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2009-08-03 2:44 PM

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Subject: Realistic Time for 1st Tri
I am racing for the first time this coming weekend in a Sprint distance tri, 500 meter, 18 mile ride, 3 mile run.  I just started training for it in June, however I have been a cyclist for a while and will average 16ish MPH on a 45-50 mile ride.  My run is bout 10-12min. miles, the unknown factor is my swim time.  I am not a great swimmer, yet, but other than just wanting to finish, what do you think would be a realistic time for finishing?

There are a couple hills on the bike, but the run is basically flat.

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2009-08-03 3:06 PM
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Pure guess - 1:50:00.  13 min swim, 2 min tran 1, 1 hour bike, 2 min tran 2, 33 min run.  Those seem like reasonable goals for a first tri.  I like to think of it as my first goal being to finsih without embarassing myself, then meet more specific goal-times.
2009-08-03 3:07 PM
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My suggestion is to go have fun and finish your first triathlon. Don't set up time goals, instead set goals that are experiential, like having fun, learning, finding out if you like it, soaking in the atmosphere, stuff like that.

No reason to set goals as triathlon is one sport you do three different disciplines in add in transition it is quite different than s/b/r each independantly.
2009-08-03 3:07 PM
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Subject: RE: Realistic Time for 1st Tri
Well, how fast do you swim 100 meters in? We need to start there.

18 mile ride... if you can do a 18 mph average... 1 hour. If you go around 16 mph... 1:10? I have found that I typically go faster on the bike in race because I'm not stopping/going for traffic lights like I do in training.

3 mile run... 11 mm, to be conservative... 33 minutes.

So add those 3 times up... and there you go.

2009-08-03 3:17 PM
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If the race has previous results posted you could check there to get a feel for the fob/mop/bop times and see if that helps. Good luck and have fun.

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2009-08-03 3:18 PM
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edmac - 2009-08-03 3:17 PM

If the race has previous results posted you could check there to get a feel for the fob/mop/bop times and see if that helps. Good luck and have fun.

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I wish i could do that, but this is the first year for this event.


2009-08-03 3:27 PM
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KathyG - 2009-08-03 4:07 PM

My suggestion is to go have fun and finish your first triathlon. Don't set up time goals, instead set goals that are experiential, like having fun, learning, finding out if you like it, soaking in the atmosphere, stuff like that.

No reason to set goals as triathlon is one sport you do three different disciplines in add in transition it is quite different than s/b/r each independantly.


I agree with Kathy. This is your first tri. Go out and give it your all and enjoy! Your finish time will be your finish time. Que sera sera. Then you will have a benchmark on which to improve

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2009-08-03 3:28 PM
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KSH - 2009-08-03 4:07 PM Well, how fast do you swim 100 meters in? We need to start there. 18 mile ride... if you can do a 18 mph average... 1 hour. If you go around 16 mph... 1:10? I have found that I typically go faster on the bike in race because I'm not stopping/going for traffic lights like I do in training. 3 mile run... 11 mm, to be conservative... 33 minutes. So add those 3 times up... and there you go.


You and your crazy MATH and stuff!   ;-)
2009-08-03 3:32 PM
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Just on a side note, my primary goal is to just finish, preferably not last, and to have fun.  The time issue is just for my personal competitiveness, I have a very difficult time "just enjoying the experience" even on "recovery rides" it is very difficult for me to take is slow and easy and not to hammer it out over a hill or something.
2009-08-03 3:35 PM
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I hear the OP.  I am also doing my first sprint in 2 weeks.  I agree to enjoy the experience but numbers are important. I want to beat 1/3 of the field.  That means i have to do 1:45.  Here my app #. 1/2 swim= 17.30, 12.3 bike=43:00, 4.4 run = :40.  Now I am just curious why this is bad?  If I miss my numbers will it affect me?  Will I sell my bike and sneakers? NO...  Not in any way unless I really miss my mark.  If I make my goal I will be all the more excited.  For me, this means WIN, WIN...  I say, first timers set time goals.. Just make them realistic...
2009-08-03 3:38 PM
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I have to agree with most everyone else. I will say this, I just finished my first sprint tri last Saturday. I had a goal of finishing with no walking and finishing under 2hrs. I have/had no swim/bike/run background and had trained for 8 weeks. My training numbers pointed to 1:50-2:00hrs.
The course was an extremely hilly bike and run.
I finished 1:38 and was elated.

I, too am very competitive so I needed a time to shoot for but like everyone said, first goal should be to finish.
Good luck.


2009-08-03 3:39 PM
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IMHusker - 2009-08-03 4:32 PM Just on a side note, my primary goal is to just finish, preferably not last, and to have fun.  The time issue is just for my personal competitiveness, I have a very difficult time "just enjoying the experience" even on "recovery rides" it is very difficult for me to take is slow and easy and not to hammer it out over a hill or something.


I know where you are coming from man.  I started training with the excitement of just completing.  Now I'm messing things up by starting to raise that bar.  Sadly, that competitive spirit can sometimes find a way to make us experience disappointment in what should be a very positive experience.  That's more of a battle than the training thus far. 

Hammer away but be sure to leave something in the tank until you can check it on the run. If you have energy, use it then and finish on "E." 

Good luck!

P.S. if you are asking for a time, you should have made it a poll where you had to mail the winner a Cliff Bar or something. haha
2009-08-03 4:18 PM
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In terms of "realistic" times, KHS pretty well nailed it (she's really good).  Make some guesses about how long to swim/bike/run all of the distances.  Add a couple of minutes for T1 and another couple for T2.  What we can't guess is what is the course like, what will the weather be like, and how do you personally do with the specifics of those two issues.  Do you like hills?  Did they just chip-seal the roads?  What if it's a windy day?  Super hot?  Cold and rainy?  Every one of these will either add or subtract time from your guesses. 

What will you find out?  Swimming in a lake is very different than swimming in a pool.  It's usually a pretty good hike from the water to the start of the bike course (anywhere from 100 yards up to 500+ yards) and it's uphill (makes sense, otherwise the water in the lake would drain down to where the bikes are).  If you've never tried running after riding, it's a treat!  Your legs will work differently and most people run slower after riding than in a stand-alone race (some by a little, some by a lot).  You may find you get an upset stomach from swallowing a lot of lake water.  You may find that you get dehydrated quickly on the bike even though you swallowed gallons of water during the swim.  You may find out you had a great time even if you were nowhere close to right with your time estimates. 

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