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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey Everyone! While I enjoyed the last couple of weeks that I had off, I'm looking forward to getting back into my fitness routine. I failed to drag my butt out of bed this morning...the sub freezing temps might have had something to do with my lack of motivation but that just means that I'll need to do it when I get home from work, in the dark, temp around 20 degree's...just need to bundle up and go to my happy mental place! Hope you all are having a great day! |
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New user![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KansasMom - 2012-01-03 8:34 AM cdban66 - 2012-01-03 6:25 AM fgholloway - 2012-01-02 1:20 AM I'd have to agree with Jenny on this. Run more, mostly slow, sometimes hard. Scout7 had a great blog about this a while back, I'll hunt it down when I get home. Build your base slowly or you'll be risking injury. There are some good resources available to runners, you may want to look at the forums on runningahead. Or runnersworld is another that may be helpful. Good luck. Remember, hard work, and patience are your best allies in this journey.As I find myself in the middle of some lackluster training for my HM at the end of February, I wonder....how can I get myself to run faster than a 9 minute mile? I think I could be pretty competitive if I could consistently hold an 8 mm pace. Run less but run faster? Just go run splits at the track? Suggestions? I agree with this advice, as well. As I've been building mileage at a slow, easy pace, my racing pace has increased, even without speed work. I know it's hard to be patient, but I think it takes time to build up strength in our legs. For me, endurance needs to come first -- then I'll worry about speed.
Well, to clarify first, my comment about wanting to be closer to an 8 MM was not a goal for the HM at the end of February. It was more of a thought for summer race season. For the HM I would be content with a consistent 9:15 pace - which I think I can do. This sounds brash - but my frustration with my running stems not from a lack of ability, but from a lack of being able to think outside the box. My logs don't reflect, but I actually think I have a decent base. I just feel like I only go out and do the "long and slow" type of running. I figure myself to be kind of a running idiot. I have this nagging little thought that the only way I am going to get faster is to get a buddy, or a coach, who can <i>tell</i> me how to get faster. I read stuff about running splits at a certain pace, or "fartleks" and instantly my brain gets fuzzy...like the concept is just beyond my comprehension. But really, it's probably just laziness. It always comes down to what training I can get the most out of, with the short amount of time I can dedicate to the cause. And so instead of sitting down and planning a running workout that could potentially help increase my speed, and then going to a track with a watch, I throw on the headphones with the Nike+ app, and try to just go out and run my long and slows, at a decent pace. Don't gripe about what you're not willing to change, right? I do know that for right now, my focus is on building my mileage back up to the HM distance. With my schedule, I need to keep focused on that right now. Thanks for the help and feedback. I will be sure to check out the links! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() crimsont - 2012-01-03 8:52 AM Skitri, I am also doing the Rev3 half at Quassy this year. For a HM, you might want to check out the Danbury HM on April 1 --(http://www.halfmarathons.net/usa_half_marathons_connecticut_greater_danbury_half_marathon.html). I haven't done it before, but I believe a few people in my office have done it and are doing it again this year. Thanks so much! This looks perfect...about 90 minutes away and a 10am start time!! |
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New user![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ok, new question for you all. My goal and my plan for this summer is to complete a HIM. So I've been researching to try and find which one I want to do. I'm kicking around Lake Stevens 70.3.... This is an actual "Ironman" brand event. So here's my question - the entry is $250...which is not cheap. Is it worth it? I mean, I get that it would be cool to do an actual "branded" event...but that's a lot for one race. I'm almost certain I can find a non IM brand event for significantly cheaper... I don't think anyone else in this group is from Washington, so I won't ask about other local races...but your thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jsnowash - 2012-01-03 11:52 AM Got a short run in this morning and am planning to hit the trainer later in the day. In other news, I started work on my personal trainer certification today.... I'm hoping I can finish it up with about 6-8 weeks. It's a lot of information to cover, but if I can commit an hour or two each day to work on it, I think I can get through it reasonably quickly. That is cool, I wish you the best. I'd love to hear how it was when you are finished. What is the impetus for the certification? |
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Member![]() ![]() | ![]() fgholloway - 2012-01-03 11:39 AM This sounds brash - but my frustration with my running stems not from a lack of ability, but from a lack of being able to think outside the box. My logs don't reflect, but I actually think I have a decent base. I just feel like I only go out and do the "long and slow" type of running. If you feel like you have a good base, my suggestion to get over the constant running pace hump is to run intervals. I was in the same place you were, and doing interval running got me to recognize how it feels to run faster and that my body could handle running faster. I wanted to improve my pace by about 30 seconds/mile so I started doing intervals at my target pace for a minute and then slowing back down to slightly slower than my normal comfortable pace (I use a GPS watch to track my pace). I repeated that throughout the run and then slowly started increasing the length of my intervals at the target pace and shortening the time spent at the normal comfortable pace. Like others have said though, be careful about injuring yourself by going too hard too quick. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() fgholloway - 2012-01-03 11:39 AM KansasMom - 2012-01-03 8:34 AM cdban66 - 2012-01-03 6:25 AM fgholloway - 2012-01-02 1:20 AM I'd have to agree with Jenny on this. Run more, mostly slow, sometimes hard. Scout7 had a great blog about this a while back, I'll hunt it down when I get home. Build your base slowly or you'll be risking injury. There are some good resources available to runners, you may want to look at the forums on runningahead. Or runnersworld is another that may be helpful. Good luck. Remember, hard work, and patience are your best allies in this journey.As I find myself in the middle of some lackluster training for my HM at the end of February, I wonder....how can I get myself to run faster than a 9 minute mile? I think I could be pretty competitive if I could consistently hold an 8 mm pace. Run less but run faster? Just go run splits at the track? Suggestions? I agree with this advice, as well. As I've been building mileage at a slow, easy pace, my racing pace has increased, even without speed work. I know it's hard to be patient, but I think it takes time to build up strength in our legs. For me, endurance needs to come first -- then I'll worry about speed.
Well, to clarify first, my comment about wanting to be closer to an 8 MM was not a goal for the HM at the end of February. It was more of a thought for summer race season. For the HM I would be content with a consistent 9:15 pace - which I think I can do. This sounds brash - but my frustration with my running stems not from a lack of ability, but from a lack of being able to think outside the box. My logs don't reflect, but I actually think I have a decent base. I just feel like I only go out and do the "long and slow" type of running. I figure myself to be kind of a running idiot. I have this nagging little thought that the only way I am going to get faster is to get a buddy, or a coach, who can tell me how to get faster. I read stuff about running splits at a certain pace, or "fartleks" and instantly my brain gets fuzzy...like the concept is just beyond my comprehension. But really, it's probably just laziness. It always comes down to what training I can get the most out of, with the short amount of time I can dedicate to the cause. And so instead of sitting down and planning a running workout that could potentially help increase my speed, and then going to a track with a watch, I throw on the headphones with the Nike+ app, and try to just go out and run my long and slows, at a decent pace. Don't gripe about what you're not willing to change, right? I do know that for right now, my focus is on building my mileage back up to the HM distance. With my schedule, I need to keep focused on that right now. Thanks for the help and feedback. I will be sure to check out the links! Oh, I totally understand. You are already in a much better place than I am, but I still understand the frustration. I have also wondered about a running coach -- even just someone to look at my stride and see if I am totally off. It's possible, for all I know, that I could change one little thing and increase my speed. I have started throwing in a little fartlek work, but my base is still not that great, so I need to be careful with it. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() fgholloway - 2012-01-03 1:00 PM Ok, new question for you all. My goal and my plan for this summer is to complete a HIM. So I've been researching to try and find which one I want to do. I'm kicking around Lake Stevens 70.3.... This is an actual "Ironman" brand event. So here's my question - the entry is $250...which is not cheap. Is it worth it? I mean, I get that it would be cool to do an actual "branded" event...but that's a lot for one race. I'm almost certain I can find a non IM brand event for significantly cheaper... I don't think anyone else in this group is from Washington, so I won't ask about other local races...but your thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks! I guess it depends a bit on what you like in a race.... The IM branded races will have a larger field than most, which can be nice - I've found myself feeling a little lonely and less likely to push myself in races where the field is smaller and more spread out and I don't have many other people around.... On the other hand, smaller races can be easier logistically - often you can do the packet pick up on the same day, etc. You can find a pretty good listing of half-iron distance races here: http://www.trifind.com/iron-h.html. It can also be helpful to check out race reports for races you're considering - you can get a good idea of what is good and bad about individual events that way. You might also consider asking for opinions in the Washington State forum. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() crimsont - 2012-01-03 1:42 PM fgholloway - 2012-01-03 11:39 AM This sounds brash - but my frustration with my running stems not from a lack of ability, but from a lack of being able to think outside the box. My logs don't reflect, but I actually think I have a decent base. I just feel like I only go out and do the "long and slow" type of running. If you feel like you have a good base, my suggestion to get over the constant running pace hump is to run intervals. I was in the same place you were, and doing interval running got me to recognize how it feels to run faster and that my body could handle running faster. I wanted to improve my pace by about 30 seconds/mile so I started doing intervals at my target pace for a minute and then slowing back down to slightly slower than my normal comfortable pace (I use a GPS watch to track my pace). I repeated that throughout the run and then slowly started increasing the length of my intervals at the target pace and shortening the time spent at the normal comfortable pace. Like others have said though, be careful about injuring yourself by going too hard too quick. I would just add that I would consider a "decent base" for beginning interval training to be at least a couple months of 20+ miles per week, and that IMO introducing intervals is best done gradually. Fartleks are an easy way to start - Fartleks are nothing more than unstructured bursts of speed here and there during your run. It can be as simple as looking down the road and saying to yourself "I'm going to run a little faster between the next to light poles" or "from here to that mailbox" or whatever. If you're running on a treadmill, you can play little games like increasing the speed by a few 10ths of an mph for some period of time (2 minutes, 5 minutes, 10 minutes) then dropping back to an easier pace. You can do the same thing by distance on the treadmill - increase the pace for a few 10ths of a mile, drop back and recover, repeat.... Once you get the hang of that, you can start to think about longer more structured intervals at specific paces. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cdban66 - 2012-01-03 1:32 PM jsnowash - 2012-01-03 11:52 AM Got a short run in this morning and am planning to hit the trainer later in the day. In other news, I started work on my personal trainer certification today.... I'm hoping I can finish it up with about 6-8 weeks. It's a lot of information to cover, but if I can commit an hour or two each day to work on it, I think I can get through it reasonably quickly. That is cool, I wish you the best. I'd love to hear how it was when you are finished. What is the impetus for the certification? Part of my long-range master plan..... First comes the PT certification (on top of my Indoor Cycling cert), then I will work on a Triathlon and Cycling coach certifications, and hopefully beginning to do a little bit of coaching. My goal is to try and open an independent indoor cycling/fitness studio sometime next fall. I'm thinking I can combine the coaching "business" with the indoor cycling business.... Thinking I may sponsor a team/club, etc. There's definitely a niche to be filled for that kind of thing in my area. It's a little scary, but exciting at the same time! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Scheduled for a 4 mile run and its 19 degrees BEFORE factoring the wind chill. It has been windy all day. I don't want to go but I am afraid I may slack off the treadmill if I don't. But it's so cold!! |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lovey - 2012-01-03 5:07 PM Scheduled for a 4 mile run and its 19 degrees BEFORE factoring the wind chill. It has been windy all day. I don't want to go but I am afraid I may slack off the treadmill if I don't. But it's so cold!! I'm headed home and schedule for a 5 miler tonight...it's 23 degree's. I don't want to do it either...but I will if you do too! Come on girl! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() You all are tough and I'm impressed! I went out for a 6-miler at midday, when it was a balmy 29 and breezy, but I only made it 4. Sigh.Go get 'Em! |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kweber1976 - 2012-01-03 5:11 PM Lovey - 2012-01-03 5:07 PM Scheduled for a 4 mile run and its 19 degrees BEFORE factoring the wind chill. It has been windy all day. I don't want to go but I am afraid I may slack off the treadmill if I don't. But it's so cold!! I'm headed home and schedule for a 5 miler tonight...it's 23 degree's. I don't want to do it either...but I will if you do too! Come on girl! Yep - sometimes it's hard to get yourself out the door when it's chilly out - but usually once I get going, I actually really enjoy running in that kind of weather - MUCH more than I like running in HOT weather!!! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jsnowash - 2012-01-03 6:23 PM kweber1976 - 2012-01-03 5:11 PM Lovey - 2012-01-03 5:07 PM Scheduled for a 4 mile run and its 19 degrees BEFORE factoring the wind chill. It has been windy all day. I don't want to go but I am afraid I may slack off the treadmill if I don't. But it's so cold!! I'm headed home and schedule for a 5 miler tonight...it's 23 degree's. I don't want to do it either...but I will if you do too! Come on girl! Yep - sometimes it's hard to get yourself out the door when it's chilly out - but usually once I get going, I actually really enjoy running in that kind of weather - MUCH more than I like running in HOT weather!!! Agreed, cold running is better than HOT running. Tomorrow morning is supposed to be sub freezing. I'm in if you all are! And that is going a stretch for this Florida boy. So here is the plan, 5:00 am, and 3 miles of fun in the 31* temps. I'll let you know how it goes. Edited by cdban66 2012-01-03 6:04 PM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kweber1976 - 2012-01-03 4:11 PM Lovey - 2012-01-03 5:07 PM Scheduled for a 4 mile run and its 19 degrees BEFORE factoring the wind chill. It has been windy all day. I don't want to go but I am afraid I may slack off the treadmill if I don't. But it's so cold!! I'm headed home and schedule for a 5 miler tonight...it's 23 degree's. I don't want to do it either...but I will if you do too! Come on girl!Good for you two. I would love to join you, but I'm still trying to cough up a lung, so I'm going to try another 30 minute very light session on the trainer this evening. I miss running. It's making me very sad. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I made it, well 3.7 miles of it. It was a slow 15 minute mile but with consistency I will get faster. When I stopped running late spring/early summer due to injury, I had a 12 min pace. I am hoping by Spring I can get it back. BUT this time i made a pact with my running partner that we will ease back in slowly to avoid injury. It was cold but felt ok after I warmed up. I hope everyone got their planned workout in. I am hoping i can drag myselt out of bed for a 5:30am spin class. Edited by Lovey 2012-01-04 10:38 AM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hi guys! Sorry I have been a bit MIA. I promise to be around more now that the holidays are over, and the kids are back in school. I realized that I have my log settings so that only those on my friends list can see my logs (I think--that's how it should be, LOL, so if you could see my logs before today, please let me know!) But tonight I added every one of you to my list, so it should be visible now. Not that there's much there to see at the moment. But I'm working on that too. I'll stop back by and catch up on the last 3-ish pages tomorrow. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KansasMom - 2012-01-03 7:39 PM kweber1976 - 2012-01-03 4:11 PM Lovey - 2012-01-03 5:07 PM Scheduled for a 4 mile run and its 19 degrees BEFORE factoring the wind chill. It has been windy all day. I don't want to go but I am afraid I may slack off the treadmill if I don't. But it's so cold!! I'm headed home and schedule for a 5 miler tonight...it's 23 degree's. I don't want to do it either...but I will if you do too! Come on girl!Good for you two. I would love to join you, but I'm still trying to cough up a lung, so I'm going to try another 30 minute very light session on the trainer this evening. I miss running. It's making me very sad. Bummer ![]() Edited by jsnowash 2012-01-04 5:40 AM |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lovey - 2012-01-03 9:35 PM I made it, well 3.7 miles of it. It was a slow 15 minute mile but with consistent I will get faster. When I stopped running late spring/early summer due to injury, I had a 12 min pace. I am hoping by Spring I can get it back. BUT this time i made a pact with my running partner that we will ease back in slowly to avoid injury. It was cold but felt ok after I warmed up. I hope everyone got their planned workout in. I am hoping i can drag myselt out of bed for a 5:30am spin class. Good job! Easing your way back in sounds like a good plan! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Good morning, it was a brisk 32* when I headed out this morning, bundled up a bit. It felt good once I got moving though, but that is always the case. It takes about 5 minutes or so to get the blood moving pretty well. I don't know how you guys in the cold do it, but if you are out running in the freezing weather, my hat is off to you! I like the cold, but some things are just a bit over the line. Then again, this sport may be a bit over the line as well, LOL. Have a great day! |
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Member![]() ![]() | ![]() Sub-zero wind chill here today. Planned 5 mile run at lunch. I think I need to just "will" myself to warm up -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpKXE2lm4t0 Easier trainer ride planned tonight -- thankfully it's not the 6x4 from the Jorge plan on Monday. That one was downright brutal. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Good morning! I have a treadmill run planned for tonight. I have to take my 9YO to karate, so I'll hit the treadmill for that time. I'm on track to meet my goals for the week! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() fgholloway - 2012-01-03 1:00 PM Ok, new question for you all. My goal and my plan for this summer is to complete a HIM. So I've been researching to try and find which one I want to do. I'm kicking around Lake Stevens 70.3.... This is an actual "Ironman" brand event. So here's my question - the entry is $250...which is not cheap. Is it worth it? I mean, I get that it would be cool to do an actual "branded" event...but that's a lot for one race. I'm almost certain I can find a non IM brand event for significantly cheaper... I don't think anyone else in this group is from Washington, so I won't ask about other local races...but your thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks! Races aren't getting any cheaper...you may be able to find some independent ones for around $200. I agree with Jenny's post about a bigger field, something being around so many makes me push harder as oppose to being alone..I hate that feeling! But I know a lot of people who really hate the crowds and do better with a smaller field. Also most of the time you'll have better on course support with one that's a bigger name sponsor. I'd check out other people's race reports. Don't know exactly your local in WA, but you may want to check out REV3 Portland..heard good things about that race and they throw a heck of a party and IMO much better with the SWAG (cause isn't that what we do this for??) and support than Ironman. I've done both Ironman and REV3 and REV3 does everything just a bit better. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jsnowash - 2012-01-03 2:52 PM Part of my long-range master plan..... First comes the PT certification (on top of my Indoor Cycling cert), then I will work on a Triathlon and Cycling coach certifications, and hopefully beginning to do a little bit of coaching. My goal is to try and open an independent indoor cycling/fitness studio sometime next fall. I'm thinking I can combine the coaching "business" with the indoor cycling business.... Thinking I may sponsor a team/club, etc. There's definitely a niche to be filled for that kind of thing in my area. It's a little scary, but exciting at the same time! WOW! Very jealous. Sounds very exciting and motivating. I've spent 8 years out of work (a couple coaching positions-Rowing and now volunteer ski instructor) and I have no idea what I want to do career-wise, except something active. Looking forward to hearing your progress in 2012. Off to the trainer...long easy spin today! |
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