X+ series - another series by Tony, very P90X in feel, but more "functional" - the strength workouts remind me a lot of CoreSyn in the original X. TotalBody+ is one of the best full body strength workouts for athletes, in my opinion! You can schedule TotalBody+ 2x/week fairly easily with s/b/r (at least in my experience), or structure a lot of fun rotations using a combination of the X and X+ workouts.

Hopefully this hasn't been mentioned already! Feel free to ping me with questions - I'm multi-year X-veteran, and a BeachBody coach.
2009-11-10 7:40 AM
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well mspina and delosh I am with you all the way.  Even Tony says to "modify" .  This program like any other works best when we make it work around what we want to accomplish.  Too many of us get tied up in the "it says I have to do xxx" now what do I do?"  Being an old guy I have come to the conclusion that

A)  I do this for health

B)  I do this for fun

C)  Since no one is paying me I do it for fun

Will I ever be the fastest, strongest, etc...Nope,  but I will be the smiliest....



2009-11-10 9:25 AM
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Michelle is awesome and helping me right now! From what I have seen at beachbody there are many different combinations of workouts or hybrids using P90,P90x,P90x+,Insanity, Chalean. I will be doing a P90x-+ mix when I finish my first round, I also plan to do Insanity soon. Right now Im starting week 5 Phase 2.
2009-11-10 10:05 AM
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saling4 - 2009-11-10 8:40 AM

Will I ever be the fastest, strongest, etc...Nope,  but I will be the smiliest....



"The smiliest" - LOVE that!!!!!
2009-11-10 3:23 PM
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I put that because I was grumbling on here about my times not getting any faster.  One of the BTer's remembered me at the Tri and said I might be faster if I didn't stop and chat with everyone and It couldn't be too bad since I was smiling the whole time.  I made a decision at that point that I could be faster or just enjoy it and I decided to enjoy it and be smilier.

 

P.S.  I know that word doesn't exist but it does for me...

2009-11-28 6:56 AM
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Week 10 started, getting close to the finish line.  A couple more weeks of really hitting it and I will be good.....time to start over? 
2009-11-28 11:49 AM
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kwc98 - 2009-11-28 4:56 AM

Week 10 started, getting close to the finish line.  A couple more weeks of really hitting it and I will be good.....time to start over? 


Take a week and decide where you are going from here. More weight, more reps...more Tri stuff, better diet, etc.. Then get back to it. Great job getting through it as well.


2009-12-22 5:38 PM
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Hello there. I am considering purchasing P90X in a few days. I just got done with an IM about a month ago and really miss the workouts. I also start Marathon training in early January so I thought P90X would be a great addition to that. Does anyone have any ideas of how to integrate the two together. I was thinking of doing all the weight programs and maybe substituting running on the cardio days. Or maybe doing it all for the first few weeks of the marathon training, and when the run hours start to build up cut back on the P90X cardio but still keep the weigh programs. Any ideas would be helpful------ thanks
2009-12-22 7:12 PM
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I would sub the cardio for the Marathon runs. You might want to keep the Plyo in for a while since it is pretty cool.
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drw94 - 2009-12-22 6:38 PM Hello there. I am considering purchasing P90X in a few days. I just got done with an IM about a month ago and really miss the workouts. I also start Marathon training in early January so I thought P90X would be a great addition to that. Does anyone have any ideas of how to integrate the two together. I was thinking of doing all the weight programs and maybe substituting running on the cardio days. Or maybe doing it all for the first few weeks of the marathon training, and when the run hours start to build up cut back on the P90X cardio but still keep the weigh programs. Any ideas would be helpful------ thanks


I find it MUCH easier to keep up with the X when just run training - this is very doable. The structure of the X is as follows (assuming a start day of Monday):

Monday: UB split 1
Tuesday: Plyo
Wednesday: UB split 2
Thursday: Yoga
Friday: Legs & Back
Saturday: Kenpo (steady state cardio)
Sunday: rest day

If you have the time, doing the doubles rotation works well (I did this for my second X round) - you do a 2nd workout on your lifting days, so, say, in the AM you'd do your X workout, and in the PM you'd do a mid-week run. Dump Kenpo altogether and do you your long run in it's place - that's totally a no-brainer. I'd second the suggestion to keep Plyo in the mix - it's a GREAT workout and I found personally that it really helped my running. How would you feel about a 3x/week run schedule? Something like:

Monday: UB split 1 / run
Tuesday: Plyo
Wednesday: UB split 2 / run
Thursday: Yoga
Friday: Legs & Back
Saturday: Long run
Sunday: rest

You could add a 4th run on Friday as long as you kept it a recovery pace, I think. You might also have to monkey with the schedule a little bit if you find that Legs & Back is impacting your long run the next day. The legwork in the X is NOT heavy weight, so you might be just fine, but people react differently to that workout - some get sore, others don't.

If you don't like the idea of doubles, you could alternatively drop all of the non-strength workouts and run in their place on the schedule. Nothing is set in stone - while I love the structure of the X as it's laid out, it's very adaptable. As previously mentioned in this thread (I think it was this thread!), you can also get a GREAT workout doing the X strength workouts as "halfsies" - they are all laid out such that it's trivial to cut the workout in half while still getting in a very thorough, balanced workout.

If you haven't previously ordered through Beachbody and don't have a coach there, I'd be happy to work with you. Buying through a coach gets you cheaper shipping (same cost for the programs) and an assigned Beachbody "expert" to help you through the program if you need anything along the way. I've done multiple rounds of the X myself - it's actually my favorite program. If you are interested, my Beachbody website is in my signature link.

2009-12-24 12:59 PM
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Sorry I order P90X last night, right before I looked on BT. My run program is the Marathon program on this sight, and it has me running 6 days a week. You also wrote in your reply UB split1 and UB split 2. What are those? I am used to doing double and even triple workouts a day on certain days. My plan is to do both programs 100% in the beginning and then removing items from P90X as it starts to impact my running. I know I will have to cut out certain parts of P90X as I start running more and will look back at your suggestions so I want to make sure I understand them completely. What is the cost of a coach if I may ask?

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2009-12-27 9:42 AM
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drw94 - 2009-12-24 12:59 PM Sorry I order P90X last night, right before I looked on BT. My run program is the Marathon program on this sight, and it has me running 6 days a week. You also wrote in your reply UB split1 and UB split 2. What are those? I am used to doing double and even triple workouts a day on certain days. My plan is to do both programs 100% in the beginning and then removing items from P90X as it starts to impact my running. I know I will have to cut out certain parts of P90X as I start running more and will look back at your suggestions so I want to make sure I understand them completely. What is the cost of a coach if I may ask? Thanks Don


UB= upper back


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kwc98 - 2009-12-27 9:42 AM
drw94 - 2009-12-24 12:59 PM Sorry I order P90X last night, right before I looked on BT. My run program is the Marathon program on this sight, and it has me running 6 days a week. You also wrote in your reply UB split1 and UB split 2. What are those? I am used to doing double and even triple workouts a day on certain days. My plan is to do both programs 100% in the beginning and then removing items from P90X as it starts to impact my running. I know I will have to cut out certain parts of P90X as I start running more and will look back at your suggestions so I want to make sure I understand them completely. What is the cost of a coach if I may ask? Thanks Don


UB= upper back



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2009-12-28 8:53 AM
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Mspina,

Hey, what are your thoughts on incorporating P90x and/or x plus into tri training? I am in Phase 3 of P90x now and I LOVE the program and the results. I have been able to do about 3 runs per week as you set out in your post. But, I have been toying with what to do once tri season picks back up. I guess I need to swim and bike again at some point. :-)

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2009-12-28 9:30 AM
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Don,

Sorry I didn't catch you earlier. No worries. If you order through a coach, their services are free! If you didn't get a coach assigned to you (how did you order, if you don't mind me asking? That will help me know whether or not you got a coach already), feel free to go to my website and sign up for the Team Beachbody Club (select the free option!), you'll be assigned to me and I'll be able to help you out with any future orders or questions you may have, and I'll keep you posted about any upcoming offers, etc.

UB == Upper Body. There are a few different UB split workouts in the X.

2009-12-28 6:27 PM
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Yikes I just found this thread. I am on day 5 - are we starting a challenge thread?
2009-12-30 11:29 AM
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I'm up for a challenge if someone is setting one up.


2009-12-31 5:37 AM
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Any tips for the yoga dvd?  I got it for Christmas and am doing the classic plan.  Tuesday I attempted yoga at 5am and my body was just not having it.  I am planning on replacing that day with a run so I can keep doing something before my kids are up in the morning.  Do you think I would have a better chance with the yoga later in the day when my body is loosened up?
2009-12-31 6:33 AM
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goodday2tri - 2009-12-28 9:53 AM Mspina, Hey, what are your thoughts on incorporating P90x and/or x plus into tri training? I am in Phase 3 of P90x now and I LOVE the program and the results. I have been able to do about 3 runs per week as you set out in your post. But, I have been toying with what to do once tri season picks back up. I guess I need to swim and bike again at some point. :-) Thanks!


I personally prefer the X+ workouts for tri season strength training. They are more like CoreSyn in that they are more "functional" rather than isolated lifting, which I think creates more core strength. They are also a bit more time efficient - TotalBody+ is about 45 minutes long and it's a GREAT full body workout. That said, I know a lot of folks keep doing the X during tri season - just less often, and they pick and choose the workouts that fit best in their schedule.
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Mrschach - 2009-12-31 6:37 AM Any tips for the yoga dvd?  I got it for Christmas and am doing the classic plan.  Tuesday I attempted yoga at 5am and my body was just not having it.  I am planning on replacing that day with a run so I can keep doing something before my kids are up in the morning.  Do you think I would have a better chance with the yoga later in the day when my body is loosened up?


Have you done yoga in the past? What about it wasn't working for you specifically? It may be that you are new to yoga and it'll take some time to really get used to this style of training. YogaX is HARD! Don't expect that you'll be able to do all the moves perfectly throughout the entire workout - it may take a few weeks+ to work up to being able to feel comfortable with this workout. And even then, you'll be working hard and sweating buckets.

If you feel like you are just too stiff in the morning to EVER warm up into the workout, you could perhaps do a warm-up from one of the strength workouts to get the blood flowing, or try doing YogaX in the afternoon as you suggest.
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mspina - 2009-12-31 6:37 AM
Mrschach - 2009-12-31 6:37 AM Any tips for the yoga dvd?  I got it for Christmas and am doing the classic plan.  Tuesday I attempted yoga at 5am and my body was just not having it.  I am planning on replacing that day with a run so I can keep doing something before my kids are up in the morning.  Do you think I would have a better chance with the yoga later in the day when my body is loosened up?


Have you done yoga in the past? What about it wasn't working for you specifically? It may be that you are new to yoga and it'll take some time to really get used to this style of training. YogaX is HARD! Don't expect that you'll be able to do all the moves perfectly throughout the entire workout - it may take a few weeks+ to work up to being able to feel comfortable with this workout. And even then, you'll be working hard and sweating buckets.

If you feel like you are just too stiff in the morning to EVER warm up into the workout, you could perhaps do a warm-up from one of the strength workouts to get the blood flowing, or try doing YogaX in the afternoon as you suggest.


I have never done yoga before.  I did not expect it to be an easy workout though.  For example, you know when you are standing and just kinda hanging down to stretch.  OMG, my back was so stiff, I could not even flatten my back.  When I did it last night at dinnertime to show my husband what I was talking about, I felt fine doing it.  I am going to give it a try tonight after the kids are in bed and see how it is.  I hope that is all and I have to adjust the time of day for that one.
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