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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DHDHDHDHDHDHDHDH! DH is running 100 friggin miles tomorrow! If 10 miles is equivelant to what, 4 beers? That's like 40 beers! ![]() Edited by kevinbe 2012-09-06 11:05 PM |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Well, Darren should be off and running now...hopefully finishing less then 30 hours from now! Wow basically running 4 marathons... A marathon race...i was thinking more along the lines of a 5k. Portland, Or is my choice as they have a ton of a)breweries and b)food trucks, er, um, that serve all healthy foods, nothing deep fried or fatty!! Really! Sorry Kevin, if we are running in a group, no smoke fish allowed on course! There is a race in Victoria, BC that you have to drink a beer after each lap....I think it is 4 laps, not sure of the distance. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() thor67 - 2012-09-07 9:49 AM Wish we could track D on the road. Daaaayyuuuum 100 miles...I rode my bike that far once and that was hard enough. Ashland OR has my favorite beer ever, chocolate coconut! Like Christmas in your mouth!...Well calculus homework is done and now I am off on my 9 hour drive to San Diego! Thanks for the great support guys!Well, Darren should be off and running now...hopefully finishing less then 30 hours from now! Wow basically running 4 marathons... A marathon race...i was thinking more along the lines of a 5k. Portland, Or is my choice as they have a ton of a)breweries and b)food trucks, er, um, that serve all healthy foods, nothing deep fried or fatty!! Really! Sorry Kevin, if we are running in a group, no smoke fish allowed on course! There is a race in Victoria, BC that you have to drink a beer after each lap....I think it is 4 laps, not sure of the distance. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Qua17 - 2012-09-06 8:40 PM SportzVision - 2012-09-05 11:51 PM Hey boys...just wanted to pop in and say thanks for all the motivation...I use to have Coach Helga in my head trying to push me..but now I hear you all telling me to, "Keep going or its Coors for you gal!" Goals for Sunday's race:
Stopping by the Malibu Triathalon the following Sunday to hopefully get a glimpse of Chrissy. Then maybe one more sprint and start adding the strength training. But for now one thing at a time...race this weekend. Cynthia Cynthia - with your plan and all the amazing progress you have made - there's no way you'll be drinking warm coors in the parking lot. I think you should get to enjoy one beer of your choosing for each goal you break. Good luck and god speed! Please share your nutrition plan - I'd love to hear it as I'm trying to fine tune my own eating plan! My nutrition plan for this race: I race at 6:48 am Lunch on Saturday a huge deli veggie sandwich, eaten long and slow. Saturday night -small bowl of pasta and some water. Gotta be careful bc of new meds causing all kinds of tummy issues. Sunday Morning 4:15 am 1 serving of old fashion oatmeal w/banana and walnuts and two slices of toast 5-6:00 am sip water 16oz 6:00 start sipping on a Recovery Rockstar - for the caffeine and elctrolytes 6:30 gu Last year I had this minus the toast and one gu after the swim and that was it...total bonk on the bike and complete walk on the run. After swim 3 blocks On the bike the rest of the blocks 20 mins in and a gu after another 20-25 mins. Also 32-40oz of water and G2. Run - Finish remaining G2 and every 25 mins a gu mixed with water. I got this plan from the Oct. 2011 triathlete magazine. Last year it was two weeks after my race when I read the article, a little late. There is a timeline on it and I only consumed 1/3 of the recommended amount of fuel. Lesson learned. Thanks for all the support! Cynthia |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() SportzVision - 2012-09-07 9:19 AM thor67 - 2012-09-07 9:49 AM Wish we could track D on the road. Daaaayyuuuum 100 miles...I rode my bike that far once and that was hard enough. Ashland OR has my favorite beer ever, chocolate coconut! Like Christmas in your mouth!...Well calculus homework is done and now I am off on my 9 hour drive to San Diego! Thanks for the great support guys!Well, Darren should be off and running now...hopefully finishing less then 30 hours from now! Wow basically running 4 marathons... A marathon race...i was thinking more along the lines of a 5k. Portland, Or is my choice as they have a ton of a)breweries and b)food trucks, er, um, that serve all healthy foods, nothing deep fried or fatty!! Really! Sorry Kevin, if we are running in a group, no smoke fish allowed on course! There is a race in Victoria, BC that you have to drink a beer after each lap....I think it is 4 laps, not sure of the distance. You can track Darren here: http://racepro.ca/results3.php?id=52 last name: hamilton Bib#: 18 |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() thor67 - 2012-09-07 11:31 AM SportzVision - 2012-09-07 9:19 AM thor67 - 2012-09-07 9:49 AM Wish we could track D on the road. Daaaayyuuuum 100 miles...I rode my bike that far once and that was hard enough. Ashland OR has my favorite beer ever, chocolate coconut! Like Christmas in your mouth!...Well calculus homework is done and now I am off on my 9 hour drive to San Diego! Thanks for the great support guys!Well, Darren should be off and running now...hopefully finishing less then 30 hours from now! Wow basically running 4 marathons... A marathon race...i was thinking more along the lines of a 5k. Portland, Or is my choice as they have a ton of a)breweries and b)food trucks, er, um, that serve all healthy foods, nothing deep fried or fatty!! Really! Sorry Kevin, if we are running in a group, no smoke fish allowed on course! There is a race in Victoria, BC that you have to drink a beer after each lap....I think it is 4 laps, not sure of the distance. You can track Darren here: http://racepro.ca/results3.php?id=52 last name: hamilton Bib#: 18 Thanks for posting the link! Proud to see our boy up there... My first beer tonight is in his honor! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Looks like Darren is still on track 24 hours into the race! I think he has completed 2 laps and is on his third and final lap(53.7km laps I think, 33miles??) Off to hockey evaluations for my son, on ice running the drills for 3 sessions today and tomorrow...with 75 or so 9-10 yr olds! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() thor67 - 2012-09-08 7:11 AM Looks like Darren is still on track 24 hours into the race! I think he has completed 2 laps and is on his third and final lap(53.7km laps I think, 33miles??) Off to hockey evaluations for my son, on ice running the drills for 3 sessions today and tomorrow...with 75 or so 9-10 yr olds! OUCH! What an animal. At 24 hrs in, he still has over a marathon to run. That is easily the biggest physical feat I've ever seen someone I know tackle. He's running 100 miles. Can't wait for the race results! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kevinbe - 2012-09-06 11:01 PM Qua17 - 2012-09-06 7:05 PM First and foremost good luck to Cynthia and Darren on their races this weekend! Second - I was able to get my long swim and sun in today. The swim was decent - my biggest problem was the woman who kept running into me. Drove me nuts because I kept having to pop my head out of the water to make sure our heads didn't collide. I got pi$$ed when she actually stopped to put on her flippers WHILE STANDING IN MY LANE! The run was good. I ran to our local school to vote in our primary election and ended up sweating all over the registration table - the old ladies were really grossed out... Then I ran around town and finally ended up on the cross country paths where I did most of my run... I was supposed to go for 9 - but I felt decent and so I pushed it to 10. (finished at 10.66) The only thing that was sore was my left knee which felt a little better once I stretched. I agree that I'm probably pushing the running milage too much... but running long is helping me to learn what I need to improve for race day. The eating is getting better. I took your advice and poped some gels - and I also enjoyed a Gu block. Where I need to work is my drinking. I am not drinking enough. I have probably drunk 40 oz of water since getting home 4 hours ago and still haven't peed....Might have to imbibe some beers to rehydrate. Next week, I'm going to go out on some 1 hour training runs and try to calculate my sweat rate. I think I'm losing somewhere between 20 and 30 oz of water per hour... Gonna sleep well tonight - but not as well as DH will sleep I bet... This is a good post! I love it when you come on here with quality material such as this. I get super hyper-sensitive during pool workouts and colliding w/ others. I one time looked up at the other end of the pool to see that a woman had joined my lane w/o announcing herself. I had no idea how long she'd been swimming in my lane as I was doing long sets and had been swimming for a half hour at that point. I have no idea how many times I almost collided with her, but I was shell shocked for the rest of the workout. Sounds as if there's no pain during the run. Limited soreness after the run. I'd say your in good shape. To hydrate for all my runs over 9 miles, I carry up to 70oz. cammelback and drink a good sip or two each mile. less water for shorter runs, more water for longer runs. I've also heard of stashing bottles along the course, but that always seems to time consuming for me. Beer should help in this matter of hydration your having. Stay Thirsty I like the idea of the camelback and would love to get one sometime in the future. It just seems like I'm leaking money in order to do this sport... I love it so I really don't mind spending the money but it adds up. Just this month, I've bought gatorade, protein and carb bars, gu, an extra ice pack, 2 tubes, a water bottle, not to mention the race fees... Oh, and then there is the beer that I'm doing it all for. So for now, I'll continue to run loops on the cross country course by my house and stash a couple of water bottles along the way. It will be interesting next week to see how much I'm actually sweating... I think it's more than 20 oz an hour... On the other side of that coin is over hydration (there was a great article on it in this month's runners world), so I really want to spend the next couple weeks figuring it out. So, you like my posts huh? Good thing. I tell my wife this stuff and while she is willing to listen, she isn't on the same wave length. When I told Heidi how ticked I'd gotten at the women who refused to get out of my way and just stood there - my wife said, "oh, that's too bad honey". So it's nice to be able to share with people who get it and have been there and done that... |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() SportzVision - 2012-09-07 10:37 AM Qua17 - 2012-09-06 8:40 PM SportzVision - 2012-09-05 11:51 PM Hey boys...just wanted to pop in and say thanks for all the motivation...I use to have Coach Helga in my head trying to push me..but now I hear you all telling me to, "Keep going or its Coors for you gal!" Goals for Sunday's race:
Stopping by the Malibu Triathalon the following Sunday to hopefully get a glimpse of Chrissy. Then maybe one more sprint and start adding the strength training. But for now one thing at a time...race this weekend. Cynthia Cynthia - with your plan and all the amazing progress you have made - there's no way you'll be drinking warm coors in the parking lot. I think you should get to enjoy one beer of your choosing for each goal you break. Good luck and god speed! Please share your nutrition plan - I'd love to hear it as I'm trying to fine tune my own eating plan! My nutrition plan for this race: I race at 6:48 am Lunch on Saturday a huge deli veggie sandwich, eaten long and slow. Saturday night -small bowl of pasta and some water. Gotta be careful bc of new meds causing all kinds of tummy issues. Sunday Morning 4:15 am 1 serving of old fashion oatmeal w/banana and walnuts and two slices of toast 5-6:00 am sip water 16oz 6:00 start sipping on a Recovery Rockstar - for the caffeine and elctrolytes 6:30 gu Last year I had this minus the toast and one gu after the swim and that was it...total bonk on the bike and complete walk on the run. After swim 3 blocks On the bike the rest of the blocks 20 mins in and a gu after another 20-25 mins. Also 32-40oz of water and G2. Run - Finish remaining G2 and every 25 mins a gu mixed with water. I got this plan from the Oct. 2011 triathlete magazine. Last year it was two weeks after my race when I read the article, a little late. There is a timeline on it and I only consumed 1/3 of the recommended amount of fuel. Lesson learned. Thanks for all the support! Cynthia Cynthia - First and foremost: GOOD LUCK TOMORROW! All that work and thought is gonna pay off big tomorrow. You might not even need a warm coors to motivate you Thanks for sharing the plan. From what I've been reading, it looks like you are sticking to the 200-300 calorie per hour rule... That's what I'm shooting for as well. Do you love the clif blocks? I really have been getting into them lately. The orange ones are my personal fav. Just wanted to ask - is there a reason why you do blocks early in the race but not later in the race as well? Instead it looks like you are relying on Gu to get you to the finish line. Also, are you hoping to avoid the tummy issues by not having any bars during the race? Lastly, love the fact that you start your nutrition plan the day and not just the night before. I'm really gonna try to begin to eat for my HIM a couple of days before the race so I don't hit the wall as you did last year. Good luck tomorrow! Kick some A$$! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kevinbe - 2012-09-08 11:03 AM thor67 - 2012-09-08 7:11 AM Looks like Darren is still on track 24 hours into the race! I think he has completed 2 laps and is on his third and final lap(53.7km laps I think, 33miles??) Off to hockey evaluations for my son, on ice running the drills for 3 sessions today and tomorrow...with 75 or so 9-10 yr olds! OUCH! What an animal. At 24 hrs in, he still has over a marathon to run. That is easily the biggest physical feat I've ever seen someone I know tackle. He's running 100 miles. Can't wait for the race results! Darren = Stud... Gotta be getting close... Sending good vibes your way! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Qua17 - 2012-09-08 9:44 AM kevinbe - 2012-09-06 11:01 PM Qua17 - 2012-09-06 7:05 PM First and foremost good luck to Cynthia and Darren on their races this weekend! Second - I was able to get my long swim and sun in today. The swim was decent - my biggest problem was the woman who kept running into me. Drove me nuts because I kept having to pop my head out of the water to make sure our heads didn't collide. I got pi$$ed when she actually stopped to put on her flippers WHILE STANDING IN MY LANE! The run was good. I ran to our local school to vote in our primary election and ended up sweating all over the registration table - the old ladies were really grossed out... Then I ran around town and finally ended up on the cross country paths where I did most of my run... I was supposed to go for 9 - but I felt decent and so I pushed it to 10. (finished at 10.66) The only thing that was sore was my left knee which felt a little better once I stretched. I agree that I'm probably pushing the running milage too much... but running long is helping me to learn what I need to improve for race day. The eating is getting better. I took your advice and poped some gels - and I also enjoyed a Gu block. Where I need to work is my drinking. I am not drinking enough. I have probably drunk 40 oz of water since getting home 4 hours ago and still haven't peed....Might have to imbibe some beers to rehydrate. Next week, I'm going to go out on some 1 hour training runs and try to calculate my sweat rate. I think I'm losing somewhere between 20 and 30 oz of water per hour... Gonna sleep well tonight - but not as well as DH will sleep I bet... This is a good post! I love it when you come on here with quality material such as this. I get super hyper-sensitive during pool workouts and colliding w/ others. I one time looked up at the other end of the pool to see that a woman had joined my lane w/o announcing herself. I had no idea how long she'd been swimming in my lane as I was doing long sets and had been swimming for a half hour at that point. I have no idea how many times I almost collided with her, but I was shell shocked for the rest of the workout. Sounds as if there's no pain during the run. Limited soreness after the run. I'd say your in good shape. To hydrate for all my runs over 9 miles, I carry up to 70oz. cammelback and drink a good sip or two each mile. less water for shorter runs, more water for longer runs. I've also heard of stashing bottles along the course, but that always seems to time consuming for me. Beer should help in this matter of hydration your having. Stay Thirsty I like the idea of the camelback and would love to get one sometime in the future. It just seems like I'm leaking money in order to do this sport... I love it so I really don't mind spending the money but it adds up. Just this month, I've bought gatorade, protein and carb bars, gu, an extra ice pack, 2 tubes, a water bottle, not to mention the race fees... Oh, and then there is the beer that I'm doing it all for. So for now, I'll continue to run loops on the cross country course by my house and stash a couple of water bottles along the way. It will be interesting next week to see how much I'm actually sweating... I think it's more than 20 oz an hour... On the other side of that coin is over hydration (there was a great article on it in this month's runners world), so I really want to spend the next couple weeks figuring it out. So, you like my posts huh? Good thing. I tell my wife this stuff and while she is willing to listen, she isn't on the same wave length. When I told Heidi how ticked I'd gotten at the women who refused to get out of my way and just stood there - my wife said, "oh, that's too bad honey". So it's nice to be able to share with people who get it and have been there and done that... I hear you on the money front. Something like this doesn't look as cool, but it saves you about 50% on an official Cammelback. http://nextadventure.net/high-sierra-wave-70-hydration-pack.html?gclid=CPf23JnNprICFQWCQgod5xgArw I bought mine at a local Costco, and it was about the same price for the delux model with several pockets and all. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks Kevin for the suggestion. I'll check it out... OK - so Thor called it... In an attempt to be more like DH, I pushed it on my long run on Thursday. Felt decent that evening. Ok yesterday... By mile 15 of today's - my hip was aching. I hemmed and hawed about going the full 45 and then running 2 but I decided to shut it down after 30. I've iced and stretched... and its now a dull ache. I don't think I've hurt anything but I'm thinking about only swimming tomorrow and passing on the 3 miles I had planned. Question - as I make my plan for next week, should I A) Run the same amount as I did last week assuming I'm stronger now, B) Run less (say 9 miles instead of 11), C) Decrease the long run significantly and add milage to my shorter runs, D) Decrease my milage and focus on brick workouts. Last - Good luck Cynthia! I'm dying to hear about DH... |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Qua17 - 2012-09-08 6:46 PM Looking at your logs, You have 2 more weeks to build, then take a week of dramatically less volume (taper wk1), then your final taper week which is essentially 3-4 workouts of about 15 min in all 3 at minimum effort going into your HIM. Thanks Kevin for the suggestion. I'll check it out... OK - so Thor called it... In an attempt to be more like DH, I pushed it on my long run on Thursday. Felt decent that evening. Ok yesterday... By mile 15 of today's - my hip was aching. I hemmed and hawed about going the full 45 and then running 2 but I decided to shut it down after 30. I've iced and stretched... and its now a dull ache. I don't think I've hurt anything but I'm thinking about only swimming tomorrow and passing on the 3 miles I had planned. Question - as I make my plan for next week, should I A) Run the same amount as I did last week assuming I'm stronger now, B) Run less (say 9 miles instead of 11), C) Decrease the long run significantly and add milage to my shorter runs, D) Decrease my milage and focus on brick workouts. Last - Good luck Cynthia! I'm dying to hear about DH... If time were on our side, I would recommend resting next week. If your in pain, rest. If your sore, with the hand you have, I would say A) run the same amounts, or increase by 10% in your runs, and a bit more in your bike/swim workouts. You have 2 more weeks to build volume. dial down the intensity so you do not injure yourself. Get used to going 10 miles at a slower pace. Get used to swimming 2000 yds in a pool or lake. You bit off a gargantuant bite here, and this may be the biggest feet out of all of us. You had the ride volume down, but to go from no run to running 13.1 on top of the other 2 events is huge. Godspeed my friend. Do not kill yourself, but if it aint broke, get out there and train. Take a few weeks of lower volume before the race. If I were in your shoes, this is what I would do. Please take with a grain of salt if it sounds like bad advice. We do not want to have hip pain or pain in the foot. We know those things take time to get over, that's why I'm suggesting high volume w/ low intensity due to the extreme closeness of your event. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kevinbe - 2012-09-08 9:41 PM Qua17 - 2012-09-08 6:46 PM Looking at your logs, You have 2 more weeks to build, then take a week of dramatically less volume (taper wk1), then your final taper week which is essentially 3-4 workouts of about 15 min in all 3 at minimum effort going into your HIM. Thanks Kevin for the suggestion. I'll check it out... OK - so Thor called it... In an attempt to be more like DH, I pushed it on my long run on Thursday. Felt decent that evening. Ok yesterday... By mile 15 of today's - my hip was aching. I hemmed and hawed about going the full 45 and then running 2 but I decided to shut it down after 30. I've iced and stretched... and its now a dull ache. I don't think I've hurt anything but I'm thinking about only swimming tomorrow and passing on the 3 miles I had planned. Question - as I make my plan for next week, should I A) Run the same amount as I did last week assuming I'm stronger now, B) Run less (say 9 miles instead of 11), C) Decrease the long run significantly and add milage to my shorter runs, D) Decrease my milage and focus on brick workouts. Last - Good luck Cynthia! I'm dying to hear about DH... If time were on our side, I would recommend resting next week. If your in pain, rest. If your sore, with the hand you have, I would say A) run the same amounts, or increase by 10% in your runs, and a bit more in your bike/swim workouts. You have 2 more weeks to build volume. dial down the intensity so you do not injure yourself. Get used to going 10 miles at a slower pace. Get used to swimming 2000 yds in a pool or lake. You bit off a gargantuant bite here, and this may be the biggest feet out of all of us. Agreed - it was a big jump but it pales in comparison to DH's century. Just want to give credit where credit is due. You had the ride volume down, but to go from no run to running 13.1 on top of the other 2 events is huge. Godspeed my friend. Do not kill yourself, but if it aint broke, get out there and train. Take a few weeks of lower volume before the race. If I were in your shoes, this is what I would do. Please take with a grain of salt if it sounds like bad advice. We do not want to have hip pain or pain in the foot. We know those things take time to get over, that's why I'm suggesting high volume w/ low intensity due to the extreme closeness of your event. Totally agree with you about the need to SLOW DOWN. Yesterday, I actually listened to my body and stopped when I felt pain but intentionally going slow is not in my makeup. Sound familiar? So slowing down is a good idea. I guess I'll need to fire up my garmin and set the alarm for speed. I woke up this morning to the familiar ache in my hips and knees. So I will skip my run today and ice and advil. Based upon when friends come over for football, I might even skip the swim but we will see. I'm smoking another pork shoulder so I won't be losing any weight today. Next week, I will play it by ear in terms of distance. I am gonna err on the side of caution because I would rather make it to the line less prepared than not make it to the line... I will make it happen. I might also skip a short run so I can get my long run in... Question - which would be better: to skip a short run or decrease the distance on the long run. My vote would be decreasing the distance because I think I'm doing more damage when I go long. Yesterday was DH's day. Today, thoughts are going out to Cynthia who is kicking a$$ and taking names on the bike as I write this. I hope your nutrition plan is doing you right. No warm coors for you! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Qua17 - 2012-09-09 7:52 AM kevinbe - 2012-09-08 9:41 PM Qua17 - 2012-09-08 6:46 PM Looking at your logs, You have 2 more weeks to build, then take a week of dramatically less volume (taper wk1), then your final taper week which is essentially 3-4 workouts of about 15 min in all 3 at minimum effort going into your HIM. Thanks Kevin for the suggestion. I'll check it out... OK - so Thor called it... In an attempt to be more like DH, I pushed it on my long run on Thursday. Felt decent that evening. Ok yesterday... By mile 15 of today's - my hip was aching. I hemmed and hawed about going the full 45 and then running 2 but I decided to shut it down after 30. I've iced and stretched... and its now a dull ache. I don't think I've hurt anything but I'm thinking about only swimming tomorrow and passing on the 3 miles I had planned. Question - as I make my plan for next week, should I A) Run the same amount as I did last week assuming I'm stronger now, B) Run less (say 9 miles instead of 11), C) Decrease the long run significantly and add milage to my shorter runs, D) Decrease my milage and focus on brick workouts. Last - Good luck Cynthia! I'm dying to hear about DH... If time were on our side, I would recommend resting next week. If your in pain, rest. If your sore, with the hand you have, I would say A) run the same amounts, or increase by 10% in your runs, and a bit more in your bike/swim workouts. You have 2 more weeks to build volume. dial down the intensity so you do not injure yourself. Get used to going 10 miles at a slower pace. Get used to swimming 2000 yds in a pool or lake. You bit off a gargantuant bite here, and this may be the biggest feet out of all of us. Agreed - it was a big jump but it pales in comparison to DH's century. Just want to give credit where credit is due. You had the ride volume down, but to go from no run to running 13.1 on top of the other 2 events is huge. Godspeed my friend. Do not kill yourself, but if it aint broke, get out there and train. Take a few weeks of lower volume before the race. If I were in your shoes, this is what I would do. Please take with a grain of salt if it sounds like bad advice. We do not want to have hip pain or pain in the foot. We know those things take time to get over, that's why I'm suggesting high volume w/ low intensity due to the extreme closeness of your event. Totally agree with you about the need to SLOW DOWN. Yesterday, I actually listened to my body and stopped when I felt pain but intentionally going slow is not in my makeup. Sound familiar? So slowing down is a good idea. I guess I'll need to fire up my garmin and set the alarm for speed. I woke up this morning to the familiar ache in my hips and knees. So I will skip my run today and ice and advil. Based upon when friends come over for football, I might even skip the swim but we will see. I'm smoking another pork shoulder so I won't be losing any weight today. Next week, I will play it by ear in terms of distance. I am gonna err on the side of caution because I would rather make it to the line less prepared than not make it to the line... I will make it happen. I might also skip a short run so I can get my long run in... Question - which would be better: to skip a short run or decrease the distance on the long run. My vote would be decreasing the distance because I think I'm doing more damage when I go long. Yesterday was DH's day. Today, thoughts are going out to Cynthia who is kicking a$$ and taking names on the bike as I write this. I hope your nutrition plan is doing you right. No warm coors for you! Well if you are feeling okay, I would increase your short runs by a mile or so(Whatever you are comfortable with0 and decrease your long run. Try get your short runs up a bit and lower your long runs. With such a short time before the race you do not have the base to jack up the runs. I think the 9+ mile runs will hurt you more then help you. You are in damage control mode for the run as you probably do not have the base to be ramping up so drastically. Can you do the run...absolutely! It probably won't be fast but you can and WILL do the run. Also get your in the pool today, especially with the bbq/beers(plus the beers you had last night!!) Last I seen Darren was around 20+ hours.... Have a great Sunday everyone! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() thor67 - 2012-09-09 7:29 AM Qua17 - 2012-09-09 7:52 AM kevinbe - 2012-09-08 9:41 PM Qua17 - 2012-09-08 6:46 PM Looking at your logs, You have 2 more weeks to build, then take a week of dramatically less volume (taper wk1), then your final taper week which is essentially 3-4 workouts of about 15 min in all 3 at minimum effort going into your HIM. Thanks Kevin for the suggestion. I'll check it out... OK - so Thor called it... In an attempt to be more like DH, I pushed it on my long run on Thursday. Felt decent that evening. Ok yesterday... By mile 15 of today's - my hip was aching. I hemmed and hawed about going the full 45 and then running 2 but I decided to shut it down after 30. I've iced and stretched... and its now a dull ache. I don't think I've hurt anything but I'm thinking about only swimming tomorrow and passing on the 3 miles I had planned. Question - as I make my plan for next week, should I A) Run the same amount as I did last week assuming I'm stronger now, B) Run less (say 9 miles instead of 11), C) Decrease the long run significantly and add milage to my shorter runs, D) Decrease my milage and focus on brick workouts. Last - Good luck Cynthia! I'm dying to hear about DH... If time were on our side, I would recommend resting next week. If your in pain, rest. If your sore, with the hand you have, I would say A) run the same amounts, or increase by 10% in your runs, and a bit more in your bike/swim workouts. You have 2 more weeks to build volume. dial down the intensity so you do not injure yourself. Get used to going 10 miles at a slower pace. Get used to swimming 2000 yds in a pool or lake. You bit off a gargantuant bite here, and this may be the biggest feet out of all of us. Agreed - it was a big jump but it pales in comparison to DH's century. Just want to give credit where credit is due. You had the ride volume down, but to go from no run to running 13.1 on top of the other 2 events is huge. Godspeed my friend. Do not kill yourself, but if it aint broke, get out there and train. Take a few weeks of lower volume before the race. If I were in your shoes, this is what I would do. Please take with a grain of salt if it sounds like bad advice. We do not want to have hip pain or pain in the foot. We know those things take time to get over, that's why I'm suggesting high volume w/ low intensity due to the extreme closeness of your event. Totally agree with you about the need to SLOW DOWN. Yesterday, I actually listened to my body and stopped when I felt pain but intentionally going slow is not in my makeup. Sound familiar? So slowing down is a good idea. I guess I'll need to fire up my garmin and set the alarm for speed. I woke up this morning to the familiar ache in my hips and knees. So I will skip my run today and ice and advil. Based upon when friends come over for football, I might even skip the swim but we will see. I'm smoking another pork shoulder so I won't be losing any weight today. Next week, I will play it by ear in terms of distance. I am gonna err on the side of caution because I would rather make it to the line less prepared than not make it to the line... I will make it happen. I might also skip a short run so I can get my long run in... Question - which would be better: to skip a short run or decrease the distance on the long run. My vote would be decreasing the distance because I think I'm doing more damage when I go long. Yesterday was DH's day. Today, thoughts are going out to Cynthia who is kicking a$$ and taking names on the bike as I write this. I hope your nutrition plan is doing you right. No warm coors for you! Well if you are feeling okay, I would increase your short runs by a mile or so(Whatever you are comfortable with0 and decrease your long run. Try get your short runs up a bit and lower your long runs. With such a short time before the race you do not have the base to jack up the runs. I think the 9+ mile runs will hurt you more then help you. You are in damage control mode for the run as you probably do not have the base to be ramping up so drastically. Can you do the run...absolutely! It probably won't be fast but you can and WILL do the run. Also get your in the pool today, especially with the bbq/beers(plus the beers you had last night!!) Last I seen Darren was around 20+ hours.... Have a great Sunday everyone! Thor's on the $ here. Consider a run/walk for HIM run. Whatever volume of run/walk that is a challenging pace for you and doesn't leave you on the side of the road w/cramps. Maybe run 1 mile walk 1/4, or run 2 walk 1/2, etc. This may be very helpful to you on raceday. We're trying to finish, finish strong, and go injury free. It sucks to be laid up for 3 weeks afterwards Bit--ing to you internet chat buddies about how the back of you knee hurts Also, Thor's right. Make sure you make the swim happen. Bring your buddies to the pool. They can spectate poolside with a 6pk. for company, or something like that. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kevinbe - 2012-09-09 10:36 AM thor67 - 2012-09-09 7:29 AM Qua17 - 2012-09-09 7:52 AM kevinbe - 2012-09-08 9:41 PM Qua17 - 2012-09-08 6:46 PM Looking at your logs, You have 2 more weeks to build, then take a week of dramatically less volume (taper wk1), then your final taper week which is essentially 3-4 workouts of about 15 min in all 3 at minimum effort going into your HIM. Thanks Kevin for the suggestion. I'll check it out... OK - so Thor called it... In an attempt to be more like DH, I pushed it on my long run on Thursday. Felt decent that evening. Ok yesterday... By mile 15 of today's - my hip was aching. I hemmed and hawed about going the full 45 and then running 2 but I decided to shut it down after 30. I've iced and stretched... and its now a dull ache. I don't think I've hurt anything but I'm thinking about only swimming tomorrow and passing on the 3 miles I had planned. Question - as I make my plan for next week, should I A) Run the same amount as I did last week assuming I'm stronger now, B) Run less (say 9 miles instead of 11), C) Decrease the long run significantly and add milage to my shorter runs, D) Decrease my milage and focus on brick workouts. Last - Good luck Cynthia! I'm dying to hear about DH... If time were on our side, I would recommend resting next week. If your in pain, rest. If your sore, with the hand you have, I would say A) run the same amounts, or increase by 10% in your runs, and a bit more in your bike/swim workouts. You have 2 more weeks to build volume. dial down the intensity so you do not injure yourself. Get used to going 10 miles at a slower pace. Get used to swimming 2000 yds in a pool or lake. You bit off a gargantuant bite here, and this may be the biggest feet out of all of us. Agreed - it was a big jump but it pales in comparison to DH's century. Just want to give credit where credit is due. You had the ride volume down, but to go from no run to running 13.1 on top of the other 2 events is huge. Godspeed my friend. Do not kill yourself, but if it aint broke, get out there and train. Take a few weeks of lower volume before the race. If I were in your shoes, this is what I would do. Please take with a grain of salt if it sounds like bad advice. We do not want to have hip pain or pain in the foot. We know those things take time to get over, that's why I'm suggesting high volume w/ low intensity due to the extreme closeness of your event. Totally agree with you about the need to SLOW DOWN. Yesterday, I actually listened to my body and stopped when I felt pain but intentionally going slow is not in my makeup. Sound familiar? So slowing down is a good idea. I guess I'll need to fire up my garmin and set the alarm for speed. I woke up this morning to the familiar ache in my hips and knees. So I will skip my run today and ice and advil. Based upon when friends come over for football, I might even skip the swim but we will see. I'm smoking another pork shoulder so I won't be losing any weight today. Next week, I will play it by ear in terms of distance. I am gonna err on the side of caution because I would rather make it to the line less prepared than not make it to the line... I will make it happen. I might also skip a short run so I can get my long run in... Question - which would be better: to skip a short run or decrease the distance on the long run. My vote would be decreasing the distance because I think I'm doing more damage when I go long. Yesterday was DH's day. Today, thoughts are going out to Cynthia who is kicking a$$ and taking names on the bike as I write this. I hope your nutrition plan is doing you right. No warm coors for you! Well if you are feeling okay, I would increase your short runs by a mile or so(Whatever you are comfortable with0 and decrease your long run. Try get your short runs up a bit and lower your long runs. With such a short time before the race you do not have the base to jack up the runs. I think the 9+ mile runs will hurt you more then help you. You are in damage control mode for the run as you probably do not have the base to be ramping up so drastically. Can you do the run...absolutely! It probably won't be fast but you can and WILL do the run. Also get your in the pool today, especially with the bbq/beers(plus the beers you had last night!!) Last I seen Darren was around 20+ hours.... Have a great Sunday everyone! Thor's on the $ here. Consider a run/walk for HIM run. Whatever volume of run/walk that is a challenging pace for you and doesn't leave you on the side of the road w/cramps. Maybe run 1 mile walk 1/4, or run 2 walk 1/2, etc. This may be very helpful to you on raceday. We're trying to finish, finish strong, and go injury free. It sucks to be laid up for 3 weeks afterwards Bit--ing to you internet chat buddies about how the back of you knee hurts Also, Thor's right. Make sure you make the swim happen. Bring your buddies to the pool. They can spectate poolside with a 6pk. for company, or something like that. I am sure your buddies will love watching you in your speedo while drinking warm coors lite.... |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() enjoying beer #7... Browns lost... I've got to watch out for my pork shoulder... Priorities... As for the speedo, I don;t want to mess with anyones appetite. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Qua17 - 2012-09-09 3:19 PM enjoying beer #7... Browns lost... I've got to watch out for my pork shoulder... Priorities... As for the speedo, I don;t want to mess with anyones appetite. Apron and speedo, the perfect bbq combo for all your closest friends! hahaha |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Qua17 - 2012-09-09 4:19 PM enjoying beer #7... Browns lost... I've got to watch out for my pork shoulder... Priorities... As for the speedo, I don;t want to mess with anyones appetite. OK - too much to eat, too much to drink... might boot Did I mention the browns lost! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Well one week of September in the books...have surpassed my run totals for all of August...Now to get my lazy a$$ on the bike. Swimming pool opened back up this week. Hope to sneak in a swim this week. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() hey guys, thanks for following me along on the weekend. It was an amazing day, excellent in most ways except for the part where I didn't finish after running for 147km and 32 hours. Very mixed feelings. Lots of highs, one incredible low. Still working through it all. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() BigDH - 2012-09-10 8:15 AM hey guys, thanks for following me along on the weekend. It was an amazing day, excellent in most ways except for the part where I didn't finish after running for 147km and 32 hours. Very mixed feelings. Lots of highs, one incredible low. Still working through it all. Ahh, man, less than 9 miles short is still an amazing feat! Look forward to hearing all about it as that is as close to running that distance I will get! Great job! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Qua17 - 2012-09-09 4:19 PM enjoying beer #7... Browns lost... I've got to watch out for my pork shoulder... Priorities... As for the speedo, I don;t want to mess with anyones appetite. Shouldn't you be used that...the Browns losing? Just sayin' Thats ok, I am a Chargers fan and its always hit and miss. And my Nevada Wolfpack lost too this weekend. |
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