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uhcoog - 2012-07-16 12:32 PM Hey Kelly.  Apparently someone held a camp at the IMNYC site and people who normally swim mid pack IM swims were swimming almost sub 1hr.  Might have been EN, I don't know.  My buddy who swam a Texas A&M jokingly said that he might come in around 40 minutes and that people could go 1:15 side stroking.  Just food for thought.

Think IMNYC will be wetsuit legal?  My guess is no.  

It was last year on 8/7 and the water temp was 74 or76 I can't remember.

That's surprising.  Cleveland Tri wasn't.  I think the water temp was greater than 82, I believe.  Going to be the same this year.  I hope it cools down a little for Cedar Point in Sept.  

Lake vs Ocean. Long Island sound can get pretty warm but rarely tops 80.



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jarvy01 - 2012-07-16 12:36 PM

uhcoog - 2012-07-16 12:32 PM Hey Kelly.  Apparently someone held a camp at the IMNYC site and people who normally swim mid pack IM swims were swimming almost sub 1hr.  Might have been EN, I don't know.  My buddy who swam a Texas A&M jokingly said that he might come in around 40 minutes and that people could go 1:15 side stroking.  Just food for thought.

Think IMNYC will be wetsuit legal?  My guess is no.  

Per special exemption, regardless of water temperature, the swim will be wetsuit legal.

As far as current go there are two factors at play: (1) current; and (2) tide.  There is a weak current as the Hudson River flows to the sea.  This current is pretty constant.  Howver, the tide plays a MUCH bigger role than current.  If the tide is going out, there is a decent down river pull.  At IMNYC the tide will be coming IN until 7:20.  There will be slack tide until about 7:40 and then the tide will be going OUT after 7:40. 

Also the effets of the tide are not as great the farther north you go.  The start for Nautica New York is further south than the swim for IMNYC (which starts almost 3 miles north of the GW Bridge).  In reality the current/tides will not play a huge role in the swim.

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uhcoog - 2012-07-16 11:34 AM
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everlong - 2012-07-15 10:51 AM

8 weeks out from Pumpkinman. I was in the saddle at 5:15 to beat the heat this morning and put in a quality 60 miles. I planned on doing all my hill work the first half and then doing the flats down by the beach the second half. Great plan but man the winds were awful. I was either fighting a head or cross wind my entire way back. I was on this flat that I can normally cruise at 19+ on with a 130-ish heart rate. I was going 17 with my heart rate in the 140's and just could not penetrate it.

Any how with 8 weeks left I just still feel beat up from all the extra volume I've done this year to make the jump to the HIM level. I was hoping to improve on Patriot but I just know if I'll ever feel fresh again until I take a couple of weeks off after Pumpkin. I don't know how the guys in the Tour do it day after day for three weeks.

I am 8 weeks out from my first HIM (also my A race of the season), and I am feeling the same as you.  I've spent much, much more time on the bike this year.  I will surpass my bike total from 2011 in a week or two and the season isn't even close to being over.  I'm taking 2 weeks completely off after Cedar Point - working on my new house, sleeping in, playing with the kids, getting the 2 tats I've wanted for a while but couldn't get because of pool swimming, etc.  My husband and I are having a huge party the weekend after Cedar Point, and I plan on getting pretty bombed, as I've abstained from alcohol for the last 9 months (drank a handful of times at most).  I will be taking at least another 4 weeks after those 2 to do whatever activities float my boat - yoga, pilates, and strength training.   

I was thinking along the same lines of doing nothing but yoga and core work for the first two weeks and then for 4 weeks after throwing in 2 hours of cycling, 1 hour of running and 45 minutes of swimming for a month just to do some cardio but give my body and brain a much needed break.

I checked and your race is the same day as mine........meet you at the ice baths. I also noticed you have a couple of marathons in the books so doing the HIM shouldn't be too much harder for you.

I hope you're right....that the HIM isn't too much harder.  I worry about the bike.  Doubt has started to make its lovely way in to my head, and I'm starting to experience some anxiety.  Physically I know I will be well prepared for it; I just need to make sure my head is in the right place.  

Don't know about the ice bath.....never tried it.  Does it feel really good after a long race? 

Jen follow your plan on the bike and you'll be fine.  Basically just don't overcook it.  Trust your training.

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DDVMM - 2012-07-15 6:26 PM Here is a silly newbie question....do you wear bike gloves when racing sprint or olympic distance? I have not in the sprints I have done, but I have my oly next week and wondering if I should?

I never wear them (not even in a full IM -- unless its super cold, but then I waering full fingered gloves for warmth).

Its your first Olympic -- do what's most comfortable for you.

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jarvy01 - 2012-07-16 9:27 AM Michele told me about a deal on Blue Seventy wetsuits at Nytro.com, and I decided to pull the trigger on the 2011 model that was on sale.  Didn't clear it with my husband, and I'm just hoping he glosses over that charge when it appears on our credit card statement.  We usually only discuss purchases over $200.    

Speaking of purchases.  I go to pay the credit card bill this morning and it was super high.  come to find out someon spent $2000 at Bass Pro Shops and Lowes in Indiana using my card.

Lovely.

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kaburns1214 - 2012-07-16 2:28 PM
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jarvy01 - 2012-07-16 9:35 AM
everlong - 2012-07-16 10:31 AM
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everlong - 2012-07-15 10:51 AM

8 weeks out from Pumpkinman. I was in the saddle at 5:15 to beat the heat this morning and put in a quality 60 miles. I planned on doing all my hill work the first half and then doing the flats down by the beach the second half. Great plan but man the winds were awful. I was either fighting a head or cross wind my entire way back. I was on this flat that I can normally cruise at 19+ on with a 130-ish heart rate. I was going 17 with my heart rate in the 140's and just could not penetrate it.

Any how with 8 weeks left I just still feel beat up from all the extra volume I've done this year to make the jump to the HIM level. I was hoping to improve on Patriot but I just know if I'll ever feel fresh again until I take a couple of weeks off after Pumpkin. I don't know how the guys in the Tour do it day after day for three weeks.

I am 8 weeks out from my first HIM (also my A race of the season), and I am feeling the same as you.  I've spent much, much more time on the bike this year.  I will surpass my bike total from 2011 in a week or two and the season isn't even close to being over.  I'm taking 2 weeks completely off after Cedar Point - working on my new house, sleeping in, playing with the kids, getting the 2 tats I've wanted for a while but couldn't get because of pool swimming, etc.  My husband and I are having a huge party the weekend after Cedar Point, and I plan on getting pretty bombed, as I've abstained from alcohol for the last 9 months (drank a handful of times at most).  I will be taking at least another 4 weeks after those 2 to do whatever activities float my boat - yoga, pilates, and strength training.   

I was thinking along the same lines of doing nothing but yoga and core work for the first two weeks and then for 4 weeks after throwing in 2 hours of cycling, 1 hour of running and 45 minutes of swimming for a month just to do some cardio but give my body and brain a much needed break.

I checked and your race is the same day as mine........meet you at the ice baths. I also noticed you have a couple of marathons in the books so doing the HIM shouldn't be too much harder for you.

I hope you're right....that the HIM isn't too much harder.  I worry about the bike.  Doubt has started to make its lovely way in to my head, and I'm starting to experience some anxiety.  Physically I know I will be well prepared for it; I just need to make sure my head is in the right place.  

Don't know about the ice bath.....never tried it.  Does it feel really good after a long race? 

Jen follow your plan on the bike and you'll be fine.  Basically just don't overcook it.  Trust your training.

X2

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Only takes one super painful run to learn your lesson.



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kaburns1214 - 2012-07-16 2:31 PM

jarvy01 - 2012-07-16 9:27 AM Michele told me about a deal on Blue Seventy wetsuits at Nytro.com, and I decided to pull the trigger on the 2011 model that was on sale.  Didn't clear it with my husband, and I'm just hoping he glosses over that charge when it appears on our credit card statement.  We usually only discuss purchases over $200.    

Speaking of purchases.  I go to pay the credit card bill this morning and it was super high.  come to find out someon spent $2000 at Bass Pro Shops and Lowes in Indiana using my card.

Lovely.

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uhcoog - 2012-07-16 3:40 PM
kaburns1214 - 2012-07-16 2:28 PM
uhcoog - 2012-07-16 11:34 AM
jarvy01 - 2012-07-16 9:35 AM
everlong - 2012-07-16 10:31 AM
jarvy01 - 2012-07-16 7:32 AM
everlong - 2012-07-15 10:51 AM

8 weeks out from Pumpkinman. I was in the saddle at 5:15 to beat the heat this morning and put in a quality 60 miles. I planned on doing all my hill work the first half and then doing the flats down by the beach the second half. Great plan but man the winds were awful. I was either fighting a head or cross wind my entire way back. I was on this flat that I can normally cruise at 19+ on with a 130-ish heart rate. I was going 17 with my heart rate in the 140's and just could not penetrate it.

Any how with 8 weeks left I just still feel beat up from all the extra volume I've done this year to make the jump to the HIM level. I was hoping to improve on Patriot but I just know if I'll ever feel fresh again until I take a couple of weeks off after Pumpkin. I don't know how the guys in the Tour do it day after day for three weeks.

I am 8 weeks out from my first HIM (also my A race of the season), and I am feeling the same as you.  I've spent much, much more time on the bike this year.  I will surpass my bike total from 2011 in a week or two and the season isn't even close to being over.  I'm taking 2 weeks completely off after Cedar Point - working on my new house, sleeping in, playing with the kids, getting the 2 tats I've wanted for a while but couldn't get because of pool swimming, etc.  My husband and I are having a huge party the weekend after Cedar Point, and I plan on getting pretty bombed, as I've abstained from alcohol for the last 9 months (drank a handful of times at most).  I will be taking at least another 4 weeks after those 2 to do whatever activities float my boat - yoga, pilates, and strength training.   

I was thinking along the same lines of doing nothing but yoga and core work for the first two weeks and then for 4 weeks after throwing in 2 hours of cycling, 1 hour of running and 45 minutes of swimming for a month just to do some cardio but give my body and brain a much needed break.

I checked and your race is the same day as mine........meet you at the ice baths. I also noticed you have a couple of marathons in the books so doing the HIM shouldn't be too much harder for you.

I hope you're right....that the HIM isn't too much harder.  I worry about the bike.  Doubt has started to make its lovely way in to my head, and I'm starting to experience some anxiety.  Physically I know I will be well prepared for it; I just need to make sure my head is in the right place.  

Don't know about the ice bath.....never tried it.  Does it feel really good after a long race? 

Jen follow your plan on the bike and you'll be fine.  Basically just don't overcook it.  Trust your training.

X2

Scott is always a good voice of reason.

Only takes one super painful run to learn your lesson.

 

Sometimes even that is not the case....LOL

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DDVMM - 2012-07-15 6:26 PM Here is a silly newbie question....do you wear bike gloves when racing sprint or olympic distance? I have not in the sprints I have done, but I have my oly next week and wondering if I should?

 

for me no i do not, the 10-15 seconds you lose is gigantic in a sprint.  I usually do not wear gloves for any tri's to be honest.

I did drop my bike this weekend though in T1, my hands were still wet and i grabbed at my seat while running and the bike basically slid out of my hand, i laughed my butt off.

 

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kidtri33 - 2012-07-13 3:42 PM

Hey guys I posted this in the tri talk forum but wanted to get y'alls input as well:

 

So, I just started triathlons this year and my family has made it to both races this year and after each one both of my older children have showed interest in doing this one day. It makes me very proud that they want to do this and I can be an example for them living a healthy lifestyle so I want to lead them in the right direction. My issue is I want to support them but don't know where to start mainly on the swim side. I see the swim teams around here and I don't think my kids are ready for that yet. I never swam except recreationally at their age so I have no idea about swim teams and such. Biking shouldn't be an issue as we take bike rides together now and we can work on that. Should I get them involved in lessons first then look for a swim team to join later? They are 13 and 11 btw. We are doing our first 5k together as a family in September which I am very excited about. Thanks for any advice y'all have

 

i would totally bring them to the local Y or whatever you have there and get them lessons first and you can usually get really good deals on lessons at the Y and such. Kids in sports stay out of courts!!!

Well usually, lol.

 

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karen26.2 - 2012-07-15 4:05 PM Nice job Scott! Anyone hear from Rudy?

 

Rudy had his typical race, swam OK, beat the entire field on the bike and slogged and had fun on the run.  After Patriot my IT band issue developed into 2 strains in muscle in my left leg. It still hurts to this day. As you can see from my logs i had not run or swam since Patriot on June 18, run cause it hurts to straighten my leg, and not swam because i am a lazy azz that did not want to get up to go to the sound.  So i had an OK swim, but felt the lack of swimming on the first lap of the bike, and just wanted to make sure I did no serious damage running, and if it hurt, i was shutting it down and walking.  Still had an OK run, about a minute slower than last year, i high fived spectators, volunteers and other athletes and basically just put it in cruise mode.  I had a lot of fun then got drunk at my BBQ.

 



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jarvy01 - 2012-07-16 9:27 AM Michele told me about a deal on Blue Seventy wetsuits at Nytro.com, and I decided to pull the trigger on the 2011 model that was on sale.  Didn't clear it with my husband, and I'm just hoping he glosses over that charge when it appears on our credit card statement.  We usually only discuss purchases over $200.    

Speaking of purchases.  I go to pay the credit card bill this morning and it was super high.  come to find out someon spent $2000 at Bass Pro Shops and Lowes in Indiana using my card.

Lovely.

That is awesome.  LOL

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karen26.2 - 2012-07-15 4:05 PM Nice job Scott! Anyone hear from Rudy?

 

Rudy had his typical race, swam OK, beat the entire field on the bike and slogged and had fun on the run.  After Patriot my IT band issue developed into 2 strains in muscle in my left leg. It still hurts to this day. As you can see from my logs i had not run or swam since Patriot on June 18, run cause it hurts to straighten my leg, and not swam because i am a lazy azz that did not want to get up to go to the sound.  So i had an OK swim, but felt the lack of swimming on the first lap of the bike, and just wanted to make sure I did no serious damage running, and if it hurt, i was shutting it down and walking.  Still had an OK run, about a minute slower than last year, i high fived spectators, volunteers and other athletes and basically just put it in cruise mode.  I had a lot of fun then got drunk at my BBQ.

 

It's fantastic that you can pull off those swim and run times without training them.  Your bike fitness must translate really well.  Again, job well done!  Any more triathlons for you this summer?

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uhcoog - 2012-07-16 12:32 PM Hey Kelly.  Apparently someone held a camp at the IMNYC site and people who normally swim mid pack IM swims were swimming almost sub 1hr.  Might have been EN, I don't know.  My buddy who swam a Texas A&M jokingly said that he might come in around 40 minutes and that people could go 1:15 side stroking.  Just food for thought.

Think IMNYC will be wetsuit legal?  My guess is no.  

Per special exemption, regardless of water temperature, the swim will be wetsuit legal.

As far as current go there are two factors at play: (1) current; and (2) tide.  There is a weak current as the Hudson River flows to the sea.  This current is pretty constant.  Howver, the tide plays a MUCH bigger role than current.  If the tide is going out, there is a decent down river pull.  At IMNYC the tide will be coming IN until 7:20.  There will be slack tide until about 7:40 and then the tide will be going OUT after 7:40. 

Also the effets of the tide are not as great the farther north you go.  The start for Nautica New York is further south than the swim for IMNYC (which starts almost 3 miles north of the GW Bridge).  In reality the current/tides will not play a huge role in the swim.

Why the special exemption?

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In tri talk I keep reading different posts regarding the quality of different sport drinks.  I know the components in different brands can be different, particularly the source of sugar, but aren't they all basically sugar water with electrolytes?  I also read that an individual had GI distress because of Gatorade, so it got me thinking about my bloating and pain during the run portions of my olympic triathlons.  I just use Gatorade Perform powder because it's cheap and easy for me to buy without having to spend a lot of $ on something I consider to be a necessary evil (a gross necessary evil, but I digress...).  I won't spend money on something like Infinit.  Does anyone know anything about sports drinks & quality or GI distress?  Opinions? 
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jarvy01 - 2012-07-16 5:49 PM
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jarvy01 - 2012-07-16 12:36 PM

uhcoog - 2012-07-16 12:32 PM Hey Kelly.  Apparently someone held a camp at the IMNYC site and people who normally swim mid pack IM swims were swimming almost sub 1hr.  Might have been EN, I don't know.  My buddy who swam a Texas A&M jokingly said that he might come in around 40 minutes and that people could go 1:15 side stroking.  Just food for thought.

Think IMNYC will be wetsuit legal?  My guess is no.  

Because the water will be right around 76 degrees and it could go either way.  Because the start is from a barge, its tough to make a morning of call so they decdied to pre-call it as wetsuit legal.

Per special exemption, regardless of water temperature, the swim will be wetsuit legal.

As far as current go there are two factors at play: (1) current; and (2) tide.  There is a weak current as the Hudson River flows to the sea.  This current is pretty constant.  Howver, the tide plays a MUCH bigger role than current.  If the tide is going out, there is a decent down river pull.  At IMNYC the tide will be coming IN until 7:20.  There will be slack tide until about 7:40 and then the tide will be going OUT after 7:40. 

Also the effets of the tide are not as great the farther north you go.  The start for Nautica New York is further south than the swim for IMNYC (which starts almost 3 miles north of the GW Bridge).  In reality the current/tides will not play a huge role in the swim.

Why the special exemption?



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jarvy01 - 2012-07-16 5:56 PM In tri talk I keep reading different posts regarding the quality of different sport drinks.  I know the components in different brands can be different, particularly the source of sugar, but aren't they all basically sugar water with electrolytes?  I also read that an individual had GI distress because of Gatorade, so it got me thinking about my bloating and pain during the run portions of my olympic triathlons.  I just use Gatorade Perform powder because it's cheap and easy for me to buy without having to spend a lot of $ on something I consider to be a necessary evil (a gross necessary evil, but I digress...).  I won't spend money on something like Infinit.  Does anyone know anything about sports drinks & quality or GI distress?  Opinions? 

Different drinks use different types of sugars (short, medium and long chain sugars).  Some drinks use all of one type of sugars, some use two, some all three.  Different people have different sensitivities. 

In my experience, pretty much everyone (with a few exceptions for people who are celiacs, have very specific allergies, etc.) can use pretty much any type of drink. 

Bloating is probably not caused solely by the drink you are using, but rather how you are using and how hard you are going.

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kaburns1214 - 2012-07-16 6:07 PM

jarvy01 - 2012-07-16 5:56 PM In tri talk I keep reading different posts regarding the quality of different sport drinks.  I know the components in different brands can be different, particularly the source of sugar, but aren't they all basically sugar water with electrolytes?  I also read that an individual had GI distress because of Gatorade, so it got me thinking about my bloating and pain during the run portions of my olympic triathlons.  I just use Gatorade Perform powder because it's cheap and easy for me to buy without having to spend a lot of $ on something I consider to be a necessary evil (a gross necessary evil, but I digress...).  I won't spend money on something like Infinit.  Does anyone know anything about sports drinks & quality or GI distress?  Opinions? 

Different drinks use different types of sugars (short, medium and long chain sugars).  Some drinks use all of one type of sugars, some use two, some all three.  Different people have different sensitivities. 

In my experience, pretty much everyone (with a few exceptions for people who are celiacs, have very specific allergies, etc.) can use pretty much any type of drink. 

Bloating is probably not caused solely by the drink you are using, but rather how you are using and how hard you are going.

This is what I thought, but I wanted to ask because I was curious.  Thank you!

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My husband wants me to ask a question -

He cannot eat or drink anything before exercising, or he gets all burpy and stomach feels horrible.  I told him he just needed to train his body to be able to eat and drink, and to start with small basic things like plain oatmeal.  He's tried that, but still says he cannot have anything in his stomach before exercising.  (Probably a ploy to not exercise - but that's another issue!)

I know there are certain things I have to avoid (apples, yogurt, pretty much anything with protein), but I can train with food and drink in my stomach.

Anyone have this problem and figure out a way to overcome it?

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karen26.2 - 2012-07-17 7:29 AM

My husband wants me to ask a question -

He cannot eat or drink anything before exercising, or he gets all burpy and stomach feels horrible.  I told him he just needed to train his body to be able to eat and drink, and to start with small basic things like plain oatmeal.  He's tried that, but still says he cannot have anything in his stomach before exercising.  (Probably a ploy to not exercise - but that's another issue!)

I know there are certain things I have to avoid (apples, yogurt, pretty much anything with protein), but I can train with food and drink in my stomach.

Anyone have this problem and figure out a way to overcome it?

Why does he feel he needs to eat something before a exercising?  For performance reasons?  

If it's a session of 60-90 minutes, then I don't bother (only if over 90 minutes, but I have to force it down).  I'm just not hungry right when I get up in the morning and prefer to train empty like that.  I know this isn't the answer you were looking for, and I'm sure there are easily digestible foods he can try to get down, so maybe others here will have some advice.  

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karen26.2 - 2012-07-17 6:29 AM

My husband wants me to ask a question -

He cannot eat or drink anything before exercising, or he gets all burpy and stomach feels horrible.  I told him he just needed to train his body to be able to eat and drink, and to start with small basic things like plain oatmeal.  He's tried that, but still says he cannot have anything in his stomach before exercising.  (Probably a ploy to not exercise - but that's another issue!)

I know there are certain things I have to avoid (apples, yogurt, pretty much anything with protein), but I can train with food and drink in my stomach.

Anyone have this problem and figure out a way to overcome it?

 

Could always try something meant to be easily digestible like Ensure.  Good carbs and easy on the stomach.



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karen26.2 - 2012-07-17 7:29 AM

My husband wants me to ask a question -

He cannot eat or drink anything before exercising, or he gets all burpy and stomach feels horrible.  I told him he just needed to train his body to be able to eat and drink, and to start with small basic things like plain oatmeal.  He's tried that, but still says he cannot have anything in his stomach before exercising.  (Probably a ploy to not exercise - but that's another issue!)

I know there are certain things I have to avoid (apples, yogurt, pretty much anything with protein), but I can train with food and drink in my stomach.

Anyone have this problem and figure out a way to overcome it?

Why does he feel he needs to eat something before a exercising?  For performance reasons?  

If it's a session of 60-90 minutes, then I don't bother (only if over 90 minutes, but I have to force it down).  I'm just not hungry right when I get up in the morning and prefer to train empty like that.  I know this isn't the answer you were looking for, and I'm sure there are easily digestible foods he can try to get down, so maybe others here will have some advice.  

Did someone give Bryan Jen's login info????

2012-07-17 7:26 AM
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uhcoog - 2012-07-17 8:18 AM
jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 6:34 AM
karen26.2 - 2012-07-17 7:29 AM

My husband wants me to ask a question -

He cannot eat or drink anything before exercising, or he gets all burpy and stomach feels horrible.  I told him he just needed to train his body to be able to eat and drink, and to start with small basic things like plain oatmeal.  He's tried that, but still says he cannot have anything in his stomach before exercising.  (Probably a ploy to not exercise - but that's another issue!)

I know there are certain things I have to avoid (apples, yogurt, pretty much anything with protein), but I can train with food and drink in my stomach.

Anyone have this problem and figure out a way to overcome it?

Why does he feel he needs to eat something before a exercising?  For performance reasons?  

If it's a session of 60-90 minutes, then I don't bother (only if over 90 minutes, but I have to force it down).  I'm just not hungry right when I get up in the morning and prefer to train empty like that.  I know this isn't the answer you were looking for, and I'm sure there are easily digestible foods he can try to get down, so maybe others here will have some advice.  

Did someone give Bryan Jen's login info????

LOL.  I like training empty/fasted training.  It works very well for me.  Even before I started triathlon training, I would work out at 5 in the morning on an empty stomach.  It is very, very difficult for me to consume food before I train, let alone before a race.  I just feel gross and full, and it almost impacts me negatively.  I have had to make myself consume food before my long ride, which is the only workout during the week where I'll consume something before heading out (even then it's a banana or a piece of toast).

Karen- has your husband tried eating a banana before heading out?  What is he eating before his sessions? 

 

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uhcoog - 2012-07-17 8:18 AM
jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 6:34 AM
karen26.2 - 2012-07-17 7:29 AM

My husband wants me to ask a question -

He cannot eat or drink anything before exercising, or he gets all burpy and stomach feels horrible.  I told him he just needed to train his body to be able to eat and drink, and to start with small basic things like plain oatmeal.  He's tried that, but still says he cannot have anything in his stomach before exercising.  (Probably a ploy to not exercise - but that's another issue!)

I know there are certain things I have to avoid (apples, yogurt, pretty much anything with protein), but I can train with food and drink in my stomach.

Anyone have this problem and figure out a way to overcome it?

Why does he feel he needs to eat something before a exercising?  For performance reasons?  

If it's a session of 60-90 minutes, then I don't bother (only if over 90 minutes, but I have to force it down).  I'm just not hungry right when I get up in the morning and prefer to train empty like that.  I know this isn't the answer you were looking for, and I'm sure there are easily digestible foods he can try to get down, so maybe others here will have some advice.  

Did someone give Bryan Jen's login info????

LOL.

 

Seriously, if he's just "recreationally" exercising for lack of a better word, he probably doesn't need anything. 

however, if he is trying to loose weight, waiting to eat until mid to late morning can be detrimental (couple schools of thought on this one being you want to start having your metabolism work as soon as you get up, another that if you delay eating in the morning you're likely to over eat at night).

I would have him try something really simple (oatmeal is tough because its a whole grain) like apple sauce or a a natures valley bar or something of the like.  My pre-training breakfast is generally a natures valley bar and a cup of coffee.

2012-07-17 7:55 AM
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jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 8:26 AM
uhcoog - 2012-07-17 8:18 AM
jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 6:34 AM
karen26.2 - 2012-07-17 7:29 AM

My husband wants me to ask a question -

He cannot eat or drink anything before exercising, or he gets all burpy and stomach feels horrible.  I told him he just needed to train his body to be able to eat and drink, and to start with small basic things like plain oatmeal.  He's tried that, but still says he cannot have anything in his stomach before exercising.  (Probably a ploy to not exercise - but that's another issue!)

I know there are certain things I have to avoid (apples, yogurt, pretty much anything with protein), but I can train with food and drink in my stomach.

Anyone have this problem and figure out a way to overcome it?

Why does he feel he needs to eat something before a exercising?  For performance reasons?  

If it's a session of 60-90 minutes, then I don't bother (only if over 90 minutes, but I have to force it down).  I'm just not hungry right when I get up in the morning and prefer to train empty like that.  I know this isn't the answer you were looking for, and I'm sure there are easily digestible foods he can try to get down, so maybe others here will have some advice.  

Did someone give Bryan Jen's login info????

LOL.  I like training empty/fasted training.  It works very well for me.  Even before I started triathlon training, I would work out at 5 in the morning on an empty stomach.  It is very, very difficult for me to consume food before I train, let alone before a race.  I just feel gross and full, and it almost impacts me negatively.  I have had to make myself consume food before my long ride, which is the only workout during the week where I'll consume something before heading out (even then it's a banana or a piece of toast).

Karen- has your husband tried eating a banana before heading out?  What is he eating before his sessions? 

 

This could also be why you bloat at races.  When you do take nutrition in, you take in "too much" relative to what you used in training (nothing) and your body doesn't know what to do with it when its under stress.

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