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2011-02-24 7:10 AM
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trigal38 - 2011-02-22 8:54 PM This make me very uncomfortable. I always feel like I am not doing the right thing. I never roll down my window and give. I'm not talking about the Lions club standing in the street for a cause. I'm talking about people who look to be homeless, holding a sign, begging for money. Last time my son was in the back of the van asking 1,000 questions. "What does his sign say Mommy? Why is he standing there Mommy?" Well, I guess that's just 2 questions but you know what I mean.

What do you do?

Next time I am giving.


Where I live it's illegal on most intersections to panhandle so I don't give for  that reason.  I do work in our downtown and will give a guy something if he isn't aggressive and doesn't give me some long winded lie of a story and I have a couple of bucks in my pocket and don't need to go to my wallet. 


2011-02-24 7:26 AM
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I just dont like homeless people who beg for change so I wont give them money.

I will, however, give a guy attempting to play an instrument or who is selling a craft or something. In Chicago we had the `Streetwise' guys who'd sell Streetwise Magazine. It's a program by some church or something that publishes the magazine and gives it to them and they have to sell them. The kicker is they have to be drug and alcohol tested and if they fail they're out of the program. So I used to give our local Streetwise guy a buck or two every now and then. I'd see him all the time at the local bar n grille with his sammich and iced tea. And on $1 burger night he'd be there with like four burgers and an iced tea.
2011-02-24 7:46 AM
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Once I was buying gas and a young lady approached me about not  having any money and being stranded and needed gas to get home. I made the mistake of giving her a $20 bill instead of actually putting gas in her car. She took my $20 bill and walked inside the store, walked back to the back, around the aisles and then back out the front door and jumped in a car and took off. I learned my lesson on that one.

A friend of mine in the construction industry told a fellow standing at an intersection with a sign, that he had some work that needed to be done on a job site. Clean up mostly, picking up debris and loading into a trailer etc. The guy told him he didn't have time????

2011-02-24 8:50 AM
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mr2tony - 2011-02-24 8:26 AM

I just dont like homeless people who beg for change so I wont give them money.

I will, however, give a guy attempting to play an instrument or who is selling a craft or something. In Chicago we had the `Streetwise' guys who'd sell Streetwise Magazine. It's a program by some church or something that publishes the magazine and gives it to them and they have to sell them. The kicker is they have to be drug and alcohol tested and if they fail they're out of the program. So I used to give our local Streetwise guy a buck or two every now and then. I'd see him all the time at the local bar n grille with his sammich and iced tea. And on $1 burger night he'd be there with like four burgers and an iced tea.


This. Street musicians usually get my $$$. I am bold enough to ask for a request as well
2011-02-24 9:58 AM
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Funny story to add, several years back a well to do looking gentleman asked me for some money as he said he was out of town and had his wallet stolen. I gave him $10 he asked me for my email in return and said i would be paid back. I got an email from him saying it was apart of some sociological study. Apparently people gave very generously to him and several others all with the same pitch. Why did we give him money and not the clearly homeless man?
2011-02-24 5:31 PM
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lonoscurse - 2011-02-23 8:12 AM Came out of Hotel in Union square in San Fran once with my wife, looking like typical tourists.  A homeless guy approached, and I thought "great, can't even get started before being panhandled".  After a brief hello, he asks "do you two know the city very well"?  I guardedly said "no".  He offered to give us tips for getting around the city that would save us time, in return for $5.  We gave him the money, and he immediately showed us where to get on the trolley, with no wait (line outside the hotel was nearly 10 minutes).  He gave us about 4-5 other tips and we went on our way.  His advice was so good, we gave him an additional $5 when we returned that afternoon.  I felt much better about giving him money when I received something in return.


Hahaha! Deja Vu!!!!   We stayed at the same hotel and met that same guy (or his cosmic cousin) just next to what he called Fantasy Island. (The trolley stop just outside the hotel - jam packed and you were in fantasyland if you thought you'd ever get on). Glad to hear that his service business is alive and well. Was he a 5'5" African american dude? A bit on the older side?



2011-02-26 5:00 PM
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I know that I'm a blessed person for that I am very thankful.  Everytime I'm approached I give what I have in my pocket.  I am certainly better off than the guy asking and I can spare some to help out.

If the money goes to help them feel a little better in their dismal position then I'm okay with that too.  Who am I to judge.  I guess it was my upbringing to try and be helpful.



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2011-02-28 11:22 AM
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I NEVER EVER give on the street and I KNOW I'm doing the right thing.

Here is why, most homeless people have problems, serious problems.  Giving them handouts, food, water, money is only prolonging their suffering.  This is because so long as they can eak out a miserable existence they will not seek services that would actually help them.  Places that give away stuff without actually having a relationship and trying to get to the root of the homelessness are just as bad; they also merely extend the problem and don't help the people into a truly better life.

What I do is I give to organizations that are truly trying to enact systemic changes and get these people real help.  Organizations that I would help are ones that help the clients who are in crisis get housing, mental services, and medical services.  An organization committed to more than the next meal, but instead willing to put in the effort to get the people moved from the streets into permanent housing, finding stable work, and services for their needs.  There may be a very small few for whom begging on the streets leads to a good healthy lifestyle, but for the vast majority it is a miserable existence and giving to them is only postponing their search for services that can help.

2011-02-28 12:32 PM
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Thanks everyone for your thoughtful replies. I am still reading!

2011-02-28 12:51 PM
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laundryking - 2011-02-26 6:00 PM

I can spare some to help out.

If the money goes to help them feel a little better

I guess it was my upbringing to try and be helpful.



Please read MNGopher's post right after yours. Your intentions are honorable, but you're not helping. You may be helping yourself feel better, but you are not helping that person panhandling on the street.
2011-02-28 1:59 PM
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When a report came out from San Francisco depicting the amount of money pan handlers at key intersections "made" each year, with the top person raking in $72,000, and the person who panhandled this money said "why should I get a job?" My whole outlook changed.

I don't give to panhandlers, and I do not feel guilty.


2011-02-28 2:14 PM
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This is rampant here in Nashville, TN...

I have tried it all.  I tried to give out some healthy food for a while, but found that about 90% of the beggars wouldn't take it.  One actually said, "don't you have any cash".  I just don't give them anything now...

I take that back, I did give to one guy who had a sign that read:  "Need money for beer".  At least he was being honest!  Laughing
2011-02-28 10:24 PM
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Granted I help perpetuate the problem by giving handouts but the social services can't help everybody.  I give to organziations that work to improve the quality of life for folks but it still not enough. 

The homeless are an national issue that really needs more input from Uncle Sam but with our focus on helping others around the world instead of here at home somebody has to help.  I think I'm going the right thing and try to help as much as I can.
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