Separation of Church and State? (Page 8)

Comments like yours make me feel very thankful that my oldest was able to go to the school he did, and my youngest is able to go to the school he is at now. It's not a dig at you by any means, but a reflection of the state of education in America.

Having taught undergraduate college for a while it's pretty clear why we are becoming uncompetitive, and that kids are graduating without the basic skills required for a technology and service based economy. All you need to do is look at the percentage of foreign students in graduate programs in the hard sciences to know this is fact.

And we're worrying about religion in the schools? Let's worry about education in the schools. Theologists aren't going to design the next generation of microprocessors or develop therapeutics for cancer.

eta: Sorry, Shane, I went off on a tangent that wasn't directed at you, you probably agree with what I wrote.

Here's a picture of the info that was handed out at the schools.  I've enjoyed the discussion this has prompted, even the handful of tangents, and am glad I asked this question here because I knew there would be a lively, yet respectful, discussion.

And for those who were wondering if this was perhaps just some innocent picnic, here's a link to the program in question:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/outreach/event/Baraboo12/

This is an interesting way to look at things. Curious, but interesting, nevertheless.

Let's see if it extends to other demographics which might not be present.

I live in Loudoun County, the county with the highest per capita income in the United States. In my kids' school district, there are exactly zero kids living under the poverty line, or in "poor" conditions. Using the above logic, we're able to avoid reading any material which talks about such people.

There are also zero Native Americans in my child's school. Another set of books we can check off!

What there are many of, however, is rich white kids. So, that is what we ought to spend the majority of our time on. Learning about people just like ourselves. The heck with the whole "broadening one's horizons" thing!!  What a load of nonsense. We're doing just fine, thank you, without those d@mn poor people and Native Americans cluttering up our lesson time.

If we happen to run into any poor people or Native Americans, or Goddess forbid homosexuals, we'll figure out how to deal with them later.  They're probably all drunk, anyway. Well, probably not the homosexuals. They're all about sex and little else. At least that's what I hear anecdotally... I've never really had any sort of education on any of those groups.

I feel so much better now. There are a *lot* of books that we need to purge from the curriculum.

If all you are going to do is read what you want to read, then we can just stop here.

I added back in the part you cut out that said exactly what you are talking about.

Please excuse me if I have a different opinion than others.

Is sexuality a topic that effects kids... YES 

Is homosexuality a legitimate topic to discuss with kids... YES

Do kids get bullied for being different... YES

Could a kid get beat up for having homosexual parents... YES

Is violence against kids with gay parents a epidemic in this country that demands immediate attention... NO

Do 2nd graders need to be taught about homosexuality to learn the lesson of respect towards others.... NO

Do 2nd graders need to be taught about human sexuality just because Billy teases suzy.... NO

Is a GLBT group appropriate for Highschoolers... YES

Is a GLBT group appropriate for 2nd graders... NO

How did a thread about whether or not it is appropriate for a school to essentially endorse creationism become a debate about the straw man of GLBT groups for 7 and 8 year olds? I mean, I've been around long enough to know BT tends to end up off topic, but seriously? 

Well seriously then, you know all you need to do is go back a couple of pages and figure out where it got derailed. One person said one thing, another person took it out of context and said another... so on and so forth and here we are. That's the Cliff's Notes version.

Did anyone say anything about LGBT groups for 2nd graders... NO

Sheesh.

Good Lord. You post what you did above, basically making me out to be against any diversity awareness at all... by selectively editing one sentence then railing against some position I don't have... and then you want to educate me on what a straw man argument is. Sheesh indeed. Have a nice night Tea. Peace.