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2005-01-11 4:08 PM

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Subject: Going nuggin' futs!

Okay, quick background. I’ve been stuck in a dead end job for four years. Finally, FINALLY, I have been offered a new job. It’s in marketing, which the area I’ve been trying to get into, gives me about a 20% raise and the opportunity to work with a company that treats its workers well.

I agreed to take the job on Friday, but asked for a formal offer letter. So, it’s now Tuesday and no offer letter. I followed up and the recruiter’s response was to ignore the part where I asked for a formal letter. I’ve responded again, reiterating the need for a letter and left a voice mail. No response yet.

I will not accept this job or quit my current one until I have a written offer. Offers tend to get changed and/or forgotten when they’re not written down. I hope they’re not going to drag this out and pitch a fit about it.

In the meantime, everything that irritates me about my current job is magnified in its irritation factor. And every time my boss mentions something that he needs me to do for next month, it’s all I can do not to tell him to shove it!

ARGHHH!



2005-01-11 4:24 PM
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Sorry to hear that this new opportunity is getting dragged out. Definitely stick to your guns about the written offer though. I've only taken one professional job without one (current job), but that was a special circumstance. A written offer letter is very smart. It's a shame that most recruiters work for the company doing the hiring, because it's not YOUR interests that they have in mind... Good luck and let us know how it turns out!

-Frank
2005-01-13 4:59 PM
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You're doing the right thing. Wait them out, even though it's killing you. Having everything in writing is, sadly, the only smart way to do business today.

Good luck!!!
2005-01-13 7:50 PM
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Definately stick with the letter - the one job I took without one, they denied they offered me moving expenses (and I had moved about 2500km away from my family) and then said that I accepted a casual position -- not a full time one. It was horrible but in the end it taught me to wait for the written letter.

Hope that it all works out well - and will be worth the wait in the end

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2005-01-13 10:24 PM
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Do not do anything with out a written offer unless you trust them implicitly!

I moved interstate for a job with out a written offer only to be told they had given it to some one else. Lesson well learnt there let me tell you.!
2005-01-14 9:11 AM
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Well, I've got a letter now, but it isn't as good as I'd like.  It mentions salary and benefits, but not the department or job.  They've been up front since I was interviewing that they like to bring in smart people first and figure out where to put them second.  The recruiter told me that he got approval from a VP for me to work in their marketing dpt.  Also, I have an e-mail from the guy where he mentions what my job would likely be depending on the needs of the dpt, which, therefore, implies the department.

At this point, I feel like I'm on the verge of going from tenacious to annoying so I've decided to back down.  I just have to hope that a company that would offer such outstanding benefits would not screw their employees in other areas.

Worst case scenario, though, is that they stick me in a job that I don't care for, which is what I'm in now, but I'll be making about 15% more and be out of HR, which is a huge obstacle to getting into mktg.  I guess sometimes you have to take that risk.

So, I turned in my resignation Wed. afternoon.  The 28th is my last day here and I start at the new job on the 31st.

Wish me luck.  I'm terrified and churning, but excited that at least SOMETHING is happening.



2005-01-14 4:35 PM
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Congratulations! Um, I guess Let us know how the landing goes...

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2005-01-14 7:46 PM
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Congratulations, Whit!!! As you said, this new job can only be better than your old one, and it may be much, much better as soon as you start! It's an exciting time. Enjoy it!
2005-01-14 10:46 PM
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Hey Whit- congrats, tell me more about the new position. I'm in PR/marketing as well and I like it alot. So much so, that I'm going back to school for physical therapy. haha! No seriously, it can be interesting. What was your old position?
2005-01-16 2:54 PM
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Congratulations on the new job.
I'm sure everything will work out fine. Just remember to start off on a positive note -- it will make all the difference.
2005-01-18 9:35 AM
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Hey Lisa,

My current job is in Int'l HR.  I started as an exec assistant to get my foot in the door with the idea of moving into Mktg with the company that way.  Over the past 4 years, my boss gave me a lot more responsibilities dealing with our social compliance program -- basically, auditing the factories that make our products to make sure they're not sweatshops.  After handling those responsibilities for 3 years, they finally upgraded my title to Compliance Coordinator and, barely, my pay. 

BTW, that "getting the foot in the door" idea ended up being a bad mistake.  It was more like getting locked in a closet.  I tried twice to get entry level mktg positions in the company and was passed over each time.  Though I graduated Summa Cum Laude with a BA in Spanish, minor in Creative Writing and completing a Business Prep program (including classes in Econ, Accounting, Mgmt and Mktg), AND had worked with the company for quite a while, that just wasn't good enough for an entry-level position with them. 

There are so many problems with my company, it's unbelievable.  Basically, everyone I've told of my resignation has congratulated me and confided how unhappy they are.  This is in all different divisions, functions and levels.  There are no career paths anywhere and HR can't seem to grasp that there's a problem, even though they themselves have lost 7 people (out of 15 - 20 people) in the last 4 months.

Anyway, the new job is located in a regional office of McMaster-Carr (industrial supply co.).  The mktg functions at this branch are understandably limited, but involve identifying new customers in the area and sending them their huge catalog.  I was told that my most likely job there would involve reading through newspapers and the internet, looking for news of new companies opening up.  Considering that it involves 2 things I love - reading and the internet - this is not a bad gig to start with.

I had never heard of MC before, but Hubby says that every welding shop he's worked for uses this company and that they have a reputation within the industry of having an incredible selection and amazing customer service -- if they don't have a product, they'll find it.  This won't necessarily be my ideal marketing position, but just making the leap from HR to Mktg (difficult in and of itself) makes it worthwhile, as do the incredible company benefits.  Also, it will be good to learn more about this industry since Hubby and I are starting a welding company.

Well, fingers are crossed.  I'll update everyone sometime in Feb.



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