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 2010-01-08 4:47 PM in reply to: #2555972 |
Expert  801   Oklahoma City |  Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSEDThis weekends goals: Saturday - 25 mile bike ride in the freezing cold. Brrrr!!! I'm tired of the stationary bike at the Y. I've got to get outside again! Afterwards, meeting guy about a road bike that I am thinking about purchasing. Got to take it to a bike shop and make sure it fits me. Can't wait! Sunday - Going to go to my Granny's house for a family get together. I plan on giving my father the evil eye the entire time. Just to mess with his head :P (Trust me, he totally deserves it.) Have a wonderful weekend everyone, and good luck to those racing! |
| 2010-01-08 5:09 PM in reply to: #2603819 |
Veteran 207 | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED dalessit - 2010-01-08 1:44 PM So Steve, Matt, Ryan, come on Pete Caroll? He was a horrible NFL coach, he is only a good College coach because the rest of the Pac 10 is poo poo so all the decent players on the west coast go there... I know... frankly, I was surprised they gave Mora the boot so quickly. I haven't heard about whether the rest of the coaching staff is going to stay or not. The Hawks OC was pretty awful; we have a decent group of receivers here, especially with Housh in town, but I don't think we used them effectively at all. Anyway, I'm skeptical of Carroll too. Zero tri content there... hmmm... um, let's see. For all you beginners, the newest issue of Triathlete magazine is targeted at you, with a special guide, checklist, etc. Might be worth checking out! |
| 2010-01-08 5:12 PM in reply to: #2603716 |
Extreme Veteran 310 Colorado Springs | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED Mett - 2010-01-08 2:05 PM Redknight - 2010-01-08 9:02 AM Mett - 2010-01-07 4:03 PM I would love to find a swim coach, I just cant afford a whole lot at the moment. I will make a post in the Ohio forums and see what I can find. You might be able to just get a few lessons from the local swimming pool etc. the expense is significantly less and it might make a world of diference to your stuyle. I know it helped me a coupl of years ago. I did 2 lessons per week for 6 weeks, I think< and it cost me only about 100.00 No hits yet on the ohio forums. Its not that I can t swim, I am a great swimmer, I just need to learn how to swim endurance. I burn myself out too quit and just need someone to watch my form and correct it so I can swim a longer distance/ It sounds like you may have the same issue as me. Less than two weeks ago (Dec 29th) I posted about my swimming endurance issue. At the time, I was struggling to make 300yds without stopping because I was going too fast (1:30/100). Since then I have done two things. First, I changed my warmup routine from swimming 200 straight freestyle, to swimming 300 mixed alternating between 50 free and 50 breast. This change prevents me from wasting my energy during my warmup. Then, on my main sets, I SLOWED DOWN. The key here was patience. I had to be patient, and make a concious effort to slow way down. As a result, I swam my first 1000 straight yesterday in 19:09. Still below 2:00/100, and now I have a good training pace that I can build from. Once my endurance is solid, then I can start pushing my faster paces again. Maybe it isn't your form, perhaps you just need to slow down ALOT, until your endurance is solid. Oh, and slowing down is FREE! |
| 2010-01-08 5:16 PM in reply to: #2603299 |
Master 1539  Sin City | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED fattyfatfat - 2010-01-08 10:47 AM OK DJ. I think I found it. And never mind what i said. It looks pretty good. Yeah do it! http://www.swimlv.com/intermediate-4-week-stroke-clinic.html geez. if that's it they have some really cool programs. did you see the ows lessons? i wish we had something like this around here. yep, that's it. Man you're the king when it comes looking stuff up in the web. Hope you don't find my "PRIVATE" page. *winks* Yeah, I saw the OWS as well, and I like that too because I've heard that OWS is WAY different than your normal pool. However, I do have a couple tri friends that will do OWS prior to racing, so I'm not sure if it's going to be any valuable paying extra. But we'll see... |
| 2010-01-08 5:21 PM in reply to: #2603905 |
Master 1539 Sin City | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED ashort33 - 2010-01-08 2:28 PM Ask DJ - she's a member of the Borg collective I think {{{YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED}}} LOL!! Someday you gotta see the hardware I got on my head ($80,000 worth!), and the nifty thing about being able to attach spoons on both sides of my head will make anyone laugh. yeah I know, "it ain't worth crap without pictures!!". :-) Edited by CyborgQueen 2010-01-08 5:30 PM |
| 2010-01-08 5:26 PM in reply to: #2603981 |
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| 2010-01-08 5:29 PM in reply to: #2555972 |
Master 1539 Sin City | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED Weekend: No races, but two rides. I have two rides lined up - Tomorrow is 25ish to 30 miles (easy pace, and this time I'm bringing my HRM to see how I do on the hills since this is the SAME ride I went last week, and I'm curious how high my HR gets), and THIS time I have NO frickin' excuse about not eating before the ride since the place is giving away free breakfast. Sunday is 10-15 mile ride easy recovery group ride, and BLV.com beginners ride, so I'm just hanging out to enjoy the ride. Maybe after they're gone, I will do some intervals on one of the Lake loops and hopefully get negative splits per lap (1.3 miles or so per lap). Hopefully no more than 20 miles on Sunday. |
| 2010-01-08 5:31 PM in reply to: #2603981 |
Extreme Veteran 333 | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED CyborgQueen - 2010-01-08 6:21 PM ashort33 - 2010-01-08 2:28 PM Ask DJ - she's a member of the Borg collective I think {{{YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED}}} LOL!! Someday you gotta see the hardware I got on my head ($80,000 worth!), and the nifty thing about attaching spoons will make anyone laugh. yeah I know, "it ain't worth crap without pictures!!". :-) Coclear implant? Very cool. A colleague of mine has one. Amazing technology. |
| 2010-01-08 5:39 PM in reply to: #2603845 |
Master 1690 Metro NY Area | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED That is one of the things I'm working on in my swim group. I have gone from mid 30's per 25 meters to mid 20's in the past month. I'm also working on rotation. tahrens - 2010-01-08 4:54 PM Have you tried counting your strokes and or timing your laps? Maybe decreasing your stroke count or purposely taking longer to swim a lap could help? Also form drills are great at building endurance. |
| 2010-01-08 5:43 PM in reply to: #2603971 |
Extreme Veteran 488 Lewis Center, Ohio | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED AF_SGT - 2010-01-08 6:12 PM Mett - 2010-01-08 2:05 PM Redknight - 2010-01-08 9:02 AM Mett - 2010-01-07 4:03 PM I would love to find a swim coach, I just cant afford a whole lot at the moment. I will make a post in the Ohio forums and see what I can find. You might be able to just get a few lessons from the local swimming pool etc. the expense is significantly less and it might make a world of diference to your stuyle. I know it helped me a coupl of years ago. I did 2 lessons per week for 6 weeks, I think< and it cost me only about 100.00 No hits yet on the ohio forums. Its not that I can t swim, I am a great swimmer, I just need to learn how to swim endurance. I burn myself out too quit and just need someone to watch my form and correct it so I can swim a longer distance/ It sounds like you may have the same issue as me. Less than two weeks ago (Dec 29th) I posted about my swimming endurance issue. At the time, I was struggling to make 300yds without stopping because I was going too fast (1:30/100). Since then I have done two things. First, I changed my warmup routine from swimming 200 straight freestyle, to swimming 300 mixed alternating between 50 free and 50 breast. This change prevents me from wasting my energy during my warmup. Then, on my main sets, I SLOWED DOWN. The key here was patience. I had to be patient, and make a concious effort to slow way down. As a result, I swam my first 1000 straight yesterday in 19:09. Still below 2:00/100, and now I have a good training pace that I can build from. Once my endurance is solid, then I can start pushing my faster paces again. Maybe it isn't your form, perhaps you just need to slow down ALOT, until your endurance is solid. Oh, and slowing down is FREE! I may try that, I have the mentality that I have to go fast. I will try to slow way down and see what happens. |
| 2010-01-08 6:00 PM in reply to: #2604003 |
Elite 3072 san francisco | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED losta - 2010-01-08 3:39 PM That is one of the things I'm working on in my swim group. I have gone from mid 30's per 25 meters to mid 20's in the past month. I'm also working on rotation. tahrens - 2010-01-08 4:54 PM Have you tried counting your strokes and or timing your laps? Maybe decreasing your stroke count or purposely taking longer to swim a lap could help? Also form drills are great at building endurance. Awesome, Lisa! That is a huge improvement in a month! way to go.  |
| 2010-01-08 6:22 PM in reply to: #2555972 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED alright. my tahrens 2.6 is in. i have a 11 miler tomorrow so i did it tonight. have a great run tracy!! |
| 2010-01-08 6:34 PM in reply to: #2604048 |
Elite 3072 san francisco | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED fattyfatfat - 2010-01-08 4:22 PM alright. my tahrens 2.6 is in. i have a 11 miler tomorrow so i did it tonight. have a great run tracy!! just 11? slacker |
| 2010-01-08 6:39 PM in reply to: #2555972 |
Expert 1027 | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED Well tack another day on to the no swim list. I came home and did my 5 min LT test, not really sure of what I could push, I feel pretty good about it, I may have been just a bit under what I could do. My 20 min TT: 274 Watts 5 min TT: 319 Watts Using Jorges formula, puts me at 259 LTP, I think I could push the 20 minute one a bit harder as well, but pretty good numbers, with room for improvement before the season starts. I think the pool should be open tomorrow, so I hope to get a good swim in as well as a nice easy run with another swim Sunday and long bike ride. |
| 2010-01-08 6:45 PM in reply to: #2603921 |
| Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED TriFrog93 - 2010-01-08 5:39 PM dalessit - 2010-01-08 3:44 PM So Steve, Matt, Ryan, come on Pete Caroll? He was a horrible NFL coach, he is only a good College coach because the rest of the Pac 10 is poo poo so all the decent players on the west coast go there... Looks like Carroll might be headed to the Seahawks and Reilly might be headed to USC. Robert Have to agree with Tony, Pete didn't find much success in the NFL years ago. But, his staff has been raided the last few years and this season was pretty frustrating .. so he may be listening. Hate to see him go, I think he's done a great job and he's got class. How many coaches possess both of those characteristics? |
| 2010-01-08 6:48 PM in reply to: #2603974 |
| Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED CyborgQueen - I've heard that OWS is WAY different than your normal pool. Some struggle with the difference between the pool and ows and others don't. I strongly suggest doing some ows before your first tri. The nerves of the race may kick in and you need to feel comfortable in the water. |
| 2010-01-08 7:40 PM in reply to: #2604076 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED jvanis - 2010-01-08 6:39 PM Well tack another day on to the no swim list. I came home and did my 5 min LT test, not really sure of what I could push, I feel pretty good about it, I may have been just a bit under what I could do. My 20 min TT: 274 Watts 5 min TT: 319 Watts Using Jorges formula, puts me at 259 LTP, I think I could push the 20 minute one a bit harder as well, but pretty good numbers, with room for improvement before the season starts. I think the pool should be open tomorrow, so I hope to get a good swim in as well as a nice easy run with another swim Sunday and long bike ride. Nice job!! Both you and Tony have done 5minute TTs. What do you do with that information? I've done the 20' for off season and the 60 minute during season, but no one has ever had me do the shorter ones..... |
| 2010-01-08 7:45 PM in reply to: #2604086 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED Havin'Fun - 2010-01-08 6:48 PM CyborgQueen - I've heard that OWS is WAY different than your normal pool. Some struggle with the difference between the pool and ows and others don't. I strongly suggest doing some ows before your first tri. The nerves of the race may kick in and you need to feel comfortable in the water. OWS is a lot different to me....you can't see the bottom, you need to site often to keep a straight line, you have a lot of humans around you swimming like crazy people and there are no walls to grab if you need them. When I first started, I did it in shallow enough water I could stand up in if I needed to....strongly recommend it. |
| 2010-01-08 7:50 PM in reply to: #2603359 |
Master 1952 Guelph, Ontario | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED SSMinnow - 2010-01-08 2:09 PM I just realized I totally shunned my responsbilities. If you want to ignore all of my posts for the next week I would totally understand! Starting out tomorrow with my first boot camp class of the year. Then Sunday hopefully a brick bike and run. Gotta get in that 2.6 miles for Sugar.. Edited by Redknight 2010-01-08 7:54 PM |
| 2010-01-08 7:53 PM in reply to: #2603528 |
Master 1952 Guelph, Ontario | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED fattyfatfat - 2010-01-08 3:00 PM SSMinnow - 2010-01-08 1:48 Sometimes we think rest will heal everything and then the annoying injury returns when we start up again. In this instance all the muscle balancing and resting doesn't do a lot to solve the long term problem.....key is attacking the short leg. I asked if I could have two new ones, preferably 6-10" longer than the current set, but my doctor turned me down.  .Damn doctors.Suzy wait there's hope !!!! i'll forward you some of the emails i get about gaining 6-10".
Edited by Redknight 2010-01-08 7:53 PM |
| 2010-01-08 7:54 PM in reply to: #2604161 |
Expert 1027 | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED I am modifying the cycling plan Jorge had to fit in with my BT plan I am using. It has you do both a 20 and a 5 in order to better estimate your 60. Mine happened to be only 1 watt different. It is also a good way to get your peak powers at a certain time. The 60 minute one just takes a lot of focusing. It also can resemble a strong start to push out of transition as well. |
| 2010-01-08 7:58 PM in reply to: #2603716 |
Master 1952 Guelph, Ontario | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED Mett - 2010-01-08 4:05 PM Redknight - 2010-01-08 9:02 AM Mett - 2010-01-07 4:03 PM I would love to find a swim coach, I just cant afford a whole lot at the moment. I will make a post in the Ohio forums and see what I can find. You might be able to just get a few lessons from the local swimming pool etc. the expense is significantly less and it might make a world of diference to your stuyle. I know it helped me a coupl of years ago. I did 2 lessons per week for 6 weeks, I think< and it cost me only about 100.00 No hits yet on the ohio forums. Its not that I can t swim, I am a great swimmer, I just need to learn how to swim endurance. I burn myself out too quit and just need someone to watch my form and correct it so I can swim a longer distance/ That was what I got the swim coach for. She didn't really improve my stroke just pushed me for endurance. Taught me to slow down ane relax for the long distances. Of course that was in between the sprints and other stuff. |
| 2010-01-08 8:03 PM in reply to: #2603971 |
Master 1952 Guelph, Ontario | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED AF_SGT - 2010-01-08 6:12 PM Mett - 2010-01-08 2:05 PM Redknight - 2010-01-08 9:02 AM Mett - 2010-01-07 4:03 PM I would love to find a swim coach, I just cant afford a whole lot at the moment. I will make a post in the Ohio forums and see what I can find. You might be able to just get a few lessons from the local swimming pool etc. the expense is significantly less and it might make a world of diference to your stuyle. I know it helped me a coupl of years ago. I did 2 lessons per week for 6 weeks, I think< and it cost me only about 100.00 No hits yet on the ohio forums. Its not that I can t swim, I am a great swimmer, I just need to learn how to swim endurance. I burn myself out too quit and just need someone to watch my form and correct it so I can swim a longer distance/ It sounds like you may have the same issue as me. Less than two weeks ago (Dec 29th) I posted about my swimming endurance issue. At the time, I was struggling to make 300yds without stopping because I was going too fast (1:30/100). Since then I have done two things. First, I changed my warmup routine from swimming 200 straight freestyle, to swimming 300 mixed alternating between 50 free and 50 breast. This change prevents me from wasting my energy during my warmup. Then, on my main sets, I SLOWED DOWN. The key here was patience. I had to be patient, and make a concious effort to slow way down. As a result, I swam my first 1000 straight yesterday in 19:09. Still below 2:00/100, and now I have a good training pace that I can build from. Once my endurance is solid, then I can start pushing my faster paces again. Maybe it isn't your form, perhaps you just need to slow down ALOT, until your endurance is solid. Oh, and slowing down is FREE! Way to go Paul. It's amazing what we can do with a little patience. |
| 2010-01-08 8:08 PM in reply to: #2604067 |
Master 1952 Guelph, Ontario | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED kt65 - 2010-01-08 7:34 PM fattyfatfat - 2010-01-08 4:22 PM alright. my tahrens 2.6 is in. i have a 11 miler tomorrow so i did it tonight. have a great run tracy!! just 11? slacker John said it was going to be 13 but they cut it short in case some of the women had to go potty. Didn't want the race to go too late in the day. |
| 2010-01-08 8:11 PM in reply to: #2604086 |
Master 1952 Guelph, Ontario | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED Havin'Fun - 2010-01-08 7:48 PM CyborgQueen - I've heard that OWS is WAY different than your normal pool. Some struggle with the difference between the pool and ows and others don't. I strongly suggest doing some ows before your first tri. The nerves of the race may kick in and you need to feel comfortable in the water. agree it's best if you can get an OWS in before your race. I guess I am one of the lucky ones and it doesn't matter to me whether pool or OW I don't have a problem. My first OWS was my first race and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I just get a little nervous aobut the lake sharks we have up here Edited by Redknight 2010-01-08 8:13 PM |
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