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 2010-03-01 11:41 AM in reply to: #2699604 |
Expert  834    Medina, MN |  Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSEDOk, I have a question about HR. On Sunday, I did a Spinervals workout on the bike. It was supposed to be "aero base builder" meaning RPE was between 60% and 75%. When I was doing it, I would be pushing my legs at a pace where I didn't think I could do it for more than about 5 minutes, yet my HR would be 135 or so. The folks on the DVD all had their HRs up around 150 and were holding it there. I'm wondering if my aerobic conditioning is better right now than my bike muscles? If I get to be a better biker, will I be able to bike at a higher HR for longer, or will I just be able to do more power at the same HR? Or am I just being a wimp, and is the relatively low HR just indicating that I could be going faster, I'm just not pushing myself? |
| 2010-03-01 6:18 PM in reply to: #2699604 |
Member 54 Corpus Christi, TX | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED MLJ - 2010-03-01 10:03 AM I'm also far from an expert, but I think the reason you're getting more triceps workout in pic #2 is due to your elbow angle. I'd definitely try moving your seat forward, and see if that feels better. Also, you might want to try tilting the aerobars up just a bit and see if that helps. What do you think about the height of your handlebars generally? You have them up quite a ways, and you'd definitely be more aero if you have the flexibility to move them down a bit. I can't tell from the pictures, but how do you have the aerobars set up? Are they as wide as they can go on your handlebars? Are the pads all the way back on the extension bars? Are the extension bars all the way forward, or part way? Do you have the pads straight or angled in a bit? Some of this stuff I'm asking because I'm still trying to optimize my own set up on these things, so I'm not really sure what's ideal.... My other novice bike-fitter comment is that I think your seat might be a touch too high too, and that could be potentially tied in with your achilles stuff. I always think if my seat is too low that my knees hurt, if it's too high my achilles hurt, and if it's just right, well, then they both hurt, just less  . When I had my aerobars put on at the LBS they lowered the height of my handle bars a bit. That gave me the 90 degree angle everyone else is talking about and put me in a more aero position. Based on the pictures it looks like you are more upright rather than aero. Remember I'm a beginner also. Just thought my experience could help. If all else fails cough up the money so someone with experience can help you out. |
| 2010-03-01 9:42 PM in reply to: #2699604 |
| 62 | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED Thanks everyone for all the great feedback. It sounds like there are a few things I should try: |
| 2010-03-02 6:36 AM in reply to: #2699893 |
Master 1671 West Bend, WI | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED MLJ - 2010-03-01 11:41 AM Ok, I have a question about HR. On Sunday, I did a Spinervals workout on the bike. It was supposed to be "aero base builder" meaning RPE was between 60% and 75%. When I was doing it, I would be pushing my legs at a pace where I didn't think I could do it for more than about 5 minutes, yet my HR would be 135 or so. The folks on the DVD all had their HRs up around 150 and were holding it there. I'm wondering if my aerobic conditioning is better right now than my bike muscles? If I get to be a better biker, will I be able to bike at a higher HR for longer, or will I just be able to do more power at the same HR? Or am I just being a wimp, and is the relatively low HR just indicating that I could be going faster, I'm just not pushing myself?
HRs are very individual.... some people have naturally low hrs some have high hrs. How does it compare to your running hr? With your level at tris Id suspect your run hr is 10-15 beats higher. You really need to do some hr tests and set up your zones |
| 2010-03-02 7:25 AM in reply to: #2701309 |
Expert 834 Medina, MN | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED mnardulli - 2010-03-01 9:42 PM Thanks everyone for all the great feedback. It sounds like there are a few things I should try: One more thing on this. I was looking at mine this morning, as I have some similar issues. I think I know the line on the extensions that you're talking about. I have that lined up with the back end of the pad clamps. Do you think we could put the extensions in up to that line, and then put the clamps on behind it? I hope that makes sense, it's hard to describe without looking at them. |
| 2010-03-02 7:27 AM in reply to: #2701537 |
Expert 834 Medina, MN | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED tripletmom01 - 2010-03-02 6:36 AM
HRs are very individual.... some people have naturally low hrs some have high hrs. How does it compare to your running hr? With your level at tris Id suspect your run hr is 10-15 beats higher. You really need to do some hr tests and set up your zones Ok, I'll get on it regarding the HR tests, is there anything to it other than just running/biking as fast as you can for 20 minutes and seeing where your HR holds? I normally run with a HR around 145, and I think I can let it creep up from there a bit, but if I go much over 150 I end up dying. |
| 2010-03-02 3:22 PM in reply to: #2701616 |
| Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED MLJ - 2010-03-02 8:27 AM tripletmom01 - 2010-03-02 6:36 AM Ok, I'll get on it regarding the HR tests, is there anything to it other than just running/biking as fast as you can for 20 minutes and seeing where your HR holds? I normally run with a HR around 145, and I think I can let it creep up from there a bit, but if I go much over 150 I end up dying.
HRs are very individual.... some people have naturally low hrs some have high hrs. How does it compare to your running hr? With your level at tris Id suspect your run hr is 10-15 beats higher. You really need to do some hr tests and set up your zones I followed this article from BT for my run test earlier this week: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=633 Basically, you run as hard as you can for 30 min and measure your heart rate for the last 20 min to get threshold. Doesn't hurt a bit!  |
| 2010-03-03 6:26 AM in reply to: #2701616 |
Master 1671 West Bend, WI | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED MLJ - 2010-03-02 7:27 AM tripletmom01 - 2010-03-02 6:36 AM Ok, I'll get on it regarding the HR tests, is there anything to it other than just running/biking as fast as you can for 20 minutes and seeing where your HR holds? I normally run with a HR around 145, and I think I can let it creep up from there a bit, but if I go much over 150 I end up dying.
HRs are very individual.... some people have naturally low hrs some have high hrs. How does it compare to your running hr? With your level at tris Id suspect your run hr is 10-15 beats higher. You really need to do some hr tests and set up your zones yes that will work also be sure to WU and CD dont get your hr for those portions. |
| 2010-03-03 7:18 AM in reply to: #2701610 |
| 62 | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED MLJ - 2010-03-02 7:25 AM One more thing on this. I was looking at mine this morning, as I have some similar issues. I think I know the line on the extensions that you're talking about. I have that lined up with the back end of the pad clamps. Do you think we could put the extensions in up to that line, and then put the clamps on behind it? I hope that makes sense, it's hard to describe without looking at them. I'll give this a try tonight |
| 2010-03-04 11:05 AM in reply to: #2557055 |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED didnt want to have to repost this so http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=198387&posts=1&start=1 let me know your thoughts! 18 days til spring! still another couple months til spring here in Wisconsin!? |
| 2010-03-04 11:18 AM in reply to: #2557055 |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED oh and tammy that half marathon plan looks pretty solid. would have me starting around march 21st so I think i will use that with some minor tweaks to fit myself and my training. thanks |
| 2010-03-04 12:30 PM in reply to: #2707290 |
Member 54 Corpus Christi, TX | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED chasingkona - 2010-03-04 11:05 AM didnt want to have to repost this so http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=198387&posts=1&start=1 let me know your thoughts! 18 days til spring! still another couple months til spring here in Wisconsin!? i'm not an expert but i'm going to go with the "not warmed up" theory. it seems to make sense. i have a nasty habit of not warming up. i know i should and i tell myself i should yet i don't haha. |
| 2010-03-04 5:48 PM in reply to: #2707290 |
Master 1671 West Bend, WI | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED chasingkona - 2010-03-04 11:05 AM didnt want to have to repost this so http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=198387&posts=1&start=1 let me know your thoughts! 18 days til spring! still another couple months til spring here in Wisconsin!?
Yes- your legs are already firing and your HR is already up and you have been moving them at a quicker cadence then you would normally be running. I dont think an hour ride 15 min run is a very great gauge of things. Do a 2 hour hard ride then run 5-6 mile and see where you are. Whats your HR on the run compared to the ride? I think its a great training work out and its great to get used to running off the bike, the real trick is to keep that pace for oh say 26 miles |
| 2010-03-08 2:54 PM in reply to: #2557055 |
Member 54 Corpus Christi, TX | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED my 1st tri is coming up in 2 weeks and i feel like i'm ready. i'm really anxious and want it to hurry up and get here. i think this week i'll continue to workout like i have been and then the week before race day i'll do light workouts and focus more on transitions. sound like a good plan? |
| 2010-03-08 5:46 PM in reply to: #2557055 |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED yeah so i think i am going through a breakthrough on my running. Just did 7.5 miles on my weekly long running with rolling elevation and two decent climbs. Ran with my HR around 160 and clocked in 7:46 miles. I have been slowly increasing my long runs for a few weeks not starting at around 45 minutes and doing about 6 miles to now getting in 7.5 miles in just under and hour. I felt great thoughout the run and never really pushing extremely hard, and was able to run smoothly, with good rhythm and never really sucking wind, all while having about :30 seconds of my usual min/mile pace. This is feeling great! |
| 2010-03-08 5:50 PM in reply to: #2714812 |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED dboy25 - 2010-03-08 2:54 PM my 1st tri is coming up in 2 weeks and i feel like i'm ready. i'm really anxious and want it to hurry up and get here. i think this week i'll continue to workout like i have been and then the week before race day i'll do light workouts and focus more on transitions. sound like a good plan? If there is anything I can relay to you before doing your first tri it would be to visualize. I did my first tri last fall (HIM) and one of the things that I did alot and I think is very overlooked was visualization. Visualize yourself being successful, visualize what you will do throughout your transitions, how you will feel on the bike, what you will do on the run, etc. Have you checked the course yet? Just putting yourself in a successful mindset I think goes a long way. Working on transitions is huge so keep working on that, just make sure that you go over everything that you will encounter in T1 and T2 so you don't hit the run with your bike helmet on or something along those lines. Enjoy the race and good luck! |
| 2010-03-08 6:51 PM in reply to: #2714812 |
Master 1671 West Bend, WI | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED dboy25 - 2010-03-08 2:54 PM my 1st tri is coming up in 2 weeks and i feel like i'm ready. i'm really anxious and want it to hurry up and get here. i think this week i'll continue to workout like i have been and then the week before race day i'll do light workouts and focus more on transitions. sound like a good plan? Is it a sprint?? Yes- that taper sounds good!! BEn says some good stuff.....just be positive and have fun |
| 2010-03-08 6:51 PM in reply to: #2715143 |
Master 1671 West Bend, WI | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED chasingkona - 2010-03-08 5:46 PM yeah so i think i am going through a breakthrough on my running. Just did 7.5 miles on my weekly long running with rolling elevation and two decent climbs. Ran with my HR around 160 and clocked in 7:46 miles. I have been slowly increasing my long runs for a few weeks not starting at around 45 minutes and doing about 6 miles to now getting in 7.5 miles in just under and hour. I felt great thoughout the run and never really pushing extremely hard, and was able to run smoothly, with good rhythm and never really sucking wind, all while having about :30 seconds of my usual min/mile pace. This is feeling great! Thats great!! Run breakthroughs are the best!! |
| 2010-03-09 12:21 AM in reply to: #2715247 |
Member 54 Corpus Christi, TX | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED tripletmom01 - 2010-03-08 6:51 PM dboy25 - 2010-03-08 2:54 PM my 1st tri is coming up in 2 weeks and i feel like i'm ready. i'm really anxious and want it to hurry up and get here. i think this week i'll continue to workout like i have been and then the week before race day i'll do light workouts and focus more on transitions. sound like a good plan? Is it a sprint?? Yes- that taper sounds good!! BEn says some good stuff.....just be positive and have fun yeah it's a sprint. if it wasn't for the swim i know i could be doing olympic's or HIM's but i'll save that for my goal next season. this season it's all about improving the swim so i can do longer stuff. |
| 2010-03-09 9:41 AM in reply to: #2557055 |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED One final thing to note and since your doing a sprint I think you will be fine. But when you practice T1 make sure you have done/ or do a bike ride immediately following a swim. When i did my first tri I had been in the water for about 35 minutes and never practiced T1 so I was a little wobbly and disoriented coming out of the water, which made getting my wetuit off a bit of a struggle. |
| 2010-03-09 10:31 AM in reply to: #2716118 |
Member 54 Corpus Christi, TX | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED chasingkona - 2010-03-09 9:41 AM One final thing to note and since your doing a sprint I think you will be fine. But when you practice T1 make sure you have done/ or do a bike ride immediately following a swim. When i did my first tri I had been in the water for about 35 minutes and never practiced T1 so I was a little wobbly and disoriented coming out of the water, which made getting my wetuit off a bit of a struggle. well it's a pool swim so i don't have to worry about a wetsuit but i'll definitely practice both transitions. thanks for the advice. |
| 2010-03-12 10:13 AM in reply to: #2716282 |
Expert 834 Medina, MN | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED You may also want to do a bike/run "brick" at least once before you race, just so you know how you'll feel running after a hard bike ride. |
| 2010-03-16 10:44 AM in reply to: #2557055 |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED Took my bike off the trainer today as the temps here in Wisconsin have been above 40 and seem to be so for the next week or so. Hoping I only have to use the trainer on extreme occasion i.e hurricane hits or random snowfall in june (which is not out of the question in Wisconsin). I also seem to be going through a run breakthrough the past couple of weeks so my goal time of 1:45 at the madison marathon half distance seems to be a good reality right now! |
| 2010-03-17 6:39 AM in reply to: #2728925 |
Master 1671 West Bend, WI | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED chasingkona - 2010-03-16 10:44 AM Took my bike off the trainer today as the temps here in Wisconsin have been above 40 and seem to be so for the next week or so. Hoping I only have to use the trainer on extreme occasion i.e hurricane hits or random snowfall in june (which is not out of the question in Wisconsin). I also seem to be going through a run breakthrough the past couple of weeks so my goal time of 1:45 at the madison marathon half distance seems to be a good reality right now! I have been outside riding too! We are sooo lucky right now! I have been able to start running again and am thrilled- Up to almost ten miles |
| 2010-03-17 6:39 AM in reply to: #2728925 |
Master 1671 West Bend, WI | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED chasingkona - 2010-03-16 10:44 AM Took my bike off the trainer today as the temps here in Wisconsin have been above 40 and seem to be so for the next week or so. Hoping I only have to use the trainer on extreme occasion i.e hurricane hits or random snowfall in june (which is not out of the question in Wisconsin). I also seem to be going through a run breakthrough the past couple of weeks so my goal time of 1:45 at the madison marathon half distance seems to be a good reality right now! I have been outside riding too! We are sooo lucky right now! I have been able to start running again and am thrilled- Up to almost ten miles |
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