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2008-03-26 2:15 PM
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bikeinthemud - 2008-03-26 3:07 PM Z you said you would bake me a cake, what's up with that?  And we can celebrate Shelly's b-day too.  It's a 2 for 1 deal.

Dude, don't steal my thunder - Z can offer you A LOT more than cake, so take the cake from whence it comes.

Anyone else's bday in April?



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2008-03-26 2:49 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-26 3:15 PM

bikeinthemud - 2008-03-26 3:07 PM Z you said you would bake me a cake, what's up with that? And we can celebrate Shelly's b-day too. It's a 2 for 1 deal.

Dude, don't steal my thunder - Z can offer you A LOT more than cake, so take the cake from whence it comes.

Anyone else's bday in April?

you are a real trooper, Wurkit! 

2008-03-26 2:57 PM
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Ok, I'm starting to feel progressively crappier as this day goes on. I definitely need to run tomorrow and Friday, so I am on track to do 8 miles on Sunday. Do I bag spinny tonight, rest at home, take some Nyquil and pass out nice and early, so I can get up and swimmy tomorrow and run after work? Or should I even just sleep extra tomorrow, and just run after work?
2008-03-26 3:04 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-26 3:57 PM Ok, I'm starting to feel progressively crappier as this day goes on. I definitely need to run tomorrow and Friday, so I am on track to do 8 miles on Sunday. Do I bag spinny tonight, rest at home, take some Nyquil and pass out nice and early, so I can get up and swimmy tomorrow and run after work? Or should I even just sleep extra tomorrow, and just run after work?

The run is your focus right now.  You're a good swimmer, and Lord knows you'll be on the bike a lot next month.  Rest up and run tomorrow after work. 

2008-03-26 3:09 PM
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newleaf - 2008-03-26 4:04 PM

wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-26 3:57 PM Ok, I'm starting to feel progressively crappier as this day goes on. I definitely need to run tomorrow and Friday, so I am on track to do 8 miles on Sunday. Do I bag spinny tonight, rest at home, take some Nyquil and pass out nice and early, so I can get up and swimmy tomorrow and run after work? Or should I even just sleep extra tomorrow, and just run after work?

The run is your focus right now.  You're a good swimmer, and Lord knows you'll be on the bike a lot next month.  Rest up and run tomorrow after work. 

Yeah, I just feel bad cuz I haven't swam in awhile. But I'm not particularly worried about my swim skills, though I'd prefer to become more awesome at some point in the near future, so I can move up to FOP in the swim (I'm in this for the small victories - I know you can't win the thing with the swim, and I don't intend to, but it'll be nice to say I'm good at a sport, since I've never been able to do that).

2008-03-26 3:10 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-26 4:09 PM
newleaf - 2008-03-26 4:04 PM

wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-26 3:57 PM Ok, I'm starting to feel progressively crappier as this day goes on. I definitely need to run tomorrow and Friday, so I am on track to do 8 miles on Sunday. Do I bag spinny tonight, rest at home, take some Nyquil and pass out nice and early, so I can get up and swimmy tomorrow and run after work? Or should I even just sleep extra tomorrow, and just run after work?

The run is your focus right now. You're a good swimmer, and Lord knows you'll be on the bike a lot next month. Rest up and run tomorrow after work.

Yeah, I just feel bad cuz I haven't swam in awhile. But I'm not particularly worried about my swim skills, though I'd prefer to become more awesome at some point in the near future, so I can move up to FOP in the swim (I'm in this for the small victories - I know you can't win the thing with the swim, and I don't intend to, but it'll be nice to say I'm good at a sport, since I've never been able to do that).

Yes... but missing a swim tonight won't make a difference insofar as being FOP in the swim at some point is concerned. 



2008-03-26 3:12 PM
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newleaf - 2008-03-26 4:10 PM
wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-26 4:09 PM
newleaf - 2008-03-26 4:04 PM

wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-26 3:57 PM Ok, I'm starting to feel progressively crappier as this day goes on. I definitely need to run tomorrow and Friday, so I am on track to do 8 miles on Sunday. Do I bag spinny tonight, rest at home, take some Nyquil and pass out nice and early, so I can get up and swimmy tomorrow and run after work? Or should I even just sleep extra tomorrow, and just run after work?

The run is your focus right now. You're a good swimmer, and Lord knows you'll be on the bike a lot next month. Rest up and run tomorrow after work.

Yeah, I just feel bad cuz I haven't swam in awhile. But I'm not particularly worried about my swim skills, though I'd prefer to become more awesome at some point in the near future, so I can move up to FOP in the swim (I'm in this for the small victories - I know you can't win the thing with the swim, and I don't intend to, but it'll be nice to say I'm good at a sport, since I've never been able to do that).

Yes... but missing a swim tonight won't make a difference insofar as being FOP in the swim at some point is concerned. 

No, I know - just feel like I've been neglecting the swimmy lately. I actually really need to come in early again tomorrow at work (and probably Friday too).

2008-03-26 3:16 PM
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What I have figured out about the swim is that it really does me no good to swim anything less than 1-2 times a week..
Until you are ready to commit to 2x or more a week, its really just a waste of time, especially for the percentage of time that the swim takes in a race.
If anything swim not at all until 1-2 months before your A race, then attempt 3-4x a week. The increased frequency is key before race day.

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2008-03-26 3:21 PM
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shelly123 - 2008-03-26 4:16 PM What I have figured out about the swim is that it really does me no good to swim anything less than 1-2 times a week..
Until you are ready to commit to 2x or more a week, its really just a waste of time, especially for the percentage of time that the swim takes in a race.
If anything swim not at all until 1-2 months before your A race, then attempt 3-4x a week. The increased frequency is key before race day.

I've been bad lately, but at minimum I plan to do 2x, which is what I did when I started training, and REALLY intend on 3x a week anyway... I expect that from now until October, I will not be doing a whole lot more than training and going to my job every day...

2008-03-26 3:21 PM
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In a perfect world, if you are training in a balanced fashion across S/B/R, the swim should be about 25% of your weekly time.  Throw that all out the window if you are doing some other focused approach though, like preparing for a running race that is a distance that you have never attempted before.
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dck4shrt - 2008-03-26 4:21 PM In a perfect world, if you are training in a balanced fashion across S/B/R, the swim should be about 25% of your weekly time. Throw that all out the window if you are doing some other focused approach though, like preparing for a running race that is a distance that you have never attempted before.

Yes, almost all the minutes-only plans on this site are 25/50/25 S/B/R. 



2008-03-26 3:34 PM
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newleaf - 2008-03-26 4:32 PM

dck4shrt - 2008-03-26 4:21 PM In a perfect world, if you are training in a balanced fashion across S/B/R, the swim should be about 25% of your weekly time. Throw that all out the window if you are doing some other focused approach though, like preparing for a running race that is a distance that you have never attempted before.

Yes, almost all the minutes-only plans on this site are 25/50/25 S/B/R. 

Swim/Run equal??

Here's a question, then; how do you factor in the sports that you are weak in, or otherwise really want to improve for whatever reason? (And assume that "get a coach" is not an option - assume self-coaching only)

2008-03-26 3:39 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-26 4:34 PM
newleaf - 2008-03-26 4:32 PM

dck4shrt - 2008-03-26 4:21 PM In a perfect world, if you are training in a balanced fashion across S/B/R, the swim should be about 25% of your weekly time. Throw that all out the window if you are doing some other focused approach though, like preparing for a running race that is a distance that you have never attempted before.

Yes, almost all the minutes-only plans on this site are 25/50/25 S/B/R.

Swim/Run equal??

Here's a question, then; how do you factor in the sports that you are weak in, or otherwise really want to improve for whatever reason? (And assume that "get a coach" is not an option - assume self-coaching only)

This is where I will defer to those like Shelly and dck, as I am still a relative newbie to this sport.  Although I'd expect you'd put more time into the sport you want to improve at the expense of one that you are content to at least "maintain." 

2008-03-26 3:42 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-26 4:34 PM
newleaf - 2008-03-26 4:32 PM

dck4shrt - 2008-03-26 4:21 PM In a perfect world, if you are training in a balanced fashion across S/B/R, the swim should be about 25% of your weekly time. Throw that all out the window if you are doing some other focused approach though, like preparing for a running race that is a distance that you have never attempted before.

Yes, almost all the minutes-only plans on this site are 25/50/25 S/B/R.

Swim/Run equal??

Here's a question, then; how do you factor in the sports that you are weak in, or otherwise really want to improve for whatever reason? (And assume that "get a coach" is not an option - assume self-coaching only)

In your off season, you do a training block where you focus on the weak sports and drop/minimize the other 2. Allowing yourself enough time to get faster in the sport while scheduling enough time to then go ahead and pick back up the other 2 and prepare for your race.

There are also plans that focus on one discipline more than the others, but I'm not sure if this is the best way to really improve in that discipline or if its better suited for things like injury prevention/avoidance. You want to get faster at a specific discipline, do it a lot, like everyday for a month if you can. Doesn't have to be some extreme time or distance, just let the consistency do its thing before you worry about going long. I think that's why what shelly said about swimming works, since water is a denser medium than air, the feedback on your muscles and those specific aerobic systems causes training adaptations to occur at a faster rate than B/R, in addition to the obvious technique issues.

Oh yeah, S/R should be relatively equal, but the vast majority of triathletes ignore the swim cause they suck at it,think its boring, or think it's only a small part of the race for some reason.



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dck4shrt - 2008-03-26 4:42 PM
wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-26 4:34 PM
newleaf - 2008-03-26 4:32 PM

dck4shrt - 2008-03-26 4:21 PM In a perfect world, if you are training in a balanced fashion across S/B/R, the swim should be about 25% of your weekly time. Throw that all out the window if you are doing some other focused approach though, like preparing for a running race that is a distance that you have never attempted before.

Yes, almost all the minutes-only plans on this site are 25/50/25 S/B/R.

Swim/Run equal??

Here's a question, then; how do you factor in the sports that you are weak in, or otherwise really want to improve for whatever reason? (And assume that "get a coach" is not an option - assume self-coaching only)

In your off season, you do a training block where you focus on the weak sports and drop/minimize the other 2. Allowing yourself enough time to get faster in the sport while scheduling enough time to then go ahead and pick back up the other 2 and prepare for your race.

There are also plans that focus on one discipline more than the others, but I'm not sure if this is the best way to really improve in that discipline or if its better suited for things like injury prevention/avoidance. You want to get faster at a specific discipline, do it a lot, like everyday for a month if you can. Doesn't have to be some extreme time or distance, just let the consistency do its thing before you worry about going long. I think that's why what shelly said about swimming works, since water is a denser medium than air, the feedback on your muscles and those specific aerobic systems causes training adaptations to occur at a faster rate than B/R, in addition to the obvious technique issues.

Oh yeah, S/R should be relatively equal, but the vast majority of triathletes ignore the swim cause they suck at it,think its boring, or think it's only a small part of the race for some reason.

I think I put about 10% into my biking, maybe less, but it is my strong point, should I do more?

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bikeinthemud - 2008-03-26 5:37 PM
dck4shrt - 2008-03-26 4:42 PM
wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-26 4:34 PM
newleaf - 2008-03-26 4:32 PM

dck4shrt - 2008-03-26 4:21 PM In a perfect world, if you are training in a balanced fashion across S/B/R, the swim should be about 25% of your weekly time. Throw that all out the window if you are doing some other focused approach though, like preparing for a running race that is a distance that you have never attempted before.

Yes, almost all the minutes-only plans on this site are 25/50/25 S/B/R.

Swim/Run equal??

Here's a question, then; how do you factor in the sports that you are weak in, or otherwise really want to improve for whatever reason? (And assume that "get a coach" is not an option - assume self-coaching only)

In your off season, you do a training block where you focus on the weak sports and drop/minimize the other 2. Allowing yourself enough time to get faster in the sport while scheduling enough time to then go ahead and pick back up the other 2 and prepare for your race.

There are also plans that focus on one discipline more than the others, but I'm not sure if this is the best way to really improve in that discipline or if its better suited for things like injury prevention/avoidance. You want to get faster at a specific discipline, do it a lot, like everyday for a month if you can. Doesn't have to be some extreme time or distance, just let the consistency do its thing before you worry about going long. I think that's why what shelly said about swimming works, since water is a denser medium than air, the feedback on your muscles and those specific aerobic systems causes training adaptations to occur at a faster rate than B/R, in addition to the obvious technique issues.

Oh yeah, S/R should be relatively equal, but the vast majority of triathletes ignore the swim cause they suck at it,think its boring, or think it's only a small part of the race for some reason.

I think I put about 10% into my biking, maybe less, but it is my strong point, should I do more?

I'm not the expert here, but you actually never took a roadie outside. May be you should do more



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Z - 2008-03-26 6:39 PM
bikeinthemud - 2008-03-26 5:37 PM
dck4shrt - 2008-03-26 4:42 PM
wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-26 4:34 PM
newleaf - 2008-03-26 4:32 PM

dck4shrt - 2008-03-26 4:21 PM In a perfect world, if you are training in a balanced fashion across S/B/R, the swim should be about 25% of your weekly time. Throw that all out the window if you are doing some other focused approach though, like preparing for a running race that is a distance that you have never attempted before.

Yes, almost all the minutes-only plans on this site are 25/50/25 S/B/R.

Swim/Run equal??

Here's a question, then; how do you factor in the sports that you are weak in, or otherwise really want to improve for whatever reason? (And assume that "get a coach" is not an option - assume self-coaching only)

In your off season, you do a training block where you focus on the weak sports and drop/minimize the other 2. Allowing yourself enough time to get faster in the sport while scheduling enough time to then go ahead and pick back up the other 2 and prepare for your race.

There are also plans that focus on one discipline more than the others, but I'm not sure if this is the best way to really improve in that discipline or if its better suited for things like injury prevention/avoidance. You want to get faster at a specific discipline, do it a lot, like everyday for a month if you can. Doesn't have to be some extreme time or distance, just let the consistency do its thing before you worry about going long. I think that's why what shelly said about swimming works, since water is a denser medium than air, the feedback on your muscles and those specific aerobic systems causes training adaptations to occur at a faster rate than B/R, in addition to the obvious technique issues.

Oh yeah, S/R should be relatively equal, but the vast majority of triathletes ignore the swim cause they suck at it,think its boring, or think it's only a small part of the race for some reason.

I think I put about 10% into my biking, maybe less, but it is my strong point, should I do more?

I'm not the expert here, but you actually never took a roadie outside. May be you should do more

That's true; I've officially never been outside on a road bike; only on the trainer inside.  If I go outside, I go in the mud because it makes me happy

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bikeinthemud - 2008-03-26 5:37 PM

I think I put about 10% into my biking, maybe less, but it is my strong point, should I do more?

Just my $.02 here.  I know you put up what looks to be big MPH on the trainer.  But trainer miles, depending on how the resistance is on the trainer, etc., is relatively meaningless.  You might also put up 20-21 MPH on outdoor rides consistently as well, but you need to go find out, bro.   

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newleaf - 2008-03-26 8:28 PM
bikeinthemud - 2008-03-26 5:37 PM

I think I put about 10% into my biking, maybe less, but it is my strong point, should I do more?

Just my $.02 here.  I know you put up what looks to be big MPH on the trainer.  But trainer miles, depending on how the resistance is on the trainer, etc., is relatively meaningless.  You might also put up 20-21 MPH on outdoor rides consistently as well, but you need to go find out, bro.   

Well in my defense I did average 21 mph on the trainer @ Spokes for 2 hours with the crew.  The resistance there is fairly accurate.  But, I can't truly maintain that outside due to sharp turns, stops, road conditions etc.  I still think I can get 19-20, we'll see after the Mary.

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bikeinthemud - 2008-03-26 8:48 PM
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bikeinthemud - 2008-03-26 5:37 PM

I think I put about 10% into my biking, maybe less, but it is my strong point, should I do more?

Just my $.02 here. I know you put up what looks to be big MPH on the trainer. But trainer miles, depending on how the resistance is on the trainer, etc., is relatively meaningless. You might also put up 20-21 MPH on outdoor rides consistently as well, but you need to go find out, bro.

Well in my defense I did average 21 mph on the trainer @ Spokes for 2 hours with the crew. The resistance there is fairly accurate. But, I can't truly maintain that outside due to sharp turns, stops, road conditions etc. I still think I can get 19-20, we'll see after the Mary.

I've seen you.  I'm sure you can put up some numbers.  This was just more encouragement to get outside and ride.  After the mary of course.  Which you are going to kick some mary a$$ on. 

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newleaf - 2008-03-26 8:54 PM
bikeinthemud - 2008-03-26 8:48 PM
newleaf - 2008-03-26 8:28 PM
bikeinthemud - 2008-03-26 5:37 PM

I think I put about 10% into my biking, maybe less, but it is my strong point, should I do more?

Just my $.02 here. I know you put up what looks to be big MPH on the trainer. But trainer miles, depending on how the resistance is on the trainer, etc., is relatively meaningless. You might also put up 20-21 MPH on outdoor rides consistently as well, but you need to go find out, bro.

Well in my defense I did average 21 mph on the trainer @ Spokes for 2 hours with the crew. The resistance there is fairly accurate. But, I can't truly maintain that outside due to sharp turns, stops, road conditions etc. I still think I can get 19-20, we'll see after the Mary.

I've seen you.  I'm sure you can put up some numbers.  This was just more encouragement to get outside and ride.  After the mary of course.  Which you are going to kick some mary a$$ on. 

Thanks for the encouragement man; I have high hopes.



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Yes, make sure you show your roommate you care.  That is, before you kill her. 
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newleaf - 2008-03-27 8:56 AM Yes, make sure you show your roommate you care. That is, before you kill her.

I instantly knew it was Wurkit's thread even before I saw her name on it  

2008-03-27 8:49 AM
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Z - 2008-03-27 9:44 AM

newleaf - 2008-03-27 8:56 AM Yes, make sure you show your roommate you care. That is, before you kill her.

I instantly knew it was Wurkit's thread even before I saw her name on it  

Seriously - she's a nutbag - go read the thread if you're bored and want some entertainment.

I don't ACTUALLY want to kill her but she's SO g-d passive aggressive that you can't confront her about anything.



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