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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() sand101 - 2010-06-13 12:05 PM Just as a note I did my race yesterday. I struggled mightily on the run, but did manage to finish good enough for 3rd in the beginner category. I'll have an AAR up once the splits become available. congrats! podium finish!! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() titeloops - 2010-06-13 5:28 PM sand101 - 2010-06-13 12:05 PM Just as a note I did my race yesterday. I struggled mightily on the run, but did manage to finish good enough for 3rd in the beginner category. I'll have an AAR up once the splits become available. congrats! podium finish!! ditto. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cornfed - 2010-06-13 5:34 PM titeloops - 2010-06-13 5:28 PM sand101 - 2010-06-13 12:05 PM Just as a note I did my race yesterday. I struggled mightily on the run, but did manage to finish good enough for 3rd in the beginner category. I'll have an AAR up once the splits become available. congrats! podium finish!! ditto. Thanks, guys. It was a pretty good race for me, now that I have had a look at the splits. No time to write it up tonight, but my AG rankings were: Swim: 1/40 Bike: 3/40 Run: 10/40 I was top third and top half in the transitions. Obviously I need to work on those a bit, as well as (duh) my running. Damn heat. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cornfed - 2010-06-13 3:48 PM I have two swim questions... First, what do you normally do for a warm up or cool down? The program I'm following will call for some distance, say 300 yds, for warm up or cool down. I normally swim it easy and break it up into sets of 50, 75, or 100 depending on how I feel. Sometimes for the cool down I put my fins on for part of it if I'm tired and my form was starting to fall apart. What should I be doing for these parts of my workout? Second, I pretty slow right now but I don't really care because I figure speed will come later. Things are slowly starting to click and I'm feeling much better in the water. I don't feel much more fluid and am able to do longer workouts. I just got back from doing 1600yd with 1000yd continuous swim in the middle. Granted I averaged just under 2:00/100yd but I felt very good and I was able to notice some of the little nagging form problems I've been having and correct them myself. I've taken the attitude that since I've only been swimming a short time that I should concentrate on form and speed will come later. Is this true? Is it a good way to approach swimming for a beginner? 1. WU and CD are pretty much up for grabs. I usually do several hundred yards of free at varying speeds with some stretching mixed in. I sometimes mix in other strokes as well. 2. Yes. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Breakthrough day for me yesterday. I have actually avoided signing up for races (IM and HIM) that were not gonna be wetsuit legal, cause for some crazy reason I needed the security of the wetsuit. Yesterday I did a 2000 yard OWS with no wetsuit. Was all over the place at first, and form was out the window. When I finally settled in and started focusing on form I felt great. Time was slow, but that wasn't the point of the workout. So I got home and registered for Augusta 70.3 in Sept. B2B in Nov. will still be my A race, but I'm excited about doing an IM branded race! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() titeloops - 2010-06-14 5:34 AM cornfed - 2010-06-13 3:48 PM I have two swim questions... First, what do you normally do for a warm up or cool down? The program I'm following will call for some distance, say 300 yds, for warm up or cool down. I normally swim it easy and break it up into sets of 50, 75, or 100 depending on how I feel. Sometimes for the cool down I put my fins on for part of it if I'm tired and my form was starting to fall apart. What should I be doing for these parts of my workout? Second, I pretty slow right now but I don't really care because I figure speed will come later. Things are slowly starting to click and I'm feeling much better in the water. I don't feel much more fluid and am able to do longer workouts. I just got back from doing 1600yd with 1000yd continuous swim in the middle. Granted I averaged just under 2:00/100yd but I felt very good and I was able to notice some of the little nagging form problems I've been having and correct them myself. I've taken the attitude that since I've only been swimming a short time that I should concentrate on form and speed will come later. Is this true? Is it a good way to approach swimming for a beginner? 1. WU and CD are pretty much up for grabs. I usually do several hundred yards of free at varying speeds with some stretching mixed in. I sometimes mix in other strokes as well. 2. Yes. 1. I do a 500yd warmup. Same thing every time - 2x100, 200, 100. I then do 500yds of drills. That leads into the main set. 2. Pretty much. Swimming is like golf. To get decently fast you really don't have to kill yourself. In golf a good smooth swing will get the ball going a pretty long way. Once you hit 1:40/100 or somewhere around there with regularity then I'd start really doing hard intervals. That doesn't mean everything should be slow. Mix it up, but concentrate on stroke mechanics first. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() sand101 - 2010-06-14 11:49 AM titeloops - 2010-06-14 5:34 AM cornfed - 2010-06-13 3:48 PM I have two swim questions... First, what do you normally do for a warm up or cool down? The program I'm following will call for some distance, say 300 yds, for warm up or cool down. I normally swim it easy and break it up into sets of 50, 75, or 100 depending on how I feel. Sometimes for the cool down I put my fins on for part of it if I'm tired and my form was starting to fall apart. What should I be doing for these parts of my workout? Second, I pretty slow right now but I don't really care because I figure speed will come later. Things are slowly starting to click and I'm feeling much better in the water. I don't feel much more fluid and am able to do longer workouts. I just got back from doing 1600yd with 1000yd continuous swim in the middle. Granted I averaged just under 2:00/100yd but I felt very good and I was able to notice some of the little nagging form problems I've been having and correct them myself. I've taken the attitude that since I've only been swimming a short time that I should concentrate on form and speed will come later. Is this true? Is it a good way to approach swimming for a beginner? 1. WU and CD are pretty much up for grabs. I usually do several hundred yards of free at varying speeds with some stretching mixed in. I sometimes mix in other strokes as well. 2. Yes. 1. I do a 500yd warmup. Same thing every time - 2x100, 200, 100. I then do 500yds of drills. That leads into the main set. 2. Pretty much. Swimming is like golf. To get decently fast you really don't have to kill yourself. In golf a good smooth swing will get the ball going a pretty long way. Once you hit 1:40/100 or somewhere around there with regularity then I'd start really doing hard intervals. That doesn't mean everything should be slow. Mix it up, but concentrate on stroke mechanics first. The program I'm following has me swimming three times a week. The first two days are always: warm up, drills, kick sets, main set, cool down. The third day just has the one long continuous swim for the mainset (no drills or kick sets) with a warm up and cool down. The main sets are something like 10x100 at "moderate aerobic effort" or sets of intervals. Sounds like I should push it on the intervals so that I'm working harder then normal but not so much that I'm compromising my form, correct? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() sand101 - 2010-06-14 10:49 AM titeloops - 2010-06-14 5:34 AM cornfed - 2010-06-13 3:48 PM I have two swim questions... First, what do you normally do for a warm up or cool down? The program I'm following will call for some distance, say 300 yds, for warm up or cool down. I normally swim it easy and break it up into sets of 50, 75, or 100 depending on how I feel. Sometimes for the cool down I put my fins on for part of it if I'm tired and my form was starting to fall apart. What should I be doing for these parts of my workout? Second, I pretty slow right now but I don't really care because I figure speed will come later. Things are slowly starting to click and I'm feeling much better in the water. I don't feel much more fluid and am able to do longer workouts. I just got back from doing 1600yd with 1000yd continuous swim in the middle. Granted I averaged just under 2:00/100yd but I felt very good and I was able to notice some of the little nagging form problems I've been having and correct them myself. I've taken the attitude that since I've only been swimming a short time that I should concentrate on form and speed will come later. Is this true? Is it a good way to approach swimming for a beginner? 1. WU and CD are pretty much up for grabs. I usually do several hundred yards of free at varying speeds with some stretching mixed in. I sometimes mix in other strokes as well. 2. Yes. 1. I do a 500yd warmup. Same thing every time - 2x100, 200, 100. I then do 500yds of drills. That leads into the main set. 2. Pretty much. Swimming is like golf. To get decently fast you really don't have to kill yourself. In golf a good smooth swing will get the ball going a pretty long way. Once you hit 1:40/100 or somewhere around there with regularity then I'd start really doing hard intervals. That doesn't mean everything should be slow. Mix it up, but concentrate on stroke mechanics first. Well said. If your going to do harder intervals make them shorter, so you can carry good form. I like to do 200-300 yards at an easy pace, then some mixed strokes or drills, then some 25s or 50s on 10-15 sec rest. After that I'm ready to do work. On another note Olive Garden is officially of my pre race meal list. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm thinking about signing up for a half marathon in the fall. Only problem is the schedule isn't very good. The race is 13 Nov and I'm signed up for an Oly (my first) on 12 Sept. That should give me plenty of time to train except that I'm going on vacation for 10 days in the middle of October and (being realistic) won't train at all during that time. I'll have 4 weeks post Oly before leaving and 3 weeks when I get back from vacation. I know this is compressed and not an ideal training plan but is it a dumb idea? The only reason I'm worrying about it now is that I can get a pretty good discount if I sign up by the end of the month. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cornfed - 2010-06-16 3:10 PM I'm thinking about signing up for a half marathon in the fall. Only problem is the schedule isn't very good. The race is 13 Nov and I'm signed up for an Oly (my first) on 12 Sept. That should give me plenty of time to train except that I'm going on vacation for 10 days in the middle of October and (being realistic) won't train at all during that time. I'll have 4 weeks post Oly before leaving and 3 weeks when I get back from vacation. I know this is compressed and not an ideal training plan but is it a dumb idea? The only reason I'm worrying about it now is that I can get a pretty good discount if I sign up by the end of the month. IMHO, if you can do an oly, your can run a half mary. I did my first half mary having never run over 8 miles. You may not run it fast, but you can finish! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() titeloops - 2010-06-16 8:17 PM cornfed - 2010-06-16 3:10 PM I'm thinking about signing up for a half marathon in the fall. Only problem is the schedule isn't very good. The race is 13 Nov and I'm signed up for an Oly (my first) on 12 Sept. That should give me plenty of time to train except that I'm going on vacation for 10 days in the middle of October and (being realistic) won't train at all during that time. I'll have 4 weeks post Oly before leaving and 3 weeks when I get back from vacation. I know this is compressed and not an ideal training plan but is it a dumb idea? The only reason I'm worrying about it now is that I can get a pretty good discount if I sign up by the end of the month. IMHO, if you can do an oly, your can run a half mary. I did my first half mary having never run over 8 miles. You may not run it fast, but you can finish! I'm not looking to blow away my PR but at the same time I'm also not looking to just finish. I'm think I'll have the overall fitness after the oly and if I shift my focus to running I should be able to do well. And by well I mean I can turn in a sold performance and enjoy myself at the same time. What sort of recover time should I expect after the oly? Should I be able to gradually increase my run volume immediately after the race or will I need a little time off? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cornfed - 2010-06-16 9:38 PM titeloops - 2010-06-16 8:17 PM cornfed - 2010-06-16 3:10 PM I'm thinking about signing up for a half marathon in the fall. Only problem is the schedule isn't very good. The race is 13 Nov and I'm signed up for an Oly (my first) on 12 Sept. That should give me plenty of time to train except that I'm going on vacation for 10 days in the middle of October and (being realistic) won't train at all during that time. I'll have 4 weeks post Oly before leaving and 3 weeks when I get back from vacation. I know this is compressed and not an ideal training plan but is it a dumb idea? The only reason I'm worrying about it now is that I can get a pretty good discount if I sign up by the end of the month. IMHO, if you can do an oly, your can run a half mary. I did my first half mary having never run over 8 miles. You may not run it fast, but you can finish! I'm not looking to blow away my PR but at the same time I'm also not looking to just finish. I'm think I'll have the overall fitness after the oly and if I shift my focus to running I should be able to do well. And by well I mean I can turn in a sold performance and enjoy myself at the same time. What sort of recover time should I expect after the oly? Should I be able to gradually increase my run volume immediately after the race or will I need a little time off? Where are you going on vacation? You should have plenty of fitness to do more than finish. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() BamaDC - 2010-06-17 2:40 PM cornfed - 2010-06-16 9:38 PM titeloops - 2010-06-16 8:17 PM cornfed - 2010-06-16 3:10 PM I'm thinking about signing up for a half marathon in the fall. Only problem is the schedule isn't very good. The race is 13 Nov and I'm signed up for an Oly (my first) on 12 Sept. That should give me plenty of time to train except that I'm going on vacation for 10 days in the middle of October and (being realistic) won't train at all during that time. I'll have 4 weeks post Oly before leaving and 3 weeks when I get back from vacation. I know this is compressed and not an ideal training plan but is it a dumb idea? The only reason I'm worrying about it now is that I can get a pretty good discount if I sign up by the end of the month. IMHO, if you can do an oly, your can run a half mary. I did my first half mary having never run over 8 miles. You may not run it fast, but you can finish! I'm not looking to blow away my PR but at the same time I'm also not looking to just finish. I'm think I'll have the overall fitness after the oly and if I shift my focus to running I should be able to do well. And by well I mean I can turn in a sold performance and enjoy myself at the same time. What sort of recover time should I expect after the oly? Should I be able to gradually increase my run volume immediately after the race or will I need a little time off? Where are you going on vacation? You should have plenty of fitness to do more than finish. We're going to Italy so there will be plenty of walking and climb church towers but I honestly doubt I'll have a chance run. How would you approach something like this? Should I just skip a week in the training program or pickup were I left off when getting back? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Is it a cruise or a normal vacation. Surely you could queeze in 2-3 30 minute runs. That would be enough to keep most of your fitness. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() BamaDC - 2010-06-17 4:53 PM Is it a cruise or a normal vacation. Surely you could queeze in 2-3 30 minute runs. That would be enough to keep most of your fitness. Regular vacation. If it where a cruise I it would be easy to workout. I was thinking I'd have to stick to whatever program I was following but you're right that it wouldn't take much to maintain. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Talk about blowing up... Finally got the results from Buster Britton (timing chip errors) and here's the results Swim: 6:50 - 6/37AG t1: 3:00 Bike: 41:48 - 13/37AG t2: 1:23 run: 30:40 - 32/37 WOW. Either way, I threw up about mile 2 of the run, finally felt better, but the damage was done at that point. That's depressing... |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() LostSheep - 2010-06-17 5:16 PM Talk about blowing up... Finally got the results from Buster Britton (timing chip errors) and here's the results Swim: 6:50 - 6/37AG t1: 3:00 Bike: 41:48 - 13/37AG t2: 1:23 run: 30:40 - 32/37 WOW. Either way, I threw up about mile 2 of the run, finally felt better, but the damage was done at that point. That's depressing... The heat is just oppressing. I wouldn't sweat the run (seriously). I see a very nice swim and bike split. That T1 split, though... ![]() |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cornfed - 2010-06-17 4:24 PM BamaDC - 2010-06-17 4:53 PM Is it a cruise or a normal vacation. Surely you could queeze in 2-3 30 minute runs. That would be enough to keep most of your fitness. Regular vacation. If it where a cruise I it would be easy to workout. I was thinking I'd have to stick to whatever program I was following but you're right that it wouldn't take much to maintain. Where in Italy are you going? Been before? My wife and I went a bit back and absolutely loved it. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() sand101 - 2010-06-17 11:34 PM All over. We're starting in Milan and working our way down through Tuscany to Rome. We're going with my in-laws. My wife and I have been before but the haven't. cornfed - 2010-06-17 4:24 PM BamaDC - 2010-06-17 4:53 PM Is it a cruise or a normal vacation. Surely you could queeze in 2-3 30 minute runs. That would be enough to keep most of your fitness. Regular vacation. If it where a cruise I it would be easy to workout. I was thinking I'd have to stick to whatever program I was following but you're right that it wouldn't take much to maintain. Where in Italy are you going? Been before? My wife and I went a bit back and absolutely loved it. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cornfed - 2010-06-18 7:19 AM sand101 - 2010-06-17 11:34 PM All over. We're starting in Milan and working our way down through Tuscany to Rome. We're going with my in-laws. My wife and I have been before but the haven't. cornfed - 2010-06-17 4:24 PM BamaDC - 2010-06-17 4:53 PM Is it a cruise or a normal vacation. Surely you could queeze in 2-3 30 minute runs. That would be enough to keep most of your fitness. Regular vacation. If it where a cruise I it would be easy to workout. I was thinking I'd have to stick to whatever program I was following but you're right that it wouldn't take much to maintain. Where in Italy are you going? Been before? My wife and I went a bit back and absolutely loved it. Sounds like a blast, except the in-laws part! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Mark, did a 2 hour ride this morning using infinit for the first time. I think this stuff may be the shiznit. 2 scoops mixed with ice water. took some gels in case I needed something a little extra, but didn't need em. this is the first liquid nutrition that worked for me. Doing about 40 in the morning and gonna go straight Infinit! You tried this stuff? |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm running a 10-miler tomorrow morning. The weather forecast is low 90's, humid and it's in the city so there is a code orange air pollution warning. Great day for a race!! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cornfed - 2010-06-18 8:38 PM I'm running a 10-miler tomorrow morning. The weather forecast is low 90's, humid and it's in the city so there is a code orange air pollution warning. Great day for a race!! Kick some butt. I'm on baby duty tomorrow. Hopefully I can bang out a tempo ride. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() titeloops - 2010-06-18 8:07 PM Mark, did a 2 hour ride this morning using infinit for the first time. I think this stuff may be the shiznit. 2 scoops mixed with ice water. took some gels in case I needed something a little extra, but didn't need em. this is the first liquid nutrition that worked for me. Doing about 40 in the morning and gonna go straight Infinit! You tried this stuff? Cool, I've never heard anything negative about the stuff. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() BamaDC - 2010-06-19 7:41 AM cornfed - 2010-06-18 8:38 PM I'm running a 10-miler tomorrow morning. The weather forecast is low 90's, humid and it's in the city so there is a code orange air pollution warning. Great day for a race!! Kick some butt. I'm on baby duty tomorrow. Hopefully I can bang out a tempo ride. I did! I knocked almost 7 minutes of my PR which was on a flat course (which was rumored to be short) and this was anything but flat. Not only that but knocked almost 25 minutes off of my time from the same race last year! Here's my report. |
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