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Swam for 30 minutes today.  Getting stronger.  


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kengood - 2012-01-10 4:53 PM I got the added calcium because I have not been getting enough.

 

Okay, good reason. but how do you know you are not getting enough? Increase you green leafy vegetables, fruit... dried fish, nuts etc;. Of all the things I would think you would lack, I am surprised you pick calcium. Please understand I am not criticising you. I am just really curious... I had a quick look and found this, http://www.healthlinkbc.ca/healthfiles/hfile68e.stm . 

The only additives I use that are not 'natural' are protien powder and then I make sure it's not soya. Soya is genetically modified, and if not, it's created by man.. I have heard too many rumours about the changes it makes to your body to take it. So I use dairy and egg protien. While I am allergic to eggs, egg protien seems to have no bad effects. The protien I only take one month in 3. Otherwise I am poisoning myself and I stink... 

Be careful about pills and additives and make sure first of all your diet is giving you what you need. Then your sport will perhaps call for additives.... I am kinda chuffed you dropped the Sunny D though.. well done.. I feel I just changed the world hahaha.

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kengood - 2012-01-10 4:53 PM I got the added calcium because I have not been getting enough.

 

Okay, good reason. but how do you know you are not getting enough? Increase you green leafy vegetables, fruit... dried fish, nuts etc;. Of all the things I would think you would lack, I am surprised you pick calcium. Please understand I am not criticising you. I am just really curious... I had a quick look and found this, http://www.healthlinkbc.ca/healthfiles/hfile68e.stm . 

That's a good article Colli.... I thought I was doing pretty good at my numbers but according to the tables in that article, I'm way off!  Thanks for sharing.

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I've decided to go in a different direction regarding the Mentor Groups; therefore I will be withdrawing from this forum.  Pleasure meeting you all and wish you success in your endeavors.

2012-01-11 8:33 PM
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Good luck Jeff. Has anyone seen our mentor/leader Chris?
2012-01-12 8:10 AM
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Guys and gals, sorry I have been out of pocket. My laptop crashed. Can't get on BT at work. I am now on the mobile BT on my Blackberry. Back in the saddle. Traveling this weekend, but I will be monitoring the forum. My training really got screwed up. So, questions today? What about race specific questions? Race or workout apparrel questions? Anything?


2012-01-12 8:20 AM
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I was traveling all day yesterday.  This seems to be the hardest tme for me to keep up with my diet. In the past when I traveled, I would start the day at McDonalds, have lunch at What a Burger and have dinner at Jack in the Box.  Yesterday, I managed to stay away from all those places, but really just ended up not eating.  What do you all do when you travel?
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Well, it can be tough. I try to find the healthiest options I can. For breakfast, I'll try to eat from the hotel if they provide a good breakfast choice. For lunch, I'll get a Subway for lunch or a salad at a deli, if possible. If I can I will bring some good snacks, like nuts, natural food bars, etc.... But, in the grand scheme of things, even though there are healthier food choices I feel like its about calories consumed vs. calories burned. I know there are good foods and bad foods, but if my hamburger is 450 calories and I've budgeted 500 calories for lunch, then that is what my lunch consists of. Then I try to get my workout in. At least a a run. Any burn is better than no burn.
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I'm not sure how normal this is to everyone else, but since I started training back in November, I've noticed that my legs are sore almost every day.  Not sore to the point where it is tiresome to walk or stand, but I can tell they have been putting in some hard work everyday.  They are especially tight in the morning, but after I stretch and get them moving on the bike or in the pool, they are fine.  Could be that I only have one day where I'm not working them out, but that's not really true because they are kicking in the pool.  Are ice baths necessary at this point in training(maybe once a week)? What else can anyone recommend besides massage and/or a jacuzzi?

OH, and one other question. As a year round swimmer in my past I understood the benifits of shaving my legs, but I'm not sure why cyclists and triathaletes shave their legs. 

2012-01-12 9:06 PM
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brenyer - 2012-01-12 7:52 PM

I'm not sure how normal this is to everyone else, but since I started training back in November, I've noticed that my legs are sore almost every day.  Not sore to the point where it is tiresome to walk or stand, but I can tell they have been putting in some hard work everyday.  They are especially tight in the morning, but after I stretch and get them moving on the bike or in the pool, they are fine.  Could be that I only have one day where I'm not working them out, but that's not really true because they are kicking in the pool.  Are ice baths necessary at this point in training(maybe once a week)? What else can anyone recommend besides massage and/or a jacuzzi?

OH, and one other question. As a year round swimmer in my past I understood the benifits of shaving my legs, but I'm not sure why cyclists and triathaletes shave their legs. 

you need true recovery days put into your training. You will gain more faster with those true recovery days than by training every day. swimming is still training.

 I, myself, shave my legs because they look better

2012-01-12 9:21 PM
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I pretty much have the same question about workout days. My workouts include (each week) 3 swims, 3 runs, 3 bike workouts, and 3 weight training sessions. My day off is supposed to be Friday. This week is a good example of being exhausted and sore on Tuesday night so I took off from weights on wednesday morning and pushed the weights to Thursday. I still did my run Wednesday night but then had to miss swim thursday for work. Inevitably, I have to push workouts to my day off. Should I skip workouts here and there or just find a way to get them all in? I am trying to listen to the body and not overdo it and get injured but I know I need to push a little to get where I want to be by May.

No shaving for me until I go professional and that ain't happenin'



2012-01-13 12:00 AM
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brenyer - 2012-01-12 7:52 PM

I'm not sure how normal this is to everyone else, but since I started training back in November, I've noticed that my legs are sore almost every day.  Not sore to the point where it is tiresome to walk or stand, but I can tell they have been putting in some hard work everyday.  They are especially tight in the morning, but after I stretch and get them moving on the bike or in the pool, they are fine.  Could be that I only have one day where I'm not working them out, but that's not really true because they are kicking in the pool.  Are ice baths necessary at this point in training(maybe once a week)? What else can anyone recommend besides massage and/or a jacuzzi?

OH, and one other question. As a year round swimmer in my past I understood the benifits of shaving my legs, but I'm not sure why cyclists and triathaletes shave their legs. 

you need true recovery days put into your training. You will gain more faster with those true recovery days than by training every day. swimming is still training.

 I, myself, shave my legs because they look better

LOL, I would hope you shaved your legs :-)

I was taking one day off per week for about a month, but the legs still felt the same.  I know I "should" take a day off, but then my run suffers with only two training days per week. What's a person to do?!

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brenyer - 2012-01-13 3:52 AM

I'm not sure how normal this is to everyone else, but since I started training back in November, I've noticed that my legs are sore almost every day.  Not sore to the point where it is tiresome to walk or stand, but I can tell they have been putting in some hard work everyday.  They are especially tight in the morning, but after I stretch and get them moving on the bike or in the pool, they are fine.  Could be that I only have one day where I'm not working them out, but that's not really true because they are kicking in the pool.  Are ice baths necessary at this point in training(maybe once a week)? What else can anyone recommend besides massage and/or a jacuzzi?

OH, and one other question. As a year round swimmer in my past I understood the benifits of shaving my legs, but I'm not sure why cyclists and triathaletes shave their legs. 

 

Make sure your fluid intake is good. I mean really good, we are talking 3 liters a day good, cut out caffine and refined sugars, try skipping wheat products.. There are lot of things that can contribute to pain, but in my book it's a good sign.. but you need rest days. Rest days are when the muscle actually builds up and gets stronger. 

As for the shaving cyclists.... 1) looks good 2 ) feels good 3) when you crash you don't those hairs in the road rash.... 

2012-01-13 12:54 PM
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brenyer - 2012-01-12 7:52 PM

I'm not sure how normal this is to everyone else, but since I started training back in November, I've noticed that my legs are sore almost every day.  Not sore to the point where it is tiresome to walk or stand, but I can tell they have been putting in some hard work everyday.  They are especially tight in the morning, but after I stretch and get them moving on the bike or in the pool, they are fine.  Could be that I only have one day where I'm not working them out, but that's not really true because they are kicking in the pool.  Are ice baths necessary at this point in training(maybe once a week)? What else can anyone recommend besides massage and/or a jacuzzi?

OH, and one other question. As a year round swimmer in my past I understood the benifits of shaving my legs, but I'm not sure why cyclists and triathaletes shave their legs. 

you need true recovery days put into your training. You will gain more faster with those true recovery days than by training every day. swimming is still training.

 I, myself, shave my legs because they look better

LOL, I would hope you shaved your legs :-)

I was taking one day off per week for about a month, but the legs still felt the same.  I know I "should" take a day off, but then my run suffers with only two training days per week. What's a person to do?!

maybe look at your volume and back it off for a little bit. You may have built up to quickly. If your legs are feeling that dead, you are risking injury and then you will have to take a lot more time off. Tweek you training so that you leave it all out there on some training and go easier on other days. AND TAKE THE DAY OFF to rest when you need to. If not a day a week then a day every nine days or so.
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This week's training has had some highs and lows.  I have a pain deep inside my hip, almost like sciatica but not consistently in that spot.  The run seems to irritate the pain so Tuesday was HORRIBLE!  Walked most of it, and the hill I conquered the previous week killed me and I walked more than half. Wednesday was a bike day on the trainer and it worked out fine.  Last night, on the treadmill and the pain reared its ugly head once again.  Day off from training today and my weekend is filled with bike and swim.  Hopefully, a full three days off the run will help.

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SportzVision - 2012-01-13 8:29 PM

This week's training has had some highs and lows.  I have a pain deep inside my hip, almost like sciatica but not consistently in that spot.  The run seems to irritate the pain so Tuesday was HORRIBLE!  Walked most of it, and the hill I conquered the previous week killed me and I walked more than half. Wednesday was a bike day on the trainer and it worked out fine.  Last night, on the treadmill and the pain reared its ugly head once again.  Day off from training today and my weekend is filled with bike and swim.  Hopefully, a full three days off the run will help.

Pain is not normal. It's a signal something is wrong. The brain is then supposed to interpret that signal and make the body go to a doc to get checked out, or you could risk severe injury and no sport for a number of months getting into years.



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This week's training has had some highs and lows.  I have a pain deep inside my hip, almost like sciatica but not consistently in that spot.  The run seems to irritate the pain so Tuesday was HORRIBLE!  Walked most of it, and the hill I conquered the previous week killed me and I walked more than half. Wednesday was a bike day on the trainer and it worked out fine.  Last night, on the treadmill and the pain reared its ugly head once again.  Day off from training today and my weekend is filled with bike and swim.  Hopefully, a full three days off the run will help.

Pain is not normal. It's a signal something is wrong. The brain is then supposed to interpret that signal and make the body go to a doc to get checked out, or you could risk severe injury and no sport for a number of months getting into years.

Yeah, I know...BLEH!  No pain today during the swim so after a few days of no running I will see what happens on Monday's run.  If it is still there then I will head over to medical.  Thanks for the input though.

Hey another thing, your description of snapping my wrist down and keeping my fingers pointed to my toes through the entire pull has really helped my swim.  I am not working nearly as hard as previously!  Thanks

Hope your training is going well.

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My two favorite run songs this month...What are yours?

"Waiting for the End to Come" by Linken Park http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qF_qbaWt3Q

"Shake Me Down" By Cage the Elephant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=v27TRan1SBI



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SportzVision - 2012-01-13 8:29 PM

This week's training has had some highs and lows.  I have a pain deep inside my hip, almost like sciatica but not consistently in that spot.  The run seems to irritate the pain so Tuesday was HORRIBLE!  Walked most of it, and the hill I conquered the previous week killed me and I walked more than half. Wednesday was a bike day on the trainer and it worked out fine.  Last night, on the treadmill and the pain reared its ugly head once again.  Day off from training today and my weekend is filled with bike and swim.  Hopefully, a full three days off the run will help.

Pain is not normal. It's a signal something is wrong. The brain is then supposed to interpret that signal and make the body go to a doc to get checked out, or you could risk severe injury and no sport for a number of months getting into years.

Yeah, I know...BLEH!  No pain today during the swim so after a few days of no running I will see what happens on Monday's run.  If it is still there then I will head over to medical.  Thanks for the input though.

Hey another thing, your description of snapping my wrist down and keeping my fingers pointed to my toes through the entire pull has really helped my swim.  I am not working nearly as hard as previously!  Thanks

Hope your training is going well.

What shoes are you running in, what size are your town shoes and what size are your running shoes? Do you stretch? Have you ever had disc problems or been assessed for gait?  

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SportzVision - 2012-01-14 9:59 PM

My two favorite run songs this month...What are yours?

"Waiting for the End to Come" by Linken Park http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qF_qbaWt3Q

"Shake Me Down" By Cage the Elephant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=v27TRan1SBI

my favs right now are  The middle by Jimmy eat world and and Running down a dream by Tom Petty
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Recovery is where you realize the gains of your training. After learning to handle training load and realizing that the muscle tears occur in every training session and the aerobic adaptations occur as you recover and allow the muscles to heal. Take time for rest, both each week and also built into your training. Like build two or three weeks with volume and then recover for a week.


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pain is not normal or good. Soreness maybe, not pain. You should see a doctor if it continues.
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I just found an interesting article in the Feb edition of Triathlete Magazing that addressed my question about soreness of muscles. I'll copy it down for anyone curious about what they had to say....

 "My muscles ache all the time. Is that normal?  Especially at the start of triathlon training, you bet it is. Muscle is connected to bone via tendon. Like a coral reef constantly being made and remade, the tissues of the body, muscle, tendon and bone are always in a state of flux. When loaded over time, through weight training, running, biking or swimming, they build strength. In the case of muscle and tendon, the tensile strength gains take time, often several months. As such, it is perfectly normal to feel a bit like you've been smacked with a 2X4 in the first month or two of training. But if the pain is so bad that it limits your ability to train, it's important to get checked out."

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It was a good day. My Ravens won (ugly as it was) and then I had an intense hour-long workout on the bike trainer. Once again, I get off bike feeling bow-legged, butt soreness and leg stiffness and wonder how I will ever run 6.2 after that. Patience....patience.

For me, so far (knock on wood) no real pain, just soreness and a little tired from all the workouts. I feel like I am pushing myself but also being smart and listening to my body. If I feel I really need to rest and miss a workout, then I do it...haven't had to much though. Definitely feeling the body changes weekly.

Have a great week everyone!

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I had no business going to the grocery store after a 1550 swim!  I was starving! Anyway a decent swim and 90 mins on the trainer today.
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