BamaDC's Mentor Group v3.0 - CLOSED (Page 9)

As quoted in the Tri Talk forum:


"The best training method I ever heard of to develop mental toughness was something that Phil Liggett mentioned during last year’s TdF, I think. He said that years ago, there was a pro cycling team coach who, in order to develop mental toughness and the ability for his riders to stay focused on riding for long periods at a time, used to have them ride on a trainer, alone in a room, facing a brick wall for six hours at a time. " 

Apparently, it didn't say anything about the bachelor.

 you obviously haven't seen the show    j/k

but thanks though.  I really just need to buy a case of HTFU at costco I guess 

 I show that is a bunch of hot women trying to top the other women.,,   pretty good entertainment 

I would like to acheive the following in 2011:
1. Race an Olympic sub 2:30
2. Finish my first HIM
3. Stay injury free!!

At least your watching network tv and not those raunchy shows on VH1/cable.

I group of women fighting for the same guy is pretty novel, I'll give you that much.  Frankly, I just don't get the basic premise behind the Bachelorette.  If I want to see a bunch of guys make follows of themselves to get the same one girl I can go to any bar. 

Does the pain come on gradually as running?  Basically you feel fine at the beginning of your run but it starts bothering you half way through?  If so it sound similar to what I had last spring while biking which I self diagnosed as ITBS.  I found some stretches online and was diligent about doing them.  I was able to keep biking at moderate intensity and with the stretches it went away in a couple of weeks.  The stretches/exercises were on you tube but I can't find them right now.  I think I have them book marked on another computer so I'll check.  If I don't post the link in a day or so ping me.

So I'm thinking about designing my own training plan for my half marathon.  I've read Daniels' book and have been looking at several different plans and they're all pretty similar but I can't find one that I like without something I want to tweak. 

Basically what I'm thinking is,

M - easy
T - off
W - tempo
R - easy
F - off
S -  long
S - off

Off days will be swimming and/or biking.  I like using pace zones like Daniels & McMillian so I'll follow those for everything.  Based on what I've read from both of them lactate threshold (hence tempo runs) and the occasionally doing portions of your long run close to your race pace will be important for a HM.  Starting on Monday will give me 10 weeks so I need to figure out my mileage build up.  I'd also need to see how rest/fall back weeks would work.  Obviously I still have some details to work out, but what do you guys think?  Will this be a good learning experience or am I setting myself up for failure?

You know I am a beginner when my 3 goals are:

1. To just cross the finish line at my first tri
2. Remain injury free
3. Not hurt any of my 3 children or my husband in the process of training.

So I have really enjoyed the 2 weeks since this adventure of a tri started. The runs have been harder than I thought though. My knees and feet are just plain sore. No pain but the soreness is keeping me from running more than 2 miles. I run/walk most of the time. I got fitted for some shoes so I wouldn't think that would be the issue......is it typical for feet/knees to be sore even after an easy jog? I am wondering if it's just because of this new activity I am doing on my body, so I am backing it off and building up slowly.

I know my dad has awful knees and figured I inherited this fabulous trait, but now it is really getting in the way.

And for the record, I love the bachelor talk...I know it's like all guys on this board but seriously, the Bachelor is hot and needs to keep his shirt off more...just sayin'

BamaDC
What plan should I use for my HIM training...I did 5 olympic events and 2 sprints last year. I have to put swimming on a hold for a little while longer due to shoulder injury..Target race date 5/14/2011..Thanks

Don't feel bad about your goals.  This is my second season and last year  my goal for my first race was "don't drown".  I didn't care about finishing the whole race, I just wanted to finish the swim.

What kind of knee pain do you have?  Is it during the run or after?

You may want to try shortening your stride, to have your foot land more under your body (less heel striking).  Doing this helped me with pain in my arches from running.

  Chris

You are asking your legs to do a lot.  I imagine you haven't asked your legs to do this for a while, no?  You are going to be sore.  That's ok, as long as the pain is the right kind.  You have to build up a resistance to this type of activity.  Is the pain dull, diffuse pain after running?  Any sharp pains?   Is the pain worse the day after?

What are you doing post run to try and reduce the pain?  Have you tried self massage?  (I love The Stick, BTW).  Ice baths?  Ice baths are easily the best recovery activity I do after a hard run - fill your bath enough to cover your legs with the coldest water your house can deliver.  Soak for 10 minutes.  It sucks, but it works.  My poor testicles hate me, but my legs love me for it.

BTW, I doubt you are gong to see #3 happen.  After all this tri stuff my wife has started running and is doing the 1/2 Marathon with me in a month - she has a shot at breaking 2 hours.  And we just got her a bike.  I doubt she will ever want to do a tri, but she is enjoying the activity.  I think you'll find that you are more likely to be an inspiration to your family than a negative influence.

I will definitely try shortening my stride and doing an ice bath (luckily no testicles to worry about here...lol)/massage.

I just got back from the gym and wanted to walk/run. After 20 minutes I wasn't physically tired but the balls of my feet hurt, my right knee was starting to feel numb, it just didn't feel good. I agree that I am asking a lot of my body (haven't swam in years, haven't biked in forever, but I have run.). I haven't run consistently but could easily pound out a few miles so I thought this part of the workout wouldn't be the hard one.

Could it be my new shoes?? Or is there a break in period for shoes? But knee numbness--is that typical? Uggg...what is wrong with me?

Edited by Crazymama 2011-01-09 6:52 PM

Running can do a number on your knees. It's usually just a matter of getting thru the first several months. You could try NSAIDs. I pop a handful of em from time to time. Just make sure you're not injured. There is a difference between being sore and being injured. Also, running store employees don't always put you in the right shoe.

Sometimes I get a burning feeling (kinda like a friction rub) on the balls of my feet towards the end of a run when I get new shoes.  I would go a way after a while once they got broken in.

Couple of thoughts... 

Welcome to my playground

I ride Oak Mtn weekly. Yes it's tough, but it'll make you better. I've done it on both the road and tri. Climbing the hills is easier on the roadie just because I have smaller gears. However, the speed I get bombing the downhills is pretty fun too... It just takes some practice.

Keep at it and it'll become pretty routine. My goal is to one day run Oak Mtn loop with a minimum speed greater than 10mph. Those hills suck me down to 8ish. I've done it as fast as 18.8mph and would love to bring that up too!

If you ever look at results from Buster Britton, you'll see that the studs run 25+ out there! 

I ride the Powerman course on my Computrainer! Nice ride.

What is "Athlinks"? 

That course is a .  I don't have a pure tri bike, so I can't say whether one is better than another.  I can say, though, that the direction you travel in ensures you will be constantly changing gears and that the downhills are quite technical.  It is very hard to get into a consistent cadence - you are always adjusting.  And the downhills are anything but easy.

If you do Powerman beware that first right hand turn!  It is a sharp right directly after a good downhill.  During Buster Britton there was at least one wreck there (despite the multiple warnings).

Look forward to meeting you before Mercedes! 

A quick update.  No running today due to the ice.  So I searched around the house.  After a month of looking I found my bike!  Turns out it was sitting on my trainer in the basement - who knew.  Repeated Jorge's W2D1.  Managed 4 1' repeats at 310watts and then hit 375 on the last one.  That's 30w better than what I did before I laid off the bike for a month. 

WTF?  Not complaining, but I'm gonna ask Jorge about that one.

Does the pain come on gradually as running?  Basically you feel fine at the beginning of your run but it starts bothering you half way through?  If so it sound similar to what I had last spring while biking which I self diagnosed as ITBS.  I found some stretches online and was diligent about doing them.  I was able to keep biking at moderate intensity and with the stretches it went away in a couple of weeks.  The stretches/exercises were on you tube but I can't find them right now.  I think I have them book marked on another computer so I'll check.  If I don't post the link in a day or so ping me.