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2011-12-22 6:22 AM in reply to: #3949220 |
Pro 4672 Nutmeg State | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED jsklarz - 2011-12-22 5:37 AM Morning all. Trying to clear the decks of big stuff at work today and tomorrow so next week can be relaxing.... I need to log some time logging wow for the past month to get my logs up to date. Maybe I'll sit on a log while I log. Like a run today. Hoping for a garmim 910 for Hanukkah this year. I also need new aero bars. Maybe race wheels too, we'll see. You do not need race wheels. At the Olympic distance it equals maybe a minute. The only way you're going to beat me is to ride more. |
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2011-12-22 7:54 AM in reply to: #3943066 |
Extreme Veteran 3020 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED Speaking of holiday gifts.....what kind of tri goodies are you all going to be buying this year (besides clothes)? Like Jeff, I'm upgrading to the 910 once it's available (when will it be available?). I'm also investing in some shorty aerobars and new cycling shoes. I'm putting some decent $$ into the shoes, because I know they'll last forever. That's about it aside from new tri clothes. I'm sticking with my sleeveless wetsuit for another season, because I hate wetsuits and don't want to fork out the cash for a sleeved one when half of my races are in 100 degree heat. |
2011-12-22 7:55 AM in reply to: #3949073 |
Veteran 446 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED karen26.2 - 2011-12-21 9:40 PM triguy1043 - 2011-12-21 10:38 PM Need feed back
37 year old male Setting Bike HR zones 30 min TT LAst 20 mins Average HR 161 Max HR 172 When I did my bike test last year, I just entered in my average HR for the last 20 minutes. So you would enter in 161, and your zones should calculate from that. I have read that some people prefer to do bike HR tests and some people do run HR tests. Is there a difference in results? |
2011-12-22 7:59 AM in reply to: #3949336 |
Veteran 446 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED jarvy01 - 2011-12-22 7:54 AM Speaking of holiday gifts.....what kind of tri goodies are you all going to be buying this year (besides clothes)? Like Jeff, I'm upgrading to the 910 once it's available (when will it be available?). I'm also investing in some shorty aerobars and new cycling shoes. I'm putting some decent $$ into the shoes, because I know they'll last forever. That's about it aside from new tri clothes. I'm sticking with my sleeveless wetsuit for another season, because I hate wetsuits and don't want to fork out the cash for a sleeved one when half of my races are in 100 degree heat. x3 on the 910. maybe some tri clothes as i have yet to find anything that is comfortable. i road in my bike shorts and changed into running shorts. if i want to get faster it would be pretty easy by cutting out the wardrobe changes in T1 and T2. |
2011-12-22 8:20 AM in reply to: #3949336 |
Pro 4528 Norwalk, Connecticut | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED jarvy01 - 2011-12-22 8:54 AM Speaking of holiday gifts.....what kind of tri goodies are you all going to be buying this year (besides clothes)? Like Jeff, I'm upgrading to the 910 once it's available (when will it be available?). I'm also investing in some shorty aerobars and new cycling shoes. I'm putting some decent $$ into the shoes, because I know they'll last forever. That's about it aside from new tri clothes. I'm sticking with my sleeveless wetsuit for another season, because I hate wetsuits and don't want to fork out the cash for a sleeved one when half of my races are in 100 degree heat.
the most inportant part of a wetsuit is the elevation it gives you in your hips, the arms are nice but not needed, i am of the opinion that full sleeve suits are not that much faster then sleeveless. I too race primarily in a sleeveless, i personally believe you should do all your training sans wetsuit if it is possible, it will make you a better swimmer and when you put it on helps you become more efficient. If you train in your wettie, you are not getting the full benefits it gives you, it becomes a crutch in training. |
2011-12-22 8:24 AM in reply to: #3949249 |
New Haven, CT | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED kaburns1214 - 2011-12-22 7:22 AM jsklarz - 2011-12-22 5:37 AM Morning all. Trying to clear the decks of big stuff at work today and tomorrow so next week can be relaxing.... I need to log some time logging wow for the past month to get my logs up to date. Maybe I'll sit on a log while I log. Like a run today. Hoping for a garmim 910 for Hanukkah this year. I also need new aero bars. Maybe race wheels too, we'll see. You do not need race wheels. At the Olympic distance it equals maybe a minute. The only way you're going to beat me is to ride more. my training wheels are pretty heavy, particularly for HIMs. Yes, i know i have to ride more, and run more and swim more. But if I do cross fit wont i get faster without all of the above? |
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2011-12-22 8:25 AM in reply to: #3949336 |
New Haven, CT | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED jarvy01 - 2011-12-22 8:54 AM Speaking of holiday gifts.....what kind of tri goodies are you all going to be buying this year (besides clothes)? Like Jeff, I'm upgrading to the 910 once it's available (when will it be available?). I'm also investing in some shorty aerobars and new cycling shoes. I'm putting some decent $$ into the shoes, because I know they'll last forever. That's about it aside from new tri clothes. I'm sticking with my sleeveless wetsuit for another season, because I hate wetsuits and don't want to fork out the cash for a sleeved one when half of my races are in 100 degree heat. no reason for a sleeved suit unless you do a lot of cold water swimming. I have both and only wear my full when i am swimming in april and may in OWS and the water temp is under 70 (very chilly). Once the temps get above that i typically dont wear a suit at all (as rudy said a wetsuit is free speed). Edited by jsklarz 2011-12-22 8:27 AM |
2011-12-22 8:44 AM in reply to: #3949400 |
Extreme Veteran 3020 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED jsklarz - 2011-12-22 9:25 AM jarvy01 - 2011-12-22 8:54 AM Speaking of holiday gifts.....what kind of tri goodies are you all going to be buying this year (besides clothes)? Like Jeff, I'm upgrading to the 910 once it's available (when will it be available?). I'm also investing in some shorty aerobars and new cycling shoes. I'm putting some decent $$ into the shoes, because I know they'll last forever. That's about it aside from new tri clothes. I'm sticking with my sleeveless wetsuit for another season, because I hate wetsuits and don't want to fork out the cash for a sleeved one when half of my races are in 100 degree heat. no reason for a sleeved suit unless you do a lot of cold water swimming. I have both and only wear my full when i am swimming in april and may in OWS and the water temp is under 70 (very chilly). Once the temps get above that i typically dont wear a suit at all (as rudy said a wetsuit is free speed). No tris until June for me this year. 3 of my tris weren't even wetsuit legal last year due to high temps. I expect the same this year. Half Rev Cedar Point is in Sept., and I'm guessing it will be legal, so I'll wear it then. Won't wear it for the sprint and probably won't be able to wear it for Cleveland oly either. I think it takes less effort to swim while wearing the suit, but my swim times are the same with or without it (hopefully they'll just be a bit faster this year ). |
2011-12-22 9:03 AM in reply to: #3949340 |
Pro 4672 Nutmeg State | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED I have read that some people prefer to do bike HR tests and some people do run HR tests. Is there a difference in results? Most people have a 6 - 14 bpm offset between their bike and heart rate zones. I'm at a 10 bpm offset. To have the best results you should do a threshold test on both the bike and the run, but you take a pretty good guess at HR zones if you only do one test. |
2011-12-22 9:06 AM in reply to: #3943066 |
Pro 4672 Nutmeg State | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED If your interested (or trying to figure out my logs/workouts) I train almost exclusively based on HR, but my zones are a little different from the traditional Friel Zones: Zone R (~74% of Threshold): Recovery zone. Used for all recovery rides and runs between key intensity sessions. This takes patience to complete correctly but is critical to being recovered for key workouts. This zone is also used during long rides for stops, and downhills.
Zone 3 (~97% of TH): Threshold tempo zone. Zone to be used for increasing the the percentage of pace or power at which TH occurs relative to VO2 max pace or power. As the race season draws closer, the amount of time spent in this zone should increase. |
2011-12-22 9:15 AM in reply to: #3943066 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED Jeff-y: Crossfit is God's gift to athletes so yes if double your CrossFit time you smoke Kelly this season. Goodies: Need some new goggles, training clothes (all mine are larges and I need a small/medium), some compression gear, and a TRX system. Asked for swim lessons but I doubt I see them. Other than the bulk I like my 305. Would rather just move to a power meter when the opportunity is there. Jason- I like both the DeSoto tri shorts and the Nike ones. Yes Nike. Surprisingly kick a$$ shorts. Bought a pair on recommendation of a local KQ guy and LOVE them. |
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2011-12-22 9:38 AM in reply to: #3949509 |
Pro 4672 Nutmeg State | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED uhcoog - 2011-12-22 10:15 AM Goodies: Need some new goggles, training clothes (all mine are larges and I need a small/medium), some compression gear, and a TRX system. Asked for swim lessons but I doubt I see them. Other than the bulk I like my 305. Would rather just move to a power meter when the opportunity is there. You can build a TRX system with about $15 worth of material from Home Depot. |
2011-12-22 9:41 AM in reply to: #3949580 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED kaburns1214 - 2011-12-22 9:38 AM uhcoog - 2011-12-22 10:15 AM Goodies: Need some new goggles, training clothes (all mine are larges and I need a small/medium), some compression gear, and a TRX system. Asked for swim lessons but I doubt I see them. Other than the bulk I like my 305. Would rather just move to a power meter when the opportunity is there. You can build a TRX system with about $15 worth of material from Home Depot. [/QUOTE True enough. |
2011-12-22 9:42 AM in reply to: #3949588 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED uhcoog - 2011-12-22 9:41 AM kaburns1214 - 2011-12-22 9:38 AM uhcoog - 2011-12-22 10:15 AM Goodies: Need some new goggles, training clothes (all mine are larges and I need a small/medium), some compression gear, and a TRX system. Asked for swim lessons but I doubt I see them. Other than the bulk I like my 305. Would rather just move to a power meter when the opportunity is there. You can build a TRX system with about $15 worth of material from Home Depot. [/QUOTE True enough. |
2011-12-22 9:42 AM in reply to: #3949589 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED uhcoog - 2011-12-22 9:42 AM uhcoog - 2011-12-22 9:41 AM kaburns1214 - 2011-12-22 9:38 AM uhcoog - 2011-12-22 10:15 AM Goodies: Need some new goggles, training clothes (all mine are larges and I need a small/medium), some compression gear, and a TRX system. Asked for swim lessons but I doubt I see them. Other than the bulk I like my 305. Would rather just move to a power meter when the opportunity is there. You can build a TRX system with about $15 worth of material from Home Depot. True enough. |
2011-12-22 9:45 AM in reply to: #3949509 |
Veteran 446 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED uhcoog - 2011-12-22 9:15 AM Jeff-y: Crossfit is God's gift to athletes so yes if double your CrossFit time you smoke Kelly this season. Goodies: Need some new goggles, training clothes (all mine are larges and I need a small/medium), some compression gear, and a TRX system. Asked for swim lessons but I doubt I see them. Other than the bulk I like my 305. Would rather just move to a power meter when the opportunity is there. Jason- I like both the DeSoto tri shorts and the Nike ones. Yes Nike. Surprisingly kick a$$ shorts. Bought a pair on recommendation of a local KQ guy and LOVE them. I hear a lot of people talk about how much they like their DeSoto shorts. I have to go to the mall and finish shopping for my wife today so I might take a little time for myself and check them out. Did I mention that I would rather get beaten with a bat than go to a mall...of well. |
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2011-12-22 9:49 AM in reply to: #3949492 |
Veteran 446 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED kaburns1214 - 2011-12-22 9:06 AM If your interested (or trying to figure out my logs/workouts) I train almost exclusively based on HR, but my zones are a little different from the traditional Friel Zones: Zone R (~74% of Threshold): Recovery zone. Used for all recovery rides and runs between key intensity sessions. This takes patience to complete correctly but is critical to being recovered for key workouts. This zone is also used during long rides for stops, and downhills.
Zone 3 (~97% of TH): Threshold tempo zone. Zone to be used for increasing the the percentage of pace or power at which TH occurs relative to VO2 max pace or power. As the race season draws closer, the amount of time spent in this zone should increase. So in the base phase you will just run for a set time in zone 1 and not care how far you go- |
2011-12-22 11:19 AM in reply to: #3949613 |
New Haven, CT | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED gabrelsj - 2011-12-22 10:49 AM kaburns1214 - 2011-12-22 9:06 AM If your interested (or trying to figure out my logs/workouts) I train almost exclusively based on HR, but my zones are a little different from the traditional Friel Zones: Zone R (~74% of Threshold): Recovery zone. Used for all recovery rides and runs between key intensity sessions. This takes patience to complete correctly but is critical to being recovered for key workouts. This zone is also used during long rides for stops, and downhills.
Zone 3 (~97% of TH): Threshold tempo zone. Zone to be used for increasing the the percentage of pace or power at which TH occurs relative to VO2 max pace or power. As the race season draws closer, the amount of time spent in this zone should increase. So in the base phase you will just run for a set time in zone 1 and not care how far you go- Running by heart rate is good because it makes you stay under control. We naturally tend to run our easy work too hard and hard work too easy meaning you end up in the middle for everything, which is understandable. BUT, whether you go by feel, HR, wattage, etc. the key is to do the workout correctly. It is unusual to see a workout call for a medium effort. a WO of 5 1 mile repeats should hurt. 5 mile repeats on equal rest at a medium pace are not terribly useful. |
2011-12-22 12:11 PM in reply to: #3949580 |
Master 1832 Elgin, IL | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED True but is not as slick or as fast to adjust. My brother did that after he installed my TRX. He still wants the TRXx |
2011-12-22 12:12 PM in reply to: #3949249 |
Master 1832 Elgin, IL | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED WOW, the trash talk is in early!!! |
2011-12-22 12:30 PM in reply to: #3949492 |
Extreme Veteran 378 Acton, Ontario | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED kaburns1214 - 2011-12-22 10:06 AM If your interested (or trying to figure out my logs/workouts) I train almost exclusively based on HR, but my zones are a little different from the traditional Friel Zones: Zone R (~74% of Threshold): Recovery zone. Used for all recovery rides and runs between key intensity sessions. This takes patience to complete correctly but is critical to being recovered for key workouts. This zone is also used during long rides for stops, and downhills.
Zone 3 (~97% of TH): Threshold tempo zone. Zone to be used for increasing the the percentage of pace or power at which TH occurs relative to VO2 max pace or power. As the race season draws closer, the amount of time spent in this zone should increase. For this setup of zones, the "best effort repeats" will likely be >97% of TH? Obviously it will take a bit for your HR to ramp up when doing say 5x1mile, but it becomes quasi-stable somewhere above 97% right? |
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2011-12-22 12:46 PM in reply to: #3943066 |
Expert 1121 | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED Having only one year of Tri experience, I have only experienced the DeSoto Forza, 4 pocket, Tri Shorts. But, I love how they feel and they have held up well. I barely use my bike shorts anymore. As for goodies, I could use another pair of Tri shorts, some more cycling jerseys, tri tops, Tri bag, aero bars, bike fit. You name it. I know people say Tri doesn't have to be expensive, but that's a bunch of BS. It was an expensive year getting started, and don't see it ever being cheap. |
2011-12-22 1:30 PM in reply to: #3950095 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED rizer22 - 2011-12-22 12:46 PM Having only one year of Tri experience, I have only experienced the DeSoto Forza, 4 pocket, Tri Shorts. But, I love how they feel and they have held up well. I barely use my bike shorts anymore. As for goodies, I could use another pair of Tri shorts, some more cycling jerseys, tri tops, Tri bag, aero bars, bike fit. You name it. I know people say Tri doesn't have to be expensive, but that's a bunch of BS. It was an expensive year getting started, and don't see it ever being cheap. It might get cheaper if I had all the gear I wanted/needed and was just spending on maintenance/replacement and entry fees. |
2011-12-22 1:36 PM in reply to: #3949336 |
Extreme Veteran 610 San Francisco CA | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED jarvy01 - 2011-12-22 5:54 AM Speaking of holiday gifts.....what kind of tri goodies are you all going to be buying this year (besides clothes)? No goodies for me this year - I had to get a new wheelset a week before IMAZ so I'm pretty tapped out money wise for tri gear. Husband and I are planning to buy some new furniture for our apartment for Christmas. Probably looking to get a new wetsuit in the new year though. |
2011-12-22 2:03 PM in reply to: #3950202 |
Pro 4528 Norwalk, Connecticut | Subject: RE: kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED calimavs - 2011-12-22 2:36 PM jarvy01 - 2011-12-22 5:54 AM Speaking of holiday gifts.....what kind of tri goodies are you all going to be buying this year (besides clothes)? No goodies for me this year - I had to get a new wheelset a week before IMAZ so I'm pretty tapped out money wise for tri gear. Husband and I are planning to buy some new furniture for our apartment for Christmas. Probably looking to get a new wetsuit in the new year though.
neosport sprint on Ebay, one of the best deals out there very cheap and durable. probably cost around 100-150 bucks |
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