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2009-07-22 8:46 AM

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Hello

It was recommend to me that I try my running following the Chi-running guidelines.   Well since I was not running (2 1/2 weeks)due to a right knee strain/pain I figured I would look into Chi Running.  So I reviewed Chi Running video's from the internet.  The basic idea is to stand straight and lean slightly forward from the waist so that when you run you are kind of falling forward.  (This is a very basic description so go read for yourself) This allows your foot to strike the ground flat and keep the pounding off your heel, tibia & knee.   Along with this Chi-Running form, I went to the local running shoe store to get fitted for some new running shoes. The Asics GT-2140 Gel shoes arrived yesterday after waiting for over a week for them to arrive after orderiing.  I do try to buy items from local stores rather than from online sales.

I am happy to report that this morning I stretched inside the house, went out into the driveway, set my  Chi form and started walking my running route, after about a 1/4 mile I started running working on my form.   I  had intended to run-walk about 2 miles but was feeling so good  that I keep going for my full 3 mile run.

I am happy to report no calves locked-up, no knee pain so far and I feel good.

I think I am on the road to training for & handling the run.

If you have thoughts about Chi Running please research it and buy the book.  I am going to look for the book at my local B & N.

Kevin



2009-07-22 1:20 PM
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Good to hear Kevin.  I've never been much of a long distance runner but I found the videos on this website very helpful to me.  The "Pretty Running" video covered some of the form in which you mentioned.  I've worked on that and last night I ran a total of 5 miles, but the first 2 were non-stop.  Along with that, I noticed that I've been able to keep my heart rate a lot lower than I could before. 

I'm not sure where I read it but somewhere it mentioned that you sometimes get a signal to stop running and walk.  Paying attention to my slow runs, I have experienced this despite not being tired.  It's mind game with your body and once you push through it, you can get your mind on something else and just keep going.  I never realized just how much of a mental game the entire run thing is.
2009-08-08 12:36 PM
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Hi!

I've been reading your various threads and Congrats!

I just finished the Chi Running Book and it's made a difference. I also bought new running shoes-Brooks Addiction-the name so suits me. This week I began running on a high school track which was created from old tires. By the afternoon, it smells awful after it has baked in the sun all day. My shin splints are gone and my knee pain is less painful.

Good Luck on your journey.

2009-08-09 4:48 PM
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Has anyone done one of their Chi-Running clinics? I am considering either a half or full day clinic this fall. The full day clinic is given by the author the half day is by another trainer.
2009-08-09 7:27 PM
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Hello

I am still using the Chi-Running and I like it.   My times are down and no right knee pain at all.   It is worth a look.

My goal for my race is to run the entire way without walking.

When I do my training runs near the end of the run I start thinking about how it is going to feel running across the finish line.

Kevin
2009-08-09 8:59 PM
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I used to run alot and ran a marathon almost 30 years ago. Now quite a bit heavier and with an arthritic knee running is quite hard for me. I still have some result sheets of the 10K and half marathon times from then and I'm running close to 2X those times now. It's kind of frustrating but I have plenty of room to improve. I thought Chi-Running may be helpful. I am also getting gel in my knee this week and that should help too.


2009-08-10 9:15 AM
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b2673ad - 2009-08-09 7:27 PM Hello

I am still using the Chi-Running and I like it.   My times are down and no right knee pain at all.   It is worth a look.

My goal for my race is to run the entire way without walking.

When I do my training runs near the end of the run I start thinking about how it is going to feel running across the finish line.

Kevin

Congrats on your progress.  I try to incorporate Chi-running into my runs.  It is amazing to me the amount of analysis that is done in swimming and biking, and how little technique intruction is done on the run.


I hope that by now you have read the book.  It is excellent.

Be careful stretching cold muscles.  There is a fair amount of evidence that stretching cold may cause harm to your muscles and ligaments.  Just google search it.  Danny Dreyer recommends that you use active stretching instead of the static stuff that we learned in gym class.

Glad that you are enjoying your runs.
2009-08-10 10:14 AM
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I did a chi Running workshop about 2 years ago. I had horrible shin splints up until that point. I did the half day clinic and it was very helpful, I have run for the past 2 years without any recurring pain. The clinic itself was excellent as it was given by a trainer and I was able to receive immediate feedback on my form and foot strike. He even took video of us at the beginning and the end of the day just so we could all see the difference in the before/after clinic shots. I try to maintain the chi running techniques in all of my runs. I would definitely recommend the clinic as it was well worth the money.
2009-08-10 1:24 PM
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b2673ad - 2009-07-22 6:46 AM

Hello

It was recommend to me that I try my running following the Chi-running guidelines.   Well since I was not running (2 1/2 weeks)due to a right knee strain/pain I figured I would look into Chi Running.  So I reviewed Chi Running video's from the internet.  The basic idea is to stand straight and lean slightly forward from the waist so that when you run you are kind of falling forward.  (This is a very basic description so go read for yourself) This allows your foot to strike the ground flat and keep the pounding off your heel, tibia & knee.   Along with this Chi-Running form, I went to the local running shoe store to get fitted for some new running shoes. The Asics GT-2140 Gel shoes arrived yesterday after waiting for over a week for them to arrive after orderiing.  I do try to buy items from local stores rather than from online sales.

I am happy to report that this morning I stretched inside the house, went out into the driveway, set my  Chi form and started walking my running route, after about a 1/4 mile I started running working on my form.   I  had intended to run-walk about 2 miles but was feeling so good  that I keep going for my full 3 mile run.

I am happy to report no calves locked-up, no knee pain so far and I feel good.

I think I am on the road to training for & handling the run.

If you have thoughts about Chi Running please research it and buy the book.  I am going to look for the book at my local B & N.

Kevin


Do not lean from the waist, from the ankles. As stated above do a warmup before you run,stretch after you run. Before you run loosen your ankles, knees, hips, shoulders, neck as outlined in the book. Get your alignment and relax as you run.

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2009-08-10 7:06 PM
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losta - 2009-08-09 8:59 PM I used to run alot and ran a marathon almost 30 years ago. Now quite a bit heavier and with an arthritic knee running is quite hard for me. I still have some result sheets of the 10K and half marathon times from then and I'm running close to 2X those times now. It's kind of frustrating but I have plenty of room to improve. I thought Chi-Running may be helpful. I am also getting gel in my knee this week and that should help too.


Warning...slight hijack! 

Is this some kind of new surgical procedure for the knee?  I have never heard of getting gel in the knees before.  Please explain. 
2009-08-10 7:40 PM
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http://www.orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm/a00217

nscrbug - 2009-08-10 8:06 PM


Is this some kind of new surgical procedure for the knee?  I have never heard of getting gel in the knees before.  Please explain. 


2009-08-11 11:19 AM
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Hi All,

Is the gel you're referring to called Syn Visc?

I'm an Athena triathlete who has just lost 65 pounds and who has always wanted to do a triathlon but have always had knee pain.

This past March I had a procedure called Syn Visc and along with cortisone shots was able to complete 3 sprint triathlons since May. I can now run a slow 6 miles. I still have to ice my knees and take Advil but I am not in teary eyed agony anymore. I highly recommend it! Here's the info: http://arthritis.about.com/od/synvisc/g/synviscinject.htm
2009-08-11 3:23 PM
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Wow...very interesting about the viscosupplementation.  Certainly sounds like a viable option, for somebody that would like to stay active, but has wear-and-tear knee problems (like many of us). 
2009-08-11 9:12 PM
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I think it's the same. My Doc called today, my gel is in, I'll be getting it in the next few days.

I just did my first Tri last weekend, the weekend before was supposed to be my first tri but it got changed to a du and cancelled before most finished (I did though). My knee hurt quite a bit after running (and walking) the 4.5 miles of the du. I usually take advil before I run because of my knee.

Was yours a series of shots? I think mine will be about 3.

Great to hear your running 6 miles w/o all the pain. Congrats!

dointris - 2009-08-11 12:19 PM

Hi All,

Is the gel you're referring to called Syn Visc?

I'm an Athena triathlete who has just lost 65 pounds and who has always wanted to do a triathlon but have always had knee pain.

This past March I had a procedure called Syn Visc and along with cortisone shots was able to complete 3 sprint triathlons since May. I can now run a slow 6 miles. I still have to ice my knees and take Advil but I am not in teary eyed agony anymore. I highly recommend it! Here's the info: http://arthritis.about.com/od/synvisc/g/synviscinject.htm
2009-08-12 11:12 AM
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Hi Again,
I have pain but it's not nearly as painful. I still have to take 4 Advil prior to a run, more like a jog, and ice my knee afterward.

Prior to Syn Visc I could not tolerate the pain with going up and down the stairs so I could only walk backwards down the stairs and up the stairs like Frankenstein. My knee condition was due to many years as a competitive figure skater, running track in school and an aerobic instructor. I was told I need a left knee replacement but the doc said, "You can forget about triathlons for good."

Since I am totally addicted to this sport, I'm going for a 2nd opinion on 8/27 because I still have pain but there must be something else that can be done. Hmmm, oh yeah I do need to lose another 40-60 pounds but in the meantime, any suggestions?

2009-08-12 11:13 AM
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yes they are a series of 3 shots.


2009-08-13 11:00 AM
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I have read Chi Running and POSE Method of Running. Both are very similar and once I switched to POSE my shin splints have disappeard and my times keep getting faster!
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