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2011-10-14 1:52 PM
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mid 60's would be great.  I'm hoping for nothing lower than low 60's.   


2011-10-14 4:34 PM
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thedallasceliac - 2011-10-14 10:23 AM

(I know we're 8 months out, but...)

Anyone think there's a chance we'll be lucky and get mid-60's water temps in 2012? 

IM website says the avg temp is 67* but if you calc the posted temps from the last 5 years, including 2011, it is 61*.  Average for 2007-2010 is 63*.

In 2010 there was no snow in the mountains. There for there was no runoff. 2011 records level snow fall so lots of runoff of very cold water.

This year should be a normal snow fall year but we will have to wait and see. I would think that 59 to 61 water temp. The 67 temp is from the summer time for Lake Coeur d' Alene.

2011-10-17 1:12 PM
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mark.evans - 2011-10-14 4:34 PM
thedallasceliac - 2011-10-14 10:23 AM

(I know we're 8 months out, but...)

Anyone think there's a chance we'll be lucky and get mid-60's water temps in 2012? 

IM website says the avg temp is 67* but if you calc the posted temps from the last 5 years, including 2011, it is 61*.  Average for 2007-2010 is 63*.

In 2010 there was no snow in the mountains. There for there was no runoff. 2011 records level snow fall so lots of runoff of very cold water.

This year should be a normal snow fall year but we will have to wait and see. I would think that 59 to 61 water temp. The 67 temp is from the summer time for Lake Coeur d' Alene.

Well that is quite crafty of WTC to use 67* as the average water temp!

I did just fine in 68* temps a few weeks ago at Redman wearing a sleeveless, so I hope that with full sleeves, 59-61* will feel similar. 

2011-10-17 9:20 PM
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ballyard7 - 2011-09-28 2:50 PM So what does everyone have planned before their "official" IM training plan starts?  I just finished a 50 mile trail run in Wisconsin.  I have a marathon in November and Janurary.  I'm doing the trail double 50k/mary in feburary just after training starts for the IM.  Just trying to fit biking in there somewhere lol.  Anymore races this year for anyone?

I'm doing Ironman Cozumel in less than six weeks.  That will be my first Ironman.  CdA will be my second.  :-)  I only started swimming a few months ago, so I hope to be much better at it by the time that next June gets here.  

I'll do a 70.3 in preparation--probably Rev 3 Knoxville or the Mountain Madness Tri (in GA) on May 6, 2012.  I'll find some other benchmark races to do in there, too, just to keep it interesting, as well as plenty of spring centuries.      

2011-10-21 11:51 AM
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With the talk already regarding water temp I thought i would jump in. My first IM was this years' CdA race and the 2 main things people asked prior to the race were: what size gears to use for the hills and how to deal with the water.

One of the BTers on here said he worked in the med tent at the water start. The OFFICIAL water temp at the start was 54.7 degrees. When I got in town I swam Wed, Thur, and Fri. The water temp was about 58 on Wed. But the last 3 days before the race it was windy and cool which dropped the surface temp of the lake. Ive also seen it listed that a few years back it went from 57 to 61 in the 5 days before the race so its anyones guess really. A high snow pack will certainly affect it. Spokane which is about 30 miles west had a record snowfall year I believe. This years' water temp was the coldest in the 9 year history of IM CdA and still over 2100 people finished. Keep that in mind.

How did I do>?   I live in seattle so I trained in cool water. The lowest was probably 57 or so and gradually increased as CdA got closer so I had some good cool water time in. I used a neoprene cap and 2 swim caps and wax in my ears during the race. I also wore a light base layer under my wetsuit to have a little more 'space' between my skin and the wetsuit. You need to try all that you think might help you to get ready for the 2.4 swim. Its all a mind game and also positioning yourself relative to your swim ability at the start. I went on the far outside about 10 people back. I didnt want to be in the middle of the huge packs for the turns. The turns suck, plain and simple. But you get thru it as well and then get horizontal again and back into a groove.

As it gets closer everyone will be looking at the USGS website that has the water temp listed every hour. I bet that site got more hits in 2 weeks before CdA than the previous year combined. We all were concerned but we got in, dealt with it, and did our best.

Its an Ironman. Its not supposed to be easy

 

 

 

 

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Having spent 25 years training for tri's in New Hampshire I have learned a thing or two about swimming in cold water. The number one thing, and its a bit of a hassle but, bring a thermos of warm water with you to the swim start. Suit up, pour about 1/2 of you water in your suit, and this leads us to part two, get in before the start! The warm water will make it tolerable while your face gets use to the chilly temps. Your initial reaction is to jerk you head out of the water and take a big deep breath in. This will go away as your body acclimates to the temp. After 10 min or so get out and use the rest of the water to warm your hands or put down your suit again if you need it. Do this and you will get off to a good start and then your own body temp will start to take over and you will be comfortable for the rest of swim!

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Out of curiosity, how many of you have a tri bike? I have a road bike with aerobars attached. I don't spend lots of time in the aero position unless it happens to be flat. I have an aero bike frame. Do I need a tri bike?
2011-10-28 4:26 PM
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anandiheart - 2011-10-27 7:06 PM Out of curiosity, how many of you have a tri bike? I have a road bike with aerobars attached. I don't spend lots of time in the aero position unless it happens to be flat. I have an aero bike frame. Do I need a tri bike?

i prefer to ride a tri bike.  getting areo saves a lot of time. 

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I have a tri bike. That's all I have. If I had a road bike that would probably my only bike. Do you NEED a tri bike? I would say no. Is it beneficial? Yes it is. This course is not going to be very technical so my advice would be to get comfortable being aero. There shouldn't be to many times you have to come out of the aero position.
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I will ride my Tri bike. I've raced a 70.3 with a road bike w/aero bars, though...it was great. I'm just more comfortable on my Tri bike now. I imagine you'll see both out on the course.
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anandiheart - 2011-10-27 6:06 PM Out of curiosity, how many of you have a tri bike? I have a road bike with aerobars attached. I don't spend lots of time in the aero position unless it happens to be flat. I have an aero bike frame. Do I need a tri bike?

I have a road bike with aero bars.  I tentatively planned on getting a tri bike early this coming spring, but I'm second thinking that.  I like my roadie and I am very comfortable on it so I'm not sure I'll make the switch before CdA.



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thedallasceliac - 2011-10-31 4:23 PM

anandiheart - 2011-10-27 6:06 PM Out of curiosity, how many of you have a tri bike? I have a road bike with aerobars attached. I don't spend lots of time in the aero position unless it happens to be flat. I have an aero bike frame. Do I need a tri bike?

I have a road bike with aero bars.  I tentatively planned on getting a tri bike early this coming spring, but I'm second thinking that.  I like my roadie and I am very comfortable on it so I'm not sure I'll make the switch before CdA.

Once you go tri bike you'll never go back lol.
2011-10-31 7:23 PM
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I just rode a road bike 112 at B2B, I'll have a Tri=Bike for CDA...In unofficial testing It is pretty big time saver
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ballyard7 - 2011-10-31 5:19 PM
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anandiheart - 2011-10-27 6:06 PM Out of curiosity, how many of you have a tri bike? I have a road bike with aerobars attached. I don't spend lots of time in the aero position unless it happens to be flat. I have an aero bike frame. Do I need a tri bike?

I have a road bike with aero bars.  I tentatively planned on getting a tri bike early this coming spring, but I'm second thinking that.  I like my roadie and I am very comfortable on it so I'm not sure I'll make the switch before CdA.

Once you go tri bike you'll never go back lol.

Yeah I think that's probably true.    I definitely will be buying one, just not sure it'll be in time for CdA.  

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I hope to have the money together by IM cda for a tri bike.

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I rode a tri-bike at IM St. George in 2010.  Very comfortable although I am not sure if it saved any time going up the hills.  I definitely could have gone "up" faster on my road bike as it is lighter and just climbs really well.

I plan on riding a tri bike next June. 

 



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mark.evans - 2011-11-01 12:50 PM

I hope to have the money together by IM cda for a tri bike.

Probably obvious, but if you choose to get a tri bike for the race, make sure you give yourself plenty of time to get acclimated to it beforehand.  Even on one that fits well, it definitely takes some getting used to.  For me, it felt like it worked my leg muscles slightly differently and my neck had to get used to the different position.

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Are you all doing any "tune up" races next spring?  My plan (Fink's IronFit) calls for an olympic the last weekend in March and a half the last weekend in April.  

There aren't any races around here that are more than pool-swim sprints during that time frame, so unless I want to travel overnight for Galveston (4-1, so too early per the plan for a half) or New Orleans (4-22), I may just have to simulate a race on my own.

That, or there is a race (1 mile swim, 40 mile bike, 9 mile run) on 5-20.  I think that may be a little too close to CdA, though.  

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Patrick E - 2011-11-01 10:56 AM
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I hope to have the money together by IM cda for a tri bike.

Probably obvious, but if you choose to get a tri bike for the race, make sure you give yourself plenty of time to get acclimated to it beforehand.  Even on one that fits well, it definitely takes some getting used to.  For me, it felt like it worked my leg muscles slightly differently and my neck had to get used to the different position.

I thought about that and I won't buy if there is not some time to get acclimated. Thank for having my back.

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In the past I've done an Olympic 4 weeks out. It's worked well for me. This year I'm looking at doing Boise 70.3 3 weeks out. I wouldnt reccomend it for most, but it may work out perfect for me. 3 weeks is enough for me to recover but it's close. I'll wait and see how I feel as the spring progresses.
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I'm utilizing the Be Iron Fit training as well and I'm in the same boat when it comes to finding Olympic or Half Iron distances to use as training.  Apparently no one wants to do triathlons when it is raining and cold.  Go figure.  I am going to simulate the races on my own.


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thedallasceliac - 2011-11-01 3:40 PM

Are you all doing any "tune up" races next spring?  My plan (Fink's IronFit) calls for an olympic the last weekend in March and a half the last weekend in April.  

There aren't any races around here that are more than pool-swim sprints during that time frame, so unless I want to travel overnight for Galveston (4-1, so too early per the plan for a half) or New Orleans (4-22), I may just have to simulate a race on my own.

That, or there is a race (1 mile swim, 40 mile bike, 9 mile run) on 5-20.  I think that may be a little too close to CdA, though.  

 

I plan to simulate my own half-ironman sometime in May.  We could all simulate on the same day and compare experiences/lessons learned/heartbreaks/successes? 

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I'm planning on doing the Ocala, FL HITS series Half in late March.  First swim with the gators...trying not to think about it.
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pmruns - 2011-11-02 10:49 AM I'm planning on doing the Ocala, FL HITS series Half in late March.  First swim with the gators...trying not to think about it.

Gators only bite if you swim with a "rat" dog.   

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pmruns - 2011-11-02 10:49 AM I'm planning on doing the Ocala, FL HITS series Half in late March.  First swim with the gators...trying not to think about it.

Gators only bite if you swim with a "rat" dog.   

 

Noted...leaving rat dogs at home.  Smile

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