Racing Flats Stability Question

There is such a thing as "Performance Trainers" that are lighter but still offer some of the same qualities as their heavier siblings.

The ASICS DS Trainer is a "Performance Stability" shoe that provides some (But not all) of the support your Kayano's do. But, they are under just under 10 oz.  Brooks also makes the Axiom which will feel very similar to the Adrenaline but is also quite a bit lighter.

Just be sure to scale back the mileage on these shoes. I was only able to get ~200 miles out of my Axioms before they went flat. (As opposed to 350 I get in my trainers)

Most manufacturers are offering up shoes in this category so look around. Take a trip to the LRS and get fitted for them. (They will usually have recommendations)

Of course, you could always run barefoot

Hey thanks guys, i think i will checkout some of the performance trainers. 

 CaptainQuiche, do you wear your orthotics when you race as well? 

 I got a pair of orthotics  a few years ago, but have not been running in them because i find they are both too wide and too thick to fit into my running shoes to run naturally. 

Asics Speedstars II's are an "ultra-light" trainer.  I have two pairs and sware by them.  They are almost as light as a flat (around 7.9 ounces) and have solid plastic truss running perpendicular in the middle for support, but are flexible and light like a racing flat. 

I also have three pairs of Gel-Hyperspeed II's.  They are a racing flat, but they have a decent amount of cushioning  (weigh around 6 oz) and I've worn them for 14-mile runs.  They don't have a solid plastic support on the sole, but the sole is slightly wider than normal which gives them a nice ride, coupled with decent stability.  They are a little narrow though.  The Speedstar is wider and is probably a better bet for you.

Yes, I always use them. It took three iterations to get them to work just right. We changed the posting twice and the thickness once. At first they were simply too bulky. Similar to what your problems seem to be. The guy that made my orthotics is a runner and has flat feet himself so he can relate to and understand my problems really well. What I am getting at is that when getting orthotics it is important that you have someone that truly understands how they should work and more importantly know how to make them work.

If I were you I would contact your local tri or runners club to find out how is good at making orthotics in your area. My first pair was made by another person and they were completely worthless. No better than getting a premade pair at you local running store.

Lastly, I have tried several different brands of shoes and I have found that Brooks tend to be a bit roomier than your average shoe and therefore easier accept the orthotic. I have no problem fitting my orthotic in the ST3 and Addiction. The Axiom is slightly narrower and is not as accommodating but it still works well. Unfortunately the Axiom does not come in Wide.

Hope this helps and good luck!

I am in the same boat...  I'm 6 ft, 155 and looking for a light weight racing shoe with some degree of motion control and or stability. 

I am considering these 3, although I don't know how much support if any these offer, without seeing them in person.  I've also heard great things about Zoot race shoes and Newton Running shoes.  Although Newtons take a bit of getting used to from what I hear.

Brooks Race ST 3  http://www.brooksrunning.com/prod.php?p=40020&k=82707

Saucony Grid Type A2  http://saucony.com/ShoeDetails.aspx?gen=m&use=Race&id=1115&rel=1110,1115,1083,1128,1086,1093,1089,1116,1090,1144,1142

Avia Avi-Bolt  http://www.aviadirect.com/mens/2215.html

Good luck!