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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() joeseal - 2008-12-30 9:49 AM At the risk of over training
This is why Yanti and Beth recommended following a training plan. It is (in most cases) prooven to work. Its intent is not only to bring you to a point which you can finish a triathlon or a race, but also how to get there injury free. Rest is always an important part of a training plan. I've seen people (also here on BT) which after reading a lot, and after training for a few years decided to come up with their own training plan. Then, they start following it or just making up a workout "as-it-feels" on a day by day basis - and then guess what? A week or two before their race - they get injured and cannot race... I've seen it happens and decided to learn from their mistakes - I always follow a prooven plan. It just makes my life easier - afterall.
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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() joeseal - 2008-12-30 11:49 AM Thanks to the group and the great inspirational messages. The support given by Beth and Yanti, and the support from the rest of the group is awesome. I will do my very best to earn my spot in this great group of people. Today is a very tough day for me. It seems like panic and anxiety came to visit me in the early AM. At the risk of over training, I will go out for a long ride to help take the edge off the visitor. No worries though, it will be ok. RegardsYou are great, Joel. You already are a part of what makes this group so wonderful--no need to "earn" a spot! Thank you for your honesty and sharing your struggle. I know far more than I care to about overcoming panic and anxiety. You did the right thing--put it out in the open and try to do something constructive about it. I found (at times) that the breathing meditation I mentioned in Mental Training #1 really helped. (At other times it did not, and it was best to try to get busy keeping my mind occupied with something else). But it might be worth a try! All the best and I hope you were able to go for your long ride. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() lastcall2003 - 2008-12-30 7:36 AM Swim Talk Beth, I totally agree with everything you wrote. I also think that joining a masters program is one of the best move one can do. Once you join it, assuming you checked on the coach first, all the other points that Beth wrote will be covered. At least in my experience. I joined a masters program a few months ago. I was hesitant and felt intimidated - specially, as someone who had never formally learned how to swim. I swim in one of the slowest lanes - but don't really care. I improved a lot and it increased my self confidence in the water to the point that I volunteered as a "swim buddy" in a local sprint race. I can't wait to the "Cycling Talk" - as there I need some decent help |
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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ronen - 2008-12-30 3:36 PM joeseal - 2008-12-30 9:49 AM At the risk of over training This is why Yanti and Beth recommended following a training plan. It is (in most cases) prooven to work. Its intent is not only to bring you to a point which you can finish a triathlon or a race, but also how to get there injury free. Rest is always an important part of a training plan. I understand the need sometimes to just go out for that long ride or even run. Sometimes you gotta. The beauty of following a plan, though, is that you count it as part of the plan, and you don't wind up repeating a long ride or run just because you needed to go for one earlier. The other thing about "going long" is that you do it slow and steady. You'll hear a lot around here about LSD, which means Long Steady Distance or Long Slow Distance. The plans are usually pretty clear about it, but in any case, your longest distances of the week are meant to be done at a comfortable pace. Don't increase distance OR intensity too much in any one workout or any weeks' total. |
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TinkerBeth ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Well, Manatees - it's official! It's official! I received this very nice email today
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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Congratulations, Bethie Love! We are all so excited for you! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Yay, Beth!! That's so exciting! |
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TinkerBeth ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks everyone! I'm pretty excited - and a bit nervous Kristin (lazymarathoner) is going to pace me - which will really, really help! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() WOO HOO! Congratulations, Beth!! |
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TinkerBeth ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Inspires what are Inspires? - they are a way to leave a message of inspiration, motivation, a KIA, a simple hello to a fellow manatee - or anyone on BT how to Inspire someone? - click on the link to their training blog - for the manatees, you should be able to do this from the table (I hope how will I know if someone inspires me? - you will see a red number to the right of the 'Inspire Me' link - that shows how many people have stopped by to inspire you - click on the 'Inspire Me' link and enjoy how to reply to an inspire? - this is confusing (sorry marma) - if someone leaves you and inspire and you want them to see the reply - click on 'blog' - if you are using Internet Explorer, it will open 2 new windows and you will be linked to the persons blog and their inspires - you can then find your response and reply - on Mozilla, it opens one window with two tabs and you toggle back and forth between the blog and the inspire window -
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I need some help with a off season training plan. I know you recommend that I follow a 16-20 week structured plan when actually training for a target “date/triathlon”. There are many great programs to chose from for this. Do I just take one of these plans for base training as well? Do I increment distance during base training? At this point I am running 7-10 mile (long run day, biking 30-50 miles (long bike days), and swimming 2400 total. Do I scale this down and increment from here? Or, do I just keep adding distance and time to what I already have? The swim is like kryptonite to me right now, so I am trying to get 5 days a week and just drill, with some long swims here and there. I hope this makes sense. Sorry for all the questions. I am most grateful for the kind words of encouragement from the group this morning. Best wishes! |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Beth, This is great. You will be awesome! Best wishes !!NYRR Manhattan Half-Marathon - January 25th!! |
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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() joeseal - 2008-12-30 5:11 PM I need some help with a off season training plan. I know you recommend that I follow a 16-20 week structured plan when actually training for a target “date/triathlon”. There are many great programs to chose from for this. Do I just take one of these plans for base training as well? Do I increment distance during base training? At this point I am running 7-10 mile (long run day, biking 30-50 miles (long bike days), and swimming 2400 total. Do I scale this down and increment from here? Or, do I just keep adding distance and time to what I already have? The swim is like kryptonite to me right now, so I am trying to get 5 days a week and just drill, with some long swims here and there. I hope this makes sense. Sorry for all the questions. I am most grateful for the kind words of encouragement from the group this morning. Best wishes! You're more than welcome! We love having you as a Manatee and are here to support. The plans include base training, but you are already coming in with a significant base. There are several good plans I could suggest: Olympic 20-weeks Swim Focused Look at these plans and see what kind of training commitment you really feel like you can make over the long haul. There's no reason you can't add in extra swims, but just make sure that these are VERY easy swims, technique-focused ... in other words, make sure your extra swims are like active recovery, that they are very easy and energizing. As for where to begin--you should probably scale back a little bit; it's really wise to do so once in a while and the plans have this built in. You don't need to scale back too much, maybe 2/3 of what you're already doing ... but MAKE SURE that on the "easy" or "rest" weeks (these are every 3rd or 4th week) you scale ALL the way back to what's on the plan. This is especially important as you have a considerable training volume already. The difficulty there can be burnout. Make certain, even as you're following a plan, that if you need a day or two off, take it! That's fine and even necessary! STAY FRESH and EAGER TO TRAIN, and scale back as much as necessary and take time off as much as needed so that you are making the most of when you do train. |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thank you Beth, this is most helpful! Joel |
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TinkerBeth ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ronen - 2008-12-30 4:45 PM lastcall2003 - 2008-12-30 7:36 AM Swim Talk Beth, I totally agree with everything you wrote. I also think that joining a masters program is one of the best move one can do. Once you join it, assuming you checked on the coach first, all the other points that Beth wrote will be covered. At least in my experience. I joined a masters program a few months ago. I was hesitant and felt intimidated - specially, as someone who had never formally learned how to swim. I swim in one of the slowest lanes - but don't really care. I improved a lot and it increased my self confidence in the water to the point that I volunteered as a "swim buddy" in a local sprint race. I can't wait to the "Cycling Talk" - as there I need some decent help Ronen - let's start the Cycling Talk! I can't promise to have the answers, but among us all, I bet we can come up with some really good stuff where should we start? |
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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() lastcall2003 - 2008-12-30 7:05 PM Ronen - 2008-12-30 4:45 PM lastcall2003 - 2008-12-30 7:36 AM Swim Talk Beth, I totally agree with everything you wrote. I also think that joining a masters program is one of the best move one can do. Once you join it, assuming you checked on the coach first, all the other points that Beth wrote will be covered. At least in my experience. I joined a masters program a few months ago. I was hesitant and felt intimidated - specially, as someone who had never formally learned how to swim. I swim in one of the slowest lanes - but don't really care. I improved a lot and it increased my self confidence in the water to the point that I volunteered as a "swim buddy" in a local sprint race. I can't wait to the "Cycling Talk" - as there I need some decent help Ronen - let's start the Cycling Talk! I can't promise to have the answers, but among us all, I bet we can come up with some really good stuff where should we start? Ride Lots. It's deceptively simple, but it's really true. And remember--from Base Training--the more steady/slow you ride, the more you can ride. For beginners and those in base training--that would be most of us--flats are best, but you can include easy rollers or long, gradual inclines. I managed to put in a lot of good volume for my training season last year just by being a cycle commuter--and none of my trips are more than 15 minutes long, even though they all add up over the course of a day and definitely over time. It all counts! And this was "extra" training--this was in addition to training. It's best to follow a plan, but where you might add, make sure you're adding easy and not too much. The nice thing about biking is that it doesn't pound you like running does, so for sure going for an extra 15-minute bike ride several times a week, for example, is not going to tire you out or overtrain you. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Beth and Yanti, and other pod mates- I just want to say Thank You for getting this board off to an awesome start. It stinks that I have to work, I can't wait to sit here and just read, read, read, everything on this thread!! Happy New Year to everyone!! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() nuttysami123 - 2008-12-31 8:18 AM 1) BT2) Training3) Manatees on BT4) Inspiring on BT5) Family6) There is no #6 (Beth can explain this)7) Eating & Sleeping 8) Working...in order to get $$$$ to support Major Tri AddictionGlad to help you get your priorities in order.SteveBeth and Yanti, and other pod mates- I just want to say Thank You for getting this board off to an awesome start. It stinks that I have to work, I can't wait to sit here and just read, read, read, everything on this thread!! Happy New Year to everyone!! Edited by Reno8 2008-12-31 9:12 AM |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() We're almost to 2009, folks! Anyone making any New Year's resolutions? Tri-related or not? I'm not a big fan of resolutions, but I keep thinking of them this year. So far I've got: 1) Do my 20-minute stretch/strength routine every day (so I can keep the ITB problems under control). 2) Get back to drinking only one Coke a day (I'm at two or three right now). I like to keep my resolutions simple. *g* |
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TinkerBeth ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hi Erin Sounds like you have some good resolutions - especially the stretching one I'm not real big on resolutions either - so I haven't really thought of any, if I do, they will be simple, like yours |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hello Erin, I would not call it a resolution, but I want to do at least one TRI 2009, no matter how short the distance, and at least three run races. I also want to get in at least 5 dive trips on the North Coast, which is pretty much just for fun. I trained pretty hard in 2008 and I did not compete. I made excuses as to why I could not make the races. I am very disappointed in myself, but vow to redeem myselfJ |
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TinkerBeth ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() joeseal - 2008-12-31 6:33 PM Hello Erin, I would not call it a resolution, but I want to do at least one TRI 2009, no matter how short the distance, and at least three run races. I also want to get in at least 5 dive trips on the North Coast, which is pretty much just for fun. I trained pretty hard in 2008 and I did not compete. I made excuses as to why I could not make the races. I am very disappointed in myself, but vow to redeem myselfJ Hi Joel many races may already be open for registration - I know the one I have done the past couple of years that is in June is already open you might want to look into it and see if there's a race in your area you could register for - get it on the calendar now (or soon then you will see your dreams start to become reality! |
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