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Kuma - 2013-03-20 9:38 AM

I played Men's softball and soccer. We used to go to Worlds every year for softball but my weekends were shot because we had two or three tournaments a month plus our normal league schedule. It was a lot of wear and tear on the arm and legs. Plus it was a lot of male drama! I have never seen men whine and complain so much and turn into drama queens. Glad to have left that behind. Now I get my soccer fix from coaching my kids and helping the local league.[/QUOTE]

If your kids are like mine, this provides your drama fix also!

For the girls yes. I wish I had an extra 15 mins for them to just get out all of the chatting and "girl" things out of the way and just give me an hour of focus haha.



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Did my new running stability exercises for the third time today, and I'm starting to get a little better at them (i.e., better at balancing). 

Sticking to doing these and other core exercises has made a HUGE difference for me this year. Stick with it. It is a great ROI on time.

I think many, many athlets under estimate the importance of core work.  For most people its the first thing to go when scheduling gets tight.  In reality it should be the last thing to go.

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kr140.6 - 2013-03-20 11:23 AM

Interesting on the eating intuitively threads.... i think I need to eat more frequently too....I get into that feeding frenzy way too much from getting too hungry.  

Pretty good brick today of hour bike, hour run.  

The real drink is scheduling your food intake around your training.  The "bulk" of your calories should come immeadite before, during and in a window after your training so that your body can effectively use the nutrient to replenish energy store and aid recovery.  You can really "save" calories by limiting consumption around training and then use them later.

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kaburns1214 - 2013-03-21 11:01 AM
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Kuma - 2013-03-21 9:22 AM

Did my new running stability exercises for the third time today, and I'm starting to get a little better at them (i.e., better at balancing). 

Sticking to doing these and other core exercises has made a HUGE difference for me this year. Stick with it. It is a great ROI on time.

I think many, many athlets under estimate the importance of core work.  For most people its the first thing to go when scheduling gets tight.  In reality it should be the last thing to go.

And the funny thing is it's the easier thing to get in all day long. I can easily at home or work do a set of side planks or a running drill randomly during the day. I do set of calf raises on the stairs all the time. It also helps with blood flow and recovery if you have an office job like me. At home at night I'll hop on the floor while watching TV with the wife and do a set of side planks or whatever.

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http://whole9life.com/2013/03/whole30-approved-elete-electrolytes/

FINALLY!  An alternative to the sugar laden sports drinks out there!  Just placed my order.

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luv2bhealthy - 2013-03-21 2:04 PM

http://whole9life.com/2013/03/whole30-approved-elete-electrolytes/

FINALLY!  An alternative to the sugar laden sports drinks out there!  Just placed my order.

 

But the sugar is an essential part of the sports drink.  Why would you want to take it out?  No offense, but rapidly dissolving sugars are some of the best fuel for endurance sports. 

 

If you just want the electrolytes there are already a ton of products out there like Nuun natural (removes the sugar alcohols) or even just disolving a Salt Stick Cap in your liquid of choice.  I'm not sure, other than being Whole 30 approved, how this is something new.



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luv2bhealthy - 2013-03-21 2:04 PM

http://whole9life.com/2013/03/whole30-approved-elete-electrolytes/

FINALLY!  An alternative to the sugar laden sports drinks out there!  Just placed my order.

 

But the sugar is an essential part of the sports drink.  Why would you want to take it out?  No offense, but rapidly dissolving sugars are some of the best fuel for endurance sports. 

 

If you just want the electrolytes there are already a ton of products out there like Nuun natural (removes the sugar alcohols) or even just disolving a Salt Stick Cap in your liquid of choice.  I'm not sure, other than being Whole 30 approved, how this is something new.

I guess I just want to try something new and non-sugar.  And I don't really like sports drinks.  I tend to grab water at stations because I don't like the sports drinks.  I do like chews and will eat those.  To tell you the truth, I am nutrition illiterate when talking what to fuel with during races.  Eating on a day-to-day basis - no worries.  I just don't know enough about other products and it all confuses me because there are too many options.  I have used one performance drink called Performance by Shaklee in orange, but I am not familar enough with other products to figure it out and buy them.



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luv2bhealthy - 2013-03-21 2:04 PM

http://whole9life.com/2013/03/whole30-approved-elete-electrolytes/

FINALLY!  An alternative to the sugar laden sports drinks out there!  Just placed my order.

 

But the sugar is an essential part of the sports drink.  Why would you want to take it out?  No offense, but rapidly dissolving sugars are some of the best fuel for endurance sports. 

 

If you just want the electrolytes there are already a ton of products out there like Nuun natural (removes the sugar alcohols) or even just disolving a Salt Stick Cap in your liquid of choice.  I'm not sure, other than being Whole 30 approved, how this is something new.

I guess I just want to try something new and non-sugar.  And I don't really like sports drinks.  I tend to grab water at stations because I don't like the sports drinks.  I do like chews and will eat those.

But the absorbtion rate of water during exercise is horrible and the sugar is metabolized so quickly that it doesn't create any of the responses it does outside an exercise environment. 

 

I truly applaud peoples attempts to rid themselves of sugar.  For the most part there really isn't much of a redeeming quality to it.  Fueling your body during sports activities is one of those redeeming qualities however.

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uhcoog - 2013-03-21 4:41 PM http://home.trainingpeaks.com/articles/general-fitness/the-straight-dope-on-sugar-in-sports-drinks,-by-matt-fitzgerald.aspx[/QUOTE]

Here's the relevant part from Matt Fitzgerald's article:

First of all, sugar has a reputation as an unhealthy nutrient; consequently, there are those who believe that the use of sugar in sports drinks is bad. But sports drinks are formulated for a narrow use and to serve a specific function: to enhance exercise performance. Therefore, consuming the sugars in sports drinks could only be bad if they did not serve this function better than alternative ingredients, or if using sports drinks for their intended purpose caused major negative health problems that outweighed their performance benefits. But research has clearly demonstrated that the sugars in sports drinks enhance exercise performance significantly, and there is no evidence that consuming sports drinks exclusively within the exercise context causes weight gain and metabolic disorders, as general overconsumption of sugar is known to do.

Most endurance athletes understand that the sugars in sports drinks are beneficial, yet they are still affected by sugar’s negative reputation. Within this population, anti-sugar prejudice takes the form of a belief that certain fast-acting sugars in particular cause an energy spike followed by an energy crash that wreaks havoc on performance. According to this viewpoint, slower-acting sugars and non-sugar carbohydrates are better, because they provide a steady supply of energy that does not terminate in a crash.

These beliefs are completely misguided. In fact the human body is incapable of absorbing carbohydrate as quickly as carbohydrate is oxidized in the muscles during moderately intense to intense exercise. Thus, to get the maximum possible benefit from carbs consumed during exercise you want to consume the most rapidly absorbed and metabolized types of carbs possible. There is no advantage whatsoever in consuming carbs that take a long time to reach and be used by your muscles. To the contrary, relying on slower carbs will only exacerbate the unavoidable carbohydrate deficit that results from the differential rates at which carbs are burned and absorbed during exercise.

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kr140.6 - 2013-03-20 11:23 AM

Interesting on the eating intuitively threads.... i think I need to eat more frequently too....I get into that feeding frenzy way too much from getting too hungry.  

Pretty good brick today of hour bike, hour run.  

The real drink is scheduling your food intake around your training.  The "bulk" of your calories should come immeadite before, during and in a window after your training so that your body can effectively use the nutrient to replenish energy store and aid recovery.  You can really "save" calories by limiting consumption around training and then use them later.

Very interesting...I could probably benefit from a nutrionist.  

Sometimes I think I have terrible metabolism because I don't feel I eat all that much for the activity I am doing and it is hard to lose weight.  (I know you are going through this now Kelly... glad it may be turning a corner)..... HOWEVER, I did have a funny reality check last weekend.  I had friends over for dinner.  One female friend came out of the bathroom and looked down at the dinner plate on the table and thought to herself, "Man I really can't believe I served myself that much food....Oh wait a sec, THAT's Katie's PLATE!"...ha... so maybe I am fooling myself... probably do eat a lot more than I realize.  



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kr140.6 - 2013-03-21 4:51 PM
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kr140.6 - 2013-03-20 11:23 AM

Interesting on the eating intuitively threads.... i think I need to eat more frequently too....I get into that feeding frenzy way too much from getting too hungry.  

Pretty good brick today of hour bike, hour run.  

The real drink is scheduling your food intake around your training.  The "bulk" of your calories should come immeadite before, during and in a window after your training so that your body can effectively use the nutrient to replenish energy store and aid recovery.  You can really "save" calories by limiting consumption around training and then use them later.

Very interesting...I could probably benefit from a nutrionist.  

Sometimes I think I have terrible metabolism because I don't feel I eat all that much for the activity I am doing and it is hard to lose weight.  (I know you are going through this now Kelly... glad it may be turning a corner)..... HOWEVER, I did have a funny reality check last weekend.  I had friends over for dinner.  One female friend came out of the bathroom and looked down at the dinner plate on the table and thought to herself, "Man I really can't believe I served myself that much food....Oh wait a sec, THAT's Katie's PLATE!"...ha... so maybe I am fooling myself... probably do eat a lot more than I realize.  

A big thing with training (especially when training long) is not only what you eat but when you eat.   A big dinner after a 3 hour bike will be used to re-fuel and recover.  A big dinner at 7 p.m. when you trained at 6 a.m. is going to be used for "normal" body functions -- such as storage of fat.

 

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Thanks for providing the Cliff Notes version Kel
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uhcoog - 2013-03-21 4:41 PM http://home.trainingpeaks.com/articles/general-fitness/the-straight-dope-on-sugar-in-sports-drinks,-by-matt-fitzgerald.aspx[/QUOTE]

Here's the relevant part from Matt Fitzgerald's article:

First of all, sugar has a reputation as an unhealthy nutrient; consequently, there are those who believe that the use of sugar in sports drinks is bad. But sports drinks are formulated for a narrow use and to serve a specific function: to enhance exercise performance. Therefore, consuming the sugars in sports drinks could only be bad if they did not serve this function better than alternative ingredients, or if using sports drinks for their intended purpose caused major negative health problems that outweighed their performance benefits. But research has clearly demonstrated that the sugars in sports drinks enhance exercise performance significantly, and there is no evidence that consuming sports drinks exclusively within the exercise context causes weight gain and metabolic disorders, as general overconsumption of sugar is known to do.

Most endurance athletes understand that the sugars in sports drinks are beneficial, yet they are still affected by sugar’s negative reputation. Within this population, anti-sugar prejudice takes the form of a belief that certain fast-acting sugars in particular cause an energy spike followed by an energy crash that wreaks havoc on performance. According to this viewpoint, slower-acting sugars and non-sugar carbohydrates are better, because they provide a steady supply of energy that does not terminate in a crash.

These beliefs are completely misguided. In fact the human body is incapable of absorbing carbohydrate as quickly as carbohydrate is oxidized in the muscles during moderately intense to intense exercise. Thus, to get the maximum possible benefit from carbs consumed during exercise you want to consume the most rapidly absorbed and metabolized types of carbs possible. There is no advantage whatsoever in consuming carbs that take a long time to reach and be used by your muscles. To the contrary, relying on slower carbs will only exacerbate the unavoidable carbohydrate deficit that results from the differential rates at which carbs are burned and absorbed during exercise.

I'm not a sugar phobe, but if I am going to drink something, I want it to taste good and do what it says it will.  I do not like Gatorade or those kinds of drinks.  Performance tastes good, but I am not sure if it did anything for me.  I still have some at home.  I just don't want to waste my money. 

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I'm not a sugar phobe, but if I am going to drink something, I want it to taste good and do what it says it will.  I do not like Gatorade or those kinds of drinks.  Performance tastes good, but I am not sure if it did anything for me.  I still have some at home.  I just don't want to waste my money. 

Also for shorter distances / shorter training you don't really need anything.  General rule of thumb is water as needed for anything under an hour. 



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Ok, this is a very important question. I am still finding my way on my road bike. I have a 34 mile ride Saturday after a 10k race. The ride has an extremely steep hill at the end called the Beast. What is the optimal gears I should be in to go up that hill? I have two gears in front, 9 in back. Thank you.
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A little blurb on heart rate variability (HRV) and its benefit on training/recovery.

 

http://www.active.com/triathlon/Articles/Ben-Greenfields-Top-Triathlon-Gear-Picks-for-2013?page=2

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I woke up with a stuffed up head, sore throat, swollen glands, etc.  I am so disappointed.  I've actually been well this winter aside from the Celiac diagnosis and one round of bronchitis.  I'm going to drink tons of water and rest as much as I can today.  My husband and I are scheduled for an anniversary date tomorrow night, and I don't want to cancel.  He found a seafood restaurant downtown that caters to individuals who have food allergies.  Anyway, I hope this doesn't make its way to my lungs.  Training is going very, very well, and I don't want to derail again. 

Fred just came down and said he doesn't feel well.  Grrr.   

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luv2bhealthy - 2013-03-21 9:28 PM Ok, this is a very important question. I am still finding my way on my road bike. I have a 34 mile ride Saturday after a 10k race. The ride has an extremely steep hill at the end called the Beast. What is the optimal gears I should be in to go up that hill? I have two gears in front, 9 in back. Thank you.

You should be in the small chain ring in the front and in the biggest gear in the back (the one that looks like a pie plate).

Do you know what size cassette is one your bike and whether you have a compact crank?

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kaburns1214 - 2013-03-22 8:46 AM

luv2bhealthy - 2013-03-21 9:28 PM Ok, this is a very important question. I am still finding my way on my road bike. I have a 34 mile ride Saturday after a 10k race. The ride has an extremely steep hill at the end called the Beast. What is the optimal gears I should be in to go up that hill? I have two gears in front, 9 in back. Thank you.

You should be in the small chain ring in the front and in the biggest gear in the back (the one that looks like a pie plate).

Do you know what size cassette is one your bike and whether you have a compact crank?

Ok, that's what I thought. My LBS told me that I just need to learn by feel and maybe I am starting my shifting too late. And Compact crank - FSA Vero 50/34; SRAM PG-950 11-28 9 speed cassette.

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I woke up with a stuffed up head, sore throat, swollen glands, etc.  I am so disappointed.  I've actually been well this winter aside from the Celiac diagnosis and one round of bronchitis.  I'm going to drink tons of water and rest as much as I can today.  My husband and I are scheduled for an anniversary date tomorrow night, and I don't want to cancel.  He found a seafood restaurant downtown that caters to individuals who have food allergies.  Anyway, I hope this doesn't make its way to my lungs.  Training is going very, very well, and I don't want to derail again. 

Fred just came down and said he doesn't feel well.  Grrr.   

Awww! Hope you get better fast!
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Hope you feel better Jen.

Hour on the trainer and then a 6.5 mile Z1/Z2 run.

Long day. Our cat found a mouse and deposited it on my oldest daughter's bed at 3:30AM so I woke up to her screaming. I never really got back into any type of real sleep after that since my heart rate went from 45 to 245 in a second. Working from home and work is super busy and my wife is setting up for a charity event we are having tonight for my daughter's foundation. So I have the youngest two with me while trying to clean up for the babysitter while working and keeping them happy. Then I probably won't get to bed until after midnight which is a very rare event for me.

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Feel better Jen!

 

Scott - good luck at the charity event!!

 

I have an endurance event tonight in the form of a cub scout sleepover at an aquarium. I have no idea how I will be up so late when I am used to going to bed at 9.

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luv2bhealthy - 2013-03-22 11:29 AM
kaburns1214 - 2013-03-22 8:46 AM

luv2bhealthy - 2013-03-21 9:28 PM Ok, this is a very important question. I am still finding my way on my road bike. I have a 34 mile ride Saturday after a 10k race. The ride has an extremely steep hill at the end called the Beast. What is the optimal gears I should be in to go up that hill? I have two gears in front, 9 in back. Thank you.

You should be in the small chain ring in the front and in the biggest gear in the back (the one that looks like a pie plate).

Do you know what size cassette is one your bike and whether you have a compact crank?

Ok, that's what I thought. My LBS told me that I just need to learn by feel and maybe I am starting my shifting too late. And Compact crank - FSA Vero 50/34; SRAM PG-950 11-28 9 speed cassette.

You're in good shape gear wise to climb.  Just make sure to shift into the easier gear early (if you wait and shift under load it can cause a chain drop).

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